That's funny, this is the first video where I noticed Penn's voice as the announcer, and now here's your comment. Then again, most of the clips I've seen don't include the show intro.
Magicain: which hand would you like to be safe Alice: the right one Magicain: so we're going to put the right hand In the bear trap Erm something doesn't seem right here
If she said "stop" right away he would truly have had his both hands on apparently "set" traps, it would be idiot of him to actually try and perform a trick where he could end up hurt;
That's what I thought, but all the other traps were set so if they had stopped anywhere else, he would have put both hands in danger. Unless the next thing he did was eliminate those 2 traps. Or, maybe there is just a safe way to make it look like you are setting the trap off, but it doesn't actually do anything. In that way, he could act like he was tripping any trap and it wouldn't actually trip. Or maybe they are gimmicked and the white bone is some sort of electronic device that is the only way to really trigger the traps.
There is a formula. still trying to figure it out. something like no sugar for 5 hours before bed, no coffee cocoa.carbs..and just the right amount of time asleep, not too little not too much..The day someone figures out a machine or program that can perfect the formula and advice each individual, they will be a trillionare.
The word of importance from Penn here was "equivocate". That let him know that they knew exactly ho it was done. If the hostess said stop on his very first hand placements he would have been screwed, however he was talking through it so it appeared she had the choice to stop him. After that point he had one hand over the safe trap at all times. Depending on whether or not she said to keep the left or right "safe" you can interpret that in either way and always end up setting off the safe trap.
@@MrEtown87 also if she would stop why he was over two unsafe traps.. he would said something like.. lets take those two away... or something to that effect.. he probably has that option as a backup plan...
Could be magician's choice. Or, since Penn said "you had a live TRAP (singular)", could be the very first trap he triggered for demonstration was live and the rest were secured with pins connected to a string. Once he put his hand into the trap, he reached for a bone while pulling out all the pins, making the traps live, and then set off the rest of the traps. I believe if he tested the "safe" trap in the last act, it would trigger, as well.
That or a person under the table pulls all pins to activate all traps, but after he has already pushed "the unset" trap. Then he does not need to try to perform any slight of hand. Pen specifically talks about having a person "back stage" "holding them in place", making sure the traps stay set. IDK why all these people in the comment section are talking about the magician forcing the choice, that seems blatantly off to me.
I've read Penns books and seen some interviews, so the second I saw he had animal traps I knew he wasn't going to fool them, but he got me and it was a great trick
Penn has said on many occasions that he finds it immoral to have any ACTUAL danger in an act, and I highly doubt it would be allowed on their show. So the challenge became determining how the traps were rigged to be safe until he deactivated the safety mechanism to "prove" the danger. Knowing their old "King of Animal Traps" routine, that's something Penn figured out possibly before the trick began. Still fun to watch!
I think there are clamps on all of the traps so her choice doesn't matter, after touching the one she chooses, as he reaches under the table for the bones he releases the clamps.
Sound logical. I was thinking on why they always had a new prop bone for each and not just chop the same a couple of times, but now I think that that just gives a natural reason to reach under the table.
This was my first thought. I have quite a few animal traps and I paused the top-down view at 4:24 and these look like legit Duke #2 coil-spring traps to me. First, these are not kill traps. They're meant to restrain animals without breaking a limb, so despite his dramatic demonstration of smashing bone (I have no idea what that stuff was he used to simulate bone), a #2 spring trap would have left him very sore for a few weeks maybe, but not break his bones. Second, as far as rigging this type of trap with a hidden variable safety switch to control mechanically is pretty impossible based on my experience working with them. I can't imagine how he'd rig all of them without causing the dog-pan latches to move under tension when the springs engage. I think he just made sure he kept a hand over the dummy at all times until she said stop.
@@ShiftingDrifter if you watch closely he didn't keep his hand over the final one, that was the first thing I watched for. Also, that's not what Penn said he did, so if that had been the trick he would have fooled them. I imagine that he had something other than the pan catch actually holding them, something that couldn't be released unless the mechanism under the table was activated, and the pans were just dummies that hit the real release underneath them so that you couldn't see the tension change. Penn clearly said that the trick was done with clamps behind the table, and so that's how it was done! Lol And if you think about it, it would not be hard to set up a trigger mechanism that was locked from moving with a pin coming up from below, like a safety blocking the trigger on a gun. So no tension would change between being active and being on Safe, just a change of whether the release could actually operate.
ahh, cheers to You for that comment. I don't use "LOL", infact I rather detest the acronym. However, in this instance it's rather apt. I can fully attest to having had, indeed: LOL
Yup. Really simple trick. The way he words it, both hands could be safe. 1. Being safe could mean the hand is not in danger if he pushes down with the hand of choice 2. Being safe could also mean the hand is not in danger if he DOESN'T push down with hand of choice. Therefore, he would push down with the other hand. (Which would be the fake trap) He always has one hand over the fake trap. So it never mattered where allison told him to stop. As stated earlier, both hands are "safe hands".
Some people below said he has a "moving" story. So depends on where the stop, he can pick a different story to say. That's one way I suppose. But another one is how it's activated. Each trap has either a slow or fast way to activate it. It's probably marked on it. So he wants to do the opposite of activate action with his hand with the other traps, he would hit it hard or slow to activate it.
One possible way to do this trick: He always had one of his hands above the correct trap. And then asked rather ambivalent question (hand can be safe by hitting the correct trap or be safe as not used to touch the trap). This way he could have 5 fully fuctional traps without any magnets or anything like that.
Matěj Knopp I even got confused when he used his right, should not be safe means to not use it at all. I had to rewind to make sure that Alison has picked right. So yes, his question do not have on correct answer
@@MrMshFaker He used a trick called magician's choice. He made safe the loaded trap by using a bone, then saying his hand was safe. The hand was safe using the bone on a loaded trap. Reaching under the table he could have easily disarmed any trap.
