Potassium Sorbate: A Safe and Versatile Way to Extend Shelf Life. WTF - Ep. 319
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- From gummies to muffins and everything in between, we take a look at Potassium Sorbate and how it’s used as a preservative. Follow Janie and Ben as they cover how to safely use this preservative to extend the shelf life of your recipes, on this week’s episode of WTF
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:57 What is the potassium sorbate?
2:24 Is potassium sorbate safe to use as a preservative?
3:44 What is the usage range for potassium sorbate?
5:20 Demo Time: How do you add potassium sorbate to gummies?
8:17 Demo Time: How do you add potassium sorbate to beverages?
Demo Time: How do you add potassium sorbate to beverages?
9:44 Demo Time: How do you add potassium sorbate to baked goods?
10:10 Why is it hard to use potassium sorbate in bread baking?
12:02 How do you know how long the shelf life is using a preservative?
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This stuff looks amazing! I'm definitely going to look into adding some to my cocktail syrups to increase their life in the fridge.
Great idea!
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@@Modernist_Pantryhi can i use pottasium sorbate and sodium benzoate to gether in chilies
Can't reveal what my food product idea is but you guys have no idea how useful this video idea was for me.
Glad it was helpful!
As a newbie to using potassium sorbate, I wanted to educate myself and this was the 1st video I jumped into . I am so glad because this video was absolutely brilliant and I think I got all my doubts answered . THANK YOU SO MUCH ! New sub here too 💯🔥
Welcome aboard!
Very helpful! Thank you!
You're welcome!
Thank you all for this video! I’m looking to create more natural products that I can market to my customers but the research is the first and most essential part. Extending the shelf life with a natural product was exactly my goal and you all will help me achieve it
You got this!
We do seem to be a world of chemicals. Thanks so much for the interesting videos! What you said about dough not rising well when potassium sorbate is added was a revelation to me!
Everything is chemical when you come down to it 🙂 It's just whether we give the chemical a catchy consumer friendly name
Amazing!
Thanks!
great its a big help in my product in mind❤
Glad it was helpful!
We have relatives of the rowan tree native here in the Northwest. They are in the genus Sorbus along with the rowan tree, but we tend to call all the trees, including the rowan tree mountain ash. They all have bright orange berries that are rather bitter and said to be toxic. Being a bit of a botanist, I figured sorbic acid is named after the genus Sorbus, which I confirmed on line.
Thanks for the insight! Neat to know
I notice when I use this in my baked goods it makes them more moist and for a longer period of time. I love this and the fact it is naturally derived.
Glad you like it!
Please how do you use the powder in cakes?
How long does it last ?
Pls dear help me in teaching me how to use it as u have used it and is OK I don't really understand all they said here pls how can I use it in drinks that I'm making like tigernut,soy milk etc.
Hi dear can i use pottasium sorbate and sodium benzoate to gether in my chilli souce also is it true to use the formula of 0.1 times weight of your food then add the numbar of that
Ben is great, can’t wait to see the future he has in MP. If he could play around with ratios for ingredients and share those, that would be excellent!
That's definitely part of our plan!
Thank you for this helpful video. My question was what you touched on at the end, is there an average expected shelf life time extension ? I am excited to learn what you discover for yeast bread , too!
You may have answered this in a previous video, but I could use a review on storing spherification noodles longer term, too. 🍝😋
The answer is it depends! There's no add x = y more days exact type of formula available.
@@Modernist_Pantry oh, yes, I do understand that... just wondered if there was some kind of avg range. Thank you again!
This stuff is great for preserving homemade gummies.
Agreed!
Thanks for the info. I’ve been using it in a product I make and I’ve been using way to much.
Happy to help!
Can I use this with my homemade fruit syrups? I usually make strawberry syrup/purée and I use them to make drinks in my cafe. The shelf life is killing me as it prevents me from making a big patch.
Btw thank you for sharing the information with us, you guys have helped me a lot.
You can certainly try it, it will help but if you're trying to figure out what the actual shelf life will be that will take some testing.
Hi.Can potassium sorbate use to extend life for fried foods?Or how can we extend frie foods with caramel
I understand you said use an amount based on the total weight of your recipe. So the amount you put in the flour did you use that amount based on the weight of the flour or based on the amount of the recipe once the wet ingrdients are added? If so, is there a way to figure out the weight before making the entire recipe or can the sorbate be added to the mixture right before cooking? Asking for my cookies and brownies.
Amount of all the ingredients. You can figure out the weight by weighing out the individual ingredients.
Good day.
Such an insightful video, my question is that since the potassium sorbate doesn’t work well for yeasted bread. What other preservative can one then use?
Encapsulated Sorbic Acid is the way to go: modernistpantry.com/products/encapsulated-sorbic-acid.html
good day sir your content is really informative and helpful! may i ask does potasium sorbate does not need a certain ph in order to work? like other preservatives?
