This FORGOTTEN Nineteenth Century Technique is How I Became a Professional Artist | Drawing Tutorial
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- This model is a Bargue Plate, it comes from a nineteenth century drawing course, once forgotten, now commonly used in modern ateliers. I’ve already recommended the book plenty of times on this channel, if you don’t know yet, you should have it but you can also download the printer friendly, clean image on my website.
This drawing is supposed to be done sight-size, which is a great technique for figurative drawing and painting. To make it short, the drawing and the model are placed side by side vertically and an observation spot is placed two or three steps away from the easel. Yes, you’re supposed to be standing up, even better moving back and forth from your easel. Forget about sitting down, your entire body will be involved in this exercise.
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I am an artist living and working in France. I learned the techniques of the Atelier of the Nineteenth century and now I try to share some of my knowledge with the rest of the world, because I think that beauty still has an important role to play in artistic creation. I do mostly drawing and oil painting, and my goal is always to provide techniques, thoughts and explanations that can be useful to anyone, from beginners to more advanced artists.
The material I use most of the time (not necessarily in this video) :
Drawing
✓ Kneaded eraser
✓ Plumb line (DIY)
✓ Small mirror
✓ An old synthetic brush
✓ Masking tape
✓ Cutter
✓ Sandpaper or sanding block
✓ Mahlstick or Hand rest (DIY)
✓ Level ruler
Graphite
✓ Pencils 2H, HB and 2B
Charcoal
✓ If available: Nitram charcoals (H, HB and B)
✓ Square charcoals
Black and white chalk
✓ Sketch pencil Conté white
✓ Square Conté noir : HB and 2B
✓ Chalk or pencil holder
✓ Pencil sketch Conté Pierre noire : H and HB
Sanguine
✓ Sketch pencil Conté : Blood and blood Medici
✓ Crayon Polychromos Faber-Castel : sanguine
✓ Sketch pencil Conté white
Oil painting
Palette
(Extra-fine paint, recommended brands depending on availability: Sennelier, Lefranc Bourgeois, Winsor and Newton, Royal Talens Rembrandt, Blockx, Michael Harding, Gamblin)
✓ Titanium White PW6
✓ Flake White (or substitute) PW1
✓ Cadmium Yellow light (or "lemon") PY35
✓ Yellow Ochre PY42
✓ Raw Umber PBr7
✓ Transparent Red Oxyde PR101
✓ Burnt Umber PBr7
✓ Venetian Red PR101
✓ Pyrrole Red PR255
✓ Quinacridone Rose PV19
✓ Quinacridone Magenta PV19
✓ Ultramarine Blue PB29
✓ Mars Black PBk11
✓ Cobalt Teal Blue (turquoise light) PG50
✓ Phthalo green warm PG36
Brushes
✓ Filbert hog bristle and Synthetic sizes n° 4, 6, 8, 10 and 12
✓ Flat Synthetic brushes (same size)
✓ Round sable brush or round Kolinsky sable n° 4, 8, 10, 12 (from the size of the nail (about one inch) or synthetic imitation
Medium
✓ Linseed stand oil
✓ Odorless mineral spirits
✓ Or Alkyd medium (Liquin, Galkyd, Flow'n'Dry etc.)
✓ Safflower oil
Surface
✓ Linen canvas, fine grain universal coating
✓ For studies : Canson oil-acrylic oil paper Figueras
Others
✓ Palette
✓ Sponge and spalter brushes
✓ Palette knife in the shape of a water drop, no souldering
✓ A few small pots, containers, jars...
✓ Paper towels
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Hello my friends, if you want to follow along, don't forget that you can download the model (completely free, no email required) on my website. Check the links and let me know how it goes for you ! Joy and inspiration to you all ✨✨😊😊✨✨
Hello, Teacher Florent Farges. May I request that you do a video on Da Vinci's techniques and materials?
Thanks, Sir.
