If god created consciousness then it would be a removal of consciousness and if it’s a removal of consciousness then I wouldn’t be able to perceive it so then it wouldn’t be terrifying at all
I hate when people do that lol they pretend like everything in the Bible is literal when Jesus spoke on metaphors 90% of the time and criticized people who didn't look deeper to understand.
"That's merciful" God is a merciful God Edit: Ok, let me explain what I meant. God is an Immortal, all-powerful, all-seeing, and all-knowing God, he was here before time began, and he'll stay here even after the end of time. He did not create Hell for us, he made it for the Devil and the Demons, and he does not wish for anyone to go to Hell. It's why he sent his son Jesus to die on the cross. It's our decision to not choose God, and not to believe in Jesus that sends us to hell. Again, God does not wish for anyone to go to hell.
@quesodagod8840 Not really, you have thousands and millions of chances throughout your life to choose to follow God. God reaches out to you every single day, he's trying to reach your soul every second of every day. If you choose to ignore and reject God, then you have no reason to be mad at God when he rejects you.
I don't think it's necessarily wrong nor trying to argue against god in terms of sending people to heaven or hell, but I do believe that showing mercy doesn't mean to forgive, but to relieve consequence of something. And so the second he chooses that people must go to hell, he's no longer being merciful. And so at least it makes no sense to me that people call him merciful when, for at least the Christian religion from what I know, is built upon a god creating a consequence for every action he sees as immoral or "sinful" and so is about as far from merciful as you can get@RRagan
@reecemorley8860 he is merciful while your alive. You can ask him for forgiveness at any point in your life. Then second you put your faith in christ, you are saved. But God is the God of the living, not the dead. The second you die, you lose your chance to turn to God. So if you die and you rejected God, then there is nothing Jesus can do for you. He is the way, the light. People think that they have to live a good life, but there are no good people in God eyes. There are 2 types of people, there are unsaved sinners, and saved sinners (Christians) Christians are going to heaven because of their faith, not their works. And unsaved sinners end up in hell because of THEIR choice to reject God. God does not send people to hell, people simply send themselves to hell. It is your choice where you want to go and spend eternity. If you want to have a more in depth conversation where I can explain this better, message me on Instagram @Benjamin.bornagain. I encourage you or anyone who wants to know the truth to do so. I promise it will be the best decision you ever make, and it will change your life.
So we're going to ignore the Rich man that Jesus described that was suffering in Hell to the point where he was begging for a single drop of water to ease his pain.
Still a metaphor and likely a parable. Because clearly heaven and hell do not meet if hell is separation from God. So how is Lazarus able to speak to the rich man? And notice that the rich man said I am in agony in this fire, yet does not ask to be removed from the fire but asked for water to cool his “tongue”. There is so much more to this story than believing literally that hell is fire. Also it’s interesting that the rich man NEVER asked to be removed from hell. He asked for water because he wanted to be in Hell, he chose hell, he just didn’t like the unfortunate circumstance of hell. While he asked that his family be warned not to come to this “place of torment”, he himself didn’t plead to leave. It’s the unfortunate circumstance of a mind away from God. A mind burdened and slaved to sin.
I’m Muslim and the Quran has never been changed and still remains the same religious scripture since it’s creation and so I am not familiar with most these issues like the translation being lost in time due to thousands of alterations/variations of the religious books like the Bible being made. But look he was saying in the video it could be metaphorical since the Quran sometimes does use metaphors I get that part and it could mean something other then tangible (burning/fire) and needing actual (water/liquids) and could be any kind of suffering like going through death non stop like idk getting shot to death then right after getting stabbed then right after having lava poured on u then the next for all eternity and the single drop of water could be a second of salvation from that wether it be a pause before having to return to that never ending cycle or it could be more mental were u witness your loved ones being tortured and u wish them a second of peace aka single drop a water or your in an empty void for eternity and have gone past crazy from boredom after just a few hours and wish for a single drop a entertainment aka water and any other type of variations of suffering and form of “water” that could ease that suffering if even jus a single drop or second I hope that helps and makes it a little easier to put in perspective since none of us truly know what hell is like it’s just about how it’s interpreted
I mean to be fair, Jesus described His separation from God prior to being crucified similarly. So I don’t think what you’re saying and what he’s dating are two mutually exclusive things.
I mean to be fair, Jesus described His separation from God prior to being crucified similarly. So I don’t think what you’re saying and what he’s dating are two mutually exclusive things.
I was raised atheist, am self proclaimed agnostic now. Usually when I hear preachers talk, it’s extremely easy to dismiss their rhetoric and only take away the moral goodness that they talk about. However, this man talks about Christianity in a way I’ve never heard it talked about before. I’m very intrigued, and while I may not believe in Christianity as it is commonly presented, I am not opposed to the idea of an afterlife and the stories of the bible were ultimately founded on some level of truth, likely lost through translation and analogy.
Awesome dude! Check out Michael Heiser and Tim mackie, they are some cool starting points to help unpack stuff in a de-americanized way, aiming to understand books of the Bible how the ancient authors would have intended. Sadly a lot of junk can get mixed in with the gospel sometimes, but don’t mistake the words of flawed sinners (like me) for Jesus! I guarantee you he’s much better ;)
this is my biggest problem as a Christian. I'm aware that there are A LOT of bad ppl that uses the religion as an excuse for their actions or just lie, hypocritical, and screw the words into their own meaning. unfortunately, its hard to find preachers that objectively speak about the bible and can make it easy to comprehend
You don’t have to be religious. Accept Jesus Christ into your heart and you will be saved (Romans 10:9-10). Your relationship with the Holy Spirit is founded on God’s Word and is not a set of rituals that you must follow. Religious actions don’t save you. A relationship with Jesus Christ does. Also, be careful you are not putting this CZcamsr on a pedestal. For it is written in 1 Corinthians 3:4, “For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not mere human beings?”
@@LukeFourPlayerChess its just that i find myself unable to believe that god exists. Personally i’ve not had any experiences that alot of people that do believe in him have. Though who knows that might chance as time goes on
A place devoid of God including His attributes and fruits. That is a place without light, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, forgiveness etc.
My cousin told me about a dream he had where it was nothing but blackness, like if you dove into a TV screen while it’s off, but even darker. He said he could talk or tell or anything, there was absolutely no sound. He also mentioned a weird feeling, like being totally hopeless and alone, he could only described it as “I was in a place where God wasn’t looking, like he had turned his back to me.”
I assume ur talking about the book from like 1100 about 9 layers of hell and if so how bc that book not many truly know about as a global population as well as he took stuff from the Bible to influence that disgrace of a book
When Jesus said "I am the light", he is more than a 100-watt bulb, LITERALLY. because he is "as bright as the midday sun" that made John fell down like a dead man, LITERALLY. When Jesus said "thrown into fiery furnace, where they will cry and gnash their teeth" that was literal. If what you meant by 'destroyed' is to 'vanish', then you are making it look like going to heaven is optional. Optional whether you want to live the best eternal life in heaven, or the best temporary life on earth. Well I guess this is what they say, "you can't have the best of both worlds". Biblically, "you can't serve two masters at a time" God's mercy is available now. Grab it while you can. This is the chance, this is the time, because there is no more chance once you die. God would sacrifice his only begotten son for us to be saved because he knows how terrible it will be to go to hell. If bad people will just vanish, then it is not worth it for God to die on the cross, and there will be no enough reason for a sinner to give up their wicked ways. This pastor talks well and defends the bible well. I like hearing his conversations with other people, and I've learned a lot from him, but saying this is a big mistake. You guys, read your own bible and have a relationship with God for you to be able to discern what's good, and what's bad. What's for him, and what's against him.
When I was younger, I had to have multiple surgeries all bc I had an appendectomy gone wrong. I was very close to death. During one of those surgeries, I apparently started to drift away. I don't remember exactly what happened, but I remember a little still to this day, and people there told me what I was speaking to them about during the procedure. I was telling them that it was so dark and cold, I knew there was someone in the dark with me, but I couldn't see them in the beginning. Then, all of a sudden, I saw flames light the dark, and it wasn't as cold. My cousin passed away a few years before this (he was my best friend), and he was with me crying and apologizing, asking for me to forgive him and for my family to forgive him. He told me to get out of there. After a moment, there was this incredible bright white light, and I went from being consumed by anxiety to being calm...the monitors apparently were going crazy and then calmed down. I remember seeing the beautiful light and red rose petals falling. The doctors started laughing when I said, "My papaw said he is going to whip your ass if you hurt me." My mother said they thought I was relaying a message from a living relative. I wanted to stay there with him. Once my mom let them know who my papaw was and that he was passed, they decided to wrap up the procedure as fast and as safe as they could so they could wake me up. This clip and the talk about hell brings this to my mind. Hell was dark, cold, lonely, but there was fire. I was in the 7th/8th grade when this all happened. I'm 36 now, and I still remember what I saw. If it wasn't for my mom, I would not remember what I was speaking of.
Yeah, but here they still have mercy of God, He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. And I don't know if that will be a case after death.
About 4 years ago i overdosed on heroin laced with fentanyl.. while I was unconscious I could still feel my body. When i "opened" my eyes it was nothing but black. I could still feel my body though i couldnt see it. I was alone "floating in nothingness but i know for a fact i wasnt alone. There was a light, a warm sensation and i could feel so peaceful. I woke up 36 minutes later in the hospital after 2 shots of narcan and defibrillators on me. There was 8 doctors standing around me in complete shock one of them saying oh my god i cant believe he's alive. My body was already shutting down and i couldnt feel my legs. I started shaking and convulsing soon after. To this day the only reason im alive is because god has a plan for me i havent yet achieved. His grace and compassion led to my friend carrying my body through the house and into the car then to the hospital. The doctors there are also part of gods plan for not giving up and saving someone they dont even know
I believe that God works in mysterious ways. And I think me over dosing was a slap in the face for me to realize what I was throwing away. And he created everything, all good things and all bad things. And he gives us the choice and freedom to decide whether or not to live a holy life or a sinful life.
@@ridgesailthat's what agency means. If God was going to do everything for us, what's the point in being alive. It's hard, but that was always the point. Everything eventually points back to God and somewhere in everyone, I believe we can all know it
Revelation 14:11 only refers to smoke of torment rising forever, not the actual torment. Assuming it's not just a metaphor or assuming it's not referring to a moment other than the final punishment, the fire's evidence via smoke will never fade, but that doesn't mean the people burnt up will remain alive forever, especially if they are unsaved without access to the tree of life in the heavenly city / the incorruptible bodies granted by victory in Jesus Christ. The fire of God always consumes people. Never preserves them. The fire was made for the devil and his angels. Humans are destroyed there, not persevered. Cremated. Jesus (and the apostles and the Psalmist) can all state very clearly God will destroy the lost (annihilationism) in hell. The Bible teaches the lost will stand before God and then suffer proportionally for their sins in hell and then be annihilated (John 3.16 = perish, be destroyed). That is the punishment. Death, destroyed, etc. And how long will this destruction last? Forever, it is eternal punishment. destroy both soul and body in hell." James 4:12-"There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy..." Matthew 7:13-14-"Broad the road that leads to destruction..." 2 Thessalonians 1:9-"Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction" Philippians 3:19-"Whose end is destruction" Galatians 6:8-"...from that nature will reap destruction..." Psalm 92:7-"...it is that they (i.e. all evil doers) shall be destroyed forever" It is clear, the lost will be destroyed in hell, not preserved in hell. You have to redefine destroyed into meaning preserved.
@@Angel-vb5ot Look at the passage that Jesus is quoting, Isaiah 66:24. There are corpses in the Valley of Hinnom (or Gehenna in Greek), and it is their worm (the maggots eating the bodies) that does not die.
@@Bryson5100 Jesus used the name to references hell, where the worm never dies and the fire is not quenched. He frequently referenced earthly things to explain spiritual truths, or do you believe He was saying the worms and the fire in a garbage dump, on earth, literally never die?
certain types of fuel can burn invisible. im not chemist but there are many colors of fire. IF you wanna try to be literal natural gas burns blue coal or wood has orange and yellows to them fireworks can burn wacky colors like green, blue, red, white, and so on the only reason invisible fire is perceptible is cuz of how it makes the air wavy. like a dessert mirage, a black top parking lot, or the hood of a car in summer. again, i know there is a substance that can burn a fire with no color. which would mean A LOTTA HEAT but no light being given off.
I will enjoy every second in hell, or not because your skydaddy isnt real. Even if he was i still might get into heaven because you lot cant make up your mind on what you actually need to do to get into heaven, most branches of christianity dont even believe in hell, catholics do.
@@SatanMcLovin you expect us to believe that your resentment and anger towards Christianity points to you being at peace? it does quite the opposite actually. Enjoy life, have fun, love others, and remember every single person on this Earth is your family.