Honestly how I would do this trick, and I used to be a magician, would be to design a powerful magnet, or something in my pocket with a radiowave or frequency, that moves a bearing inside of the trap preventing it from being activated.
All the traps were safe to begin. When he reaches under the table and gets a bone and he triggers-sets that bear trap to spring. This is the second way to do this trick
So he reached under one time and moved 6 magnets that were somehow strong enough to keep those traps from going off without anyone noticing or wondering what took so long? No way. Have you ever set one of those traps yourself? They're crazy strong man
"She asked for the right hand to be saved. The only possible interpretation of that would be for him to place his left hand into the bear trap. It made 0 sense." After being explained a different perspective it does indeed make sense. I just thought of it differently. Apologies, my bad
Chill bro. That's what dangerous stunts are about. He purposely did that to create more tension. she wanted the right hand to be safe and risking it would add spice to the show
@@alexismandelias I'm not sure. I just felt that it needed to be worded differently to be more vague/ambiguous. However I can't think of what he should have said instead - so maybe what he said was the best way of saying it 🤷♂️ The force could have been done via a completely different method, other than just voice. Like using envelopes or something To me it felt like he said one thing, but did the complete opposite.
@@alexismandelias but thinking about it... If Allison had of said "save the left" hand the trick would have been really good. It's a shame she said right
(Posting before Penn's comments) Don't usually try and guess a trick, but I think it might be a magnet or something in the bone prop that activates a switch in the trap making it live.
Nothing wrong with Alyson. I liked Johnathon Ross better. JR has a huge amount of television experience including being a talk show host on several shows. That experience equated to being a good front man and interviewer. In the early seasons that were done in England. His popularity were used introduced Penn and Teller to a wider audience.
Her jokes are kinda non existant,she can't match Jonathan Ross in any way,shape or form. Rarely says anything that's not sort of "bland" and just isn't interesting overall. She also has this mildly irritating slightly "I'm constipated" face every time she is involved in an act. I don't dislike her,she's just kinda average,just good enough to be the host I guess.
The question "which hand do you want to be safe" meant he could pick either hand. I think he really just had traps set and moved his hands in a way that there was always one on the safe trap.
Penn literally said he was working with LIVE traps... Only one of them was not... look at his hands... even though he moves them around there is always one hand on top of the safe one... bones have nothing to do with it!!
I think what I liked best about this one was, I've seen tricks like this done before where the magician is edgy and kind of a jackass and ratchets up the tension. Will's reassuring tone both made this easier to watch, but also more nerve-wracking, because I actually didn't want to see him get hurt!
What I Noticed is that when he told Alyson to stop, his one hand was always on the trap which was not live and also the net question he asked to Alyson is that "Which hand do you want to be safe?" if Alyson could have picked the hand with live trap he would have simply saved the hand and put other hand on the trap, and if she picked the other hand like she actually did he simply put it on the trap. whatever she says he would have put the hand on the same trap.
Is there a name for this type of trick? I've seen variations of it a lot lately. Where the trick is set up where the Magician knows which one is safe and which one is dangerous, but they have someone else pick a number or pull a lever to activate the death trap. The version I see is usually a series of boxes and you don't know which one has a person inside it before the box is destroyed.
It was a magician's choice. If she would have said "stop" when his hands were over two set traps, he would have gone into some spiel about removing them and continuing. She said it when his hands were over a safe trap, so he could skip that part. The next bit is him just giving her a false choice over which hand is "safe". If she would have said left, he would have said something about making it "safe" and taking his hand off of it before pressing down with his right hand regardless. It was just a false choice based on using wording with double meaning. One of the problems is that his script with the hand choice needs work, the wording doesn't sound natural this way.
Yes, he said which hand do you want to be safe, as in which trap won't make him lose a hand, and she said the right, so he pressed the right trap, since that's the trap Alyson said was safe.
I saw that too, but that's not how tricks like this work. He didn't just get lucky that she stopped over the right one, more or less. It is something like a magnet is required to trip the trap and a little magnet is placed on the ends of the bones. P&T have said MANY times that they don't allow tricks that are actually dangerous.
@@gtperman Degrelecence Which means either the magician would use a device such as you suggested, or his routine is engineered so he just does not stick his hand where it's dangerous (for example by NOT shuffling them the way they do with the spike-in-paper-bag trick). If they guessed on equivoque (magician's choice) and it wasn't the case that the magician actually interpreted Alyson's answer the way HE chose to interpret it, then he'd have been a fooler and would have left with a trophy.
+Malfehzan So you are saying Penn's key word was equivocate and that was to imply an interpreted answer? I guess that makes sense. It isn't like he shuffled the traps or anything.
Fun fact, those traps WOULD snap chalk shaped like bones. They however would only break a finger or something. They don't hurt all that bad. Personal experience being a furtaker growing up. Conibear traps, however, will FUCK your day up. The traps he is using were designed with deer in mind, not to catch them, but for them to set them off, and slip out of them, hence the lack of teeth on the jaws.
this magic trick is soo easy. first, he kept his right hand on the trap that is not set and kept moving the other hand around the traps that are really set. once she says "stop", he will always be left with the right hand on the safe trap and the left hand on a set trap. then he uses what we call the magician's choice. for example if she chose his left hand to be safe, he would remove it from on the trap saying that it's safe being away from any trap, and if she chooses the right hand like she did, he would do what he did here.
There's a sinkling gliptarg on the front of each roafter rodmack, which retracts when he raises his hands as there are yanglays concealed in his poturdin. If you look closely at 8:19 you'll see the front fildrag from the hidden gliptarg, slightly concealed by the tumming tortal baink that links the archebit rodmacks with the farrndle helphadrat. Hope that clarifies things.
goldeneddie I know this trick and can promise you that no yanglays are involved, concealed or otherwise (to give you a clue of the real method, slow the video down and look closely just behind the rodmack furthest to the left). Other than that, you’re pretty much right. I’m glad Penn didn’t ruin the trick by revealing this to the audience though!