Yes I am so thought to I started drawing because of my disability use my hands again I was sent to Centre to start using my hands and my whole body rattled you too what is the about self-taught is a lovely thing to know you can work alone buy an artist
Thank you for sharing that with me it is an amazing thing did you hear that you were self-taught I went to the centre call the dragon cafe and I had a teacher her name was Lee give me a pen some pencils use my hand but because of not able to use my hand I'm having Parkinson's disease I had to special here to help me so that I can draw with my hands that is a wonderful thing a lot of people will try to do that self-taught hard if you can help yourself drawing everything little bit at a time and you will be able to do much better
My father was painter. He finish academy for art and was very good. He didnt let me use paint until i was 11. Drawing and shading only. Black and white mostly. He was right. Painting is like icing on the cake. You have to have cake first and drawing is foundation.
Incredible dad fr 🥳
best way to learn for sure. if you throw someone straight into painting its like expecting a child to bake a cake by themselves before they've ever learned how to turn on the oven. Complete mess.
@@user-pc9xc4ib5o dad is just snob one:)
@@user-pc9xc4ib5o God forbid a child have fun and be creative without being perfect. I feel sad for this person.
I wonder why you changed lanes to pursue violin instead 🙄
This is really weird but my technique is... taking my glasses of. I have terrible long distance eyesight. It really helps me see the overall shape of things better, because the details often confuse me. When I get the shape right, then I go crazy with details. :D
I squint to get the general shapes and to check values.
It's not weird actually, it's a great technique, I cover squinting and tilting the head in a video on my channel 👍😉
Squinting is similar - you only see the general shapes and not all the distracting detail.
Another technique is to gently pull corner of your eyes with a fingers.
This way eyes won't get too tired.
I doesn't work for me, but I know people who do it.
I know excatly what you mean. So I guess there is a silver lining for those who have difficulity in seeing distance.
I didn’t go to art school, either. However I did have an apartment when all my friends were in art school & still lived with their parents. They came and did art at my kitchen table, taught me what they learned that day, while they got stoned without parental interference. 😅 So much marijuana and I got a free education! Ha! That was 27 years ago, and I’m still learning. Thanks for the great video! 🖤
I love cannabis too
The fact that you’re self-taught gives me a lot of hope for myself!
Yes, I've been wondering about this for years. I haven't been following lately so maybe it came up before and I missed it, but it's good to know it.
Don't waste your time watching tutorials on CZcams often it only makes the process of learning way harder than it should be, rather save money, buy somes good art books or pay for some lessons. Please trust me it will save you a lot of time 🙏🙏🙏
@@CodenameJameslee thanks for the advice. A retired art professor from one of the local universities gave me a list of books, which I have been working through. At the same time, while CZcams is no substitute for a structured program, I have picked up some interesting tips and tricks from videos.
@@MarkSheeres 🙏🙏🙏
@@MarkSheeres that great man, I really hope for the best
The beauty in art is that the artist will not make the proportions identical to the original but still make the drawing feel like the original and that is what gives art that feeling and look.
As someone who did do some art school I must say how he describes needing to know the discipline to do art is 100% spot on.
To do art that has the desired affect you have to know and understand well the rule to be able to break them in a way that achieves the desired affect. If you know proportion and framing you can distort them to create dramatic effects and etc etc. There's so many parts to know and it take iterations or phases of learning. Artists should be adding to their skills or knowledge often.
If you're jsut starting or stuck in a rut, I believe in you and you will get where you want to be. Try new things, have fun with them, and do your best to push through the awkward phases and really learn the skills of the technique or properties of the mediums you try!
Thanks sharing your insights, much appreciated 😊✨
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This is how my father taught me to draw. I’m happy to learn the technique has a name, thank you.
For left handed artists, remember to reverse your source work and drawing surface. The picture you're copying from should go on the right side of the board. That keeps your hand and wrist from blocking the view of your subject.
so on the side of the artists drawing hand?
Wonderful tip. I think in order to draw anything observation is the key.
I honestly would go bonkers stepping back and forth from my easel like that but I must confess that the reward is fantastic. I like the quality of the final artwork.
