Monsters Of The Moors - Ian Brady & Myra Hindley | ICMAP | S3 EP11
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- čas přidán 30. 05. 2021
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Tom and Ben are back in the UK to discuss their most high-profile case to date. It is, of course, the haunting case of Ian Brady and Myra Hindley: The Monsters of the Moors.
Tune in and all will be revealed!
Written & presented by Tom Norris & Ben Carter | @nozzer89 @thisiscarts
Produced by Dan Lambert at Boston Sound | @bstnsnd
Additional voice-over Tom Turner
Additional research by Danielle St Romaine
Artwork & animation by Phil Whitton | @philwhitz
Opening theme by Alfie Indra | @alfieindra
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This is the penultimate episode of the series, any guesses what our final case will be? 👀
Zodiac? Golden State Killer? Aileen Wournos?
Michael Barrymore 🧐
Bob the Builder goes crazy-ache bonkers with a spanner?
My guess is... Dennis Nilsen??
My guess is Harold Shipman :)
I like you guy being funny. It’s a podcast, not a documentary.
Yup and i feel like it is still respectful and not tasteless
It's not much of a subject for levity.
I think some people may not quite get the dry British humour, I think you two are great and deliver great content that's far more informative and entertaining than other fact driven crime channels. Good episode 🤙
Thank you so much, mate!
It's your sense of humour and they way you know when you can and can't take the piss that makes your podcast and makes me recommend your podcast. Don't change and thanks for being so bingeable. I came for the Saville and stayed for the bants
this is good but there's not that much humour. not sure what people are going on about
@@Synthpoptroubadour that’s exactly what I was thinking like where is the humour really sure they might make a joke or 2 but that doesn’t help the images that go in my head listening to it.
@@Shrnirpledorp Exactly! Like when did they "take the piss'? They simply read their screens and told a story. Not bad, but I wasn't watching Chris Rock and Jim Carrey
I just discovered you, and love the way you talk about crimes, . please don't change your stile, makes you unique!
Thank you so much, Isabel!
The second most criminal thing about these podcasts are those comments telling you to change your ways. The chemistry & delivery is unreal, a literal 50/50 split (excluding the behind the scenes work of Dan) would be near impossible to forge! Keep it up lads!
Connor, you legend! Thank you :)
For me Myra is equally to blame, she completely enabled pretty much all of these atrocities, and reading the transcripts gives you an idea of how callous she was w it. Big up the brother in law for putting both these bozos in a cell
Chandlyman - too right she was! Myra drove the car that was used to abduct the victims, and she wore a wig to disguise herself. No way would any of the victims have got into the car without seeing a woman inside. She was a depraved human being, no question.
@@GradKat Rose West said she was "bloody dangerous". That speaks volumes.
Every time I see the Saddleworth sign on the M62 I can't NOT think about this, crazy. Keep up the good work guys.
I hate going to uni through there and thinking about how there could be a missing child buried somewhere nearby
Thanks Tom! Yeah, it’s a horrible thought knowing there’s still a body out there:(
There is also a M62 sign 10 miles north of Dewsbury by a hill. I always think that Paul McCartney is buried there.
Saddleworth road A635 Manchester to Holmfirth road last of the summer wine area , I am from near there and I must admit the moor land is beautiful on a nice day however it has a Erie atmosphere too it too I was born 1974 my parents were in their teens when the truth came out
The Smiths - "Suffer Little Children" introduced me to this nightmare of a story. Will binge your video right now.
👊
Hope you enjoy!
For me it was the manics- archives of pain.
It was The Smiths that introduced me to the Strangeways prison.
Same here ❤
Hi guys. So glad you covered this and it was a belter to listen to 😊 Apparently Ian Brady wanted his ashes scattered on the moors which was just grotesque and demonstrated his total lack of remorse... personally I would have just flushed the remains down the toilet! Keith Bennett's mother never got to give her son a decent buriel which breaks my heart 🙏😥
There's a great dramatisation of this from 2006 called See No Evil starring Sean Harris and Maxine Peake. Definitely worth a watch if you can find it.
Yes! Maxine Peake was absolutely haunting in that!
