Talaria Sting Offical Review || Is the Talaria Better Than the Sur-ron?!
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- čas přidán 15. 04. 2022
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TKS. For an honest review. I'm saving my money for a Talaria!
if youre over 5'8 id go with the sur ron and height upgrades. both bikes will feel like a childs toy stock
Never rode a ron. No regrets buying the sting. Still crazy how quiet it is! Riding in silence is weird. Riding with music is also weird. BOTH are awesome!! I am addicted!!
I completely agree with you about the weight of the Tilaria being heavier than the Surron. You won't get beat up nearly as much like you will on a Surron. Allowing the suspension to do its job and soak up the bumps.
What a freakin' great review. Thanks, you've steered me to the Talaria, since I'm all about trails.
I agree with the start button. Usually I'm not one for extra nannies and safeties on stuff, but like you say, it's good to have that extra step so you don't just turn the key and the bike is hot. It's the same procedure I'm already used to on my gas road bike so that familiarity is nice too. Same mentality I have towards the left hand brake. I was surprised to find having a rear brake where I'm used to the clutch being isn't as weird an experience as I'd thought it would be. I normally pull that lever in before braking anyways, so other then still looking for a phantom toe brake, the transition was pretty easy.
Thanks for the upload and review, since i want to ride offroad more i think im going to go with the Talaria.
Dope video. Cool to see the subtle differences playing out in the real world!
I picked up a Sting a week ago. Its a great bike. On my tracks Eco mode only just makes it up but Sports has plenty of power. Havnt been able to ride it for last 3 days due to rain. Sick of washing it down so waiting for sime good weather. Good excuse to get the mx boots and gear out.
Great review. I am very interested in how you use the gear box during the scrambles and .. drum roll, ,could a gear box be retrofitted to the Sur Ron. It seems like the bikes are very similar. - UPDATE: I now better understand that the gearbox does not allow one to "shift gears," and I left my foolish question in to save others from making the same mistake.
Absolutely brilliant chain of videos on the Talaria and the Sur ron comparison, thank you very much! I'm picking one up for city use mostly to bob and weave traffic and also do the odd jump and forest shortcut, and while i was leaning a lot into the Talaria, over here it's about a nice chunk of change more expensive. I think i'm mostly sold on the Sur ron from your videos, especially since over here there's more official representation for the Sur ron and probably better warranty/service on them.
I'd kill for a gearboxed Sur ron though.
The Tilaria is still much better. It has more suspension travel, better gear box and a larger battery. It's basically an upgraded Surron.
You can probably loosen the display and move it closer to the center of your handlebars, that would eliminate one of those cons!
It’s awesome to see soemone doing hare scrambles on these. Makes me really want to get one. I bet you don’t get as exhausted riding one of these.
Correct! Much better riding a 150lbs bike very a 230lbs
Just sold my honda africa twin today
Just looking for something to cruise around town and some offroad might pick one of these up.
Should be receiving mine tomorrow. Im so pumped!!!
Did you get your Talaria yet mate?? I Remember when my Sur-Ron was due tomorrow but 5wks later I was still waiting👀🙏lol!! Hope you’ve received it and loving life like myself when the surron finally came bro👍👊🏼🤙🤙🤙
@@chrisjones8971 yea I got it 2 Tuesdays ago
It’s amazing!!! I have over 160 miles on it so far. It’s the most fun I’ve ever had on a motorcycle. I’ve taken places I wouldn’t take my dirt bike. I’m very impressed with it. I ride it every chance I get
@@nickolaslandon4640 i’m getting one next week
@@Gamers4511 Geat to hear mine is coming next month!
@@laureljensen796 what website do you recommend buying the sting from?
Totally agree with the weight, its why im going a storm.
Had a surron since release my talaria ships Monday instantly purchased one after riding my buddy’s it’s far better stock vs stock talaria wins in every way and probably even with a bac 72 v because it’s heavier it will feel more
Stable I bet
I'm glad to see you've taken on a hare scramble. How did the Talaria perform in the race? Which bike (including an upgraded 72v SurRon) would be better for that specific type of riding in your mind? I've seen a few people that raced their Talaria's have overheating issues (in much muddier conditions than I'm seeing in your video). Did you run into any of that in your race?
I hear of this too. No, I didnt run into any overheating at all. So thats good. I prefer the Talaria I think.
Great review. I live in south Florida where it's tabletop flat with few trails and the trails are sandy and flat but I'll be doing all of my riding on the road. I'm 100% interested in range (larger ah batteries will be out soon for the Talaria) and like the quietness and the gearbox of the bike. I just sold a modded Sondor's because it was way too large and heavy. I'm 71 years old and want something more manageable. With all of this in mind do you still suggest the Sur-ron for my style of riding? Thanks.