I didn't have any formal training and art lessons at school were not very useful for really developing skills. The Great Leap Forward for me came when a really good art teacher at high school got me to work on one drawing, in detail and with close observation, for the entire term (12 weeks, about 24 hrs of work).. I never finished it but it gave me a very useful foundation experience for my art. This is very useful to watch, thank you.
Bargue is wonderful. I did about half the book, although not "correctly" as you describe in this video, and it taught me a ton. I'd love to go back and actually do one of these sight size like you did in this video.
I love both drawing and painting and I learned from my virtual class last summer that drawing is the foundation of painting. The best relationship in Art is the relationship of drawing and painting. The value contrast , color saturation make the painting comes alive. I’m learning proportions right now and doing the application memorizing the guidelines in my head and practice as much and analyzing the photo pr sceneries I see in my surroundings. I do love your tutorials because I love charcoal drawing and keep learning to reach my goal to be able to do realism portraiture. Thank u for sharing your in-depth knowledge 🔥🔥🔥
That’s was the basic of drawing for our courses in Belgium.
And received few days too when I was in Firenze.
I've seen that gesture, with the flat line pencil/brush, in some old cartoons when I was a kid without understanding what they were exactly doing, and now that I see you hold your pen like this, it all begins to make sense in my mind and it's awesome! hank's dude! Merci!
Yay Florent!!! 🎉 Love your videos!!!
Excellent, excellent advice as always. Thanks!!!!!
When I was in art school, we used this technique for our still-life projects, straight down to the marker on the floor. Well done, Florent!
i always knew that illustrating traditionally was some sort of physical activity. it's like dancing in a way, and it's beautiful
It is a bit like dancing, indeed
Thank you Florent, very interesting.
Thank you so much for the book
I will buy it and do as you said.
Loved your video and your art. You are doing great
God bless you ❤
I really like how you just jumped into it
I've done something like this, but digitally in Clip Studio on my laptop, using a cabinet as a makeshift standing desk and moving back to look at the canvas. Very effective painting study method.
Very cool! 👍
Thank you
This is what I am looking for for a long time
I like this technique
thank you. I will do this. so great
Very helpful 👍🏻👍🏻❤❤❤
I started drawing first before I started Oil painting 🎨🖌️ and I stand back regularly when I am painting too,. Yes observation is key , 👍
Just got my bargues this weekend. Started with some of the smaller ones, the eyes in the first pages. Challenging!!
Great video!
Intelligent approach thanks
beautiful video
Barque plates. I've been thinking about them and just got a video recommended.
The best book I have ever bought. Though it is an expensive text book. Very much worth it.
I went to art school. We didn't learn in the atelier method. Most don't. So much of this information is new to me.
thank you so much ☺️ I can see how this technique works long but sure. also I was very inspired by the fact you are a self taught Artist, as am I. I really thought you had gone to art school , remarkable 👍clear dedication from you shines through
I've got myself hocker on wills and it's very comfy, I can move back and forth while sitting down.
A very helpful video Florent. I've dabbled with portrait drawing and painting and when I spend time on the subject I can see the improvements, However my first love is seascapes. When I come back to portraits I have the same sense of being a beginner all over. The difference is that I can recover more quickly each time I take a break. Good practice is essential as you indicate in your video. Look forward to the next one.
Man, I wanna get into painting, what kind of material do you recommend for starters? (Like watercolor, oil, etc.)
@@enrater123 - Hi - this is Florents channel so I hope he doesn't mind my answer🤔🤔 I've painted with almost every type of material and keep coming back to oils as they dry slow and are great to learn with. However the finished paintings need time to dry so maybe not the most convenient. Water mixable oils are a game changer as the clean up is so easy without using thinners. My advise is to look for a local art class and see if they provide the paint for the class before diving into purchasing your paint. Try out different styles and materials - Happy Painting -
@@PaulRansonArt oh, I see, there were painting classes in my school but I unfortunately didn't sign up for them on time, I'll see if I can get in next year while I work on my drawing skills
Eres un gran Maestro,muchas gracias desde Bogotá Colombia
Ok... now if I were to draw this... that vertical plum line makes it easy to follow.