Some advice for both Christians and non Christians Read the Proverbs. There are 31 chapters so you could do one a day for a month if you like. It is based mostly on knowledge, wisdom and how to be a good person
@@Atlas_high-gaming you should read it. Maybe you’ll be a little less condescending. Whether or not you read the bible for religious purposes is up to you. But the bible is a historical book. A record Of history and our ancestors. Proverbs is a great suggestion to start. I urge everyone to Give it a try.
@@agnesmarie oh I have, when I was 14 I thought I should at least learn the book to hate it better and after 30 mins and 50ish pages I gave it up because the entire first bit is just "god is good, earth is good bc god made it" and it rearranged those words for 3 paragraphs like a kid trying to make the word count on their paper. The Bible is as historical a book as the illiad, both books from history about our world but with no basis in reality. You claim to want a record of history and our ancestors but instead read the 60AD equivalent of Harry Potter, the magic baby who will defeat the great evil! Go read some accounts from some actual historians, they may be bias but at least we realize that.
I always thought Hell was the void, darkness, nothing and when you are sentenced to it, you’re absorbed into it, you slowly lose yourself, becoming nothing but darkness and despair.
It’s not so much the be forgotten part for me. I could care less tbh. It’s the possible destinations that terrify me. On the flip side. When I’m walking with the Lord. I’m at complete peace. And physical death would be the best thing that could ever happen to me. I mean this with every fiber of my body.
@@soupsandwich. I don’t believe in hell. Its Makes it seem like there is a partnership going on and God plans on destroying the devil in the end times. The lake of fire in my opinion is like lava. It consumes you and burns you to ash leaving nothing left of you. So yes there are 2 destinations, heaven or eternal death, never to be seen again
@@JuanCarlos-zi5hy what do you mean a partnership? And yes the dragon will be thrown into the lake in the end. his days are numbered. And there is a hell. Hell is separation from God. And some of the descriptions in scriptures tells us that it’s like a blazing furnace- Mathew 13:50 It’s darkness-Mathew 22:13, 2 Peter 2:17 Separation- Mathew 7:23 And there is a lake of fire. - Revelation 20:14, Mathew 25:41, revelation 20:10 But I believe hell it self is not the lake of fire but will be thrown into the lake at the end. "For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment”- 2 Peter 2:4 So they are sent to hell and are in chains till judgment when they will be thrown into the lake. We read this in revelation 20:10 Hell is a very real real place. Don’t let the devil deceive you bro. How can we avoid something that we believe does not exist? He knows his time coming so he’s trying to take us with him.
The weeping and gnashing of teeth doesn’t take place in the lake of fire. It’s at the judgement. “In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God but you yourselves cast out.” Luke 13:28 The lake of fire is the second death in John’s vision. Gehenna is where Jesus said both body and soul are destroyed.
I'm a Muslim, and i want to ask you Christians a question. So what is it? Do you Christians believe in a literal hellfire or not? And why the confusion and difference of opinion?
I was an atheist for many years and the issue of hell always turned me away from Christianity. I used to wonder why can't God just not send us to hell? But if God were to just leave us alone and not punish us for our immoral deeds he would be a bad judge even by the standards of a court on earth. If I knew my neighbor raped and murdered someone, ignoring it and not calling the police would make me guilty as well. So God cant just leave us alone to keep on sinning as he is perfect and cannot tolerate imperfection. I also used to think that eternal punishment for finite sin was unjust but because God is infinite and not limited by the constraints of time(which he created) to Him our sins are happening over and over every second. Doesn't matter if you murdered someone yesterday or 80 years ago, it's still just as bad. Also because we are created in God's image, our souls are eternal(the Bible doesn't explicitly say anything about annihilation so we can't be sure if its a possibility or not). Like they were talking about in the video, we don't know exactly what hell will be like. Knowing that God is a fair judge many Christians speculate that there will be various degrees of punishment for the offenses committed(similar to the various rewards people will receive in heaven). It wouldn't make sense for someone who only told a few lies in their life to be burning right next to the murderers. So non-existence would be a more desirable outcome as God can't let us keep on sinning eternally. Ultimately, Hell is the place/state of being that God designated for those who reject Him and don't want anything to do with Him. God knew that true love could only exist if there is free will(otherwise we'd be like programmed robots). If I love someone but they insist on distancing themselves from me, the loving thing to do is let them go, not lock them up in a room and force them to love me. So God made us in his image, and gave us total free will. If we insist on being separated from him then he will honor our decision. Because we are made like God, we desire to be God, our natural sinful instinct is to selfishly seek praise for ourselves and we want to decide what is right and wrong. We reject God's laws because we like how sin makes us feel but also because we don't like being told what to do. But for those who desire to be reconciled with God, Jesus(being God in human form) took our punishment and paid our fine in God's court so he can legally let us go. Then on top of that he gives us a new heart that no longer desires sin. Now unlike other religions where you need to try your hardest to be a good person, it becomes easy for the true follower of Christ because sin loses it's appeal once you taste something a million times better(and yes sadly there are people who claim to be Christian but continue sinning intentionally, Christ warns against these people and these individuals will be worse off than even the ones who reject God). And only when free from sin can we experience true love, peace, and joy :)
Im sorry what? Your logic doens't add up at all and your excuse for god is even worse, like Quite bad actually. As you said there is something EXTREMELY messed up with the concept of eternal punishment for finite amount of damage you can do or "sin" but then you make some nonsense excuse that god doesn't perceive time that was so its ok for him to punish you for eternity? No that is RIDICULOUS. How is it that an all powerful god EVEN WHEN INTERACTING WITH US CAN ACKNOWLEDGE TIME AS A THING BUT SOMEHOW FAIL TO GRASP IT WHEN IT COMES TO PUNISHING US. This is just you making stuff up, you have no proof of this, but you're just going through your own mental gymnastics to justify the absurdity to the concept which still doesn't even remotely make sense or add up at all, it sounds like more made up human ideas. Also nothing you have said states that the religion you've chosen is the right one either. The fact that you say you were once an atheist frankly sounds like a blatant lie.
holy shit i listened to that guys music years ago and now im reminded of him through this, i hope he gets publicity he deserves now thanks for this comment
i really appreciate cliffe's beautiful view of religion. he cleary spends so much time, not only loving the lord but genuinely and actually THINKING about it logically instead of just following mindlessly. as an atheist i still appreciate this.
I was set up in a home invasion and shot in the back, and I died in the ambulance. When I died, it was nothing but darkness, honestly, that scared me because I didn't see any light. I think I was going to be a lost soul or something, since I had so much anger from being set up and shot and lived a bad life. Thank God I have a second chance to make things right, even though I'm paralyzed. 🙏♿️
God bless you bro! May you continue to live a life in the trajectory of growing closer and knowing more of the almighty God who’s always had his eyes on you and love you with an amazingly victorious plan over your life. I’m praying for you brother! Lots of love from Houston Texas!
@@Anonymous-sw5jx It feels like a second didn't pass, it was just nothing but darkness. I woke up couple days later and my parents that I hadn't seen in 3yrs after being homeless, was there in the room waiting for me to wake up, and that was confusing since they live couple states away from where I was shot at, so I have no clue how long I was under and how long it took to be resuscitated. It just said that I flatlined going to the hospital and they couldn't help me so they flew me to another hospital that was in another state
My teacher one's told me that hell is separation from God. He said "just imagine that someone is keeping a kid away from his mother that is just 20 meters away, the kid is watching his mother so he screams, fight, cry and beg to get to her but he can't so he suffers"
Luke 16:23-24 "In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire" If it's in total darkness how did he see? Revelations speaks of a "fairy lake of fire" burning with sulfer and brimstone (which is most likely lava) That is very descriptive Tossed out of the light is a metaphor, outside the light of God
Hell is worse because if a child cries it knows that mom will come and comfort me. However in hell you will know that no matter how much you cry out he will not come to you ..there is no hope and no love
Hell is earth if you look at gods description of hell it aligns perfectly with earth when you die if you go to hell you go back to earth if you go to heaven you go to Jesus
Honestly, these videos have really renewed alot of my faith. I was brought up by biblical literalists and hearing someone talk about how alot of the Bible is metaphorical really helps
Really helps you escape reality until you can't. You can run but can't hide. Face reality. And seek the face if God and his mercy in this acceptable time. When Judgement starts or after death, it will be too late.
I always believed hell is a place where you relive the worst part of your life on a loop. Never stopping, never getting used to the feeling, never able to change the outcome. Never to escape that had happened.
oh cool! So people who don't believe in your god deserve the torture you designed in your mind for them, great. If I live my life with compassion and without religion, can you really look me in the eye and say "yeah, time to relive your trauma"
This is hell, this world we are now. It’s also heaven. It is both. It is everything. You can find both heaven and hell here on earth, and in a never ending battle of good and evil, you should choose your side carefully.
God was merciful enough to show me hell. I dreamt I was in a pit the size of my body in a cave in the earth and I was cold and separated from all things good! No warmth , no love and no God! I could see a glimpse of where I used to work and I was trying to call out to people but they could not hear me and I was crying and calling out to God for what felt like years and years and after many many years Jesus answered me and every word he spoke to me cut through me like a double edged sword but was not accusatory. When I awoke from this dream I cried and now I beg daily for God to have mercy on me and give me the bravery to speak to everyday people so no one goes to hell. This hell will be tossed into the lake of fire!
I think you have a fear of being alone. I'm not very spiritual, but I think that dream was showing you how you'll feel soon if changes aren't made. Or maybe it was your hell, a place in your darkest nightmare.
I pray with you tonight that in Jesus’ name he will give you the strength, courage, wisdom and knowledge to continue to seek him out and heed his word. And not have to be living in hell and sin no longer, spreading the lords love and peace.🙏🏼
Honestly this really helps me. I had so much trouble understanding how a loving God could allow someone to burn in torment for eternity because they didnt believe in him. This actually makes sense to me
I remember a couple years when I overdosed, and was declared dead I felt as if I was falling I saw myself falling in third person as my body caught on fire visibly and it started to burn more and I would fall faster and eventually I woke up in the back of an ambulance Being Narcaned. God is good
I like the way he made me believe not in a "place" where I would spend my ethernity but rather a "condition" under I would spend my ethernity. Like the god giving up on you, completely. Like a parent. It's a really wholesome interpretation.
Spending eternity in isolation, pain, suffering and despair for finite “sins” you’ve committed during a finite life is super duper merciful. You can’t get any more merciful than that…😂 All that religion is, is a way of controlling gullible masses. It never served any other purpose. That whole story about “building a relationship with god” is exceptionally funny when you think about it. To build a relationship to god you need to go to church, confess to a priest, donate to the church and do whatever else you are obliged to do. When you build a relationship with your spouse, do you also air it out to strangers? Do you also go to a place of communion to talk about the relationship? Do you also need to donate to an organisation to have a good relationship? It’s the oldest grift there is
However in Luke 16 it talks about the rich man crying out to Abraham while the rich man is in hell already which shows that at least there’s not immediate annihilation. I had a pastor tell me one time that the Bible never states that people from heaven can watch or see people on earth but it does say people from hell can. Idk how true that is I didn’t really research it too much after
Is this just your interpretation or did you hear this somewhere else? I’m not saying you’re wrong, it’s just I’d like to know if this is your personal interpretation or if you heard this from a priest or pastor maybe.
Fire doesn't completely consume an object, there's still ash that remains. Fire only changes it...though in the context of the Bible I guess that's still not that great.
People say Christians use burning in hell to scare people into believing which is physical torture, when in actuality separation from God seems scarier.. Why? Because that means you'd be at the mercy and whims of who knows what. Physical pain is the lowest form of suffering. Depression, sadness , paranoia, psychological torture can be way worse. And to be separated from God means that God has removed his protection. Job didn't just suffer physically, his mind suffered and his heart also did greatly suffer.
@@uneducatedisnotstupidlol1504 Its actually just lying to a someone who’s running and telling them there is a cliff when you actually have no idea what’s ahead.
@@derekewing9669As a Derek. I feel your pain when people try to spell your name. Lol that aside. Is truth religion? And if Christianity IS religion, does the truth not draw us closer to our fundamental beliefs?
@@derekfuqua1254Many christians, such as myself, have come to realize that religion is not what saves you. You can go to church everyday, read your Bible every day, and pray every day and call yourself a Christian, but if you haven't accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior, you are not saved. Religion doesn't equal a relationship with God, which is the thing that saves you and ultimately changes you as a person. Religion has been used time and time again to hate and discriminate against certain groups of people, if you have a relationship with God, you can't do that. Jesus says he is the way, the truth, and the life. Religion isn't truth. Jesus is.
If you read most verses about hell, it talks about the destruction of your soul. Also, it says you will be taken out of the book of life. If there is no record of your life, then it's like you never existed. No one can realize you're not in heaven if they cannot remember you existed.
