2023 Ford Raptor VS 2023 Toyota Tundra TRD PRO: Is The Raptor Really Worth $16,000 More?
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- čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
- Today I compare a 2023 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro to a 2023 Ford F-150 Raptor 37 Performance Package!
Raptor MSRP: $87,980
TRD PRO MSRP: $71,486
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I love how Benny talks so fast and gets on with it, not like some reviewers who blab and linger on and on .....
TRD Pro all the way! Put the $16k into a few mods for the TRD Pro and you'll be well ahead of the Raptor. HP similar, but TRD Pro has more torque and better MPG.
LMAO 😂😂
Show us where “$16k” gets you 14” front and 15” rear suspension travel on a tundra. Including the fox shocks, stiffer frame, and fenders to tuck the tires. LOL
(Also, the suspension travel I listed is for the 35” Raptor model.
At that point the price difference would only be $7k)
No 37's? No fox shocks?
@@bruh4255 The TRD PRO has Fox Shocks.
Pro all day just an all around better vehicle put 35s on it and it’s over longevity torque thru mud sand everything
@@Cincithebest513longevity 😂
Great video! There are several things that the Raptor has that the TRD Pro doesn’t, or does better than the TRD Pro, in my opinion. Here are a few that I personally care about: 4WD Auto, Tow Hooks, Fox Live Valve shocks, bigger tires/lift from factory, better travel, etc. Also, the TRD Pro is a very expensive truck in CO (where I live) because of dealer markups (typically $10K for the TRD Pro models).
Raptor isn’t being marked up there? It is almost everywhere else.
The fact I can get a raptor for 10k less is a win for me
@@matthollis1270 I looked at a 2023 Raptor a few weeks ago it was $91k plus a $5K mark up dealer also had a 2022 Raptor w/3k miles for $84,500.. tell you what with the higher interest rates and pushing 100k payments go up quick with 20k down :)
IMO.....Recaros are way better looking and feeling. A comfortable bucket that stands up over time. Worth the premium for sure
The Tremor, AT4, or ZR2 are more applicable comparisons. The Tundra Pro isn't anywhere close to the Raptor. Great review as always!
On paper the Raptor is The Truck. Performance wise the Raptor has it. Is it worth 16k over the TRD Pro cost, I think it is.
The side profile and stance of the tundra is not nearly as nice. I don’t mind the front end but that’s about where it ends.
The tundra is nice but not on the same level as the Raptor. Raptor all day!
Sure.. Go enjoy your raptor and let me enjoy the video
F150 Raptor is amazing and the best
Answer to this videos question is simple:
Depends on how much smiles are worth. I can tell you a Toyota will rarely make you smile while you drive it.
The new one does
I'll take Raptor
I'll get the tundra any day and spend those 16k on upgrades
Solid choice if offroad performance isn’t your aim.
“$16k" doesn’t get you 14" front and 15" rear suspension travel on a tundra. Including the fox shocks, stiffer frame, and fenders to tuck the tires. LOL
(Also, the suspension travel I listed is for the 35" Raptor model.
At that point the price difference would only be $7k vs the Tundrra trd pro)
@@R_TowerYou’re absolutely correct. I can outfit the Tundra with Camburg/King or Camburg/Fox long travel suspension and, get this, 37” tires/wheels. If you use proper offset all you’ll need are fender flares to tuck the tires. All of this for about $16K. 😂
@@skoodercrunch2821
Lmao and then drive home with a stock rear suspension.
Dreamers finna dreammm😂
Yes.
The answer to all your Raptor questions.
Raptor all the way
The fact the raptor doesn't force hybridization and mediocre performance is worth the $16000 in my opinion.
False😂!
Nah
Nothing wrong with the Hybrid Engine. This Hybrid has 437HP and 583 ft lbs of torque at a much better fuel economy. Let's not mention the Toyota reliability which has put Ford to shame over the years. The negatives on the Toyota is no option for bigger tires. The Raptor with those 37s looks very nice.
*Toyota all day*
@@ndm8447 Much better? No. Toyotas hybrid wasn’t designed for economy. In real world tests they get about the same mpg. But the Raptor needs premium fuel.
I love Toyotas but just when you think they can't make the front end any uglier, they somehow managed to do it. Fire the design department, please. Spindle is a dirty word.
The interior of the tundra look like a crime scene
Comparing these two is just trolling. They are two different classes of truck entirely. Of course, the raptor is completely badass and I'd love to have one but I'm not going to pay that kind of money for a truck. I've owned every brand and one thing I can absolutely guarantee--the trd pro will still be running long after the ford is done.
I love the Raptors, they’re beautiful and powerful, and really thought it would be my next pickup truck. My buddy’s son purchased one and I’m glad he did. What a damn lemon he has on his hands. It spends almost as much time in the shop as it does in his driveway. 😂
Great video at the perfect time. I currently have the 2022 Tundra TRD Pro. I've had it since July and at first it was great but a few things have crept up in the past couple of months that has me a little concerned for the future durability. Overall, I am happy with my Pro but my dream truck has always been the Raptor. I am actually going to talk about getting a 2023 Raptor this week. If the numbers work I may be making the switch over to the Raptor...we'll see. But if the numbers don't work in my favor I will still have a very nice truck.