Starting with the neck and underchin... because it's closest to the plum line, begin the shading on the neck, working your way out onto the underchin while darting your eyes back n forth (this helps your vision BLEND the 2 objectives TOGETHER).
With out picking up your pencil, work your back to the neck and with a curved line UP to the ear, noting how the bottom ear lobe is in alignment with the bottom of the high cheek bone.
THIS TYPE of drawing is called FREE ASSOCIATION DRAWING. 😊
It's like "leep frogging" from rock to rock with out falling into the pond... ha!! 😅
Ultimately, we are all self-taught...
The creation of excellent art is most definitely a discipline. ...and in this case, actual exercise.😊
Good stuff, thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Thank you.
The preview picture almost made me sneeze! :P Hey, first time on your channel! I feel like it'll be really enjoyable to stick around for a while!
Its a shame kids stopped learning draftsmanship. This is like abc's for an artist.
People appreciate artistic skill when they learn this.
First, all respect to Florent for having successfully self-made himself into a very competent artist.
Two things need to be understood about this tutorial. First the method Florent demonstrates here is not the method the Bargue books teach. The Bargue method can be found taught in various places for free, and involves drawing an envelope of the most generalized conception of the shape and then breaking that up into lines that are more and more specific. That method, more than what is shown here, enforces a process that goes from the general to the specific, and uses measured angles as much as measured lengths to create accuracy.
The second thing that needs to be understood is that there doesn't seem to be any evidence that the method taught in the Bargue book is the same as the method of the French Academy proper (even less so for any other school of drawing for that matter). The Bargue book was developed to bring tasteful source material into the drawing program for non-artists. It was intended for the coursework for artisans, i.e. people who were not expected ultimately to draw at the level of students of the French Academy. The method taught in it is one path into accurate drawing, and is probably the best path for modern students to take, but there is no reason to think it was the only path taken by great artists in the past.
There are people who like to denigrate sight-size drawing, but this is truly a non-issue. Going from skill in the drawing approach of the Bargue books in same-size measurement to working in proportional measurement is not a big deal. It is generally only people who have not had the sight-size Bargue training who make this into an issue.
what type of paper/sketchbook would you recommend for this exercise? great video as always man 👍
Forgotten my arse! This gruelling technique is still taught everywhere from Venice to Eaglehawk.
Thank you! This guy has the longest art videos without actually saying anything.
Thank you, great video and technique. Well taught.
Hi Florent, quick question: do you look at the picture you are drawing at all when in the ‘drawing position’ or is it just when you are in the ‘observation position’?
Thanks! I love your channel! 🎉
Thank you for posting this and sharing your knowledge and expertise. I got the Drawing Course book earlier this year but I've been lost on where or how to begin. This video has given me the inspiration to start, thank you so much!
I must copy a few Barque lessons in pan pastel !!
I never went to fine arts school asa digital artist, and i noticed many traditional artist marks out areas before shading or painting. Is there a specific name for it? I think it’s very interesting method to mark out and design a shapes.
I'm gonna be honest here. I just watched your video on So called masters secrets and this video played next. This video was so eye opening to me. I never learned or even imagined this technique of capturing the essence of what I would hope to capture in a drawing. Thank you soooooo much for teaching and sharing you knowledge. 🥰
what I noticed immediately is your cheekbone is closer to the line and the whole head isn't wide enough. When I was in art school I used to draw 3d models and transferring them in 2d in my vision before putting on paper. That helped me a lot to get a 1:1 replica. You have to kind of disassociate from the 3d object in your mind and see it in this more abstract shape, it's not easy to explain, but this helped me a lot. It's like a meditative practice where you try to trick your brain to flatten the shape like it's already on paper.
Definitely tricky. Any tips in how to do that?
@@Mattypantaloons I guess it just comes with time, and you have to be relaxed and let the mind zone out, without thoughts or processes. It's basically meditation.
Also we did a lot of croquis, which definitively helped a lot to see the whole picture, without focusing too much on the details. I think shadows and details become distraction for novices, we were always taught about the importance of the whole object and placement in space and movement and then reducing to details later if necessary for the assignment.