All that extra sht for what? Because someone didn't acknowledge the existence of an uncaring god who never deigned to make his wishes clear? Such a petty and vengeful deity if it exists deserves no worship
That reason right there is the reason I am hesitant to belive in God. I exesist in a world with too much nuance, I have too much understanding to think god would do such a thing. There is way to many different religions, far too many different interpretations, and too much fluff for me to truly belive. What does it truly mean to live life for God? Is church a requirement? What about donation to the church, is that a form of payment for your sins? I am a 19 year old young man, who's done very little, and tried very hard to succeed. My trails and tribulations are long, and my journey is one that I undertake alone. If God wants me to devote my time to his worship, he knows where I am. And I would have no issue worshiping him, but I will not worship an ideal.
God is not doing any evil, we people do. And you know that cuz there were times that you were bullying someone, or did something to hurt someone, you just don't want to take responsibility for your own mistake and you are blaming God instead. The same way you say well it wasn't a big deal that I hurt so and so, the same way are other people justifying their own mistake. And so here we are blaming God instead of repenting and trying to be light in the world
@@inquisitionagent9052 You are looking at it wrong. If I offer you a job, are you obligated to take it? No, you do not have to take the job. If you want the job, then you'll do what your boss tells you to do if you want to keep the job after you take it. It's not up to the boss to make you take the job or make you keep the job, those are up to you, not the boss.
I've seen hell...outter darkness is the simplest and yet most effective description one could manifest. Like being crammed into a small shell. No hot. No cold. Just numbness of feeling and thought. You are sentient. And although many join you in that darkness, you can't see them. Speak to them. Or sense them. It is truly a lonely experience. Void of all light and life. Forever. Praise be to the almighty God and His perfect son and our savior, Jesus Christ.
Wow ..reading the bible yourself is something that I always encourage people to do especially Christians because most Christians know the bible through tiktok and there there is a lot of people who teach for views
There’s a man named Bill Weise and he fell asleep one night and woke up in a place that describes as hell. He was in a chamber of some sort and it was hot and dark. Long story short his spirit was tortured by multiple 9 ft talk beasts that tore his flesh and he was being burned also. Then, as he described, He was physically pulled out of that pit into heaven and he saw Jesus. He said that Jesus explained to him that no, he had not died, but Jesus chose to put him through that experience not because he was a bad person but because he needed someone to tell the world how serious hell is. Eternal separation from God isn’t a place a wanna be. That story was one of many reasons why I follow God
But that’s just a dream though thst you yourself didn’t personally experience and was shared by word and mouth? I watched Child’s Play the other day and had a dream that night about Chucky chasing me around trying to stab me. Didn’t exactly instill the belief that Chucky is real to me or the people I told the dream to
I’d argue it matters because it can give lukewarm Christian’s a fire under their butt to get closer to God! Also it can help show that what Jesus said throughout the Bible, some was figure of speech like Cliffe says, and other parts literal. I agree we don’t want to the there but I think it’s important to have deeper conversations about the after life, and explain why we don’t want to be in Hell
@@lukemoone4702sounds like you think christianity is the only way to god? Wrong, God knew nobody was perfect thats why he wouldn’t care about your beliefs as long as they aren’t false
@@_GetmoneyGriffSorry but that’s not what Jesus said at all He said “I am the way the truth and the life nobody comes to the Father except through me.” So either we believe you.. or we trust Jesus. I don’t even think you would trust you over Christ.
And Hell is thrown in it and Eternity for Hell means for an age or time period. And Jesus says the lost souls in Hell perish. Gone. If Lake of fire is eternal for humans in it then Jesus would not say they perish.
@@Wisdomlies Revelation 14:9-11 anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.
@@RR-ue4im Anyways, since we know that Jesus tells us the lost souls have an end and the Hebrew there uses the word Aions, which highlights perishing, gone, an end, a final rest or end in the context, its most likely the Lake of fire, will possibly destroy the human souls in the lake of fire. For Satan and his demons and fallen angels, we also know the lake of fire is eternal. And considering Hell has an end, the real focus should be understanding the true purpose of the lake of fire and the final fate of the lost souls.
@@WisdomliesYou shouldn't be reading scripture in a bias set of mindset much less in the way you perceive. You need to repent and place your faith In Jesus Christ alone to receive the Holy Spirit and understand in His lenses. *And these will go away into eternal punishment,* but the righteous into eternal life.” - Matthew 25:46. Notice how it says eternal punishment?
"That's merciful." To be truly and completely GONE sounds absolutely terrifying. Gone how? I'd rather not try to figure that out. Thank Jesus I have HIm!
The statement "I am the light of the world" is like a biblical nod to God's command, "Let there be light." This suggests that Jesus is symbolically introduced into the creation story. It's important to understand that this introduction doesn't mean Jesus was created but highlights his crucial role in the world's beginning. Theologically, it emphasizes that everything was made through Jesus and for him.
or it simlply means that God created light for us to see aka the sun... this is something i hate, the divison of the words in the bible.. Dont make up theories for no reason dude. when God made light for us to see it didnt mean he was also talking about Jesus, read the gospels as is dont add to them, Jesus was already there since the begining of **Time** not of light. Focus on the word and following his commands and not theories
Revelation 20:10 - And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
@@trapmomlaydi9242Seems you only read bible quotations and never read a whole chapter. Because in the same chapter it says all the people whose names were not in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
I prayed to God that I would hear His voice and those words would be the sweetest words I would ever hear in my entire life. One day while I was living in sin. I had a dream. It was just a dream but I could feel the pain. I was in a room that was so dark that I couldn't see even a little light. Then, two men approached me. The other one grabbed my wrist. And I cried and fell to my knees in so much pain that the part he touched seemed to burn to the core of my bones. He touched me in different parts of my body. I was crying while screaming in pain, I kept saying "Have mercy on me, open the door, have mercy on me, I won't do it again." I shouted these words over and over again. I heard a voice, "It's too late" He said. I was stunned by what I heard. Until then I realized that the one who was hurting me was gone and I was free from the chain, then I ran to the door to open it. After opening the door, it got light and then I woke up. that is why I believe the fire in hell does not create light
In my lore for a whole franchise I'm working on, all of reality is a mess of strands of energy that bind souls to beings. When a particularly powerful being dies, their 'tether' for their soul basically becomes a god and the 'catalyst' of their sould receeds into nonexistence. Nonexistence is an inky blackness that unmakes whatever touches it and 'reality's mascot' is basically like God and Senaeschal from Dragons Dogma. They give reality a form, and offer counterweight to the natural state of chaos that is reality.
Non existence is one of the scariest thoughts ever, though it seems more merciful than literally burning in actual fire, but to not exist, like there is no you. No consciousness, no thoughts, nothing.
It sounds like it until you think about how the events preceding total annihilation. If someone is going to be annihilated they will know there is an eternal paradise without pain and sorrow. They will know they can never and will never be there and that they did not walk the narrow path - - it's going to be a lot to deal with before said annihilation...so yea not as merciful as one would think. I can't remember the bible very well, but I remember that there's something in there that the armies of the world will try to enter/invade the kindom of new Jerusalem or something to that affect (I'm highly paraphrasing). Sounds to me that everyone will realize and see that that's a possible second chance and don't want the "mercy" of annihilation.
@@brutuslugo3969 a lot of things aren't scary, until we're face to face with them. Being aware of self (existing), then going through the process of knowing oneself could have existed for forever in paradise...but fell short, then trying to rationalize that one will be annihilated and not exist when one could have is most certainly scary. Some people are not scared of death because they either do not believe in an afterlife, believe they will be in heaven/paradise, or do not dwell on it. It's not so scary right now, but imagine if someone was in that predicament. Before the coming of Christ knowing they were dying, finally losing consciousness in said death (if they were aware, if not the next part would be absolutely terrifying) to then opening their eyes to the aforementioned situation; yea it'd be extremely scary.
@@brutuslugo3969you got a point but, the thought of us existed, so perhaps our souls were always in deep sleep until we were born. Meaning God has already had our personal self prepared till that point.
It’s a feeling. The burning feeling comes from living separate from God. God loves you no matter what but you’re the one who chooses what kind of relationship you will have. So the burning feeling comes from hating someone who loves you unconditionally.
For those who don’t know… the teachings of Jesus Christ were originally transcribed as metaphors, parables, and analogies etc. so that Romans couldn’t persecute the followers of early Christian faith as heretics against the accepted polytheistic beliefs of the empire at that time. The physical Bible was written under the council of Nicaea, overseen by emperor Constantine I (the first) of the Byzantine empire, which formed shortly subsequent to the collapse of the greater Roman Empire. Stoicism and Christianity share similar origins and it is quite disheartening to see that they have gone down separate paths in modern day. Organized religion is the downfall of Christianity… early Christians were the original renegades, and were persecuted like traitorous dogs .
New Testament emphasizes the purpose of the Church, especially its replacement of the nation of Israel. It is also needed to pursue ritual and engage in the Holy Sacraments. The error wasn't organization. It was intellectuality overshadowing spirituality.
Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved” (Acts 16:31). God has already done all of the work. All you must do is receive, in faith, the salvation God offers (Ephesians 2:8-9). Fully trust in Jesus alone as the payment for your sins. Believe in Him, and you will not perish (John 3:16). God is offering you salvation as a gift. All you have to do is accept it. Jesus is the way of salvation (John 14:6). The word Ekklisía(assembly) which was translated to “church” is only mentioned in the gospel of Matthew twice. Assembly and church are two different things. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church. Matthew 16:18 (King James version) Peter=Boulder/Rock in Greek “You are Rocky and upon this rock I will house-build my-gathering (of the God of Israel).” Matthew 16:18( More likely accurate translation)
Do you guys want to know what else the Bible says. Deuteronomy 22:28-29 “28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and r@pes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.” Basically saying a woman has to marry her rap1st and they cannot divorce. ppl are trying to say this verse is poorly translated but that is not true because the NIV Bible is the only Bible where it is has been thoroughly studied by Christian scholars to give u the best translation that isn’t corruption and word play .
Broooo I literally was gonna kill my self 7 years ago and I’ll never forget this. I was about to pull the trigger on a loaded revolver pointed to my temple and I paused because it’s like I entered a black void the closest thing to is like outer space and it was dead silent and I was so scared and alone. This moment only lasted a second but it was so vivid and I snapped back to reality and put the gun down started crying and was so scared I knew I wouldn’t never kill my self after seeing this. Watching this video just opened my eyes to the possibility that that was Hell
Do you guys want to know what else the Bible says. Deuteronomy 22:28-29 “28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and r@pes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.” Basically saying a woman has to marry her rap1st and they cannot divorce. ppl are trying to say this verse is poorly translated but that is not true because the NIV Bible is the only Bible where it is has been thoroughly studied by Christian scholars to give u the best translation that isn’t corruption and word play .
I heard one Christian say they had a dream about going downstairs. They saw Jesus, who was walking next to them. And with each step, the guy was losing his breath and could barely breathe. He turned to Jesus and told him "This is horrible"! And Jesus told him "Now imagine if I wasn't here with you". And he woke up.
I would argue, however, that Hell is described as fire and brimstone, and brimstone (sulfur) does not burn bright red, but rather a much less bright blue colour. So it could be possible to have _literal_ fire and darkness simultaneosly in a literal physical Hell (I don't necessarily believe that, I'm merely playing devil's advocate, for lack of a better term.)
““The rich man shouted, ‘Father Abraham, have some pity! Send Lazarus over here to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue. I am in anguish in these flames.’” Luke 16:24 NLT Sounds like fire to me
Well, I've never heard of anyone in anguish asking for water to cool of tongue while burning in fire. Nor talking and thinking about other people while his body was aflame. It looks like the rich man was weeping in remorse.
The point isn't that hell is a fiery place The point is that the man in this life was "satisfied" with everything he had... With his "abundance" of food/drink Yet in the next life he was begging for JUST A DROP OF WATER to be satisfied ... Yet he found nothing to quench his thirst Hell is a place where one is never quenched Whether it's LUST... RESENTMENT/HATRED... JEALOUSY... COVETOUSNESS ^ the end of these is not peace but a longing NEVER SATISFIED
I’ve always thought the burning or fire was a way of describing the feeling of the most infinitely intense regret, fear, loneliness, anxiety and sorrow. that you will experience when you’re alone. In the darkness of the pitch black pit of hell. It’s a way of describing what separation from God feels like and not that there will be physical fire. Therefore describing it as fire is a metaphor.
People try to understand spiritual texts and the bible TOO physically. I believe hell is a state of mind similar to what you say although it isnt as simple as we can explain
Its hard to say what awaits on the other side. Once you die, your body will rot. All of your organs which once gave you life, will rot, including your brain. Therefore heaven and hell are incomprehensible. However I do believe what ever awaits us on the next side will be better, I think of it as a fetus in the womb. It is alive, but knows nothing of the world which it will be born into. If a baby in the womb doesn’t develop properly it could be born blind, missing a limb, deaf, etc, all of which will heavily impact its life. We must develop spiritually in order to be prepared for the world to come.