Easiest but dangerous trick on pen and teller....he always had one hand on the safe trap(you can see that) and when he asked Alyson's choice he had both option if she said she wants to save left than also he was gonna hit right and if Alyson chosed right he was gonna hit right....
Penn gave the answer to how it was done, just listen to what he says. So, Will could have disabled which ever of the live traps he needed to disable, very simply in fact. Penn said "we believe you had a live trap up there" Indeed, it was live until he disabled it, nothing to do with guessing or mentalism.
Can we just appreciate how the must magical part of Fool Us is how magicians understand the secret language Penn uses to let them know they how they did the trick?
There is no special mechanic to the Traps or the Bones. It's about the question he asks. "Do you want the right or the left to be save". The most difficult Part of the Trick is to always hover one of the Hands over the save trap. BTW he can distinguish them by some means of visual cue or because they are set up like he needs them to. So, back to the question. It doesn't matter what she says. He can reason it with the answer. She said the Right hand should be saved so he triggers the save trap with his Right Hand. If she would have said the Left Hand should be the saved one, he would trigger the Right Handed one because she was right, thats the one he needs to save.
This is a really easy trick. He used two hands, so one can be right near or over the safe trap at all times and the other one moving to make it look like he's randomly moving his hands around. And he just quickly puts it over the safe one when she yells stop. His right hand was over the fourth trap, and right before she says stop, he moved it to the safe one which was right next to the one he had it over. If it went longer, he would have just kept moving his right hand over the safe one and the one right next to the safe one. So, even if he was over the unsafe one, he could move his hand over the safe one before she is done saying stop. Then he asked which one she wants to be safe, and she said the right hand, which meant she wanted him to put his left hand in the trap, but he said, "ok, you want my right hand to be safe so let's test the trap under my right hand." The way he words the question he could put his hand over the safe trap down no matter which one she says.
No, there legitimately was only one safe trap and the magician knew which one was safe. If Allison had asked to keep the other hand safe, he would have done so by removing the trap. If Allison had told him to stop over two unsafe traps, he would have removed both traps.
Does keeping a hand safe mean, "let's remove the trap under the hand!" or does it mean, "ok, the hand you selected is safe!" Well, that depends on which hand Allison chooses.
Somebody in the back using some sort of mechanism which prevents the trap from closing, hence what Penn was talking about when he said" they are so dangerous having them around backstage they clamp on people "holding them in place"".
The tip is in the use of Penn's wording, "equivocate," use ambiguous language so as to conceal the truth or avoid committing oneself. In other words, they knew his hand wouldn't be in real jeopardy so long as he has a means of control. I can't tell if it's the traps themselves or if it's a suggested trick on Allyson. But it wouldn't surprise me if there is some fancy tech involved to make it all more convincing.
He always has one hand over the safe trap, then when Alyson says "stop" he asks her to make an ambiguous choice so that he can select the hand over the safe trap while making it seem like Alyson made the choice.
Obviously when allysson had to choose which hand to keep safe he wanted her to choose the left hand, then he would have said: "Okey, and take it away from over the trap" but since she said right hand he had to activate the trap anyways to make the trick valid so he simply said "ok ill test the trap so my hand can be safe" - thus the "bad wording" all in the trick.
@@Heeman1119 true... thought he would have "forced" the decision for the trap, misdirecting + moving his hands. But ye the bones are probably magnetic or something
@@ShamrockNRoller time misdirection. He had his hands everywhere until the moment he asked her to say stop. You remember "he had his hands everywhere".
*ALL* traps can be safe or active. He has to go behind his stand to grab what ever he uses to set them off. He simple triggers or deactivates something while he is back there.
No, he used equivocation, that's why Penn said "We're not going to equivocate" as his hint, and said all the traps were legitimately dangerous. When he asked "Which hand do you want to be safe" that question in no way allows Allison to determine which hand he uses to activate the traps. She could have said right or left, and with clever wordplay he could have either kept the correct hand safe by using it to trigger the trap, thus, once shown not to be the 'real' trap it was safe (As he did), OR alternatively if it was an 'active' trap he could have said "Good choice because if you had put this hand in jeopardy, it would be maimed" and tested the trap with a bone, thus showing it to be the active trap, and her choice NOT to put it in danger being the correct one. For acts where a decision is made in magic you always have to check carefully to see if the decision is REALLY the participants, or if the statements are ambiguous enough to allow re-interpretation. As pointed out in other comments, acts like this are fairly immoral since those traps are truly dangerous, and live. Allison could have been hurt, and while the Magician knew which was which, and was no doubt intentionally careful, it is 'possible' for accidents to happen, and him to truly be maimed. Penn is notably not fond of such tricks, and generally speaking, what he said about the tricks going wrong 'eventually' it's just a matter of time, is actually true in these cases. It may be the case that he goes a long time with no issues, but something as stupid as tripping on stage into the table could be disastrous, and is not the sort of thing you can 'predict' whether for yourself, or just a clumsy participant. It's stupid, reckless, and really not terribly advisable or worth it given alternative ways to do the same trick.
"You want the right hand to be safe" * proceeds to press the right hand into the trap * It's a little unfortunate that she didn't choose the left, because this really exposed the intentional vagueness of the phrasing. If I said I wanted the right hand to be safe, I would be telling you to press the left hand down, keeping the right hand safe from harm. You also gave away that more than one trap was loaded by saying both hands could be in peril.
No. *SPOILERS AHEAD* Pay attention to the word equivocate Penn mentioned. All but one he touched were set. When he asked Alison which hand she wanted to be safe, it would be interpreted either as "which hand shall I _not press_ against a trap in order to not risk losing it" or "which hand shall I _press_ against a trap to prove it is _not_ set". This way, whichever hand Alison chose, the trick would work. Also note how he kept one hand over the un-set trap after telling Alison to say stop therefore ensuring success.