Same - beef farmer Australia.
I’m 58 and thought I was a little old to be getting excited about one of these… I think the Talaria looks better.. on the fly regen, no belts, wider swing arm…. If I can get one I’ll get one
I liked the use of the horn in this vid… lol lol lol
Nice review. seems legit.
Just patiently waiting for 72v batteries and BAC controllers for these before I buy one 🙃
Thank you
When and where can I purchase a surron?
I’m going to be riding on roads and trails.. I think you sold me on the talaria though
It should be a better version, it started production around 2020-2021 the sur ron is the OG of e bikes. Better bike will come out but you got to have a sur ron in that garage to go along with the toys 💪
I has the choise between the SUR RON and the TALARIA and i choose the SUR RON because he have a better power curve, the seat angle is not too mutch in front like the TALARIA and the fiability of the TALARIA is maybe good but i don't know. (Just specify that TALARIA i ride is a October 2021 version and i know they change a little bit since.)
the battery won't get damaged if i wheelie the talaria into an elevator, right? the elevator is too small but the talaria fits if i raise the bike onto it's back tire, thus the battery is sideways inside the bike (jic i do this 4 times a day 5 times a week at least)
No, it won't hurt it. It could be upside down and wouldn't bother it
Nice review I bought my surron bcos of 1 of yourself and was the best idea move i made so thanks for that brotha❤️👊🏼👊🏼, How are the Dorados performing I’ve noticed you had them on both bikes and I’m wanting some myself😬lol!! What size did you go with the 27.5 or the 19.5s I’d really appreciate reply mate🙏❤️👊🏼🏴🏴
29,5s🤣lol, come off my surron dislocated my shoulder and still on pain killers🤦♂️lol
Thanks for the kind words. 🙂 Love the forks. I have 27.5 but if i could get my hands on 29 i would
I’m mostly gonna be doing free ride jumps what would you recommend?
Surron would be better jumping. Or KTM front shocks for this
Thanks
Take the kickstand off as well
Can't see your last video about the sting
I’ll be riding road and trail…. I honestly don’t know what to get
My Sur Ron will be here Monday but 99.9% of my riding is trails. I wish I wasn't so impatient and did a little more research, I would've bought the Talaria.
Surron is still a great trail bike and lots of fun to ride. If or when you wanted to switch to a Talaria, the Sur-ron are very easy to sell on the 'USA surron owners group' on facebook.
Great review! But we all know deep down inside that the Talaria is the better bike😊
Im at 250 or so miles, filmed my review videos last Friday and should have them up in a few days. Ill put another 20-30 miles on it today:)
Is your battery tray still in one piece?
Probably yours isn’t 😂😂😂. Ever get it replaced?
I wonder if you spray the stock bash plate with truck bed liner, will it hold up better?
Good idea
Is this a thing a 6 foot 7 person would fit on ?
Probably not. I'm 6'1 for reference
Well, not what I was expecting, Talaria for trail SurRon for street? 🤔
So you didn't have any issue with the limited stearing angle on the Talaria huh?
Would like to hear more on why you think it's better for dirt riding.
Had no problems with steering or turning.
@@electricisbetter how much better for dirt would you say? A large margin, small?
@@PhiTonics large
Where do I order one??? Frrl I've looked everywhere
Ebikezilla. You'll have to pre-order it
Very interesting review - thank you.
PS - stop honking so often man, it'll drain the battery :)))))
Please where can I buy the cheapest Talaria but sur ron thank you
Best bet is on either the Talaria FB group page or the surron FB page. People sell used bikes there for a good price usually
So in terms of hours how long does it last?
Riding like this, 50 minutes per battery. If you were cursing slower it could last way long. Hour and a half easy
@@electricisbetter 🙏🏽
Which one is better for wheelies?
So, you want to do tricks with a single wheel. Get an EUC, that's all it does. Literally originated from the circuit.
No, I don't care for doing them myself... I just want to see him do one like surronster does.
@@IJOJaws Wheelies are easy on Sur ron or Talaria, once you got it, you got it. However, riding trails at high speed required constant adaptation and skills. You would think Surronster mastered his ebike but he actually do poorly on trails, especially taking corners.
@@theanimalplanet7031 The guy literally asked specifically about wheelies and you reply with “get an euc”. Can’t fkn wheelie an euc bruh. Either you’re trolling or have rocks for brains.
I have had mine for about a week.. and as stupid as it is.. it annoys me that the inside of a few of the bolts are rusting on the head.
