Using Sodium Benzoate Preservative in Soda and Other Beverages
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- Using a preservative, like sodium benzoate and potassium sorbate, in diet sodas and other drinks that are not shelf-stable can make your drinks safer. Having bacteria and mould in a beverage is not good, and the toxins from food-borne pathogens are far worse than any preservative, so having safe food and drink is important.
In this video, I will explain how to safely use sodium benzoate and potassium sorbate in drinks like low-calorie syrups and diet sodas.
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Thank you for doing a video explaining preservatives correctly, you're the first person to use LD50 to explain the safety of a chemical in your process. Rather than using it as a scare tactic. I have been searching for information on how to stabilize several different homemade soda syrups. For shelf stability. Thank you for viewing these videos and keep up the good work.
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Great video. Very informative.
Love ur videos, Sir. Great quality. Greetings from Brazil
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Wow, amazing video! More educational and precise than others I've seen.
I was wondering though, do you have a resource on extending shelf life of baked goods?
Specifically, granola and dog cookies.
Thanks and no unfortunately, my experience is with beverages.
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Many thanks for this Tutorial. What about preserving milk, milk products and nutmilk drinks can you use this combo of sodium benzoate and potassium sorbate for it.
When and how do you use citric acid as a preservative.
Thanks for the videos my question i want to start ice candy or Popsicles can I use sodium benzoate only to preserve it and how long will it take with out refrigerator
How much of that stuff per ounce of salad dressing should i use to preserve my salad dressing? The salad dressing also has red wine vinegar! Your help would be greatly appreciated!
thank you so much. I would like to know which good preservatives can I use in juicy fruits for 6 months, please I want to start a juice commercial business
Fascinating! What if you want more than a month of shelf life? I'm planning on making nonalcoholic rum with sucralose and trying to do a few bottles at a time.
Hi!
Man this channel is exactly what i've been looking for for years. Damn, thank you so much!
I've recently started considering ways of preserving my homemade flavoured cocktail syrups like Orgeat or Grenadine beyond the month or two they seems to last and i'm now wondering if sodium benzoate (activated with some citric or malic acid) isn't already commonly used because even if used in small amounts these syrups are going to be mixed with fresh fruit and/or juices which will contain ascorbic acid when you make the cocktail with it?
You mentioned there also needs to be copper and iron ions present for that reaction and it takes time to happen, and of course the extremely low amounts of benzene that are actually produced by that reaction... am I right in thinking this really isn't something worth worrying about at all? or would the high amount of ascorbic acid present in say... orange juice or fresh kiwi potentially increase the levels produced by that reaction above what's considered generally safe?
The practice of adding alcohol to syrups to lengthen shelf life is well practiced but i'd prefer a non-alcoholic solution... would food grade monopropylene gylcol ever have a place as a preservative in syrups or is it just not that well suited to that specific application?
Sorry to ask so much, i'm so grateful for the information and perspective you offer here and im struggling to find the info i need just through classic internet search...
Thank you!
Hey Darcy , thank you for sharing the info , really appreciate it. One question,how much would a cordial/soda with this solution stored in the fridge last ?
I am making fruit mocktails with fruit juices not mixers. I assume I can use this to preserve it and make my product shelf stable. Does it need to be refrigerated after i make my mocktail or can it be left out on the shelf/counter? if so, is there an estimate of how long?
Thank you so much, can I use this in sauce? If ever how much solution should I add for a 1kg of sauce? Thank you
Thanks so much for the ingormation, this is very helpful. Would this concentration apply to kombucha as well?
Yes, absolutely
Thanks Darcy! Can you make a more dilute version of the preservative mixture? I frequently make about 500ml or slightly less of cocktail syrup so measuring and adding 1ml or parts thereof isn’t straight forward. Also sometimes I’ve noticed that richer sugar syrups e.g. 1.5:1 & more end up going cloudy on the shelf & I have to throw them away. Would these preservatives stop that happening?
Yes you can, or you can just use 0.5 mL of the solution. You can buy accurate glass pipettes that will measure 0.1 mL on Amazon for about $15, just look for Glass Pipettes Graduated in the 0.5 to 1.0 mL range. If you still want to make a less concentrated solution, just cut benzoate and sorbate in half and still use 100 mL total volume.
Thank you so much for this educative video, you are the best so far
Can this method be used on a plant based based milk drink, such as soymilk or tigernut drink for commercial production?
Yes, absolutely
Hi, is Sodium benzoate a good preservative to use in iced coffee? And how much do i add to a gallon if so?