While it shows some activity up to pH 6 (about 6%), it is most active at pH 4.4 (70%). At pH 5.0 it is 37% active.
Good day your content is very helpful to us 😊, i have a question, for 1kg cheese spread i can direct put the potassium sorbate? or i need to disolve in water first before to mix in cheese spread? What is the ratio of water and the potassium sorbate for 1 kg cheese spread, please help me my grandmom love those cheese spread that i make the shelf live is to short 😊 thank you for answering my question 😊
In the manufacturing of sauces do you require both potassium sorbate AND sodium benzoate?
Sorry but we can't advise on how to make products retail-ready.
hi there i want to make bird treats with agar agar and seeds and use potassium sorbate as a preservative (to make those seed bells for budgies). how do you calculate the amount needed for that. is the total weight the seed weight and agar agar dry before adding water? Im unsure how to calculate how much I would need to use of the preservative and how to calcluate the total weight of my mix? like in the muffin you had when you have different ingredients of different forms, do you take the final weigh of the batter?
We recommend using the total weight of the mix, but not sure how that's going to affect bird seed food, since we don't know much about birds.
Hi..
Can i know how much preservative added to one kg chicken masala powder, mutton masala powder,moringa powder etc
What preservative..
Can I add the potassium sorbate dry to my herbs, like basil, and then make a pesto? Or should I weigh the pesto when done and then add in the potassium sorbate?
You can include it with the water in your blending process. Keep in mind that potassium sorbate does not preserve color.
Thank you so much for this video... I hope you get to respond toy question... Am into dates syrup production and apart from sterilizing containers and refrigerating my products, am hoping to try potassium sorbate as a better preservative to the ones above. What do you think?? Do you think it's a better method?? To what extent do you think it can extend the date syrup shelf life without altering the natural favor and benefits?...
That is a lot of R&D for a commercial product. We are not able to advise on this.
Can potassium sorbate be used in dairy products? For instance, I make a seamoss dairy beverage and would like to increase the shelf life, would it work on that?
Yes it should
Hello can you use this in fresh brewed ice tea and how long will it keep if in the fridge
You can add it to iced tea. For actual shelf life you'll need shelf life testing.
Hello, I'm making tofu and soy yogurt. I want to increase the shelf life. When will i put the potassium sorbate in the process and how?
Thanks a lot
May i know,by using it,have ur products shelf life improve?
an it be used in patty mashed potato recipie with white eggs without milk to be fried in a pan or refrigirate for few days ?
This is a shelf life extender, it does not alter the texture or other properties of our recipes. It's also not a stabilizer if you're having trouble stabilizing your mashed potatoes. there are a lot of different potential stabilizers for this application. We recommend reviewing our extensive list of gums and starches and picking out a few to test
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Love the VDO. How much would I use in 1 gallon of coconut water and how will I know the new shelf life ?
usage ratio is typically 0.1%-0.3% by weight. Shelf Life testing is a complicated topic
This must be the answer i'm looking for i make bottled juice and my problem was the bloating on my bottles, maybe because it is caused by bacterias that builds on my bottled beverage, thank you so much! Also i didn't quite get how to calculate on using potassium sorbate can you please explain it thoroughly? Im new to using potassium sorbate
It's 0.1% -0.3% by weight of your liquid. I.e. 1000g x 0.001 = 1g.
How preservatives should I add to hibiscus drink?
typical usage is 0.1-0.3% by weight, mixed in
Hi there, I’m interested in using the potassium sorbate in dog biscuits and on my dehydrated jerky any tips for the use on these
Here is our dog treat recipe: blog.modernistpantry.com/recipes/homemade-doggy-treats/
And a general reference sheet - blog.modernistpantry.com/advice/understanding-potassium-sorbate/
What preservatives is recommended and can be used for mung bean paste. It only last less than 7 with half ratio of sugar. Definitely it would be much safer to eat if it's not containing toxic molds..
You'll have to test out different combinations to figure out what works. shelf life stabilization is a science and there's no single easy answer for these questions. You can add preservatives, lower pH, etc.
Is this safe to use for hair & DIY shampoo? or will the salt part of the ingredients dry out your hair?
No idea! We don't know how to make hair care products.
Good Morning, Miss G and Mr B. Gosh it is so nice to have a scientist in the house. We also learn about what nature offers us.
Our pleasure!
Can i put it in water with fruits?
Do i have to pasteurize fruit or vegetable juice even if i will put potassium sorbate? Is potassium sorbate a substitute for pasteurization?
It is not a substitute for pasteurization.
Thank you so much for this video. It is very informative.
But, what is the percentage/quantity of potassium Sorbet to a specific quantity of cosmetic product.