Harris n peake r perfect in that init.
It's on britbox if you not seen it
Honestly don't change the content you're blessing us with. I love the random hilarity and personality you're adding to the stories. It really separates you from other true crime content creators.
My dad was nearly taken by Myra.
He always says he sensed she was a bad person.
Great video.
was your dad on 'loose women'?
There's a reason Shakespeare put comedic relief in his heavy plays boys, keep it up. I don't get why people wouldn't just read a wikipedia page if they wanted only facts yano
My dads best mate was a police officer and he was in the court room when they played the recordings of the children....sadly him and other officers had to have counselling and quit the force ...he told us many stories about the case which are fascinating
I remember seeing a program with Keith's mum in it, Whinny I think she was called. She said she herself would drive up and bring a shovel and dig herself because the police eventually stopped. It was horrible, she looked so broken poor woman
She’s unbelievably strong. We included some photos of Winnie digging/paying respects/leading the search towards the end of the ep.
Winnie wrote to Myra Hindley in prison, begging her to reveal the whereabouts of her son’s grave. Hindley did not reply to the letter, but she told others that Winnie needed “to grow a brain”. This demonstrates the utter cold-hearted depravity of the POS that was Myra Hindley.
He was actually very protective of animals. He tied up some kid and got some other boys to beat the shit out of him for hurting, I believe, a bird. It’s what fascinates me because he has all the traits of a stereotypical killer except he loved animals and so it’s so interesting to me how he empathises with animals but not humans.
ALSO ANOTHER EXCELLENT VIDEOS FROM THE KINGS 👑❤️
Glad you're not going to change your style - I think the way you interact is brilliant. Your research and delivery is spot on. Thanks!
Thank you so much, Sally!
"The experiment is flawed"
Tom and Ben comparing hands during a serial killer themed podcast😂
The chemistry between you both is what keeps me watching this channel when there are many more I could choose, well done lads.
Thank you Del! Nice one :)
Same here you two are so funny but also respectful.
Lads, don't change a single thing about how you present your podcasts, you two are funny as f**k and it helps ease the grizzly details...I love this channel 👌
I live in a town called Glossop which is verrrry close to the mores where this happened, grimm!!!
Thank you so much, Aaron! Really appreciate that mate :)
@@ICouldMurderAPodcast He's trying to lure you to Glossop..... Don't fall for it!
@@pauljamessquibbs.3945 glossop just takes people and doesn't ever let you go 😂
@@ICouldMurderAPodcast no worries lads! I have only recently found your channel but I have already binged watches every episode. Both of your short games is strong aswell 😂
My Mum was born and raised in the same area as these crimes happened, she was 6 at the time and my Nana still struggles to talk about those times when they come up. Community is all there and apparently things were never quite the same after, unsurprisingly.
David smith’s book evil relations is heartbreaking and terrifying,you can feel the terror in his mind the night they murdered that poor boy Evans.if it hadn’t been for David lots more children would’ve died,it destroyed his life and he said Myra was absolutely stone cold and heartless she knew and enjoyed exactly what she was doing
Just thought I’d leave a comment to say that the reason I subscribed to you guys was because of the banter that you both have, it lifts the atmosphere a bit for me, especially in the darker episodes (the Ian Watkins one in particular 😭).. I think most other podcasts avoid it so as to not appear disrespectful, but I’ve never found you’ve crossed that line. I hope you keep doing what you’re doing ☺️
Thank you so much, we really appreciate that 😊
I first heard about this on Morbid and I have no words. This was rough case to listen too. Love your channel!
Thank you so much, Heather!
Awesome, thanks guys!
I love the humour breaks in otherwise harrowing cases.
Another job well done by Swampy and Skully.
You’re the best! Thanks Christine ❤️
I love your delivery! You guys have been making me smile all morning 😊
I live pretty close by to the Moors. Genuinely creepy place. My mother used to work with a relative of one of the victims. Needless to say we were taught a lot about stranger-danger.
Again absolutely AMAZING you set higher standards every episode and succeed those expectations I have every time #ICMAP
Thank you so much, Max!
One critique.... We need more Dan 😄
I’ve been waiting all day for this!!!