@@childpeanut5095Luke 16:23-24 "In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire" If it's in total darkness how did he see? Revelations speaks of a "fairy lake of fire" burning with sulfer and brimstone (which is most likely lava) That is very descriptive Tossed out of the light is a metaphor, outside the light of God
Luke 16:23-24 "In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire" If it's in total darkness how did he see? Revelations speaks of a "fairy lake of fire" burning with sulfer and brimstone (which is most likely lava) That is very descriptive Tossed out of the light is a metaphor, outside the light of God
i never really understood when preachers talk but this guy made that very crystal clear for ppl like me that doesn’t understand the bible n things like that how they are taught
Hell is for those who haven’t accepted Jesus as their Lord and savior. Jesus is the way the truth and the life and no one goes to the father (God the father) except through him(John 14:6). He lived the perfect life and had no sin but out of love he still choose to die on the cross for our sin. Everyone has sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. And God is holy and righteousness and no one with sin can be in his presence and because God is righteous he judges those who have sinned against him. This is why we need Jesus and by accepting Jesus as Lord his sacrifice and blood give us atonement for our sins so that they can be forgiven and be reconnected with God and allowed into heaven. Hell is facing Gods wrath (the lake of fire) and haveing eternal separation from him and heaven is for those who believe in Jesus and accept him as Lord for the forgiveness of sins so that they can be reconciled and in heaven with God for eternity. You can either put your faith in Jesus and accept him as Lord and savior or die in your sins without forgiveness and go to hell. It is either one or the other. I pray that you will come to know Jesus and ask him into your heart and receive the holy spirit and the forgiveness of sins and grace if you haven’t already.
@@gavinhansen3311 ok I love that your dedicated my brother in Christ I have accepted him into my heart and accepted that Jesus died on the cross for our sins but bro, tldr
Luke 16:23-24 "In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire" If it's in total darkness how did he see? Revelations speaks of a "fairy lake of fire" burning with sulfer and brimstone (which is most likely lava) That is very descriptive Tossed out of the light is a metaphor, outside the light of God
@@gunasaulite22 Lazarus wansnt in heaven he was ina place called Abraham’s bosum this is the place saved people went before Christ died on the cross. They couldn’t go to heaven the OT saints cause God says Hebrews 10:4-10 kjv
Well why would u want it to be literal? It’s the most scary thought to think an all loving God would send u to burn forever even if u reject him it’s seems a bit much…I tend to take the annihilationism theology of hell, it just seems more just and less brutal of a punishment to me.
@galaaxcy you think this way because this is what you prefer it to be? You are aware that as someone who has done exorcism before, demons believe and shutter much more on the belief of hell than you do. Read the Bible correctly, Jesus also explains it metaphorically as the branches that don't abide in Him will be *casted into eternal fire* and much more. Hell was more spoken than Heaven.
@jesuslovesyou6625 I'm Muslim. Hell is a literal blazing fire. The prophet muhammad upon whom be peace taught his disciples that the fire of hell is 70 times hotter than the fire of this life. "70" in the qur'an is usually used to mean "many" instead of just 70. Upon hearing this, the disciples said basically "oh prophet, the fire of this life would have been hot enough", and the prophet said but it was 70 times hotter. And the prophet taught that the dwellers of hell will say that if the fire of hell were only as hot as the fire of this life, they would be able to get some sleep! And Allah mentioned in chapter 67 of the qur'an: Verse 7-8 "When they are thrown into it, they hear from it a [dreadful] inhaling while it boils up." "It almost bursts with rage. Every time a company is thrown into it, its keepers ask them, "Did there not come to you a warner?"" And before the inhabitants of hell are thrown into it, just a tiny breeze of the heat of the fire of hell will cause those destined for it to say that there must be a mistake, this punishment is far too great. And the paradise has been forbidden to those who associate partners with God. Jesus his messenger! Jesus worshipped God did he not? Then why are u deluded?
Darkness often refers to evil. My interpretation is that souls going to Hell are reincarnated on Earth to try again Those who follow Jesus become one with God
The rug looked better before the last clean on a side note, blue was better, but this was also a very great way for me to imagine how the Bible explains God’s ways and teachings
It’s clean hell is eternal fire ! Revelation 21:8 - But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
@@IlliniWestNumber1that’s talking about anyone who does evil deeds. Is sin not evil deeds. Now if you’re someone GOD knows from having a relationship with him then your saved from it. But it’s not selective evil, ALL EVIL will be cast there based off of the Judgement of GOD
@@2Ksensiethere is no difference between evil and sin. Man can not be the judge of what is good and evil. Man is born in sin. And by this logic, everyone in the entire world would be in that lake. And everything has a relationship with GOD if all is created by him. So, Is it by belief alone that keeps Christians alone out of this lake?
Hell is a state of being during and after life. Your life can be terrible because of your own decisions, and then, after death, you can be remembered as a terrible person because of your own decisions.
You know everytime someone recites thing from the Bible to me I already know these things, god must be with me and guiding me already and I appreciate it so much ❤ Jesus is king ❤ God is king ❤
You find it pleasant but you don’t realize how it saps your attention span away bit by bit. A good few more of these and you can’t watch a lecture or a read a book without having to scroll on your phone desperately looking for a rug cleaning video or subway surfers gameplay to play.
@@user-ml2lx5li5e but maybe the rug cleaning is really just a metaphor for life.. if the rug you walk on is dirty then how can you walk with a clean mind and heart. No but fr im just joking, i didnt care about the rug on the bottom of the screen i was just trying to be funny bro- its all love
Be very careful Sir, that your intellect doesn't cause you great pain. The bible says it's a place where the fire is never quenched and the worm never dies.
Soul and spirit is eternal. Our first death occurs in the body. The 2nd death in annihilation of body, soul spirit. That's why Jesus came to give us eternal life and save us from the 2nd death
@@christinagreene7021 I don’t think God is going to let Satan off by just destroying him. It is eternal separation from God. If you’re gone you’re just gone. You’re not eternally separated from anything. That’s no punishment, that is mercy. Do you think God will be merciful to satan?
Hell is the absolute removal from God’s creation. Truly TERRIFYING.
Sooo…. Death?
No he'll is sensible eternal hellfire and brimstone. "And the smoke of their torment ascended up forever and ever. This guy is a heretic for this
That’s scary but not as scary if ik I’m gonna get too see myself die and fade away and cease to be conscious
@@mtgoat179 Well that's what's going to happen. At least until we figure out how to bring everyone back.
If god created consciousness then it would be a removal of consciousness and if it’s a removal of consciousness then I wouldn’t be able to perceive it so then it wouldn’t be terrifying at all
“I am the door” no, I am not clinically two pieces of plywood slats together. 😂😂😂😂😂
I just know Jesus had to clarify this MULTIPLE times 🤣🤣🤣
I hate when people do that lol they pretend like everything in the Bible is literal when Jesus spoke on metaphors 90% of the time and criticized people who didn't look deeper to understand.
He was a carpenter so 🤷
😂😂
Probably just means you will stop existing
"That's merciful"
God is a merciful God
Edit: Ok, let me explain what I meant. God is an Immortal, all-powerful, all-seeing, and all-knowing God, he was here before time began, and he'll stay here even after the end of time. He did not create Hell for us, he made it for the Devil and the Demons, and he does not wish for anyone to go to Hell. It's why he sent his son Jesus to die on the cross. It's our decision to not choose God, and not to believe in Jesus that sends us to hell. Again, God does not wish for anyone to go to hell.
Mercy. so I’ll just get rid of you. Kinda Stockholm’s syndrome
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Not really, you have thousands and millions of chances throughout your life to choose to follow God. God reaches out to you every single day, he's trying to reach your soul every second of every day. If you choose to ignore and reject God, then you have no reason to be mad at God when he rejects you.
I don't think it's necessarily wrong nor trying to argue against god in terms of sending people to heaven or hell, but I do believe that showing mercy doesn't mean to forgive, but to relieve consequence of something. And so the second he chooses that people must go to hell, he's no longer being merciful. And so at least it makes no sense to me that people call him merciful when, for at least the Christian religion from what I know, is built upon a god creating a consequence for every action he sees as immoral or "sinful" and so is about as far from merciful as you can get@RRagan
@reecemorley8860 he is merciful while your alive. You can ask him for forgiveness at any point in your life. Then second you put your faith in christ, you are saved.
But God is the God of the living, not the dead. The second you die, you lose your chance to turn to God. So if you die and you rejected God, then there is nothing Jesus can do for you. He is the way, the light.
People think that they have to live a good life, but there are no good people in God eyes. There are 2 types of people, there are unsaved sinners, and saved sinners (Christians)
Christians are going to heaven because of their faith, not their works. And unsaved sinners end up in hell because of THEIR choice to reject God. God does not send people to hell, people simply send themselves to hell.
It is your choice where you want to go and spend eternity.
If you want to have a more in depth conversation where I can explain this better, message me on Instagram @Benjamin.bornagain.
I encourage you or anyone who wants to know the truth to do so. I promise it will be the best decision you ever make, and it will change your life.
@@RRagan thanks man, surprisingly made good sense, best of luck
So we're going to ignore the Rich man that Jesus described that was suffering in Hell to the point where he was begging for a single drop of water to ease his pain.
Thank you
Still a metaphor and likely a parable. Because clearly heaven and hell do not meet if hell is separation from God. So how is Lazarus able to speak to the rich man?
And notice that the rich man said I am in agony in this fire, yet does not ask to be removed from the fire but asked for water to cool his “tongue”. There is so much more to this story than believing literally that hell is fire.
Also it’s interesting that the rich man NEVER asked to be removed from hell. He asked for water because he wanted to be in Hell, he chose hell, he just didn’t like the unfortunate circumstance of hell. While he asked that his family be warned not to come to this “place of torment”, he himself didn’t plead to leave.
It’s the unfortunate circumstance of a mind away from God. A mind burdened and slaved to sin.
I’m Muslim and the Quran has never been changed and still remains the same religious scripture since it’s creation and so I am not familiar with most these issues like the translation being lost in time due to thousands of alterations/variations of the religious books like the Bible being made. But look he was saying in the video it could be metaphorical since the Quran sometimes does use metaphors I get that part and it could mean something other then tangible (burning/fire) and needing actual (water/liquids) and could be any kind of suffering like going through death non stop like idk getting shot to death then right after getting stabbed then right after having lava poured on u then the next for all eternity and the single drop of water could be a second of salvation from that wether it be a pause before having to return to that never ending cycle or it could be more mental were u witness your loved ones being tortured and u wish them a second of peace aka single drop a water or your in an empty void for eternity and have gone past crazy from boredom after just a few hours and wish for a single drop a entertainment aka water and any other type of variations of suffering and form of “water” that could ease that suffering if even jus a single drop or second I hope that helps and makes it a little easier to put in perspective since none of us truly know what hell is like it’s just about how it’s interpreted
I mean to be fair, Jesus described His separation from God prior to being crucified similarly. So I don’t think what you’re saying and what he’s dating are two mutually exclusive things.
I mean to be fair, Jesus described His separation from God prior to being crucified similarly. So I don’t think what you’re saying and what he’s dating are two mutually exclusive things.
That rug cleaning had me hypnotized
No what do is you go to the abysse then your born again and forgot you sinned to try again
I don't just throw you in place for eternity I hive purgatory aka the abysse and your born again for the sins you committed on child of God may enter
Litterly what it is it's darkness your soul feel like it's on fire and your born again
@@Mocking_Messiahfr kinda cringe plus no one asked plus your white
Maybe that’s the idea
I was raised atheist, am self proclaimed agnostic now. Usually when I hear preachers talk, it’s extremely easy to dismiss their rhetoric and only take away the moral goodness that they talk about. However, this man talks about Christianity in a way I’ve never heard it talked about before. I’m very intrigued, and while I may not believe in Christianity as it is commonly presented, I am not opposed to the idea of an afterlife and the stories of the bible were ultimately founded on some level of truth, likely lost through translation and analogy.
Right on! 👍
Awesome dude! Check out Michael Heiser and Tim mackie, they are some cool starting points to help unpack stuff in a de-americanized way, aiming to understand books of the Bible how the ancient authors would have intended. Sadly a lot of junk can get mixed in with the gospel sometimes, but don’t mistake the words of flawed sinners (like me) for Jesus! I guarantee you he’s much better ;)
Please watch Jordan petersons biblical lecture it will change your life.