Hi Florent. I'll be travelling to Paris on December and I don't wanna miss your exhibition. Do you know by any chance the opening hours? I guess weekends shouldn't be an issue, but just in case. Thanks :)
Looks a lot like how you would set up the basic shape in a CAD program.
Can a smaller picture help to avoid moving back? Maybe positioning It slightly tilted to look at It as straight as possible
Is there a reference photo or video,of the naked woman drawing,on the background at 1:20 please?
I also have a paperback edition of "Cours de dessin" by Charles Barque and Jean-Leon Gerome. It is a wonderful way to learn how to draw.
one time when i was a kid i wanted to draw this picture i had of my cat, so i took the photo, and measured out a one inch grid and drew it on with a pen. then i just drew a pencil grid on paper and then i could see that all the lines in the photo were just a line at this angle and it's this far from the corner, this far from top etc. it worked really well and i think if was a useful technique. kind of like a view finder
.... Playing(a wrongly done practice copy ) with a demo in Harold Speed book made me realize the variations ( of such lessons of/ like that Barque and Bridgman & other). My development was very sadly pathetic long. My work then always sell[out].
there are so many parallels in painting and drawings, glazing for example. thin layers of pencil shading looks much better than one layer of hard pressure, just like glazes in painting
I wonder if the old masters would have used the grid method if it were available to them.
0:47
What if you don't have the space or don't have the most functional legs?
Ce qui est intéressant avec ton utilisation du crayon, bien que la longueur de la mine soit déjà un truc qui fait s'exclamer de surprise, c'est que tu fais des traits avec si peu de pression sur la mine que lorsque tu passes l'efface pour effacer les traits d'encrage, peu importe comment ça s'appelle, éh bien il n'en reste plus aucune trace, et le résultat est vraiment très propre!
His pencil lead is super long that is strange 🤣 But haven't you invested in good drawing tools? good set of pencils, and some erasers. It is definitely worth to get a good set of erasers. But the softer pencils can make dark lines with little pressure. So the pencil does not get deep in the paper... With the right eraser it will come off clean. Same way with a good eraser you can bring some highlights to a drawing
Title of the book you held up, please.
Can someone please explain to me why pencil measuring distance is a thing? I never understood it and I don't see the point either 😭
Your 100% right on about standing, I had started doing that to help find better scale,for figures and I use coal so it helps limiting smudges.
Do you have a way for us to send our work ,to suggest, recommend ways to improve?
Sight and size technique its not forgotten but not popular since it is time consuming and requires absolute patience to make even a single mark. This technique is use full for comparative drawing.
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There are many variations and looks for this book. MANY. Sadly they not done.
That is the sharpest pencil I’ve ever seen.
Haha, it's an art in itself to sharpen a point like this 😉
Every Road leads yo Rome. I learnt drawing in traditional way(half of them were Russian way) in northern China in Later 1980s to early 2000 through my childhood to university. I spent a lot hours on drawing. Thousands of thousands of hours. I never copied a 2d work. We went through hard way, directly copy from 3d objects to paper. But I still made it through. I guess in China, a lot us did it the hard way. I wish I knew this technique earlier. But I only found this technique like 5 years ago.
I'm not an artist at all, but I have to sketch what I see quickly and somewhat accurately for my studies and line of work. Would this type of technique be of use for someone like me?
This technique helps overall but it always have to be complemented with quick drawing sessions, like 5 min poses etc. that part of the technique is the most important in your case, I would suggest to do 80% quick sketch and 20% of this sight-size.
@@FlorentFargesarts Thank you!! I'll look into exercises like that!
If i draw one model every month is it enough ?
First time watching a drawing video, did you shave your pencil down to graphite by hand? Does so much exposed lead help with pressure control to avoid breakages?
Really interesting technique video overall, thank you.
Yes, it helps a ton with pressure and amgle variety. You multiply your range by ten, easily. Downside is you get super sad when you drop it 🤣
Hi from Serbia, and here we are, baroque are my way standard realism,but also still life love,animal art but all are in Baroque, why just because great shadows and ligts, and prefer power chrome painting.