So basically you create a 15% sodium benzoate & 25% potassium sorbate w/v solution and add 1ml per 1000ml (1L) of product which amount to 0.015% sodium benzoate & 0.025% potassium sorbate in the end product. Is this correct?
Could you tell me how the ratio mixture of Chilli Garlic Oil with Sodium Benzoate is. THANK YOU!
Thank you for the time and the information that all your videos have given, it’s really well-prep and simple to understand.
I have a question, If we want to use both Sodium Benzoate & Potassium Sorbate in a juice or fermented drinks…
- How much of each preservative do we add to 1000ml of the beverage? 1g + 1g or 0.5g + 0.5g?
- Does it have any effects if we heat it up (e.g. If we apply the preservative during the pasteurization process, boiling to be precise)
Thank you in advance : )
In Kombucha I use 0.01% both kali sorbate and natri benzoate, it's working well. In my opinion, if i use preservation, i won't us pasteurization in my drink :D
can we use sodium benzonate or potassium sorbate to stop the fermentation of kombucha duringthe 2nd fermentation... can please help me with it ...I would appreciate it if you could..
Great tutorials, thanks for this vital information. Please what amount of benzoate can l use for 5 litre yoghurt. Thanks
Thank you: 0.75 grams for 5L
Great video, thank you. Question for you if you have some time. I'm wanting to preserve a homemade lemonade which will have vitamin c in it from the lemons obviously, if I'm storing the the finished drinks in a plastic bottle kept away from uv light should the benzene thing be an issue I should be concerned with?
Thank you. Typically no, the benzene thing isn’t a major concern. Most manufacturers removed ascorbic acid out of an abundance of caution, not because there were any adverse health outcomes.
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Well could you please tell me in what percentage ratio of Sodium Benzoate can i use it on 1 Ltr coffee syrup or chocolate syrup & how long it will last ?
Thanks
Thanks, 1 litre of syrup gets the same 150/250 ppm of benzoate/sorbate. As for how long that last, each product is different but typically it should last longer than 16 weeks, and if the sugar content is above 66%, it should last maybe a year. You would have to do an experiment to see how long it would last.
I have had an open benzoate lying around for three years now can I use it to save any items will there be any harm? Please let me know
Thanks for the video, can this preservative be used on ginger drink.
So interesting! I make a lot of syrups. The one that seems to go bad most rapidly is my orgeat. Even in the fridge. If I could find a way to lengthen it's shelf life I'd be very happy. Especially since it's such an unpleasant process to make it.
This preservative will do the job but the pH must be around 4
Sir i have questions if i am using ethanol for orange soda does preservatives are necessary
Thanks Darcy for the excellent work you've been doing. Being a homeopathic doctor we've to dispense the medicines in a vehicle (mostly in distilled water or alcohol). But the distill water limitation is it's shelf life. Can we add sodium Bezt and potassium sorbate into it water. Would it serve the purpose of increasing shelf life of distill water and for for how long.
Thanks again.
The preservative can extend the shelf-life of products, up to 14 weeks according to some research, but the key is to make sure any solution has a pH of 4.0 or lower when used with the preservative.
Great video, thanks! I see a lot of commercial syrups here in the U.K. with just potassium sorbate and citric acid in them. Would the quantity of potassium sorbate need to be increased if sodium benzoate were not used?
Than you. The potassium sorbate level stays the same for all beverages.
Thank you very much!! Well can I use this for canning cold brew coffee?!
Yes you can.
Can this preservative blend be added to natural skin care applications? If yes whats the ratio?
Hello if we want to low ph what must we add? And if we want high ph what must we add? Thank you
Darcy. I make a canned Grapefruit Soda with 13% Grapefruit Juice. Do you think the Vitamin C that comes with the Grapefruit juice would be problematic for the Benzoate solution?
Thanks much, very informative video. How much would I use in 1 gallon of fresh cut coconut water ?
Thanks, you would add 3.8 mL of the solution per gallon
Hi!
I'm looking to preserve an alcoholic iced tea. The alcohol content is 3.5%, and it currently has around 5ml of lemon juice. I read that I should need 1000mg for every 100ml of liquid? If that's correct, then I'd need 3.3g of citric acid (330ml drink).
My question to you is, when I come to adding the citric acid, how much water am I diluting it by? And how much of that solution am I then adding to my 330ml drink?
Thank you in advance.
I tried this solution in an acidic cordial 2-2.2pH and it curdled and it doesn't dissolve. What can I do ?