If you want it to be heavy might as well get a stealth bomber I bet I could smoke bothe the surron and the talarua on this trail on my 8000w stealth bomber
Short answer. Nope. It's not lol. I own both. SR more fun. Seat angle on the Talaria is kind of bogus for my body.
Maybe post a video on how to disable All those sensors properly and how to stow them away so it doesn't become a problem later.
I own both too! :)
just un plug them ;)
I have to agree on the seat angle thing. I think a taller fork and 21" front wheel would solve the issue - but agree in stock form it is brutal. They need to take a look at modern mx bikes and realize a flatter seat will allow you to move all over the bike with ease.
I will say though I'm coming from a surron x and I much prefer the talaria already. The surron seat is similar but not quite as bad - but theres way too many other pros for me to miss the surron for my use.
All the Surron fan boys trying to talk me out of the talaria is because of the turning radius.. looks pretty good to me in this vid…
which is better for a taller and larger rider? I am 6'4'' 230 lbs and very much interested in purchasing one of these bikes.
The Talaria is a big bigger than a Sur-ron.
Where can I get that sick Blade Runner headlight? Lol.
Amazon, Luna Cycle, surronshop
What's your height and weight? thanks
6'1" 160lbs
So basically the only difference is the Sting has a higher level of regenerative braking and is slightly bigger with a bigger seat? The Talaria's wider tires is hardly worth mentioning since it's only 10mm which is just under half an inch. And the Talaria's extra 1,000 Watts of power is negated by the extra weight of the bike. I've been wanting a small electric dirt bike for a long time but until one comes out with an actual dirt bike fork there's no way I'm going to spend that kind of money. Since Talaria isn't selling many of these bikes they better step up their components to create a real buzz in the industry.
I think I like the SurRon better purely for the aftermarket community, yes they have a lead, but I also think they will keep it, I have no idea how long it will take for people to make battery's or controllers for this, let alone rear triangles and bash guards, if at all.
SurRon deffinatly has a big lead with how many are on the market.
And that oil change.. weren't we trying to get away from that stuff? 🤔
No need for rear triangle on talaria, shock is mounted differently. No doubt aftermarket brackets will be made for the talaria too though.
@@bowenpitts7624 ah! Interesting!
Very true, I'm being impatient 😆
Id rather take 5min to change my oil then replace my snapped belt and get stranded in the middle of the road, no shit the talaria doesnt have much after market parts, it legit just came out a couple months ago, the people who made the 72v upgrade for the sur ron made the talaria sting 😘
@@chip3090 well.. a snapped belt takes about 10 minutes to fix honestly, and so light it's worth carrying an extra, but I'd be running a chain myself and carrying a master link, so no worries there in my mind. More worried about adding 50-100 extra moving parts to a bike that didn't really have that many before, so curious how well those gearboxes will hold up over time, esp if people start pushing extra power through them.
I hear such whispers about Talaria and its "team" and management, but I honestly can't find any real information about the company's profile press wise, they are about as in the shadows as the team at SurRon imo. Can you remember where you came across that information? I'd very much like to know more about them.
@@PhiTonics it was people that workt before with surron, but they deciced to make a surron but better, sorry for my bad english
I’m pretty sure both bikes are pushing 6000w out of the box.
Talaria is 6kw, surron is 5kw. But the surron is about 30lbs lighter than Talaria. So they go about the same top speed
Why are my comments being deleted? I’m posting links to multiple official Sur Ron sites showing 6000w out of the box specification.
@@easyheimer not sure on the deleted comments, but the Sur-ron motor is 'RATED' for 6kw, but the controller on the bike only allows for up to 5kw of power for it. Of course with a different controller and battery it can pull way more.
@@electricisbetter thanks for clarifying. I’m not trying to bash the Talaria as I have both bikes. They just feel extremely similar, with the Talaria having more torque on the low end.
@@easyheimer I just learned last week, CZcams auto deletes any links posted in the comment section of any videos.
lol, hi I R Noob that just 5k'ed on a bike like this... never rode offroad... gonna be fun hahaha (see timestamp 2:00)
Just strap some rocks to the Sur-Ron if you want it heavier.
There's no such thing as more weight being helpful, only lightweight bikes that are sprung or damped wrong. Sincerely, a TransAm2 pit crewman.
Over priced, Sur ron or Talaria only cost 2k-2.5k on Alibaba. Distributors really need to eat $1000+ per ebike?! Same deal with the 72v batteries. I am thinking just buy the frame from China and the electrical harness and put together the best parts. KO motor and controller, Fox front and back suspension, build my own 72v battery.
I didn't find any on there.
@@BearMetro Their search engine is not so great, but also because they host billions of things. You have to be creative in your search to find it, basically, find synonyms of it.
29.5s🤦♂️🤣