I just want to know how to sharpen my pencil like that
I’ve not seen a pencil sharpened like yours. I guess it avoids having to switch pencils frequently. 🤔
Indeed, it mostly helps getting more angles and pressure variety which makes it easier to reach light values with great precision.
It is necessary to be that sharpe to have even tones thus to make subtle transitions. 😊
How do you sharpen it like that??
@@MiddleEarths I’ll ask around and get back to you.
@@MiddleEarths use sand paper
Oh my)), I see, right - it's a r t s. Because, according to the initial image, it looked like a video about removing nose hair, (using a 19th century technique.))
But I really liked it. Besides nose hair removal , painting is my other great passion. So, Thank You
From what I see you basically want to be exactly 2 arm lengths away from the subject. This way you don’t get foreshortneing and the scale is 1:1. Your “image plane” is 1 arm length always.
I wish I new you a long time ago
No worries, my previous aren't going anywhere and there's plenty coming up in the future 😉👍
aw come on brother, staring at goddamn easel for 14 hrs? have we never held a pencil before?
anyway off to try it
...with music or even a podcast in the background... Or even a rooster! 🤣
Haha, I know, this little monster is ruining my days 🤣
Got the Excalibur of pencils tf💀💀💀
lol its just a short pencil in a pencil extender that has been sharpened with a razor blade to expose the lead. its typically used by students of the bargue method which is what he's demonstrating.
Wow, wth with that pencil lead?
I've got Bargue plate lessons in my college. I don't think it's really that forgotten, just that it's quite tricky to do it because of the constant drafting and measurements. I sometimes do Bargue.
Heya
Heya 😊😊👋👋
Bit random but Vincent van Gogh is my favourite painter if all time, I just find his style so unique that it's impossible to replicate without his hand, that's why I don't like all these new gen artists work, they never take risks and always looks like it's done by the same person, hard to tell them apart
Vincent used these plates to copy . He commented on how useful they were to improving his figure drawing.
You need to be looking for different artists then. There are plenty of contemporary artists who have unique styles. Much more unique than even Van Gogh.
... I can tell you're self taught, because this isn't a forgotten technique... It's literally taught in most art colleges. Hell I was taught this in a small college.
I was gonna say.
Yeah this is taught in most art schools but doesn't show up online much.
His actual quote at 0:09 is: "ONCE forgotten, NOW commonly used"... He didn't make that mistake...
@@Heidi2003 if it's a 19th century technique, that's been taught in schools since the 19th century... When was it forgotten?
@@Heidi2003 Yes, but the title is "This FORGOTTEN Nineteenth Century Technique...". If it's "once forgotten, now commonly used", then he didn't use a "forgotten technique" to self-teach himself anything and the title is just clickbait.
The thumbnail made me think this was a video about lobotomies
I'm starting to see that all these techniques, maths, and methods are defining who is an artist, and who is a craftsmen.
This is like watching someone make a shoe.
Artists don't use a medium correctly. They use whatever they can get in new an invetive ways to get their vison done. They don't care about the process. Never have.
There was no art before the XIX century. Yes, right...
@Gary Allen That's still a skilled craftmen to create a product. Instead of a shoe it's a painting for decor.
...3 crayon. Etc
TLDR: use a Bargue Plate, and sight-see with a pencil.
“Forgotten technique”
*except at any figure drawing lab
NGL I clicked on the video because I mistook the thumbnail for a dude self-lobotomizing or something after just reading "this technique is how"
Sniping for artists
You pencils are 4 inches bare 😅 I wonder why? If you hate wood on the pencils, you can buy just the bare pencil with no wood and save a whole tree it takes a whole tree to get 1 pencil and you just throw it away...
funny my pencils are the opposite. Barely sticking from the wood at all. Then I remove a small bit, eventually, when it is hard to get contact with the paper. My paint brushes are also all dirty and hard, just like me. Dirty and hard with barely any pencil showing