Please do not watch Peterson and actually follow your own heart.
this is my biggest problem as a Christian. I'm aware that there are A LOT of bad ppl that uses the religion as an excuse for their actions or just lie, hypocritical, and screw the words into their own meaning. unfortunately, its hard to find preachers that objectively speak about the bible and can make it easy to comprehend
I’m not religious and yet i love listening to this guy talk. He’s not some fanatic he speaks clear and calm and its just great to listen to
He makes me think that conflict resolution is possible for all people.
You don’t have to be religious. Accept Jesus Christ into your heart and you will be saved (Romans 10:9-10). Your relationship with the Holy Spirit is founded on God’s Word and is not a set of rituals that you must follow. Religious actions don’t save you. A relationship with Jesus Christ does. Also, be careful you are not putting this CZcamsr on a pedestal. For it is written in 1 Corinthians 3:4, “For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not mere human beings?”
@@LukeFourPlayerChess its just that i find myself unable to believe that god exists. Personally i’ve not had any experiences that alot of people that do believe in him have. Though who knows that might chance as time goes on
God's not religious either
@@SCar86MALE wdym he isn't?
A place devoid of God including His attributes and fruits. That is a place without light, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, forgiveness etc.
It is not a place although it can manifest as a very negative situation and place on earth like prison. There is always a way out.
My cousin told me about a dream he had where it was nothing but blackness, like if you dove into a TV screen while it’s off, but even darker. He said he could talk or tell or anything, there was absolutely no sound. He also mentioned a weird feeling, like being totally hopeless and alone, he could only described it as “I was in a place where God wasn’t looking, like he had turned his back to me.”
We call that blinking my guy
I lowkey had the same dream
That's my depression.
I actually died and its nothing but pure darkness
God loves all of us🙏✝️❤️
Dante really wrote the most influential fanfic of all time and we’re all suffering for it now
real
I assume ur talking about the book from like 1100 about 9 layers of hell and if so how bc that book not many truly know about as a global population as well as he took stuff from the Bible to influence that disgrace of a book
@@DevinDeason"Heh. Nice argument. Unfortunately I wrote a book in which I'm the Chad, and you burn in Hell."
Paradise Lost did just as much damage....
The Devine Comedy, Dantes inferno, was ment to make fun of the religious tyrants. Great book...
When Jesus said "I am the light", he is more than a 100-watt bulb, LITERALLY. because he is "as bright as the midday sun" that made John fell down like a dead man, LITERALLY.
When Jesus said "thrown into fiery furnace, where they will cry and gnash their teeth" that was literal.
If what you meant by 'destroyed' is to 'vanish', then you are making it look like going to heaven is optional. Optional whether you want to live the best eternal life in heaven, or the best temporary life on earth. Well I guess this is what they say, "you can't have the best of both worlds". Biblically, "you can't serve two masters at a time"
God's mercy is available now. Grab it while you can. This is the chance, this is the time, because there is no more chance once you die. God would sacrifice his only begotten son for us to be saved because he knows how terrible it will be to go to hell. If bad people will just vanish, then it is not worth it for God to die on the cross, and there will be no enough reason for a sinner to give up their wicked ways.
This pastor talks well and defends the bible well. I like hearing his conversations with other people, and I've learned a lot from him, but saying this is a big mistake.
You guys, read your own bible and have a relationship with God for you to be able to discern what's good, and what's bad. What's for him, and what's against him.
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Thank you
Amen, God bless you 🙏🏽
Couldn’t have said it any better! Amen!
Bible also says ever lasting life and ever punishment.
When I was younger, I had to have multiple surgeries all bc I had an appendectomy gone wrong. I was very close to death. During one of those surgeries, I apparently started to drift away. I don't remember exactly what happened, but I remember a little still to this day, and people there told me what I was speaking to them about during the procedure. I was telling them that it was so dark and cold, I knew there was someone in the dark with me, but I couldn't see them in the beginning. Then, all of a sudden, I saw flames light the dark, and it wasn't as cold. My cousin passed away a few years before this (he was my best friend), and he was with me crying and apologizing, asking for me to forgive him and for my family to forgive him. He told me to get out of there. After a moment, there was this incredible bright white light, and I went from being consumed by anxiety to being calm...the monitors apparently were going crazy and then calmed down. I remember seeing the beautiful light and red rose petals falling. The doctors started laughing when I said, "My papaw said he is going to whip your ass if you hurt me." My mother said they thought I was relaying a message from a living relative. I wanted to stay there with him. Once my mom let them know who my papaw was and that he was passed, they decided to wrap up the procedure as fast and as safe as they could so they could wake me up.
This clip and the talk about hell brings this to my mind. Hell was dark, cold, lonely, but there was fire. I was in the 7th/8th grade when this all happened. I'm 36 now, and I still remember what I saw. If it wasn't for my mom, I would not remember what I was speaking of.
I believe you. Hope you have received Jesus
Wow that’s really scary bro I hope you have turned to Jesus christ
I have been close to him since I was a little one. I've stumbled from time to time,but I always get right back on track.
If hell is absent from God then many people are living in hell as we speak. I agree 100% with cliff.
Yeah, but here they still have mercy of God, He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. And I don't know if that will be a case after death.
Don’t try to figure it out. Your time is ticking go have fun and if u end up in hell atleast u had fun
Name of the song?
Satisfying and joyful? Damn, hell must be nice.
Very much so, the men fighting in wars right now probably feel like they’re in hell.
About 4 years ago i overdosed on heroin laced with fentanyl.. while I was unconscious I could still feel my body. When i "opened" my eyes it was nothing but black. I could still feel my body though i couldnt see it. I was alone "floating in nothingness but i know for a fact i wasnt alone. There was a light, a warm sensation and i could feel so peaceful. I woke up 36 minutes later in the hospital after 2 shots of narcan and defibrillators on me. There was 8 doctors standing around me in complete shock one of them saying oh my god i cant believe he's alive. My body was already shutting down and i couldnt feel my legs. I started shaking and convulsing soon after. To this day the only reason im alive is because god has a plan for me i havent yet achieved. His grace and compassion led to my friend carrying my body through the house and into the car then to the hospital. The doctors there are also part of gods plan for not giving up and saving someone they dont even know
If it was all God's plan, was the overdosing also part of God's plan? Including creating fentanyl to start with?
I believe that God works in mysterious ways. And I think me over dosing was a slap in the face for me to realize what I was throwing away. And he created everything, all good things and all bad things. And he gives us the choice and freedom to decide whether or not to live a holy life or a sinful life.
@@ridgesailthat's what agency means. If God was going to do everything for us, what's the point in being alive. It's hard, but that was always the point. Everything eventually points back to God and somewhere in everyone, I believe we can all know it
@@squishybeetle4134glad you’re good now
@@ridgesailwe have free will here chill edgelord
He is a good father, he won't force anyone to be with Him for eternity.
"The smoke of their torment rises forever and ever." Sounds like a burning place to me, and not annihilation.
Agreed
Revelation 14:11 only refers to smoke of torment rising forever, not the actual torment. Assuming it's not just a metaphor or assuming it's not referring to a moment other than the final punishment, the fire's evidence via smoke will never fade, but that doesn't mean the people burnt up will remain alive forever, especially if they are unsaved without access to the tree of life in the heavenly city / the incorruptible bodies granted by victory in Jesus Christ.
The fire of God always consumes people. Never preserves them. The fire was made for the devil and his angels. Humans are destroyed there, not persevered. Cremated.
Jesus (and the apostles and the Psalmist) can all state very clearly God will destroy the lost (annihilationism) in hell.
The Bible teaches the lost will stand before God and then suffer proportionally for their sins in hell and then be annihilated (John 3.16 = perish, be destroyed).
That is the punishment. Death, destroyed, etc. And how long will this destruction last?
Forever, it is eternal punishment.
destroy both soul and body in hell."
James 4:12-"There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy..."
Matthew 7:13-14-"Broad the road that leads to destruction..."
2 Thessalonians 1:9-"Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction"
Philippians 3:19-"Whose end is destruction"
Galatians 6:8-"...from that nature will reap destruction..."
Psalm 92:7-"...it is that they (i.e. all evil doers) shall be destroyed forever"
It is clear, the lost will be destroyed in hell, not preserved in hell.
You have to redefine destroyed into meaning preserved.
@@Bryson5100 You've changed the meaning of several things. How do you explain Mark 9:48?
@@Angel-vb5ot Look at the passage that Jesus is quoting, Isaiah 66:24. There are corpses in the Valley of Hinnom (or Gehenna in Greek), and it is their worm (the maggots eating the bodies) that does not die.
@@Bryson5100 Jesus used the name to references hell, where the worm never dies and the fire is not quenched. He frequently referenced earthly things to explain spiritual truths, or do you believe He was saying the worms and the fire in a garbage dump, on earth, literally never die?
Imagine fire without no light… God is light and hell won’t have any. It’s going to be bad!
certain types of fuel can burn invisible.
im not chemist but there are many colors of fire. IF you wanna try to be literal
natural gas burns blue
coal or wood has orange and yellows to them
fireworks can burn wacky colors like green, blue, red, white, and so on
the only reason invisible fire is perceptible is cuz of how it makes the air wavy.
like a dessert mirage, a black top parking lot, or the hood of a car in summer.
again, i know there is a substance that can burn a fire with no color. which would mean A LOTTA HEAT but no light being given off.
I will enjoy every second in hell, or not because your skydaddy isnt real. Even if he was i still might get into heaven because you lot cant make up your mind on what you actually need to do to get into heaven, most branches of christianity dont even believe in hell, catholics do.
@@SatanMcLovinmay you find peace brother.
@@naturalgamerjk606 Oh i am at peace.
@@SatanMcLovin you expect us to believe that your resentment and anger towards Christianity points to you being at peace? it does quite the opposite actually. Enjoy life, have fun, love others, and remember every single person on this Earth is your family.
Some advice for both Christians and non Christians Read the Proverbs. There are 31 chapters so you could do one a day for a month if you like. It is based mostly on knowledge, wisdom and how to be a good person
Who translated the Bible though and how many times? This Bible we have now is a corruption
Some advice for both, don't push a man made book as if it was holy.
Thank you I'll start reading it right now.
@@Atlas_high-gaming you should read it. Maybe you’ll be a little less condescending. Whether or not you read the bible for religious purposes is up to you. But the bible is a historical book. A record Of history and our ancestors. Proverbs is a great suggestion to start. I urge everyone to Give it a try.
@@agnesmarie oh I have, when I was 14 I thought I should at least learn the book to hate it better and after 30 mins and 50ish pages I gave it up because the entire first bit is just "god is good, earth is good bc god made it" and it rearranged those words for 3 paragraphs like a kid trying to make the word count on their paper.
The Bible is as historical a book as the illiad, both books from history about our world but with no basis in reality.
You claim to want a record of history and our ancestors but instead read the 60AD equivalent of Harry Potter, the magic baby who will defeat the great evil! Go read some accounts from some actual historians, they may be bias but at least we realize that.
I always thought Hell was the void, darkness, nothing and when you are sentenced to it, you’re absorbed into it, you slowly lose yourself, becoming nothing but darkness and despair.
Honestly. I feel like the cold hell is just a perfect representation of this. Its cold, EXSTREAMLY COLD.
Knowing you will die and never have a chance to come back and be forgotten is the biggest scare of a human.
Buddy that’s called dying it happens to literally everyone and everything around us why be scared of what’s natural
Being dead and forgotten is fine by me. Least i wont have radicalized freaks killing each other in my name.
It’s not so much the be forgotten part for me. I could care less tbh. It’s the possible destinations that terrify me. On the flip side. When I’m walking with the Lord. I’m at complete peace. And physical death would be the best thing that could ever happen to me. I mean this with every fiber of my body.
@@soupsandwich. I don’t believe in hell. Its Makes it seem like there is a partnership going on and God plans on destroying the devil in the end times. The lake of fire in my opinion is like lava. It consumes you and burns you to ash leaving nothing left of you.
So yes there are 2 destinations, heaven or eternal death, never to be seen again
@@JuanCarlos-zi5hy what do you mean a partnership? And yes the dragon will be thrown into the lake in the end. his days are numbered. And there is a hell. Hell is separation from God. And some of the descriptions in scriptures tells us that it’s like a blazing furnace- Mathew 13:50
It’s darkness-Mathew 22:13, 2 Peter 2:17
Separation- Mathew 7:23
And there is a lake of fire. - Revelation 20:14, Mathew 25:41, revelation 20:10
But I believe hell it self is not the lake of fire but will be thrown into the lake at the end.
"For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment”- 2 Peter 2:4
So they are sent to hell and are in chains till judgment when they will be thrown into the lake. We read this in revelation 20:10
Hell is a very real real place. Don’t let the devil deceive you bro. How can we avoid something that we believe does not exist? He knows his time coming so he’s trying to take us with him.