Something about this particular segment seems super edited. The trick itself is not (I know they have to show tricks to another magician etc) but I am talking about audience reactions. You can hear applause while the crowd is dead still.
Rhewin ever since CW took over production in S2, they’ve put really bad canned applause/laughter/reactions over the whole show - they’re not even trying to make it subtle!
Just curious... Let's do a survey: When Allison said "Right", did you think the left or right hand should have been placed in a trap. Reply your answer please. (This will hopefully be helpful for anyone doing a trick like this in the future)
2A Forever, it's equivocation, which is basically just a magician's choice. she said his right hand should be safe, which can be taken both ways. either press with left and keep right out of the trap or press with right and show trap is disarmed.
p&t dont like these kinds of tricks, because either theyre set up and forced, or the magician is stupid enough to actually put themselves at danger, which is a massive massive no no in p&ts eyes. Im assuming thats why he was upset
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Lmao I love how Penn introduces Alyson to introduce Penn and Teller.
Eric 😆
That's funny, this is the first video where I noticed Penn's voice as the announcer, and now here's your comment. Then again, most of the clips I've seen don't include the show intro.
Cost cutting
epic misdirection
She is so adorable
Lol I've never seen the full Fool us intro before
@@ryanhenrydean1584 I could not, since I am too lazy to look up a full episode. Where can I find one, if you'd be so kind?
@@theswanp1199 If you search "Fool Us season" followed by the season number you'll typically find a few uploads of episodes in that season.
Same, knew this would be in the comment section somewhere but didn't expect the #1 comment lol
@@theswanp1199 if you have on demand u can search it and it'll come up on the CW network
Magicain: which hand would you like to be safe
Alice: the right one
Magicain: so we're going to put the right hand In the bear trap
Erm something doesn't seem right here
TRAP 101 she was supposed to look for the trap that WASN’T set, so the one that would be safe, so it does make sense
Penn's use of the word "equivocate" is the key. Will was never clear about what it meant for Alison to choose a hand as safe.
@@fedos Yup, it was a type of "force"
If she said "stop" right away he would truly have had his both hands on apparently "set" traps, it would be idiot of him to actually try and perform a trick where he could end up hurt;
That's what I thought, but all the other traps were set so if they had stopped anywhere else, he would have put both hands in danger. Unless the next thing he did was eliminate those 2 traps. Or, maybe there is just a safe way to make it look like you are setting the trap off, but it doesn't actually do anything. In that way, he could act like he was tripping any trap and it wouldn't actually trip. Or maybe they are gimmicked and the white bone is some sort of electronic device that is the only way to really trigger the traps.
Pretty certain he was using real bones from his human victims.
I was in the audience for this episode. I remember seeing Will at the Wonderground. I honestly think he is at his best with close up magic.
At my age getting up in the morning is the greatest trick.
There is a formula. still trying to figure it out. something like no sugar for 5 hours before bed, no coffee cocoa.carbs..and just the right amount of time asleep, not too little not too much..The day someone figures out a machine or program that can perfect the formula and advice each individual, they will be a trillionare.
One of the tihngs I love about these segments is trying to figure out Penn's code
"out -- right"
Did he say it multiple times?
Equivocate lol
The word of importance from Penn here was "equivocate". That let him know that they knew exactly ho it was done.
If the hostess said stop on his very first hand placements he would have been screwed, however he was talking through it so it appeared she had the choice to stop him. After that point he had one hand over the safe trap at all times. Depending on whether or not she said to keep the left or right "safe" you can interpret that in either way and always end up setting off the safe trap.
@@MrEtown87 also if she would stop why he was over two unsafe traps.. he would said something like.. lets take those two away... or something to that effect.. he probably has that option as a backup plan...
In the beginning he says Harry Potter influences him and he looks like he could be in that universe, the way he moves, his outfit. Great guy
Could be magician's choice. Or, since Penn said "you had a live TRAP (singular)", could be the very first trap he triggered for demonstration was live and the rest were secured with pins connected to a string. Once he put his hand into the trap, he reached for a bone while pulling out all the pins, making the traps live, and then set off the rest of the traps. I believe if he tested the "safe" trap in the last act, it would trigger, as well.
That or a person under the table pulls all pins to activate all traps, but after he has already pushed "the unset" trap. Then he does not need to try to perform any slight of hand. Pen specifically talks about having a person "back stage" "holding them in place", making sure the traps stay set. IDK why all these people in the comment section are talking about the magician forcing the choice, that seems blatantly off to me.
I've read Penns books and seen some interviews, so the second I saw he had animal traps I knew he wasn't going to fool them, but he got me and it was a great trick
Penn has said on many occasions that he finds it immoral to have any ACTUAL danger in an act, and I highly doubt it would be allowed on their show.
So the challenge became determining how the traps were rigged to be safe until he deactivated the safety mechanism to "prove" the danger. Knowing their old "King of Animal Traps" routine, that's something Penn figured out possibly before the trick began.
Still fun to watch!
Young and not depressed Dylan Moran doing magic trick, pretty good.
First thing I thought. Didnt watch the video just flicked straight to the comments to make sure I wasnt mental
I think there are clamps on all of the traps so her choice doesn't matter, after touching the one she chooses, as he reaches under the table for the bones he releases the clamps.
Sound logical. I was thinking on why they always had a new prop bone for each and not just chop the same a couple of times, but now I think that that just gives a natural reason to reach under the table.
This was my first thought. I have quite a few animal traps and I paused the top-down view at 4:24 and these look like legit Duke #2 coil-spring traps to me. First, these are not kill traps. They're meant to restrain animals without breaking a limb, so despite his dramatic demonstration of smashing bone (I have no idea what that stuff was he used to simulate bone), a #2 spring trap would have left him very sore for a few weeks maybe, but not break his bones. Second, as far as rigging this type of trap with a hidden variable safety switch to control mechanically is pretty impossible based on my experience working with them. I can't imagine how he'd rig all of them without causing the dog-pan latches to move under tension when the springs engage. I think he just made sure he kept a hand over the dummy at all times until she said stop.