Hope it was worth the wait ❤️
Do not change anything about this channel, I love it and look forward to your episodes!
Thank you so much :)
ooo you did the Brady and Hindley one! I was excited for this!
Posting this before watching the episode.....I have seen pretty much every programme made on these two creatures, some more informative and interesting than others. The way you guys deal with your cases is a breath of fresh air, perfect mix of deep dive facts and, let's call it "pub table humour" 😂 Can't wait to watch this episode to see how it stacks up....I'll report back later😉
Hope you enjoyed Jim and thank you for the lovely comment :)
Been following you guys almost since the beginning... Congrats on wrapping up your successful FULL season! Keep em' coming & you've got a guaranteed fan for life right here!
Cheers from across the ol' pond in Chicago, Illinois!
Thanks so much, William!
I've been looking forward to this episode!!
Hope we did it justice for you!
@@ICouldMurderAPodcast absolutely nailed it! Lots of information I wasn't aware of!
You guys are smashing it! Very happy I found your channel/podcast
your intro videos are just unreal guys absolutely smashing it out of the park, keep doing what you're doing.
I only discovered you guys a couple of months ago but I now Mondays are the highlight of my week. I love how you deliver some of the worst cases of depravity but with a touch of humour 😁 Great work, I have told all of my friends about you !!
Thank you so much Becca, that means a lot!
As a kid in growing up in Liverpool, Brady being in Ashworth hospital made him seem like the boogeyman while he was alive. Every year on the anniversary of Keith Bennett’s death, his poor mum would be on the local news appealing for information and they’d always flash up the infamous mugshots of Hindley and Brady and it would freak me out.
Great pod as usual. Don’t listen to any fools criticising your styles of delivery. It’s what makes the pod unique.
When I was a youngster my football team used to take us to play and train at the Ashworth facilities.
We used to have to wait in reception and then they would lead us to a sports hall. Looking back it seems bizarre that a group of schoolboys were taken to train in an asylum that was home to Ian Brady! Was an eerie place! Don’t remember seeing any of the residents though!
Keep doing what you do so very well gentleman! Your humor is appreciated during these very grim stories; your banter even more so.
I'm binging all your videos. I love your banter. :D
So glad I found this channel. You guys are great! Research is very thorough, accurate and offer new information that is not necessarily known to the public in some cases. Can't get enough..would love to see you do one on The Amityville murders....Ronald Defeo Jr...... ( not the haunting but the murders from 1974) thank you
Never change you guys! I think you are funny... I'm so glad I was recommended your channel ❤️
Thank you so much :)
My grandad was a copper in the northwest back then n he actually heard the recordings Brady n hindley made. I think he regretted that listening experience some what.
I have heard those recordings were truly horrific .....
Also, who would dare doubt the comedic stylings of Bom...(Ten? - ah whatever)
Seriously though, you guys and yer banter are the reason most of us love the podcast so much, as you said: true crime podcasts are a dime a dozen. This one is refreshing and fun and informative, and its all because of you guys! Keep doing what you do!
Thank you so much!
The banter makes it lads. Don't change a thing. So glad l came across your podcast, class!
Thank you mate!
I love your style . Refreshing !
I'm so glad my mum and aunties are still here today they lived in gorton at the time when myra and Ian would cruise the streets my grandad actually warned them and im really grateful for that ❤ rip Edward, John, Keith, lesley and Pauline 🙏💔💐
As soon as people see how snazzy your shirts are each episode, they should know that this isn't your regular true crime podcast.
Haha! Thank you!
love the banter
Obsessed with this podcast now.
Watched your Menendez Bros last week and been hooked since! Great editing, thanks lads!
Thank you so much!
These are great, been listening while I work. Subscribed!
Thank you!
Love the show!
Just discovered this podcast from a coworker and I have been looking for a true crime podcast like this FOREVER !! Bravo boys.
Good to have you on board Tom!
Love the podcast guys, fantastic work yet again. For want of a better word, you make learning about and pondering true crime all the more fun and interesting again! Nasty pieces of work, these two though!
Thank you so much, Paul!