"Weeping and gnashing of teeth"
" lake of fire and brimstone "
Sound pretty descriptive of fire.
thank you.i like cliffe but he is wrong on this claim
The weeping and gnashing of teeth doesn’t take place in the lake of fire. It’s at the judgement. “In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God but you yourselves cast out.”
Luke 13:28
The lake of fire is the second death in John’s vision.
Gehenna is where Jesus said both body and soul are destroyed.
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This is true, I was generally summarising.
I'm a Muslim, and i want to ask you Christians a question. So what is it? Do you Christians believe in a literal hellfire or not? And why the confusion and difference of opinion?
Sounds like a star exploding into dust
So interesting that he just described the latterday saint conception of hell.
I was an atheist for many years and the issue of hell always turned me away from Christianity. I used to wonder why can't God just not send us to hell? But if God were to just leave us alone and not punish us for our immoral deeds he would be a bad judge even by the standards of a court on earth. If I knew my neighbor raped and murdered someone, ignoring it and not calling the police would make me guilty as well. So God cant just leave us alone to keep on sinning as he is perfect and cannot tolerate imperfection. I also used to think that eternal punishment for finite sin was unjust but because God is infinite and not limited by the constraints of time(which he created) to Him our sins are happening over and over every second. Doesn't matter if you murdered someone yesterday or 80 years ago, it's still just as bad. Also because we are created in God's image, our souls are eternal(the Bible doesn't explicitly say anything about annihilation so we can't be sure if its a possibility or not). Like they were talking about in the video, we don't know exactly what hell will be like. Knowing that God is a fair judge many Christians speculate that there will be various degrees of punishment for the offenses committed(similar to the various rewards people will receive in heaven). It wouldn't make sense for someone who only told a few lies in their life to be burning right next to the murderers. So non-existence would be a more desirable outcome as God can't let us keep on sinning eternally.
Ultimately, Hell is the place/state of being that God designated for those who reject Him and don't want anything to do with Him. God knew that true love could only exist if there is free will(otherwise we'd be like programmed robots). If I love someone but they insist on distancing themselves from me, the loving thing to do is let them go, not lock them up in a room and force them to love me. So God made us in his image, and gave us total free will. If we insist on being separated from him then he will honor our decision. Because we are made like God, we desire to be God, our natural sinful instinct is to selfishly seek praise for ourselves and we want to decide what is right and wrong. We reject God's laws because we like how sin makes us feel but also because we don't like being told what to do. But for those who desire to be reconciled with God, Jesus(being God in human form) took our punishment and paid our fine in God's court so he can legally let us go. Then on top of that he gives us a new heart that no longer desires sin. Now unlike other religions where you need to try your hardest to be a good person, it becomes easy for the true follower of Christ because sin loses it's appeal once you taste something a million times better(and yes sadly there are people who claim to be Christian but continue sinning intentionally, Christ warns against these people and these individuals will be worse off than even the ones who reject God). And only when free from sin can we experience true love, peace, and joy :)
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I’m curious what your definition of an atheist is if you claimed to be one and now think like this
Im sorry what? Your logic doens't add up at all and your excuse for god is even worse, like Quite bad actually. As you said there is something EXTREMELY messed up with the concept of eternal punishment for finite amount of damage you can do or "sin" but then you make some nonsense excuse that god doesn't perceive time that was so its ok for him to punish you for eternity? No that is RIDICULOUS. How is it that an all powerful god EVEN WHEN INTERACTING WITH US CAN ACKNOWLEDGE TIME AS A THING BUT SOMEHOW FAIL TO GRASP IT WHEN IT COMES TO PUNISHING US. This is just you making stuff up, you have no proof of this, but you're just going through your own mental gymnastics to justify the absurdity to the concept which still doesn't even remotely make sense or add up at all, it sounds like more made up human ideas.
Also nothing you have said states that the religion you've chosen is the right one either. The fact that you say you were once an atheist frankly sounds like a blatant lie.
@@biggzzifyPeople change. With more time and more knowledge, comes more understanding. If you let your heart and mind be willing and open to it.
@@biggzzifyI as well am very curious
“How can you have fire and outer darkness at the same time?” Bro, he’s literally God.
Bro, he’s literally not real.
can god create a squared circle?
@@desertedvoltronyes but you may not be able to comprehend
Regardless of god, does he think when you have a campfire it just lights up the earth? Like there’s literally always outer darkness
Just as you wouldn’t know what dark is without light.
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Remember that if u ever feel alone Jesus is always with u and he loves u amen thanks God
i really appreciate cliffe's beautiful view of religion. he cleary spends so much time, not only loving the lord but genuinely and actually THINKING about it logically instead of just following mindlessly. as an atheist i still appreciate this.
I was set up in a home invasion and shot in the back, and I died in the ambulance. When I died, it was nothing but darkness, honestly, that scared me because I didn't see any light. I think I was going to be a lost soul or something, since I had so much anger from being set up and shot and lived a bad life. Thank God I have a second chance to make things right, even though I'm paralyzed. 🙏♿️
God bless you bro! May you continue to live a life in the trajectory of growing closer and knowing more of the almighty God who’s always had his eyes on you and love you with an amazingly victorious plan over your life. I’m praying for you brother! Lots of love from Houston Texas!
I think that when you die, you enter a state of limbo before your judgement occurs
How long did it feel before dieing and awaking later?
@@Anonymous-sw5jx It feels like a second didn't pass, it was just nothing but darkness. I woke up couple days later and my parents that I hadn't seen in 3yrs after being homeless, was there in the room waiting for me to wake up, and that was confusing since they live couple states away from where I was shot at, so I have no clue how long I was under and how long it took to be resuscitated. It just said that I flatlined going to the hospital and they couldn't help me so they flew me to another hospital that was in another state
@@queenieqt2033 I think so too and that scares me
My teacher one's told me that hell is separation from God. He said "just imagine that someone is keeping a kid away from his mother that is just 20 meters away, the kid is watching his mother so he screams, fight, cry and beg to get to her but he can't so he suffers"
Luke 16:23-24 "In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire"
If it's in total darkness how did he see?
Revelations speaks of a "fairy lake of fire" burning with sulfer and brimstone (which is most likely lava) That is very descriptive
Tossed out of the light is a metaphor, outside the light of God
Hell is worse because if a child cries it knows that mom will come and comfort me. However in hell you will know that no matter how much you cry out he will not come to you ..there is no hope and no love
I think it's more like the mother is disowning the child because of the child's religious beliefs... which does happen a surprising amount.
So in this breakdown, hell could mean anything from being alive and alone to being dead and alone
Hell is earth if you look at gods description of hell it aligns perfectly with earth when you die if you go to hell you go back to earth if you go to heaven you go to Jesus
The work these two have been doing is amazing God bless them Amen
Honestly, these videos have really renewed alot of my faith. I was brought up by biblical literalists and hearing someone talk about how alot of the Bible is metaphorical really helps
Alot such as what?
Really helps you escape reality until you can't.
You can run but can't hide.
Face reality. And seek the face if God and his mercy in this acceptable time.
When Judgement starts or after death, it will be too late.
I always believed hell is a place where you relive the worst part of your life on a loop. Never stopping, never getting used to the feeling, never able to change the outcome. Never to escape that had happened.
Bro watched to many episodes of Lucifer on Netflix 💀
@@eliferguson3422or American horror story
@@eliferguson3422I WAS ABOUT TO SAY
oh cool! So people who don't believe in your god deserve the torture you designed in your mind for them, great. If I live my life with compassion and without religion, can you really look me in the eye and say "yeah, time to relive your trauma"
This is hell, this world we are now. It’s also heaven. It is both. It is everything. You can find both heaven and hell here on earth, and in a never ending battle of good and evil, you should choose your side carefully.
God was merciful enough to show me hell.
I dreamt I was in a pit the size of my body in a cave in the earth and I was cold and separated from all things good! No warmth , no love and no God! I could see a glimpse of where I used to work and I was trying to call out to people but they could not hear me and I was crying and calling out to God for what felt like years and years and after many many years Jesus answered me and every word he spoke to me cut through me like a double edged sword but was not accusatory.
When I awoke from this dream I cried and now I beg daily for God to have mercy on me and give me the bravery to speak to everyday people so no one goes to hell. This hell will be tossed into the lake of fire!
I think you have a fear of being alone. I'm not very spiritual, but I think that dream was showing you how you'll feel soon if changes aren't made. Or maybe it was your hell, a place in your darkest nightmare.
I pray with you tonight that in Jesus’ name he will give you the strength, courage, wisdom and knowledge to continue to seek him out and heed his word. And not have to be living in hell and sin no longer, spreading the lords love and peace.🙏🏼
You just had a dream bozo
So glad you found Jesus my guy…Keep spreading God word and remember how much he loves you. Will pray for you my friend.
Sounds like exactly what you said, a dream.
I like how this guy cliff preaches he explains very well and is very clear I am enjoying watching him talk and preach.
Honestly this really helps me. I had so much trouble understanding how a loving God could allow someone to burn in torment for eternity because they didnt believe in him. This actually makes sense to me
I remember a couple years when I overdosed, and was declared dead I felt as if I was falling I saw myself falling in third person as my body caught on fire visibly and it started to burn more and I would fall faster and eventually I woke up in the back of an ambulance Being Narcaned. God is good
I’m noticing a pattern here where a lot of people who ODed went to hell and all experience very similar things 😅
@@yoloswagprobro8227which doesn’t dismiss their stories
Why are people who OD on drugs typically the ones to experience visions of hell, in the Biblically described way?
I’m a Muslim and I respect your religion
Thank you friend, I respect yours as well.
This is cool
I'm not religious and I respect all religion
I like the way he made me believe not in a "place" where I would spend my ethernity but rather a "condition" under I would spend my ethernity. Like the god giving up on you, completely. Like a parent. It's a really wholesome interpretation.
"that's merciful though" the mental gymnastics 😂
Spending eternity in isolation, pain, suffering and despair for finite “sins” you’ve committed during a finite life is super duper merciful. You can’t get any more merciful than that…😂
All that religion is, is a way of controlling gullible masses. It never served any other purpose.
That whole story about “building a relationship with god” is exceptionally funny when you think about it. To build a relationship to god you need to go to church, confess to a priest, donate to the church and do whatever else you are obliged to do.
When you build a relationship with your spouse, do you also air it out to strangers? Do you also go to a place of communion to talk about the relationship? Do you also need to donate to an organisation to have a good relationship? It’s the oldest grift there is
@@sudowtfur not spending eternity anywhere when u are destroyed
The fire metaphor is to convey how fire completely consumes an object. The anhilation point seems the most correct to me.
However in Luke 16 it talks about the rich man crying out to Abraham while the rich man is in hell already which shows that at least there’s not immediate annihilation. I had a pastor tell me one time that the Bible never states that people from heaven can watch or see people on earth but it does say people from hell can. Idk how true that is I didn’t really research it too much after
I think biblical literalism isn’t the way to go
Is this just your interpretation or did you hear this somewhere else? I’m not saying you’re wrong, it’s just I’d like to know if this is your personal interpretation or if you heard this from a priest or pastor maybe.
@@tuckermusic4719that is fascinating to say the least
Actual chills from reading that
Fire doesn't completely consume an object, there's still ash that remains. Fire only changes it...though in the context of the Bible I guess that's still not that great.
People say Christians use burning in hell to scare people into believing which is physical torture, when in actuality separation from God seems scarier.. Why? Because that means you'd be at the mercy and whims of who knows what. Physical pain is the lowest form of suffering. Depression, sadness , paranoia, psychological torture can be way worse. And to be separated from God means that God has removed his protection. Job didn't just suffer physically, his mind suffered and his heart also did greatly suffer.
Job suffered because god made a bet with the devil. If Gods real he’s a piece of shit
Well that doesnt really rufute the point that people use hell to scare people into believing
@NotFine well what do you do when you trying to save someone running towards a cliff.
Stop believing in fairy tales get help
@@uneducatedisnotstupidlol1504 Its actually just lying to a someone who’s running and telling them there is a cliff when you actually have no idea what’s ahead.
I hate it when people in hell send me photographs 😤
Fire= metaphorically a symbol for pain
Darkness= metaphorically a symbol for despair
This is why bible interpretation is stupid because it allows people to twist and bend every word to fit their narrative.
Im not religious at all, but it's analyses like these that make me listen.
As a Christian, I’m not religious either.
@@derekewing9669As a Derek. I feel your pain when people try to spell your name. Lol that aside. Is truth religion? And if Christianity IS religion, does the truth not draw us closer to our fundamental beliefs?
As a follower of Christ I am also not religious 💯
@@derekewing9669christianity is a religion, tired of seeing this dumb take
@@derekfuqua1254Many christians, such as myself, have come to realize that religion is not what saves you. You can go to church everyday, read your Bible every day, and pray every day and call yourself a Christian, but if you haven't accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior, you are not saved. Religion doesn't equal a relationship with God, which is the thing that saves you and ultimately changes you as a person. Religion has been used time and time again to hate and discriminate against certain groups of people, if you have a relationship with God, you can't do that. Jesus says he is the way, the truth, and the life. Religion isn't truth. Jesus is.