@@ShiftingDrifter if you watch closely he didn't keep his hand over the final one, that was the first thing I watched for.
Also, that's not what Penn said he did, so if that had been the trick he would have fooled them.
I imagine that he had something other than the pan catch actually holding them, something that couldn't be released unless the mechanism under the table was activated, and the pans were just dummies that hit the real release underneath them so that you couldn't see the tension change.
Penn clearly said that the trick was done with clamps behind the table, and so that's how it was done! Lol
And if you think about it, it would not be hard to set up a trigger mechanism that was locked from moving with a pin coming up from below, like a safety blocking the trigger on a gun.
So no tension would change between being active and being on Safe, just a change of whether the release could actually operate.
I Just Love P&T.
Can always enjoy the show.
Thanks..
$20 says that guy eats people.
watch wrong turn the 1st movie not the other ones
alison was on buffy she fights the vampires who eat people so don't worry alison is there to stop any vampires
GrowingDownUnder possibly; but Alison 'lost' it a couple times and almost ended the world on Buffy so it could be a 50/50 shot
Nom nom nom?
ahh, cheers to You for that comment. I don't use "LOL", infact I rather detest the acronym. However, in this instance it's rather apt.
I can fully attest to having had, indeed: LOL
His banter is excellent.
Yup. Really simple trick. The way he words it, both hands could be safe.
1. Being safe could mean the hand is not in danger if he pushes down with the hand of choice
2. Being safe could also mean the hand is not in danger if he DOESN'T push down with hand of choice. Therefore, he would push down with the other hand. (Which would be the fake trap)
He always has one hand over the fake trap. So it never mattered where allison told him to stop. As stated earlier, both hands are "safe hands".
He did an animal trap bit for someone who did a bit called “The King of Animal Traps”
Seems like a wise choice... 😂
From this tv appearance he is now the host of lostspiritsdistillery in Vegas.
Allyson is a wonderful host. Her ad libed parting words were a very nice touch
Penn gave it away when he said "Equivocate"
I love how aggresivly focused penn is constantly
Some people below said he has a "moving" story. So depends on where the stop, he can pick a different story to say. That's one way I suppose.
But another one is how it's activated. Each trap has either a slow or fast way to activate it. It's probably marked on it. So he wants to do the opposite of activate action with his hand with the other traps, he would hit it hard or slow to activate it.
I didnt know Griffin from Men in Black 3 was into magic, hes pretty good. But thats easy when you can see the future.
😂
One possible way to do this trick: He always had one of his hands above the correct trap. And then asked rather ambivalent question (hand can be safe by hitting the correct trap or be safe as not used to touch the trap). This way he could have 5 fully fuctional traps without any magnets or anything like that.
Matěj Knopp I even got confused when he used his right, should not be safe means to not use it at all. I had to rewind to make sure that Alison has picked right. So yes, his question do not have on correct answer
Think you’re totally on to something there
@@MrMshFaker He used a trick called magician's choice.
He made safe the loaded trap by using a bone, then saying his hand was safe.
The hand was safe using the bone on a loaded trap.
Reaching under the table he could have easily disarmed any trap.
My theory is there's a spot where it's harmless. All of them are both harmless and dangerous at the same time.
Well, just a theory. I tried.
Honestly how I would do this trick, and I used to be a magician, would be to design a powerful magnet, or something in my pocket with a radiowave or frequency, that moves a bearing inside of the trap preventing it from being activated.
i saw so many episodes of fool us and for the first time i knew straight away how u did it :D
It was so clear. he knows how to change the positions of his hands. You can see how he changed them until one position becomes safe.
MM MM huh?
Magician: Which hand would you like to be safe?
Alison: The right.
Left Hand: Am I a joke to you?
All the traps were safe to begin.
When he reaches under the table and gets a bone and
he triggers-sets that bear trap to spring. This is the second way to do this trick
i think that they're probably controlled from above. ( ? )
These traps don't work that way
Reaching under the table and move a magnet out of the way. This allows the trap to go off. Otherwise they are all safe until he reaches.
So he reached under one time and moved 6 magnets that were somehow strong enough to keep those traps from going off without anyone noticing or wondering what took so long? No way. Have you ever set one of those traps yourself? They're crazy strong man
@@justinwbohner I don't think magnets are reliable as you're imagining them to be...
"She asked for the right hand to be saved. The only possible interpretation of that would be for him to place his left hand into the bear trap.
It made 0 sense."
After being explained a different perspective it does indeed make sense. I just thought of it differently. Apologies, my bad
Chill bro. That's what dangerous stunts are about. He purposely did that to create more tension. she wanted the right hand to be safe and risking it would add spice to the show
I mean how else are you going to force the right hand?
@@alexismandelias I'm not sure. I just felt that it needed to be worded differently to be more vague/ambiguous. However I can't think of what he should have said instead - so maybe what he said was the best way of saying it 🤷♂️
The force could have been done via a completely different method, other than just voice. Like using envelopes or something
To me it felt like he said one thing, but did the complete opposite.
@@kevintoner6068 actually yes now that you mentioned it, there are plenty of (maybe better) ways to force apart from voice. Indeed it sounded awkward
@@alexismandelias but thinking about it...
If Allison had of said "save the left" hand the trick would have been really good.
It's a shame she said right
For a second there I thought that he was going to make one of Alyson's hands be in danger of getting snapped by the trap
Appealing to Penn’s love of animal traps
Somehow this guy reminds me a dolphin, especially here 2:24 ;D
Alison, straight up was going to snap off his left hand lol
At any given moment he had one hand over the safe trap.