Say, for shampoos, 0.5g of potassium Sorbet to 100g shampoo? Etc.
We don't work with cosmetics so can't advise on that
Are there any PH considerations for Potassium Sorbate? I know Ben mentioned using it in lemonade, so perhaps not? Thanks as always!
More acidic is better since that also creates a hostile environment for microbials
@@Modernist_Pantry That makes a lot of sense!
I wanted to know if potassium sorbets can prevent caulking in the dry spices for meat for marinating? Thank you
Not sure what this is referring to, you can email in to service@modernistpantry.com with what you mean by 'caulking'
I meant is this potassium carbonate can prevent molds in the dry spices. I want to market my seasoning but I’m afraid of molds
is it a good idea to use CITRIC ACID mixed with potassium sorbate in ice tea and what percent should the CITRIC ACID be ? thanks
You can if you'd like, but you'll have to test this recipe for taste and acidity. There's no off the top of our heads type of ratio for this.
Can you give me a exact measurements of potassium sorbate for juice formulation for business purposes thank you guys for this video I am very appreciated
Exact measurements are only determined through extensive testing, and cannot be provided over YT. General usage guidelines are 0.1%-0.3% by weight.
what preservative would you use for a caffinated milk tea/coffee beverage?
potassium sorbate is commonly used in drinks
@@Modernist_Pantryis that would i should use when attempting to preserve my miilk tea beverage bottled product?
Hi, i have a question regarding about the potassium sorbate .potassium sorbate wont works with yeast and makes bread very hard and can use for cakes for longer shelf life like cupcakes and sponge cakes ? whats the measurement to add up in the flour ? kindly clarify it .Thank you.
Check out our episode on encapsulated sorbic acid for breads
blog.modernistpantry.com/wtf/the-secret-of-fresh-bread/
You can still use regular potassium sorbate in any non-yeasted recipe. The general guidelines are 0.1-0.3% of the weight of all ingredients. The actual usage will vary by recipe and require R&D testing on your part.
@@Modernist_Pantry thanks for your clarification ❤️👍
Hi! May I know if using this pottasium sorbate in my muffins recipe, then do I still need to add in Liquid Lecithin to extend the shelf life ??
potassium sorbate inhibits mold growth, liquid lecithin helps with maintaining the texture of the muffin. If you just add potassium sorbate your muffin will still go stale.
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I see...so is the best is to use both right?
@@Modernist_Pantrywhat can i use to preserve fruits for a long shelf life
Can you dilute potassium sorbate in water then spray it on the outsides of sourdough bread?
If you're trying to preserve bread we recommend just using encapsulated potassium sorbate
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Is it work in marinated chicken which I can keep in fridge for 1 or 2 weeks ? How much should I use for 1 kg of chicken
This wouldn't work for that since you're not injecting the chicken with potassium sorbate.
Hello sir can I use in instant drink powder( premix like milk shake,lassi,sharbat powder) if yes how much can I use if 250grm of powder
You would have to test but should be yes. Typical usage is 0.1-0.3% by weight, actual usage will vary by recipe.
Hi can i use it in meat like siomai?
Hiii!! Im starting to develop a product here in the philippines and my product is caramel sauce, chocolate sauce, etc. Can have a consultation about shel life? Like how can i make it go up until a year?
Sorry, but we don't work on making commercial products for sale.
What is the life time of home made items those are prepared by using pottasium sorabate
Depends on the recipe, the conditions that products are made, etc. There is no simple answer for this.
May i use it in indian curry for small cloud kitchen business
Maybe you'll have to R&D your recipes
Hi, shall I use potassium sorbate to increase shelf life of coconut toffee ?
You can certainly try it out, but use the liquid method.
In baking scones how do i go about
start with 0.1% by weight
Mam can we put sodium benzoate in hot water and mix and then use in food items?
What combination of preservative should i avoid among citric acid, potassium sorbate, sodium benzoate ? Which 2 or 3 i should never mix ?
I need preservative combinations to use in food products for commercial purpose 2months shelf life atleast can you guide me mam
we haven't worked enough with preservatives to advise on this. Also we do not produce food for commercial sale so that is outside of our realm of expertise.
Giving potassium sorbate, when cooking or after cold temperatures?
potassium sorbate is not temperature sensitive
@@Modernist_Pantry So, I can give potassium Sorbate even when cooking and at high temperatures, around 115 C
How do I know how much portasium sorbate can I add in 5 litres of Tarmarind juice
The typical usage range is 0.1% - 0.3% by weight. Always start at 0.1%
Thank you for the video. Now I know how to use potassium sorbate to extend shelf life in my candies and cookies. A good antimicrobial additive. Is there a liquid version, or only the powder?
The liquid version is basically just the powder with some water added. We prefer powder since it's more versatile.