If you read most verses about hell, it talks about the destruction of your soul. Also, it says you will be taken out of the book of life. If there is no record of your life, then it's like you never existed. No one can realize you're not in heaven if they cannot remember you existed.
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All that extra sht for what? Because someone didn't acknowledge the existence of an uncaring god who never deigned to make his wishes clear? Such a petty and vengeful deity if it exists deserves no worship
That reason right there is the reason I am hesitant to belive in God. I exesist in a world with too much nuance, I have too much understanding to think god would do such a thing. There is way to many different religions, far too many different interpretations, and too much fluff for me to truly belive.
What does it truly mean to live life for God? Is church a requirement? What about donation to the church, is that a form of payment for your sins?
I am a 19 year old young man, who's done very little, and tried very hard to succeed. My trails and tribulations are long, and my journey is one that I undertake alone. If God wants me to devote my time to his worship, he knows where I am. And I would have no issue worshiping him, but I will not worship an ideal.
God is not doing any evil, we people do. And you know that cuz there were times that you were bullying someone, or did something to hurt someone, you just don't want to take responsibility for your own mistake and you are blaming God instead. The same way you say well it wasn't a big deal that I hurt so and so, the same way are other people justifying their own mistake. And so here we are blaming God instead of repenting and trying to be light in the world
@@inquisitionagent9052 You are looking at it wrong. If I offer you a job, are you obligated to take it? No, you do not have to take the job. If you want the job, then you'll do what your boss tells you to do if you want to keep the job after you take it. It's not up to the boss to make you take the job or make you keep the job, those are up to you, not the boss.
For sure outta darkness is where the believers that's not prepared for the return of CHRIST I been there fear ye the LORD
I've seen hell...outter darkness is the simplest and yet most effective description one could manifest. Like being crammed into a small shell. No hot. No cold. Just numbness of feeling and thought. You are sentient. And although many join you in that darkness, you can't see them. Speak to them. Or sense them. It is truly a lonely experience. Void of all light and life. Forever. Praise be to the almighty God and His perfect son and our savior, Jesus Christ.
My 60 year old coworker who has been a Christian all his life, just read the bible for the first time in his life yesterday.
Wow ..reading the bible yourself is something that I always encourage people to do especially Christians because most Christians know the bible through tiktok and there there is a lot of people who teach for views
Not even religious and I'm always supprised how little people read the bible....like I don't even believe in the crap and I still read it
Reading the Bible usually converts Christians to atheists
@@diveblock2058I'm Buddhist and some of us read the Bible. It's genuinely a fascinating piece of literature.
@@SchizoCannibalBecause it’s true
There’s a man named Bill Weise and he fell asleep one night and woke up in a place that describes as hell. He was in a chamber of some sort and it was hot and dark. Long story short his spirit was tortured by multiple 9 ft talk beasts that tore his flesh and he was being burned also. Then, as he described, He was physically pulled out of that pit into heaven and he saw Jesus. He said that Jesus explained to him that no, he had not died, but Jesus chose to put him through that experience not because he was a bad person but because he needed someone to tell the world how serious hell is. Eternal separation from God isn’t a place a wanna be. That story was one of many reasons why I follow God
But that’s just a dream though thst you yourself didn’t personally experience and was shared by word and mouth? I watched Child’s Play the other day and had a dream that night about Chucky chasing me around trying to stab me. Didn’t exactly instill the belief that Chucky is real to me or the people I told the dream to
Yeah he had a nightmare. Doesn’t prove anything
If that’s actually true, dang
Source: trust me bro
Source: trust me bro
Amen 🙏🙌✝️🕊️😇❤️
This will make people not fear from sins ..
If you want people fear say it is real fire .. physical pain .
Why does it matter, we just don't wanna be there period 😅
I’d argue it matters because it can give lukewarm Christian’s a fire under their butt to get closer to God! Also it can help show that what Jesus said throughout the Bible, some was figure of speech like Cliffe says, and other parts literal.
I agree we don’t want to the there but I think it’s important to have deeper conversations about the after life, and explain why we don’t want to be in Hell
@@lukemoone4702sounds like you think christianity is the only way to god? Wrong, God knew nobody was perfect thats why he wouldn’t care about your beliefs as long as they aren’t false
@@_GetmoneyGriffSorry but that’s not what Jesus said at all He said “I am the way the truth and the life nobody comes to the Father except through me.” So either we believe you.. or we trust Jesus. I don’t even think you would trust you over Christ.
I mean he is claiming that if you do the worst shit on earth you may be vanished as atheists thinks. Don’t you find it weird and not much religious?
Uhh, look around, we are there.
Revelation 20:15 - And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
And Hell is thrown in it and Eternity for Hell means for an age or time period. And Jesus says the lost souls in Hell perish. Gone. If Lake of fire is eternal for humans in it then Jesus would not say they perish.
@@Wisdomlies Revelation 14:9-11
anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.
@@Wisdomlies then you ignore scripture an pick what scripture you like ??
@@RR-ue4im Anyways, since we know that Jesus tells us the lost souls have an end and the Hebrew there uses the word Aions, which highlights perishing, gone, an end, a final rest or end in the context, its most likely the Lake of fire, will possibly destroy the human souls in the lake of fire. For Satan and his demons and fallen angels, we also know the lake of fire is eternal. And considering Hell has an end, the real focus should be understanding the true purpose of the lake of fire and the final fate of the lost souls.
@@WisdomliesYou shouldn't be reading scripture in a bias set of mindset much less in the way you perceive. You need to repent and place your faith In Jesus Christ alone to receive the Holy Spirit and understand in His lenses.
*And these will go away into eternal punishment,* but the righteous into eternal life.” - Matthew 25:46. Notice how it says eternal punishment?
"That's merciful." To be truly and completely GONE sounds absolutely terrifying. Gone how?
I'd rather not try to figure that out. Thank Jesus I have HIm!
The statement "I am the light of the world" is like a biblical nod to God's command, "Let there be light." This suggests that Jesus is symbolically introduced into the creation story. It's important to understand that this introduction doesn't mean Jesus was created but highlights his crucial role in the world's beginning. Theologically, it emphasizes that everything was made through Jesus and for him.
Mind. Blown. Shet.
Oh I just know this. And therefore, it's mean creation story may be just a poem, and not a history of the universe.
It also literally means that Jesus provided light before the sun existed.
And also, He said, "let there be light" and He divided the darkness. Not He created darkness, but "divided" it. Great comment. ❤ God bless you.
or it simlply means that God created light for us to see aka the sun... this is something i hate, the divison of the words in the bible.. Dont make up theories for no reason dude. when God made light for us to see it didnt mean he was also talking about Jesus, read the gospels as is dont add to them, Jesus was already there since the begining of **Time** not of light. Focus on the word and following his commands and not theories
Revelation 20:10 - And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
A lot of people misunderstand this. This was for the angels not humans ❤
As the human souls are destroyed
@@trapmomlaydi9242Seems you only read bible quotations and never read a whole chapter. Because in the same chapter it says all the people whose names were not in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
I prayed to God that I would hear His voice and those words would be the sweetest words I would ever hear in my entire life.
One day while I was living in sin. I had a dream. It was just a dream but I could feel the pain.
I was in a room that was so dark that I couldn't see even a little light.
Then, two men approached me. The other one grabbed my wrist. And I cried and fell to my knees in so much pain that the part he touched seemed to burn to the core of my bones. He touched me in different parts of my body. I was crying while screaming in pain, I kept saying "Have mercy on me, open the door, have mercy on me, I won't do it again." I shouted these words over and over again.
I heard a voice, "It's too late" He said. I was stunned by what I heard. Until then I realized that the one who was hurting me was gone and I was free from the chain, then I ran to the door to open it. After opening the door, it got light and then I woke up.
that is why I believe the fire in hell does not create light
Over the years I started to believe hell is more of a black void where you and all your sins go. This man states what I’ve thought almost perfectly
In my lore for a whole franchise I'm working on, all of reality is a mess of strands of energy that bind souls to beings. When a particularly powerful being dies, their 'tether' for their soul basically becomes a god and the 'catalyst' of their sould receeds into nonexistence. Nonexistence is an inky blackness that unmakes whatever touches it and 'reality's mascot' is basically like God and Senaeschal from Dragons Dogma. They give reality a form, and offer counterweight to the natural state of chaos that is reality.
Thanks for the idea
@@mosesmessiah9098 You're funny, brother.
Dark souls 4
Non existence is one of the scariest thoughts ever, though it seems more merciful than literally burning in actual fire, but to not exist, like there is no you. No consciousness, no thoughts, nothing.
It sounds like it until you think about how the events preceding total annihilation. If someone is going to be annihilated they will know there is an eternal paradise without pain and sorrow. They will know they can never and will never be there and that they did not walk the narrow path - - it's going to be a lot to deal with before said annihilation...so yea not as merciful as one would think.
I can't remember the bible very well, but I remember that there's something in there that the armies of the world will try to enter/invade the kindom of new Jerusalem or something to that affect (I'm highly paraphrasing). Sounds to me that everyone will realize and see that that's a possible second chance and don't want the "mercy" of annihilation.
We’ve all not existed longer than we have existed . Non existence isn’t scary , you can’t even experience not existing .
@@brutuslugo3969 a lot of things aren't scary, until we're face to face with them. Being aware of self (existing), then going through the process of knowing oneself could have existed for forever in paradise...but fell short, then trying to rationalize that one will be annihilated and not exist when one could have is most certainly scary. Some people are not scared of death because they either do not believe in an afterlife, believe they will be in heaven/paradise, or do not dwell on it.
It's not so scary right now, but imagine if someone was in that predicament. Before the coming of Christ knowing they were dying, finally losing consciousness in said death (if they were aware, if not the next part would be absolutely terrifying) to then opening their eyes to the aforementioned situation; yea it'd be extremely scary.
@@brutuslugo3969you got a point but, the thought of us existed, so perhaps our souls were always in deep sleep until we were born. Meaning God has already had our personal self prepared till that point.
Take shrooms you'll understand
It’s a feeling. The burning feeling comes from living separate from God. God loves you no matter what but you’re the one who chooses what kind of relationship you will have. So the burning feeling comes from hating someone who loves you unconditionally.
It’s possible that there is an unquenchable fire and outer darkness; because the fire is an invisible flame.
For those who don’t know… the teachings of Jesus Christ were originally transcribed as metaphors, parables, and analogies etc. so that Romans couldn’t persecute the followers of early Christian faith as heretics against the accepted polytheistic beliefs of the empire at that time. The physical Bible was written under the council of Nicaea, overseen by emperor Constantine I (the first) of the Byzantine empire, which formed shortly subsequent to the collapse of the greater Roman Empire. Stoicism and Christianity share similar origins and it is quite disheartening to see that they have gone down separate paths in modern day. Organized religion is the downfall of Christianity… early Christians were the original renegades, and were persecuted like traitorous dogs .
False, there is no to very little evidence for any of this.
New Testament emphasizes the purpose of the Church, especially its replacement of the nation of Israel. It is also needed to pursue ritual and engage in the Holy Sacraments. The error wasn't organization. It was intellectuality overshadowing spirituality.
Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved” (Acts 16:31). God has already done all of the work. All you must do is receive, in faith, the salvation God offers (Ephesians 2:8-9). Fully trust in Jesus alone as the payment for your sins. Believe in Him, and you will not perish (John 3:16). God is offering you salvation as a gift. All you have to do is accept it. Jesus is the way of salvation (John 14:6).
The word Ekklisía(assembly) which was translated to “church” is only mentioned in the gospel of Matthew twice. Assembly and church are two different things.
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church.
Matthew 16:18 (King James version)
Peter=Boulder/Rock in Greek
“You are Rocky and upon this rock I will house-build my-gathering (of the God of Israel).”
Matthew 16:18( More likely accurate translation)
No he spoke in parables because the prophecy in psalm 78:12 that says The Messiah will teach by the use of Parables
Do you guys want to know what else the Bible says.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
“28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and r@pes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.” Basically saying a woman has to marry her rap1st and they cannot divorce. ppl are trying to say this verse is poorly translated but that is not true because the NIV Bible is the only Bible where it is has been thoroughly studied by Christian scholars to give u the best translation that isn’t corruption and word play .
Broooo I literally was gonna kill my self 7 years ago and I’ll never forget this. I was about to pull the trigger on a loaded revolver pointed to my temple and I paused because it’s like I entered a black void the closest thing to is like outer space and it was dead silent and I was so scared and alone. This moment only lasted a second but it was so vivid and I snapped back to reality and put the gun down started crying and was so scared I knew I wouldn’t never kill my self after seeing this. Watching this video just opened my eyes to the possibility that that was Hell
I hope you're doing good bro.