Fair play, lads......you really do get right down to basics with your fact finding. Some bits and pieces in there I hadn't heard before, made for a really interesting watch.....as per usual! Roll on the next one. 👍
Thanks so much, Jim!
just discovered your podcast and its a crime that you don't have more attention! I've listened to plenty true crime podcasts in the past but yours strikes the perfect balance between comedy and facts.
Thank you Judge! 🙌🏻
You guys came up in my reccomeded the other day, been hooked since. My mum and my best friend also love you now I've shown them😂🖤
This js c, s mum just watched the Soham case, now Jack the ripper you guys are brilliant 👏your so funny and bounce off each other the Andre chikatilo case has been my favourite today !!
love the intro!
Who’s saying you aren’t funny. You’re both ace. Ben’s slight awkwardness proper gets me 🤣
Ignore the haters, lads. Your show is tip top
Haha, thank you GG! The occasional anonymous profile has a pop but we are big boys!
@@ICouldMurderAPodcast easy one of my fave channels. Keep the wit and don’t change a thing. I look forward to your next vid :)
Forgot it was Monday so this was a good surprise :)
Really loving watching your series , even if it’s very bizarre at times !? 😜 Surprised that you’ve not done Fred and Rose west yet , this is a massive case with horrendous but very interesting contents . Looking forward to seeing more guys . Thanks .
Keep up the great work lads you've been killing it
Thank you mate!
The edits of faces on pics are too good! Myra doing Judo is a nightmare image I'll never get rid of out of my head! Hahahahahah
Haunting
As you see from the comments, we’re glad you’re not changing your style. You’re respectful to the people involved and we need a bit of brightness so please keep going guys. Also I love the coverage of this case. I know it inside out and you did it justice and were sensitive to the children and their families.
Thank you so much, we really appreciate this! ❤️
Excellent work guys! Truly a chilling and in depth episode! I have to agree with Ben... Myra's picture creeped me out so much as a kid! It was one of the first proper cases I read about as the picture chilled my soul 🤣🤣🤣 So much information you added that I missed! All caught up on all your content now! 😊 can't wait for the big one next week, bitter sweet feeling for the final of the season 😊 much love to you all ❤
Thank you so much, mate! Hope you are doing well. Myra’s mugshot would look scary in any context or circumstance - that’s always been my view. Thanks again for the nice words mate!
@@ICouldMurderAPodcastHonestly you are very welcome! I'm having a relatively tough time with my mental health, however watching your podcasts have helped a great deal so thank you to Tom, Ben and the team for bringing them to us! Myra's mugshot just to me is the first thing I think of when I think of the word Evil! Got more sinister when I read on about the case! That's very true! If she was my lunchlady, I'm opting for pack lunches! Incredible work and always here to watch and comment! All the best to you all 😊
37,000 views. 1,000 likes. Why? Did the other 36,000 not like the video?
Excellent narration. Thank you.
ive binged on all your eps and run out. im now sad. these are awesome
found the patreon, problem solved
I only became aware of this case when I was a teen, looking back on my childhood my family used to go to Devon a lot for holiday. We’d frequently go for walks on the Moore’s. To think now how many bodies are still undiscovered. Loving the podcast, you guys are epic. I hope you do Gypsy Rose next, or the 1965 highway 101 sniper attack Michael Andrew Clark.
Thank you so much, Kat! We just dropped a 35 minute episode on Gypsy Rose over on our Patreon :)
dont mind me, just going on a ICMAP binge before going back to bed lmao
Really loving the shirt as well Ben. I also think you're both hilarious by the way, it's the main reason I stay and I think it's one of the main reasons so many others stay as well, you're always gonna have a mixed bag of people watching these anyway, but keep doing what you're doing because it's brilliant.
Really appreciate that mate! 🙌🏻
Smashed it out the park again lads!
Thank you!
cant tell where bens shirt stops and his tattoos start
love the poddddddddddd great ep!
I love your banter
I'd completely forgotten that the photo of Maureen & David appearing at court was used on the cover of Goo by Sonic Youth.
Strangeways is so called as that was the name of the park/area it was built on.
Thank you mate, all adds up!