Can i use this also for fried food?
not really
How much quantity of potassium sorbate can be used in 40l of juice
Recommended usage range is 0.1-0.3%. Actual usage will depend on your testing and recipe.
How is potassium sorbate used in chocolate sauce?
We haven't tried it but it would have to be mixed with the water before incorporating into the sauce.
How long we can preserve the baked items after using potassium sorbate? Please help me out of this🙏
There is no single answer for this, shelf life stabilization is a science and requires R&D to figure out what works.
Thank you
can potassium sorbate be added to chocolates to extend their shelf life?
yes, but stick with the minimum ratios.
How much quantity use in cup cakes plz reply
average usage is 0.1-0.3% by weight. Actual usage will vary
Is there a temperature range That I should not exceed?
potassium sorbate is not temp sensitive.
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What is sorbic acid and how to use
check out the videos and recipes here: modernistpantry.com/products/encapsulated-sorbic-acid.html
Hi. I make homemade.peanut butter for business.and I want to prolong its shelf life. Can you please give a ratio of how much to use and what expiry date should I put. Thanks for your reply
Sorry, we cannot advise on commercial production. We recommend that you follow proper protocols for testing or outsource to a qualified lab if you sell food to the public.
What is the proportion of using potassium sorbate to calamansi juice
The typical usage range is 0.1%-0.3% by weight. Actual usage will vary by application.
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Please how do i use potassium sorbate for meat pies?
start at 0.1% by weight mixed in, but actual usage and food safety testing will vary
I used it in a cornbread it didn't work 😕. What did I miss?
If you got the potassium sorbate from Modernist Pantry please write in to service@modernistpantry.com with your recipe, and a detailed outline of how you used the potassium sorbate as part of that recipe to troubleshoot.
GOODDAY PLS what quantity of potassium sorbate will go for 10 liters of tiger nut Juice
The typical usage range is 0.1-0.3% by weight.
Educational. But if yeast doesn’t like potassium sorbate because it’s acidic, then why is citric acid a common dough enhancement ingredient?
I think you're thinking about ascorbic acid, the usage rates are 0.01%. Encapsulated sorbic acid is used for yeasted breads because they are not activated until baking
How many grams to add potassium sorabate.
1kg flour.
Baking purpose for cakes and biscuits
Plz give me rply sister or brother
We recommend a starting ratio of 0.1%, actual usage will vary by recipe
On average how much longer can it make baked goods last?
Can I use potassium sorbate to meat products?
it depends. We are not able to offer advice on this.
How much grams of potassium sorbate per kg ?
Typical usage range is 0.1-0.3%.
Please I need to know how to use it in Cake please
Start your testing at 0.1% by weight of your ingredients.
@@Modernist_Pantry 1 grame in one kilo of flour !? And how I can test and know if it give the good result please would you please give your WhatsApp or Facebook page
Can I use it to make hard candy?
Baking powder but instead of bicarb, you put sorbate? Product suggestions: vanillin and ethyl vanillin, umami boosters (guanylate and inosinate)
potassium sorbate is not a substitute for baking powder, very different!
I was SO excited about the potassium sorbate, to find out it is a natural item.
Then You pointed out it will kill yeast & my bubble burst.
I make the keto egg white bread & need it to last longer.
Do You have any other natural, healthful preservative or I need wait for the out come of the encapsulated potassium sorbate experiments?
Thank You for helping us home rocket scientists learn!! 🤡🥳
Ascorbic acid helps, lecithin helps, and we'll add encapsulated potassium sorbate as soon as we finish testing it since it basically takes a while to wait for things to mold.
How % use potassium sorbate
0.1-0.3% by weight as a general guideline.
New friend here and subscribers from Philippines waiting for your reply thanks guys
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Its banned in the EU
That's Potassium Bromate.
250g/100 =2.5g, it is not 0.25g
The usage is 0.1%, which is 250g/1000 not 250g/100. You might want to be sure of your math before pedantically correcting someone else.
Hello, I'm making tofu and soy yogurt. I want to increase the shelf life. When will i put the potassium sorbate in the process and how?
Thanks a lot
preservatives can only be added after fermentation otherwise you wouldn't get the yogurt at all. Try blending the potassium sorbate slurry into the yogurt after it's ready. This is just a general guideline, you'll have to actually test for efficacy and shelf life in a controlled environment.
Good day your content is very helpful to us 😊, i have a question, for 1kg cheese spread i can direct put the potassium sorbate? or i need to disolve in water first before to mix in cheese spread? What is the ratio of water and the potassium sorbate for 1 kg cheese spread, please help me my grandmom love those cheese spread that i make the shelf live is to short 😊 thank you for answering my question 😊
we do recommend dissolving in water first. The recommended ratios are 0.1%-0.3% by weight, actual usage and effectiveness will vary by recipe.