No, in fact not until the last move did he
@@CASEMSTR My guess is if she had called "stop" when his hands were over live traps, he would have said "okay, so we eliminate these two..."
Well that's a perfect storytelling.
Good on allison for playing along
(Posting before Penn's comments) Don't usually try and guess a trick, but I think it might be a magnet or something in the bone prop that activates a switch in the trap making it live.
It is even easier than that.
Alyson is amazing! I really don't know why people don't like her :(
1. Some are misogynistic, 2. Alyson had the misfortune to follow Jonathan Ross.
I think Alyson is a lovely young lady. I am sure plenty of people do like her!
I actually prefer Alyson, but that is not said with any hate for Mr. Ross.
Nothing wrong with Alyson.
I liked Johnathon Ross better.
JR has a huge amount of television experience including being a talk show host on several shows.
That experience equated to being a good front man and interviewer.
In the early seasons that were done in England. His popularity were used introduced Penn and Teller to a wider audience.
Her jokes are kinda non existant,she can't match Jonathan Ross in any way,shape or form.
Rarely says anything that's not sort of "bland" and just isn't interesting overall.
She also has this mildly irritating slightly "I'm constipated" face every time she is involved in an act.
I don't dislike her,she's just kinda average,just good enough to be the host I guess.
There's an old saying, "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach". It is seldom ever true. But in this case...
The question "which hand do you want to be safe" meant he could pick either hand. I think he really just had traps set and moved his hands in a way that there was always one on the safe trap.
my conclusion was the same
Yup, notice how he didn't allow Allyson to say stop until he had his right hand on the safe trap.
Fooled me. Idk how you put yourself in danger like that but it was a great show!
pictures of that polish magician who failed his nail trick were running through my head
Now i have that woman's screaming in my head=)
Thanks
All traps are safe by default. They can only be triggered those "bones" which probably had a magnet inside to trigger some mechanism behind the traps.
or they have a tiny wire that closes an electric circuit when the bones touch the pedal
Penn literally said he was working with LIVE traps... Only one of them was not... look at his hands... even though he moves them around there is always one hand on top of the safe one... bones have nothing to do with it!!
I think what I liked best about this one was, I've seen tricks like this done before where the magician is edgy and kind of a jackass and ratchets up the tension. Will's reassuring tone both made this easier to watch, but also more nerve-wracking, because I actually didn't want to see him get hurt!
What I Noticed is that when he told Alyson to stop, his one hand was always on the trap which was not live and also the net question he asked to Alyson is that "Which hand do you want to be safe?" if Alyson could have picked the hand with live trap he would have simply saved the hand and put other hand on the trap, and if she picked the other hand like she actually did he simply put it on the trap. whatever she says he would have put the hand on the same trap.
Could be a sensor in the bone, could be the central panel only goes off in these special traps if it is tilted a certain way
All the traps were set to spring, he touched the trap in the right way for it to not spring
Is there a name for this type of trick? I've seen variations of it a lot lately. Where the trick is set up where the Magician knows which one is safe and which one is dangerous, but they have someone else pick a number or pull a lever to activate the death trap.
The version I see is usually a series of boxes and you don't know which one has a person inside it before the box is destroyed.
Spike cup.
"Equivocate", "out-RIGHT", and he raised and repeatedly waved his RIGHT hand.
No that’s not what they meant, they meant he kept one hand hovering over the safe trap which was the definition of it
It was a magician's choice. If she would have said "stop" when his hands were over two set traps, he would have gone into some spiel about removing them and continuing. She said it when his hands were over a safe trap, so he could skip that part. The next bit is him just giving her a false choice over which hand is "safe". If she would have said left, he would have said something about making it "safe" and taking his hand off of it before pressing down with his right hand regardless. It was just a false choice based on using wording with double meaning. One of the problems is that his script with the hand choice needs work, the wording doesn't sound natural this way.
This seems correct - it was very strange that she picked the right hand to be safe, and then he put that hand into the trap!
I know what he meant but I didn't want to give away the trick in my comment. I was just saying what part of Penn's response was the code.
the white bone sticks look suspicions
Suspicious*
yes!
Yeah, they look odd, but some traps really can snap your bones like twigs. Leg hold, body grip, they're no joke.
Allyson said his right hand was to keep safe yet he touched the trap lol
Yes, he said which hand do you want to be safe, as in which trap won't make him lose a hand, and she said the right, so he pressed the right trap, since that's the trap Alyson said was safe.
That was a poor choice of words for an equivoque.
I saw that too, but that's not how tricks like this work. He didn't just get lucky that she stopped over the right one, more or less. It is something like a magnet is required to trip the trap and a little magnet is placed on the ends of the bones. P&T have said MANY times that they don't allow tricks that are actually dangerous.
@@gtperman Degrelecence Which means either the magician would use a device such as you suggested, or his routine is engineered so he just does not stick his hand where it's dangerous (for example by NOT shuffling them the way they do with the spike-in-paper-bag trick).
If they guessed on equivoque (magician's choice) and it wasn't the case that the magician actually interpreted Alyson's answer the way HE chose to interpret it, then he'd have been a fooler and would have left with a trophy.
+Malfehzan So you are saying Penn's key word was equivocate and that was to imply an interpreted answer? I guess that makes sense. It isn't like he shuffled the traps or anything.
Fun fact, those traps WOULD snap chalk shaped like bones.
They however would only break a finger or something. They don't hurt all that bad. Personal experience being a furtaker growing up.
Conibear traps, however, will FUCK your day up.
The traps he is using were designed with deer in mind, not to catch them, but for them to set them off, and slip out of them, hence the lack of teeth on the jaws.
