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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  Před rokem +183

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    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 Před rokem +5

      F-22 VS Nine North Korean MIG-29's BVR
      F-35 VS Two MIG-31's BVR

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 Před rokem +2

      9:40 lol okay if that was easy I challenge you to take on my request of Nine North Korean MIG-29's! Lol are you afraid??

    • @highlander723
      @highlander723 Před rokem +3

      Give yourself a real challenge.
      F22 armed with FOX2 only against 7 F15x

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 Před rokem +2

      @@highlander723 c'mon lol you kno F-22 VS Nine North Korean MIG-29's would be a good challenge! GS will definitely have to get creative on the last kill lol possibly last couple kills ;)

    • @JoseFernandez-wu8pj
      @JoseFernandez-wu8pj Před rokem +1

      Could you do F-22 VS. 7 SU-35 BVR or
      F-15EX VS. SU-35 BVR

  • @Justanotherconsumer
    @Justanotherconsumer Před rokem +2693

    “I think I survived his AMRAAM shot.”
    I 100% expected an explosion within 2-3 seconds.

    • @briansonnenfelt7125
      @briansonnenfelt7125 Před rokem +113

      Yea that’s pretty par for the course for him…and highly entertaining

    • @bri-manhunter2654
      @bri-manhunter2654 Před rokem +4

      Same!

    • @Vagabond820
      @Vagabond820 Před rokem +4

      Same

    • @LordInquisitor701
      @LordInquisitor701 Před rokem +9

      To be fair don’t AMRAAM use radar to track the target

    • @mindbodyinstitute2652
      @mindbodyinstitute2652 Před rokem +9

      I’m not a pilot just a guy who knows a little about a lot of things and is a fan of aerial warfare theory.
      It’s funny how industry hypes up things.
      “Extreme probability”
      Yeah in some situations not in most against most modern aircraft. Definitely not against an F-15EX at long range.
      Would you not point your nose at the incoming missile? Chaff at 4 and dive at 2?
      Can MWR give you a heading on incoming missile?
      You can’t go off visual it’s a high sonic missile
      Diving too early would be a mistake, correct?

  • @SoapOfTheMactavish
    @SoapOfTheMactavish Před rokem +930

    The title led me to believe it was going to be a 1v7, one singular F-15EX vs 7 F-22s
    F-15EX’s current objective: Survive

    • @VisibilityFoggy
      @VisibilityFoggy Před rokem +17

      They'll be in the rear... Eagles will be fine.

    • @ZmarRidez
      @ZmarRidez Před rokem +3

      lmao yes

    • @yoonseongdo3303
      @yoonseongdo3303 Před rokem +12

      lmao he can have fun dodging 6x7=42 amraams.

    • @thomasvleminckx
      @thomasvleminckx Před rokem +37

      Just eject. Just do it. You can't lose if you don't engage.

    • @petersmythe6462
      @petersmythe6462 Před rokem +15

      That F-15EX vectored south hearing there were 7 F-22s in the area. Last we saw they were in a zoom climb over Vostok station in central Antarctica.

  • @iancrowley420
    @iancrowley420 Před rokem +404

    the f22s only weakness is that eventually it runs out of enemy planes to shoot at

    • @manofchaitea6904
      @manofchaitea6904 Před rokem +4

      Tragic isnt it? =P

    • @xDarkness.cutting.deepeRx
      @xDarkness.cutting.deepeRx Před rokem +2

      Underrated comment

    • @isaan01
      @isaan01 Před rokem +7

      An F-16, a Rafale, and a Mirage 2000 have shot down the F-22 in training. Over hyped aircraft constantly up against fighters that are not 5 generation.

    • @xDarkness.cutting.deepeRx
      @xDarkness.cutting.deepeRx Před rokem +2

      @@isaan01 fair point

    • @kaeaja
      @kaeaja Před rokem +4

      @@isaan01 Except if an F-22 pilot and a pilot of any of those three planes you mentioned were both equally skilled to the point where the only deciding factor is the performance and capability of their plane, then the F-22 is going to win against any of those other three every time (assuming that the F-22 pilot does not make a severe enough mistake that their plane's performance can't save them).