I am wanting to do bottled cocktails , what would I need to use to make this stable and how long will they last
How much quantity of sodium benzoate and potassium sorbate in 1 ltr herbal shampoos … plz suggest me it will be helpful for me
Hey man. Tks a lot for all the shared knowledge. Should this preservative theoretically work in any kind of drinks that sit in a pH range of 3.5 and 3.8? Im asking cuz I plan to make some 0 cal syrups that are a little different from the one you gave the recipe for.
yes, it will work in almost any beverage with the listed pH range.
Hi Darcy, I'm thinking about using your solution in my cordials, but some of them would contain ascorbic acid as I would also use fruit juices in my cordials. So would it still be safe to use in this case, or could the formation of benzene occur and present a health risk?
The benzene issue is overblown and it is not an instantaneous reaction, it actually takes a while to develop. And even then the amount formed are miniscule, so I personally wouldn't work about it, but how you formulate is your choice.
Sir i want to launch milktea or milkshakes in plastic bottles can i used sodium benzoate or how can i preserve the colour also upto 3 months please reply sir
Great Video very helpful , 1 question can you use citric acid with sodium benzoate or is citric acid considered like vitamin c , thanks
Citric acid is fine and does not react as Vitamin C does
Amazing video! I just wanna ask how to make a pre batched cocktail drink shelf stabled that will reach months? For example margaritas and old fashioned?
That is a very complex question, I'll be dealing with some of these issues in future videos.
Can you use it when making oatmilk tea?
Thanks Darcy, how we preserve sugar past for longer time
You can use a more concentrated amount of the preservatives, up to 1000 mg per kilogram of sugar paste.
Thanks a lot. Very helpful videos. Question from Germany.
I use the solution to extend the Shelf-Life for the Super-Juice. When I inject the solution, straigt away it form white cristals on the juice. Can you explain what happens and does this reduce the functionality of the preservative ? Thanks Darcy.
Those white crystals are benzoic acid, formed when sodium benzoate mixes with an acid, and benzoic acid is the actual preservative, that's why the pH needs to be below 4.0 for sodium benzoate to work. It is a good thing, the benzoic acid should dissolve back into solution with mixing at room temperature.
can I use sodium benzoate and soda for all drinks please
what can l put in my drink without rotten in 1year and how many spoons can I put in100 RL s
Can i use it as ragi drink preservative
Hey Darcy, this might be a dumb question but how long does this solution last. I made some last summer and I'm wondering if i need to make a new batch? Scaned the comments and dont think i herad you say in the video. Thanks!
It should last a while, though how long I'm not sure. I adjust the pH of the preservative to below 4.0 so it preserves itself and my bottles are still good after a year.
can i use this to lemonade? lemon juice
Hello,
Honesty for the first time I have come across some sensible video on this topic. I am desperately seeking help in preserving dry fruits syrup that has water and the mixture is cooked along sugar. I have been adding Sodium Benzoate and Citric Acid in solid form to the syrup. However it is still catching mould if left at room temperature.
Can you please suggest some remedy? It will be great help if I could fix this issue.
Commercially found same product in the market contains Citric Acid, Sodium Benzoate and Sorbic Acid.
One observation is that if same syrup is left in plastic tub with lid and open to the air in stainless steel bowl and in a glass plate, the mould comes on the syrup that is kept in a covered plastic tub and not on the syrup that was lying open in stainless steel and glass container.
Is there any PH angle associated with my issue? If yes, can you please guide me on how should I adjust the syrup PH?
Regards and many thanks.
Hello, first Video i saw from your channel was the chocolate syrup, which lead me to follow up with other, very informative, interesting and useful topics. In the Video about glycerine in comparison to Ethanol, you mention that glycerin, if too much of it, can work as laxative. I wonder what the proportion of glycerin is to be used as preservative instead of the sodium benzoate preservative and not cause said unwanted effect of too much glycerin. Thank you for the content you put up ❤ and topics you cover!
Glycerin will work as a preservative in syrups, but in drinks you would need too much. Kind of like alcohol is a great preservative once it reaches 18% but there are restrictions on that. Glycerin would be similar, 20% would offer preservation qualities but everyone drinking your drinks would probably end up with explosive diarrhea.
What if the drink is alkaline in nature , say milkshakes containing grams , banana and dry fruits . Then what's the best preservative to use ? @Artofdrink
Thanks for the video. Very clear and informative. But I want to ask, can this also preserve grated red pepper?
It can be added but for food it is typically used at 1000 ppm or 0.1% so 1.0 grams per kilogram of food. You can use less but each product will depend on factors like ph (must always be below 4.0) and sugar content, processing, etc.
Could you tell us the mixture ratio of Garlic oil with Sodium Benzoate as preservatives? THANK YOU DARCY!!!