The Lewis Capaldi of Magicians 😂
this magic trick is soo easy. first, he kept his right hand on the trap that is not set and kept moving the other hand around the traps that are really set. once she says "stop", he will always be left with the right hand on the safe trap and the left hand on a set trap. then he uses what we call the magician's choice. for example if she chose his left hand to be safe, he would remove it from on the trap saying that it's safe being away from any trap, and if she chooses the right hand like she did, he would do what he did here.
If you watch it again you'll see he didn't always have his hand over the 'safe' trap
oh c'mon
so far...the easiet magic to debunk
Fairly certain the music playing over this trick is the menu music for COD 4 MW
It was
There's a sinkling gliptarg on the front of each roafter rodmack, which retracts when he raises his hands as there are yanglays concealed in his poturdin. If you look closely at 8:19 you'll see the front fildrag from the hidden gliptarg, slightly concealed by the tumming tortal baink that links the archebit rodmacks with the farrndle helphadrat. Hope that clarifies things.
8:19 ? Wtf
Huh?
Lol. I thought for a second you were being serious then the time, 8:19, gave it away that this is invented gibberish.
@@markc1551 Ahhh at last, someone gets it! Thanks Mark! Just so many daft and convoluted explanations of tricks on YT that I couldn't resist it....
goldeneddie I know this trick and can promise you that no yanglays are involved, concealed or otherwise (to give you a clue of the real method, slow the video down and look closely just behind the rodmack furthest to the left). Other than that, you’re pretty much right. I’m glad Penn didn’t ruin the trick by revealing this to the audience though!
Easiest but dangerous trick on pen and teller....he always had one hand on the safe trap(you can see that) and when he asked Alyson's choice he had both option if she said she wants to save left than also he was gonna hit right and if Alyson chosed right he was gonna hit right....
Penn gave the answer to how it was done, just listen to what he says. So, Will could have disabled which ever of the live traps he needed to disable, very simply in fact. Penn said "we believe you had a live trap up there" Indeed, it was live until he disabled it, nothing to do with guessing or mentalism.
I think he did it the other way. They were all disabled until he reached underneath the table to get the clay sticks.
Can we just appreciate how the must magical part of Fool Us is how magicians understand the secret language Penn uses to let them know they how they did the trick?
If the Joker was Mormon.
That guy could be the real life griff from MIB 3.
Save 2:15 and let the magic begin 😊
There is no special mechanic to the Traps or the Bones. It's about the question he asks. "Do you want the right or the left to be save". The most difficult Part of the Trick is to always hover one of the Hands over the save trap. BTW he can distinguish them by some means of visual cue or because they are set up like he needs them to. So, back to the question. It doesn't matter what she says. He can reason it with the answer. She said the Right hand should be saved so he triggers the save trap with his Right Hand. If she would have said the Left Hand should be the saved one, he would trigger the Right Handed one because she was right, thats the one he needs to save.
I DID wonder why he was putting the hand she wanted to "save" into a trap, and not the other way around. Of course it's a heads I win, tails you lose.
Magicans choice!
that cod4 music though
This is a really easy trick. He used two hands, so one can be right near or over the safe trap at all times and the other one moving to make it look like he's randomly moving his hands around. And he just quickly puts it over the safe one when she yells stop. His right hand was over the fourth trap, and right before she says stop, he moved it to the safe one which was right next to the one he had it over. If it went longer, he would have just kept moving his right hand over the safe one and the one right next to the safe one. So, even if he was over the unsafe one, he could move his hand over the safe one before she is done saying stop. Then he asked which one she wants to be safe, and she said the right hand, which meant she wanted him to put his left hand in the trap, but he said, "ok, you want my right hand to be safe so let's test the trap under my right hand." The way he words the question he could put his hand over the safe trap down no matter which one she says.
so what the keys are the bones? as he pulls them out he unlocks the set trap?
No, there legitimately was only one safe trap and the magician knew which one was safe. If Allison had asked to keep the other hand safe, he would have done so by removing the trap. If Allison had told him to stop over two unsafe traps, he would have removed both traps.
That's why Penn used the word "equivocate" to signal that he knows how the trick works.
Nope, he said which hand do you want to be safe. She picked right hand. He couldnt have changed. Try again
Does keeping a hand safe mean, "let's remove the trap under the hand!" or does it mean, "ok, the hand you selected is safe!" Well, that depends on which hand Allison chooses.
It's way simpler than that. Check the video. He always keeps a hand on top of the safe trap...
Somebody in the back using some sort of mechanism which prevents the trap from closing, hence what Penn was talking about when he said" they are so dangerous having them around backstage they clamp on people "holding them in place"".
...It's a trap!
Admiral Ackbar !
there's... too many of them.
I read this comment in the admiral's voice.
The tip is in the use of Penn's wording, "equivocate," use ambiguous language so as to conceal the truth or avoid committing oneself. In other words, they knew his hand wouldn't be in real jeopardy so long as he has a means of control. I can't tell if it's the traps themselves or if it's a suggested trick on Allyson. But it wouldn't surprise me if there is some fancy tech involved to make it all more convincing.
Might there be a person underneath? "we had people backstage"
He always has one hand over the safe trap, then when Alyson says "stop" he asks her to make an ambiguous choice so that he can select the hand over the safe trap while making it seem like Alyson made the choice.
I really like Will Bradshaw! I saw him perform every show at his first year at the Minnesota Ren Fest. I worked right behind him!
That particular trap looked different from the beginning.
To anyone who actually traps knows these traps won't damage your hand. Hurt, a little bit. But won't break bones or anything in your hand.
MAGNETS IN THE BONES TO ACTIVATE THE TRIGGER WHICH IS DOUBLE SET
probably a magnet on the end of the bone that set the trap off.