Which issues has your new Tundra experienced?
@@siimplymari to name a few…I had wind noise from the moonroof and drivers side window, cheap plastic interior parts cracked (small crack in drivers side seat base) and squeaking (DIY’d the squeaky console), lack of turning radius was becoming an issue for me, loud high pitched humming noise when braking from the hybrid regen brake system that Toyota claimed was normal, small water leak coming from overhead console area during heavy rain, found loose screw in the moonroof that Toyota said went to nothing. These things all happens about 4-5 months into ownership. Because of these reasons I was not enjoying my driving experience so I ended up purchasing the Raptor which I am very happy with so far but only time will tell.
@K Kitch this is concerning i was about to purchase a 2023 trd pro cause i fell in love with it but man this sounds like a horror story especially for a 80k dollar truck. At 80k i keep telling my self i might as well go get a older trx
Nobody looks forward to getting into their Toyota Tundra in the morning, I’ll leave it at that
@@AgentGeo are you still loving the raptor? I’m in this debate currently and I’m leaving away from Toyota due to constant complaints about the new trucks that are the same complaints you’ve had
I'll just say it once, the tundra is no match for the raptor.
yes tundra is cheaper though
No one in their right mind would have ever thought it actually was.
Good luck getting more than 50K miles out of that thing before it breaks down. Toyota is proven reliability buddy.
@@driftx2
Sold my last Gen2 with 80k 😊
In a Gen3 now.
“Get a Civic Si instead of a Vette, because reliability”
- That “Logic “ 🗿😂
#Cope
There are a lot of raptors that past that number without an issue@@driftx2
Def raptor
This comparison is like a quadraplegic challenging Usan Bolt in a foot race.
The TRD kit is not available for the TRD Pro trim. The TRD lift kit is for the other trim levels.
TRD pro is very nice once you upgrade to larger tires. The stock tires look too small on all trims imo.
That’s the thing. U buy the thundra trd pro to upgrade for big tires. Better as well buy the raptor
Ya but the raptor will be in the shop way before and more often than the trd period.
Thanks for sharing
I am looking at both of these vehicles in the future.
Wonder if Ford will ever make a hybrid Raptor???
Comparison between Tundra TRD Pro and Silverado ZR2? 🤔
He did one czcams.com/video/nY7So8xDg3A/video.html
If you want to pay $16,000 more for a truck that's not nearly as reliable go right ahead... Even tho tundra has a hybrid system it's 2X as reliable as a Ford with just boost imo🤷
😴There's near zero reliability data on the new Tundra
@@79random exactly...
Im a Tundra owner, though not a current gen. You can't really say the Tundra is more reliable as 1. It's a brand new truck and 2. The roll out of the new Tundra hasn't gone great, lots of issues.
Tundra fanboys only argument is reliability lol 😅😅😅😅
@@c-grunt6853 Your forgetting all the old gen issues Toyota had to deal with. "Teething issues" should be expected with any new model and any manufacturer.
I gonna perfur both of these vehicles Ben.
Short and long answer is yes. Yes, it is.
Not a "toss up" at all. $16k+ difference makes it a no-brainer. TRD Pro all the way.
I Love Both,But I Love The Raptor More!.Am Loving The Azure Grey Colour
I am Toyota’s fan, all my family are driving Camry 2014, RAV4 2016, sienna 2020, they are over 100,000 miles and over 5 years without any problems, still running smooth, and good, paid cheap for maintenance. We haven’t try any US car companies yet, Ford looks good with model F150 Raptor, but I don’t know how much it costs for maintenance and how it is after 5, 6 years later. I am thinking to trade in my car for Toyota Tundra Pro or Ford f150 Raptor.
Where’s the tow hooks on the tundra? I’ll take the Raptor, it sounds better and looks better in my opinion.
Starting on the 2023 MY Raptor - no Torsen Front Diff. Now, that said, at least for the 2023 Raptor R - the engineer, on a video explained they took it out because their Brake Distribution system works as well or better. The question is, or maybe folks are assuming, that this same system was implemented in the NON-R Raptor. Anyway, no more Torsen for F150 Raptor or Raptor R.
To me their almost not even the same species lol.
So when the folks at Toyota were in a meeting and the decision was made to go with "TRD," how was there not a single person who said, "Wait, we're gonna put 'turd' badges on our vehicles?"
Tundra for sure !!
Totally agree
If off road performance isn’t important, then sure lol
I would do both of the trucks
Ben, quick question. I was thinking about tuning my 22 Raptor, what do you think and do you know if anyone who has done it? Is it worth it?
I don't have one but have researched it extensively and it's a big boost
I want a affordable truck. I live in inflationary real practical world now. Not fantasizing about trucking
Ben, do you know if a base model Raptor comes with the tailgate step or do you have to get the moon roof/power tailgate package?
The latter.
Price difference?
Different class of trucks. Also good luck finding a raptor for only $16k more lol.
Dealers are doing msrp now, just gotta look
They exist. Just have to really open up your search area!