@@ICouldMurderAPodcast if you’re REALLY interested it probably stems from the old English for ‘by a strong riverway’ and the area has been called something like strangeways since the 1300s
Just popped on yt to put 1 of your vids on... Timed that just right for a new 1 😉👍 cheers lads
Thanks Jessica! Hope you enjoyed :)
Regarding the intro, ignore the comments.
Discovered this channel earlier this week, cant stop watching you. Love the in depth research you guys do and the the combo of comedic/serious delivery. Keep um coming lads.
P.S im staying for the Tom's tash game and Bens shirt game.
Thank you mate! That means a lot :)
Loved the way you said of Loch Lomond
I could murder a...Pot noodle!(Do you remember the advert from the 90s?)😂
Thanks guys really love the British Crimes :)
Thank you!
I’m watching this in November. Holidays are incoming….
The effect the murders had on the parents was absolutely horrific. Their lives were completely destroyed. In interviews with them you could tell how heartbroken they were.
Keep doing what you’re doing guys .. a little levity goes a long way 💖
Thank you Carmel! Hope you are doing well!
I have a complaint, you only upload once a week it’s outrageous and how dare you take a brief break what am I going to watch on Mondays?
God, I love this show
The audacity some ppl have to dictate how you present your podcast! New sub
Best podcast :))
Thanks Seb!
Strangeways's names is purely to do with the area in which the prison is based, its actual name is HM Prison Manchester, It's name is to do with the river not the prison. It's a strong brewing area, Fred Dibnah did a documentary about the chimney from the brewery.
Thank you!
I really enjoy Ur podcasts and the way U do them💙I Appreciate All of Ur Hard Work and Jokes🤘🖤😝🖤🤘
Thanks Nicole!
@@ICouldMurderAPodcast Oh Thanks So Much🥰That's So Badass of U to reply back! Y'all R Awesome🤘🖤😝🖤🤘
Keep up the good work, guys. Ignore the hate. You don't need to change anything you're doing. It's a different spin to the usual criminal podcasts/videos and you're own opinions and views make it unique. It's more like you're talking to us as opposed to talking at us.
Been hoping you'd do an episode on these. My band named our albums after them (The Myra Hindley Crèche Facility and The Ian Brady Bunch). Even got a song about Fred West (MotorFred (Ace With Spades)). Would love to hear your views on him and Rose.
Thank you so much for the lovely feedback, we appreciate that! The Ian Brady Bunch - wow! Haha. We will 100% cover Fred and Rose in the not too distant future!
Became a patreon the other day, worth it if you ask me. Also wanted to mention how you two go back n forth with your humour reminds of the original Ricky gervais, Karl Pilkington n Stephen merchant xfm radio show, way back in the day!
Thank you so much, Reece! That is high praise indeed (best podcast EVER, those three). And thank you so much for becoming a patreon, we truly appreciate that :)
@@ICouldMurderAPodcast haha it's all good man, am currently enjoying going through them now... and yes those 3 are the best. Keep up the good work!
You guys are brilliant! I watch a lot of true crime videos and channels, and you guys are killing it! (Sorry!) Those people who don't find you funny obviously don't have any class! Keep up the good work, really appreciate what you do. Ta very muchly.x
Thank you so much for the lovely feedback, Stephanie :)
I think your both funny ,I think you are both great.Another great podcast .always look forward to your podcasts.Best one out there 😎🇮🇪🦋🤗
My lookalike: Ian Brady looks kinda like Steve-o from Jackass.
Here’s the guyyyy! ❤️🔥
The image of Maureen Hindley and David Smith at 39:13 was re-drawn and used by Sonic Youth for their 1990 album goo.
Damn, I'm setting off in over an hour to work so do I watch this now or save it for later ? hmm
ps looks like I'm watching now.. hey don't ever change your style boys - these videos are brilliant!
Thank you so much mate!
I love the fact your both funny .you always make me laugh.😎🇮🇪
Thank you Catherine!
Cheeers guys good work :)
Cheers!
@@ICouldMurderAPodcast Still watching :D great work!! :)
by the way a friend of mine is a survivor of Harold, He has a crazy story. anyway, cheers