  • @Rangeofranges
    @Rangeofranges Před rokem +702

    I remember hearing about an f22 pilot at red flag against f15s that said “my concern wasn’t getting shot down, it was running out of missiles”

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Před rokem +119

      Lol that’s so Awesome

    • @dsdy1205
      @dsdy1205 Před rokem +54

      "Oh no, I'm an Ace now, gotta RTB for more missiles"

    • @bleachorange
      @bleachorange Před rokem +7

      @mandellorian Ive definitely seen plenty of comments that the eurofighter and rafale have the chops to compete in BFM with the f22. ive yet to see reports on their effectiveness in a large exercise like red flag vs stealthy platforms in bvr combat, just quotes on k:d for the stealth platforms. not saying they dont exist, but i havent seen it.

    • @manofchaitea6904
      @manofchaitea6904 Před rokem +17

      @mandellorian They were doing fights WVR, in BVR it was all F22. In red flag versus others, we regularly go in with older tech.

    • @lifeistech6307
      @lifeistech6307 Před rokem +22

      @mandellorian bro in the red flag exercise the f-22 was able to shot down 6 Rafale's, and when the french was able to shot down 1 F-22 it's because the F-22 was doing a dogfight, remember the F-22 wasn't build to fight in dogfights, he was built to shot down the target before the enemy knows he was there. so in a real fight scenario the Rafale doesn't have a chance.

  • @kenchen704
    @kenchen704 Před rokem +684

    Seeing the raptor move in 120fps but the weapon doors move at 5 was very entertaining

  • @sid2112
    @sid2112 Před rokem +2322

    I grew up with the F-15, it kind of hurts to see them as targets.

    • @lilsmoot4488
      @lilsmoot4488 Před rokem +154

      Same the Eagle has always been my favorite bird.

    • @fim-43redeye31
      @fim-43redeye31 Před rokem +273

      The modern F-15 variants only lack stealth and maneuverability compared to the F-22. They're still plenty scary and have lots of reason to exist.

    • @galgay1
      @galgay1 Před rokem +161

      @@fim-43redeye31 yeah they are like the f-22’s luggage 🧳 boy. Carrying in missiles in volume after the f-22 makes a path.

    • @skaldlouiscyphre2453
      @skaldlouiscyphre2453 Před rokem +31

      Since nationalism isn't a big factor for me, no matter the scenario there's a fighter I like getting shot up or exploded. You get used to it. They just join the never-ending dogfight.

    • @imza5535
      @imza5535 Před rokem +6

      honestly can't relate

  • @davidgermain
    @davidgermain Před rokem +2033

    it would be cool to see these working togreather like they are ment to , F22 finding targets and F15EX being the weapons truck.

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 Před rokem +280

      Lol I literally said the same thing a while back and made this request--
      F-22 Raptor and F-15EX Eagle II VS Ridiculous amount of North Korean MIG-29's BVR!😆👍
      It would be cool to see the tactics demonstrated! F-22 up closer to the bandits while F-15EX lobs a wall of missiles from a distance! Then either F-22 can join in and attack while bandits are in disarray! Or just mop up what's left! Lol or a combination of both!🤯😁✌

    • @davedeville6540
      @davedeville6540 Před rokem +114

      Or F-22 paired with Eurofighter Typhoons carrying Meteors…

    • @jkull173
      @jkull173 Před rokem +21

      @@davedeville6540 Some Gripens popping up in there too would be fun.

    • @Error-33
      @Error-33 Před rokem +34

      @@davedeville6540 so many possibilities man i would love to see those types of videos f-22 and f-15 or eurofighter against like 15 opponents on bvr combat

    • @krismurphy7711
      @krismurphy7711 Před rokem +40

      I saw a cool video about a year ago about an idea using B1's as missile carriers working with F22s as targeters.....needless to say that is a lot more missiles than a F15EX

  • @sniperswiper6923
    @sniperswiper6923 Před rokem +360

    One of the moments in time is when Growling Sidewinder said his catchphrase "its sidewindering time!" and sidewindered all over everyone

  • @CharlieThunder24
    @CharlieThunder24 Před rokem +196

    When you fired the first four all I could think was "the f22, elusive aerial pez dispenser of death"

  • @thomasmadden7580
    @thomasmadden7580 Před rokem +468

    Crazy to think what the NGAD capabilities will look like. I wish F22 production wasn’t cut so short of the mark. Hope we don’t regret it.