God bless you brother! ❤😢✝️
Do you guys want to know what else the Bible says.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
“28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and r@pes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.” Basically saying a woman has to marry her rap1st and they cannot divorce. ppl are trying to say this verse is poorly translated but that is not true because the NIV Bible is the only Bible where it is has been thoroughly studied by Christian scholars to give u the best translation that isn’t corruption and word play .
I’m glad your still here with us brother
Fascinating, I literally felt chills at the end of that sentence.
I heard one Christian say they had a dream about going downstairs. They saw Jesus, who was walking next to them. And with each step, the guy was losing his breath and could barely breathe. He turned to Jesus and told him "This is horrible"! And Jesus told him "Now imagine if I wasn't here with you". And he woke up.
I would argue, however, that Hell is described as fire and brimstone, and brimstone (sulfur) does not burn bright red, but rather a much less bright blue colour. So it could be possible to have _literal_ fire and darkness simultaneosly in a literal physical Hell (I don't necessarily believe that, I'm merely playing devil's advocate, for lack of a better term.)
““The rich man shouted, ‘Father Abraham, have some pity! Send Lazarus over here to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue. I am in anguish in these flames.’”
Luke 16:24 NLT
Sounds like fire to me
Well that guy really doesn’t know what’s he’s talking about, he makes up stuff as he goes on, all based on his own opinions 😂
Well, I've never heard of anyone in anguish asking for water to cool of tongue while burning in fire. Nor talking and thinking about other people while his body was aflame. It looks like the rich man was weeping in remorse.
The point isn't that hell is a fiery place
The point is that the man in this life was "satisfied" with everything he had... With his "abundance" of food/drink
Yet in the next life he was begging for JUST A DROP OF WATER to be satisfied ... Yet he found nothing to quench his thirst
Hell is a place where one is never quenched
Whether it's LUST... RESENTMENT/HATRED... JEALOUSY... COVETOUSNESS
^ the end of these is not peace but a longing NEVER SATISFIED
@@yazidhassani1251I wouldn’t say all
Bible literally says Lake of fire.
I’ve always thought the burning or fire was a way of describing the feeling of the most infinitely intense regret, fear, loneliness, anxiety and sorrow. that you will experience when you’re alone. In the darkness of the pitch black pit of hell.
It’s a way of describing what separation from God feels like and not that there will be physical fire. Therefore describing it as fire is a metaphor.
People try to understand spiritual texts and the bible TOO physically. I believe hell is a state of mind similar to what you say although it isnt as simple as we can explain
Hence why we explain the worst emotions as loneliness and darkness
Its hard to say what awaits on the other side. Once you die, your body will rot. All of your organs which once gave you life, will rot, including your brain. Therefore heaven and hell are incomprehensible. However I do believe what ever awaits us on the next side will be better, I think of it as a fetus in the womb. It is alive, but knows nothing of the world which it will be born into. If a baby in the womb doesn’t develop properly it could be born blind, missing a limb, deaf, etc, all of which will heavily impact its life. We must develop spiritually in order to be prepared for the world to come.
@@childpeanut5095Luke 16:23-24 "In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire"
If it's in total darkness how did he see?
Revelations speaks of a "fairy lake of fire" burning with sulfer and brimstone (which is most likely lava) That is very descriptive
Tossed out of the light is a metaphor, outside the light of God
Luke 16:23-24 "In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire"
If it's in total darkness how did he see?
Revelations speaks of a "fairy lake of fire" burning with sulfer and brimstone (which is most likely lava) That is very descriptive
Tossed out of the light is a metaphor, outside the light of God
i never really understood when preachers talk but this guy made that very crystal clear for ppl like me that doesn’t understand the bible n things like that how they are taught
When thinking of the Christian Hell, most people imagine what Dante wrote in his self-insert fanfiction
Day of judgement "That's a realistic looking metaphor 🗿"
i don’t agree with you but this is funny
I laughed, so I like the joke
I was taught that hell is your own personal torture and that heaven is your own personal peace
That’s in media, honestly more similar to hades or hel in Greek and Norse mythology.
Hell is for those who haven’t accepted Jesus as their Lord and savior. Jesus is the way the truth and the life and no one goes to the father (God the father) except through him(John 14:6). He lived the perfect life and had no sin but out of love he still choose to die on the cross for our sin. Everyone has sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. And God is holy and righteousness and no one with sin can be in his presence and because God is righteous he judges those who have sinned against him. This is why we need Jesus and by accepting Jesus as Lord his sacrifice and blood give us atonement for our sins so that they can be forgiven and be reconnected with God and allowed into heaven. Hell is facing Gods wrath (the lake of fire) and haveing eternal separation from him and heaven is for those who believe in Jesus and accept him as Lord for the forgiveness of sins so that they can be reconciled and in heaven with God for eternity. You can either put your faith in Jesus and accept him as Lord and savior or die in your sins without forgiveness and go to hell. It is either one or the other. I pray that you will come to know Jesus and ask him into your heart and receive the holy spirit and the forgiveness of sins and grace if you haven’t already.
@@gavinhansen3311 ok I love that your dedicated my brother in Christ I have accepted him into my heart and accepted that Jesus died on the cross for our sins but bro, tldr
“Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”
Luke 16:23-24 "In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire"
If it's in total darkness how did he see?
Revelations speaks of a "fairy lake of fire" burning with sulfer and brimstone (which is most likely lava) That is very descriptive
Tossed out of the light is a metaphor, outside the light of God
“That’s merciful though”
YEEESSSS
This is why I get so peeved when people show “biblically accurate angels”. They look just like us not some weird eye thing.
No they do not look like us at all man. Ezekiel 1:15-17
Cliff how did u forget about the story of the rich man and Lazarus. The fire is....... fire
How do you know it's a fire like what we have on earth? It could be what the feeling of being in hell is like, like burning alive.
How can a rich man and Lazarus be a true story if there hasn't been yet the first resurrection?
@@gunasaulite22 Lazarus wansnt in heaven he was ina place called Abraham’s bosum this is the place saved people went before Christ died on the cross. They couldn’t go to heaven the OT saints cause God says Hebrews 10:4-10 kjv
@@gunasaulite22he used real names
The story isn’t meant to be taken literally.
This is the most sugar coated description of hell
And no it is not metaphorical , hell is a real place
Well why would u want it to be literal? It’s the most scary thought to think an all loving God would send u to burn forever even if u reject him it’s seems a bit much…I tend to take the annihilationism theology of hell, it just seems more just and less brutal of a punishment to me.
@galaaxcy you think this way because this is what you prefer it to be? You are aware that as someone who has done exorcism before, demons believe and shutter much more on the belief of hell than you do. Read the Bible correctly, Jesus also explains it metaphorically as the branches that don't abide in Him will be *casted into eternal fire* and much more. Hell was more spoken than Heaven.
@jesuslovesyou6625 I'm Muslim. Hell is a literal blazing fire. The prophet muhammad upon whom be peace taught his disciples that the fire of hell is 70 times hotter than the fire of this life. "70" in the qur'an is usually used to mean "many" instead of just 70. Upon hearing this, the disciples said basically "oh prophet, the fire of this life would have been hot enough", and the prophet said but it was 70 times hotter. And the prophet taught that the dwellers of hell will say that if the fire of hell were only as hot as the fire of this life, they would be able to get some sleep!
And Allah mentioned in chapter 67 of the qur'an: Verse 7-8
"When they are thrown into it, they hear from it a [dreadful] inhaling while it boils up."
"It almost bursts with rage. Every time a company is thrown into it, its keepers ask them, "Did there not come to you a warner?""
And before the inhabitants of hell are thrown into it, just a tiny breeze of the heat of the fire of hell will cause those destined for it to say that there must be a mistake, this punishment is far too great.
And the paradise has been forbidden to those who associate partners with God. Jesus his messenger! Jesus worshipped God did he not? Then why are u deluded?
@@jesuslovesyou6625so you think Jesus is a 100 watt light bulb?
@@dawnmapeso6560 your comment does not make any sense
Only thing I understood, we are in hell rn unless you think God exists
Fr
In islam it is said that hellfire is kindled for 3000 years until it turned black. So yes, in hell, there is darkness
Darkness often refers to evil.
My interpretation is that souls going to Hell are reincarnated on Earth to try again
Those who follow Jesus become one with God
God is the God is “goodness” itself. If you WILLINGLY choose to be separate from the embodiment of goodness itself. Then what are you left with?
satan
Men made up around 6000 gods 🤣🤣 that alone should tell u everything
“I’m the special snowflake whose God is real 🤡”
@@yooloswag1519Are you mocking God?
The rug looked better before the last clean on a side note, blue was better, but this was also a very great way for me to imagine how the Bible explains God’s ways and teachings
I believe that hell is each individual's worst nightmare or fear. In which that individual suffers eternally.
It’s clean hell is eternal fire ! Revelation 21:8 - But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
that’s talking about the pure evil not just normal people who have fallen short. there’s other verses to describe that.
@@IlliniWestNumber1that’s talking about anyone who does evil deeds. Is sin not evil deeds. Now if you’re someone GOD knows from having a relationship with him then your saved from it. But it’s not selective evil, ALL EVIL will be cast there based off of the Judgement of GOD
What was that about the second death? That might be important.
@@IlliniWestNumber1”not normal people” but literally says “and unbelieving”
@@2Ksensiethere is no difference between evil and sin. Man can not be the judge of what is good and evil. Man is born in sin. And by this logic, everyone in the entire world would be in that lake. And everything has a relationship with GOD if all is created by him. So, Is it by belief alone that keeps Christians alone out of this lake?
Damn even Jesus says hell is fire, sounds lit af
Sometimes life’s just a pretense that leaves you feeling like you’re floating through an endless void so all the sudden hell is a lot less scarier
I love how he goes out of his way to explain his point in a rational way,
“Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.” Mark 9:44KJV, 😢❤
“Annihilated? Like gone?… that’s- that’s merciful tho” 😂😂😂😂 ya ok sound real convincing
I swear , those people are onto something 😂
I would consider being nonexistent is quite merciful compared to being burn in fire forever.
@@edward8064
Riiight , the 2 options are clearly brimming with mercifullness , don't know how I couldn't see it earlier , must be me ...
@@edward8064if u think about it, being gone is better than eternal life
Have you ever touched something so cold it burns! The absence of warmth, the absence of love, the absence of God. That would be hell.
Hell is a state of being during and after life. Your life can be terrible because of your own decisions, and then, after death, you can be remembered as a terrible person because of your own decisions.
Lake of fire left the chat 💀
Typical protties ig 🤷♂️
Hell will be tossed into the lake of fire. Hell isn’t the lake of fire.
@PumpUpTheFaith
Yes, they will exist in another dimension outside of time. That is the worst separation from GOD, there is.
You know everytime someone recites thing from the Bible to me I already know these things, god must be with me and guiding me already and I appreciate it so much ❤ Jesus is king ❤ God is king ❤
Hell is forever existing without GODS love and that is the most terrifying fate I can ever think of
Annihilation is merciful. Almost like mortality is absolution and total forgiveness. No pain, no nothing
I like the rug cleaning video at the bottom- very cool
You find it pleasant but you don’t realize how it saps your attention span away bit by bit. A good few more of these and you can’t watch a lecture or a read a book without having to scroll on your phone desperately looking for a rug cleaning video or subway surfers gameplay to play.
@@user-ml2lx5li5e but maybe the rug cleaning is really just a metaphor for life.. if the rug you walk on is dirty then how can you walk with a clean mind and heart.
No but fr im just joking, i didnt care about the rug on the bottom of the screen i was just trying to be funny bro- its all love
Yes, it’s there to keep you from thinking critically. They are not confident in their message, so they need a hook.
Be very careful Sir, that your intellect doesn't cause you great pain. The bible says it's a place where the fire is never quenched and the worm never dies.
"Annihilated, so he's merciful then" 😅
eternity and "hell" and eternity in "heaven" would both drive me equally insane.
I don’t think they will be gone bc the soul is eternal.
But the bible also says that God can destroy the body and soul in Hell
Soul and spirit is eternal. Our first death occurs in the body. The 2nd death in annihilation of body, soul spirit. That's why Jesus came to give us eternal life and save us from the 2nd death
@@christinagreene7021 I don’t think God is going to let Satan off by just destroying him. It is eternal separation from God. If you’re gone you’re just gone. You’re not eternally separated from anything. That’s no punishment, that is mercy. Do you think God will be merciful to satan?
@@republikentalks4454 will you tell me where?
@jacobcarr135 Matthew 10:28. Don't fear man who can kill the body but fear the Lord who can destroy the body and soul in Hell