@@BenHardyCars hey Ben do you think I should pay $5K over MSRP for my 2023 Tundra Pro that I have an allocation for? I do you think I have the option to even say no? Please help me any way you can. Thank you for your amazing videos!
Put $16,000 into the Tundra then compare them
Done and still shit
They aren't at the same level body size alone. Raptors are wider.
@@quebecome those wide fenders really make all the difference
LMAO 😂😂
Show us where "$16k" gets you 14" front and 15" rear suspension travel on a tundra. Including the fox shocks, stiffer frame, and fenders to tuck the tires when fully compressed. LOL
(Also, the suspension travel I listed is for the 35" Raptor model.
At that point the price difference would only be $7k between the Raptor and tundra pro)
Ram TRX: hey, what's going on here?
Typical Ram doesn’t listen to their customers
Why are people trying to compare these two trucks?!?!?!? Would you compare a camaro ss to a chevette? Umm no you wouldn’t. No V6 is in the same conversation as a supercharged v8
A lot of folks dream about owning a Raptor, nobody dreams about owning a Toyota. just saying...
Raptor is a model. Toyota is a manufacturer, genius.
@@jamesmccormick3132
His comment still holds true lol
Mountain Man Benny very compatible with Raptor!
Two beautiful trucks.
If you can afford Raptor buy it, if not enjoy Tundra but you always gonna be dreaming about (😅R/r) make your self happy, life is short ☝🏻
Use the Tundra to trailer the Raptor. Park at the trails and take the Raptor for the day.
I am not a fan of the new tundra look. I think it’s Goldie the older model looks so much better The headlights looks way too small for the big old grill. Love the Ford raptor. Just a neat package.
1st, 2nd and 3rd?! Haha, Happy new year!🍁🌲☃❄🌝✌
good interior quality in the Tundra but awful interior color. What were they thinking with bright red
You can put all you want in a toyota an will never be like a Raptor not even close
Raptor all day big ford fan
Raptor is the benchmark of PU trucks.
Toyota needs an interior design team that’s up to date with tech
R u upto date 😂😂😂
Ford literally has the dumbest interiors
You do realize that Lexus is owned by Toyota right
But…..cam phasers….
Cool trucks
TRD and TRD Pro I’m going to say means happy thoughts in Japanese.
Ok....throw the R in now......😆
I have the numbers. 3k for at least 35" - Method 305s and Tires (Wildpeaks or w/e). 5.5k installed king 2.5 shocks (not live valve or 3.0) with Billet UCA (mazzulla). 2k aftermarket bumper (say good bye to warranty) - No remote start or navigation this requires subscription. so give or take off by 5k with no mark up assumed. Is the raptor worth the extra 5k....yes.....
Raptor looks good to go offroad. Toyota tundra TRD pro looks awesome to take the Toyota tundra TRD pro go back and forth to work truck
Tundra all the way ❤️💪💪😎
Forcing hybrid and losing underwear rear storage for me on the tundra is a no go from the beginning.
Otherwise, raptors better pretty much all around.
OH and Toyota, STOP IT with the generic ass gray headliner 🤢
I think this version of the Toyota Tundra will be short lived.
TRX>RaptorR>Raptor>ZR2>Toyota IMO
Titan Pro4x !!!! i am bias
Raptor is a flashy girlfriend who got a lot of problems,cost too much money spending too much times in the shop . TRD PRO is the women who you married to.
FYI : I’m currently owned 2019 Ford-150 Raptor and been owned 3 Toyota Tundra for 19 years before Raptor.
Play back speed @ 1.5X thank me later
Dude get a haircut 😂
The TRD Pro doesn’t even have a true locker… and I think the last gen looks much better
very biased review. have you personally owned a trd for a over a year??
May be a bit biased as he owns one, but fact is the Tundra is lacking in numerous areas. Especially against a Raptor. Even against the F150 Tremor the Tundra Pro is lacking in capabilities
🔥👈
Raptor, Tundra is very cheap technology
Speak clear and slowly @@&$$&$&@
I feel, I feel, I feel......I like, I like, I like, pretty useful comparison, get yourself an IPA and stick to art instead of "objective" comparison videos.
The TRD pro is a woman's truck and a raptor is a man's truck that's the difference
It’s a damn good thing see changes aren’t frowned upon then! Time to become a woman.
I’ll take the Tundra and take that $16,000 for all the upgrades I want and that in turn will make it the more superior truck. Do a 2 inch lift kit, wider fenders, long travel shock system, wider tires and a possible supercharger. It maybe a little more than $16k but I know that my Toyota will outlast the Ford three times over.
😂😂😂😂
Show us where "$16k" gets you 14" front and 15" rear suspension travel out of a tundra. Including the fox shocks, stiffer frame, and fenders to tuck the tires. LOL
(Also, the suspension travel I listed is for the 35" Raptor model.
At that point the price difference would only be $7k 💀)
The moment you listed “a lift kit” ya lost all credibility lol
Is he looking at the same truck? I must say the tundra is by far the ugliest truck i have ever seen,not a single angle that looks even ok..
I Love Both,But I Love The Raptor More!.Am Loving The Azure Grey Colour