No he had all traps ready. He just always had a hand over the safe trap. Then no matter what alison said he could spin it to which ever way he wants
MW2 menu music lmao
she said, she wanted to save the right hand and he checked the right anyways. you can see how his right hand is always on top
Obviously when allysson had to choose which hand to keep safe he wanted her to choose the left hand, then he would have said: "Okey, and take it away from over the trap" but since she said right hand he had to activate the trap anyways to make the trick valid so he simply said "ok ill test the trap so my hand can be safe" - thus the "bad wording" all in the trick.
that was what i thought, untill he set literally all the other traps off too
@@Heeman1119 true... thought he would have "forced" the decision for the trap, misdirecting + moving his hands. But ye the bones are probably magnetic or something
7:35 - "We just want to say OUT RIGHT it was a great act" - The performer will always put his right hand above the disarmed trap.
will always put A hand. not necessarily the right one.
"...and we don't want to equivocate..." lol That choice of keywords probably wasn't the magician's :p
Except, he didn't always have a hand above the one he picked. The final one chosen didn't have either of his hands above it until she said stop.
@@ShamrockNRoller time misdirection. He had his hands everywhere until the moment he asked her to say stop. You remember "he had his hands everywhere".
They were all "live" traps once he removed the bone holding the CLAMPS in place.
Upvoting for for not putting spoilers or random capitalized superlatives in the title. A rare thing apparently.
*ALL* traps can be safe or active. He has to go behind his stand to grab what ever he uses to set them off.
He simple triggers or deactivates something while he is back there.
No, he used equivocation, that's why Penn said "We're not going to equivocate" as his hint, and said all the traps were legitimately dangerous. When he asked "Which hand do you want to be safe" that question in no way allows Allison to determine which hand he uses to activate the traps. She could have said right or left, and with clever wordplay he could have either kept the correct hand safe by using it to trigger the trap, thus, once shown not to be the 'real' trap it was safe (As he did), OR alternatively if it was an 'active' trap he could have said "Good choice because if you had put this hand in jeopardy, it would be maimed" and tested the trap with a bone, thus showing it to be the active trap, and her choice NOT to put it in danger being the correct one.
For acts where a decision is made in magic you always have to check carefully to see if the decision is REALLY the participants, or if the statements are ambiguous enough to allow re-interpretation.
As pointed out in other comments, acts like this are fairly immoral since those traps are truly dangerous, and live. Allison could have been hurt, and while the Magician knew which was which, and was no doubt intentionally careful, it is 'possible' for accidents to happen, and him to truly be maimed. Penn is notably not fond of such tricks, and generally speaking, what he said about the tricks going wrong 'eventually' it's just a matter of time, is actually true in these cases. It may be the case that he goes a long time with no issues, but something as stupid as tripping on stage into the table could be disastrous, and is not the sort of thing you can 'predict' whether for yourself, or just a clumsy participant. It's stupid, reckless, and really not terribly advisable or worth it given alternative ways to do the same trick.
Correct. All of them were live.
I don't understand how this could be entertaining.
"You want the right hand to be safe" * proceeds to press the right hand into the trap *
It's a little unfortunate that she didn't choose the left, because this really exposed the intentional vagueness of the phrasing. If I said I wanted the right hand to be safe, I would be telling you to press the left hand down, keeping the right hand safe from harm.
You also gave away that more than one trap was loaded by saying both hands could be in peril.
"We think we know how you did that."
"Well, are you going to tell me?"
"Emm...no."
The magic word is clamps
dem bones is suspicious
Those bones might have some magnet to set off the traps
no need he knew which trap was safe just altering the script depending on participants decisions
No. *SPOILERS AHEAD*
Pay attention to the word equivocate Penn mentioned. All but one he touched were set. When he asked Alison which hand she wanted to be safe, it would be interpreted either as "which hand shall I _not press_ against a trap in order to not risk losing it" or "which hand shall I _press_ against a trap to prove it is _not_ set". This way, whichever hand Alison chose, the trick would work.
Also note how he kept one hand over the un-set trap after telling Alison to say stop therefore ensuring success.
Something about this particular segment seems super edited. The trick itself is not (I know they have to show tricks to another magician etc) but I am talking about audience reactions. You can hear applause while the crowd is dead still.
Rhewin ever since CW took over production in S2, they’ve put really bad canned applause/laughter/reactions over the whole show - they’re not even trying to make it subtle!
Its magnets or something in the bones all the traps work but only activate to the bone.
Just curious...
Let's do a survey:
When Allison said "Right", did you think the left or right hand should have been placed in a trap. Reply your answer please.
(This will hopefully be helpful for anyone doing a trick like this in the future)
Left
I wonder how it works if they wait a while before saying stop?
Clamps is the keyword I believe in Penn's explanation . The bones release the clamps which allow the trap to be sprung.
2A Forever I don't know...the consensus on here seems to be that it was a simple force
2A Forever, it's equivocation, which is basically just a magician's choice. she said his right hand should be safe, which can be taken both ways. either press with left and keep right out of the trap or press with right and show trap is disarmed.
One of these days a magician is going to go crazy and decide to purposefully mame themselves
Magnets! How do they work?!
Pen doesn't seem pleased. It was like he had it figured all along and wasn't happy seeing him on stage wasting his time... Or he was simply shocked
p&t dont like these kinds of tricks, because either theyre set up and forced, or the magician is stupid enough to actually put themselves at danger, which is a massive massive no no in p&ts eyes. Im assuming thats why he was upset
If the guy had done his homework, he’d have known P&T know all there is to know about animal traps and wouldn’t have even tried this.
04:00 funny if he'd picked the unset one for the demonstrations at the beginning
At 4:25 you can see the marker designating the safe trap, just in case he forgot!
She wanted the right hand to be safe on the first one and he still put his hand on the trap…
could it be rather that, the traps and bones are embedded with rfid/nfc chips that only react once put in range to each other?
way to much effort most magicians tricks aim to keep it simple if a simple thread can do the same thing a fancy mechanism can do go with the thread
Late response... but it could have just been some type of magnetic switch.
no the key word is is Penn saying "out - right"
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Yea recognize that music straight away!
video starts 3:38