I don't have any experience with foods, just drinks, but typically the maximum amount is 0.1% in foods.
Hi Darcy! my sodium benzoate/potassium sorbate solution didn’t turn yellowish like in your video. Mine is basically colourless. Is that normal? or could one of the ingredients I bought be defective/falsely labelled?
I am not sure; if you buy from reputable suppliers, it should be fine.
How do you stabilise simple sugar syrup(for cocktails for example) because the P.H. is over 4?
You can adjust the pH of simple syrup to 3.5 to 4.0 because it doesn't affect the flavour much but really extends the shelf-life. Check out the video on zero calorie simple syrup to see how to adjust the pH with citric acid: czcams.com/video/2V9ZGT4ibhg/video.html
Can I use this mixture in cold coffee. My ingredients is water milk powder filter coffee extract and sugar. I want to start new business. And this mixture provide me 6 month self life in packed bottle?. Please please reply me
Hi, u r a mentor , I have learned a lot from you. Can u please tell me the method of preserving cocktails or lemonades for commercial purposes. Thanks
Same to me...same question 😂
Just follow the recipe in this video to make the preservative and then add 1.0 mL of the preservative solution to every litre of beverage you make. Just make sure the beverage has a pH below 4.0 and lemonades will be fine as they have a low pH to begin with.
@@Dashabitv Just follow the recipe in this video to make the preservative and then add 1.0 mL of the preservative solution to every litre of beverage you make. Just make sure the beverage has a pH below 4.0 and lemonades will be fine as they have a low pH to begin with.
can i use this to preserve yoghurt
@@amazingglamscakesnmore3410 yes, but you can't add it before the yoghurt is complete because it will inhibit the fermentation process.
tanks for this video ! it's gonna be really usefull for me
Juste a question (i thinks i got the answer) : This is usefull in "old style roots beer" (with natural "batterial gaz") ? And did i use it at the end of the carbonation or at the begining in this case ?
Yes, this will help preserve old-style rootbeers. And if you are making syrup add it to the syrup, if you are bottling the rootbeer with carbonation, add it before carbonation at 1 mL for every litre of rootbeer you make.
After freezing buttermilk solid and liquid seperate. How can i prevent seperation and solid particles are larger in size. Please give me a suggestions
I really need this
Please take a look at the latest video on emulsification, it may help: czcams.com/video/lYToDpVAeMU/video.html
Do sodium benzoate turn in to benzene with vitamin C
Can I add it to fresh juices like mango or any type of fruit juices so I can make it and sell it to stores ?
Yes
Can i use your preservative solution with citric acid beverage that i made? Just trying to find the safest option.
You should actually watch the video, the answers are all in it.
Thanks for this video which i kept.on looking over the internet and books but found none.
My question is, can sodium benzoate be used alone or it should be ( like essentially) dissolved with potassium sorbate?
You can use it alone as long as the pH is below 4. Potassium sorbate does a few things that sodium benzoate doesn't, like inhibit yeast from fermenting your beverage.
@@Artofdrink thanks for responding.
Shall the preservatives be applied to the food during cooking or only when the food is ready for packing?
@@Genlightenment no idea, I only work with beverages.
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What is the right time to put preservatives in the beverage industry?
Hello there, can this be used to preserve yoghurt drinks also?
If it is a drink, yes it can at the same levels in the video. Cheers
Good video. How many ppm of potassium sorbate will this create when 1 mL is added to 1 L of liquid?
250 mg/L with 1 mL
What preservative or process can i use to prolong the shelf life of coconut water? Thanks
The two in the video used at the levels in the video will work fine. Just make sure the pH is 4.0 or below.
So do you have to use potassium sorbate. I’m making a mouthwash that I’m trying to preserve and I have the sodium benzoate but not the potassium sorbate. I can purchase but just wanted to see if it was necessary. Please let me know.
Sorbate and Benzoate work on different things, for example sorbate inhibits yeast, but if you feel you don't need it you can try with just sodium benzoate. But if you find that you get fermentation (the taste of carbonation or bubbles forming) then add sorbate in the future.
@@Artofdrink thank you so much for your kind reply!
Can this be used in milkshakes?
Is it possible to use only potassium sorbate to preserve a water based drink for up to 6 months (so I can store in bulk)
It depends, sorbate and benzoate work on different pathogens so that is why they are often used together. Try it on a small scale and see what happens after a few weeks. You'll be able to taste if the drink has gone off.
Can i add it to sugarcane juice. If yes, what would be it self life without refrigation ???
You can. It should be similar to tamarind, so possibly six weeks. Here is some research: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3951547/
How many sodium benzoate is needed for 104 litres of fruit juice
hello sir, can sodium bensoate and citric acid are advisable to put together in calamansi juice? i hope you response thank you and God bless!
Cancer recipe?
Yes, sodium benzoate and citric acid are fine together.
Thanks for all the information!! Love from India ... Just wanted to know what preservatives could be used for6 -8 ph water based drinks and in what quantity? Thanks in advance.😊
Don't know at the moment, will do a video on it in the future
Can you use it to preserve palm wine and sugar cane juice, on commercial basis please? Thank you
Can we use it for an energy drink and pasteurize around 95-100 Celsius degrees??
Sure
can i use zodium benzoate without combination?
Yes
What is the quantity of sodium benzoate use in one kg flour batter?
Sodium benzoate is only used in liquid preparations, it is not useful in dried products.
Thank you so much for doing this video, this what have been looking for. Please I have a question using 1ml per liter, would the shafts live last more than a month, maybe like 6 month to a year.
Thanks. Shelf-life varies widely depending on what and how it is made. A few research papers give the extended shelf-life to 4 months, but it could be shorter or longer depending on other factors. The best way to know is to do a test. Make 24 bottles and taste one every week until it goes bad.
Can I increase the ml per liter maybe 2 to 3 ml per liter for testing. Would it be fine?
@@Ramcykinds no, you would exceed regulatory limits
Thank you sir
Good evening Sir. How long can the solution last, can the solution stay up to a week without going bad.
Hi Mentor I really hope you respond to this 🙏🥺.
In a situations where Potassium Sorboate isn't available and you want to use Citric Acid + Sodium Benzoate instead, what should be the measurement of Citric Acid and Sodium Benzoate in this scenario?
Thank you in advance
Potassium sorbate inhibits yeast whereas benzoate inhibits things like bacteria. The level of benzoate is the same in all beverage scenarios.
@@Artofdrink thank you for your response. Can I do a ratio 2:1 or 1:1 for citric acid and sodium benzoate?
How much sodium benzoate
Is this solution able to preserve syrups upto a year or 2?
Yes as long as the pH is stable below 4.0
Hi anyone who can help to keep fresh fruit juices preserved for longer period of time I'm not able to do so used many tricks
Can this be used for cold pressed juices
Yes it can
Can it be used to preserve cane syrup
Yes it can
Please can i use Ascorbic acid to replace sodium Benzoate
No, ascorbic acid is not a preservative
For the juice 1 liter combined with water how may sodium benzoate needed ty waiting for your reply
1 ml of sodium benzoate solution per litre
@@Artofdrink thank you new friend from the Philippines ty for your reply
How many grams of sodium benzoate should I add to 10litres of water pls
1.5 grams
Can I substitute the water with high proof ethanol?
Why? And maybe, I'm not sure on their solubility in alcohol.
I followed this recipe and the solution after stirring on my stir plate it turned out clear, but when I added it to a sugar free champagne syrup it formed clumps.
Which sweetener did you use in the syrup?
@@Artofdrink no sweetener at all. It was just the wine, brandy and sherry. I wanted the champagne flavor to be unsweetened so I could mix it with different fruit syrups and have it not be overly sweet. I do think I may have messed up and used 12.5ml instead of 1.25ml, though I am really not sure now. I put the whole thing on the stir plate and the clumps disappeared, but the result was milky. I put it in the fridge overnight, and the next morning it was clear with a layer of chalky white on the bottom. I tossed that batch and while I have not remade the champagne flavor, I have used it in a reduced sugar simple syrup sweetened with sugar, erythritol and stevia, and did not have any issues.
So basically we just need to add 60g of water to the 15g of Sodium Benzoate and 25g of Potassium Sorbate, right ?
Not quite, the salts will dissolve in the water so you will not get exactly 100 mL, which is important.Add the salts and then dissolve them in a bit (e.g. 40 ml) of water and then bring the level of the water to exactly 100 mL. Accuracy is important.
Does this method work if I want to preserve iced tea?
Yes it does
How much penzoate
Can I add it to hibiscus drink
Yes
How long will this last? I will probably drink 100 litres of diet syrup in 5 years. Will it last so much? Assuming it stays in the fridge.
It won't last 5 years, maybe a year in the fridge, maybe less. It all depends on how well you make the syrup (pasteurized, acidity level, etc.) Fresh juice it will help it last 16 weeks with refrigeration. Syrups with higher sugar will last longer.
@@Artofdrink thanks, the good thing is that they are cheap and sold in big quantities.