    • @FARAIM_Enjoyer
      @FARAIM_Enjoyer Před rokem +49

      I mean hell if shit kicks off maybe we could see an F-22B/C upgrade or new model

    • @danrazART
      @danrazART Před rokem +15

      Ndad or ngad?

    • @l_poci_
      @l_poci_ Před rokem +23

      @@danrazART ngad is the 6th gen project but its just a spelling mistake (my guess)

    • @regarded9702
      @regarded9702 Před rokem +64

      @@l_poci_ no he's on about a new program for single mom kids, New DAD. It replicates their real dead by being so stealthy as to appear as if it weren't there at all.

    • @zs1171
      @zs1171 Před rokem +1

      it would've been another great depression

  • @therobert9521
    @therobert9521 Před rokem +45

    When they first got F-22's at Nellis, the F-16 Aggressor squadron I was in flew for weeks doing 4v2 and 8v2 against them. I don't think they got a single kill on an F-22. One of our pilots came close when he came down out of the clouds and saw a 22 chasing a 16. He tried to gun him but over shot and lost thier only chance at a kill.

  • @RaptorDad
    @RaptorDad Před rokem +736

    Excellent vid as always! Everyone says the Raptor is unproven but the fact is deterrence is the proof. Nations have a rough idea of the capabilities it brings to a fight and want no part of it.

    • @jtho8937
      @jtho8937 Před rokem +40

      Or are trying to get those capabilities for themselves?
      *looks at Su-57*
      Emphasis on "trying"?

    • @retardmoguss
      @retardmoguss Před rokem +2

      @@jtho8937 j20 mighty dragon would like to have a word with u

    • @ToyotaTechnical
      @ToyotaTechnical Před rokem +2

      Aren't F-22s being retired from stress fractures?

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 Před rokem +34

      @@ToyotaTechnical lol no infact they're undergoing upgrades as we speak

    • @TeeDubzz
      @TeeDubzz Před rokem +46

      ​@@jtho8937 SU-57 has a laughably huge thermal signature, and Russia can't afford to make any more of them or fly them

  • @TheIvanNewb
    @TheIvanNewb Před rokem +86

    When they're that close together they can tape a wire from plane-to-plane, thus increasing their collective radar power c:

    • @dsdy1205
      @dsdy1205 Před rokem +4

      Funnily enough I think something like this is on the edge of possible with high bandwidth data link like on the F35

    • @manofchaitea6904
      @manofchaitea6904 Před rokem +4

      They form Radartron?

    • @Just_some_Bible_Stuff
      @Just_some_Bible_Stuff Před rokem +1

      @@manofchaitea6904 and all the pilots waggle their arms and yell in unison.

  • @slimj091
    @slimj091 Před rokem +11

    Imagine being in a flight of 7 fighter's or multi-role fighters, and the next second you are in a flight of 3 with no freaking clue of who is shooting at you.

  • @benwatso
    @benwatso Před rokem +241

    Ive said it before, but ill say it again, its always an amazing time when GS uploads an F-22 vid :)

    • @MrLependu
      @MrLependu Před rokem

      You did mean Spitfire right ?

    • @benwatso
      @benwatso Před rokem +3

      @@MrLependu no?

    • @MrLependu
      @MrLependu Před rokem +1

      @@benwatso I will give your comment a like because i am pretty shure you ment YES :) In defence of my comment - Killing even 100 planes wile flying invisible raptor is not that significant . But killing any gen 4,5,6 in spitfire 1 on 1 would make you a god in eyes of your comrades and GS is a god when it comes to that damn Spitfire

    • @benwatso
      @benwatso Před rokem +3

      @@MrLependu i just like the f-22… i agree a spitfire 1 on 1 takes more skill but the raptor is just fun to watch

  • @637man3
    @637man3 Před rokem +17

    Watching the Eagles fall was gut wrenching... I think it was the clinical ease that led to them dying; no merge, no WEZ-jamming, no opportunity to be the amazing aircraft we've all known them to be. When the heroes of your youth and, truthfully, of your elder years, get led to slaughter with little protest. It's so much different when they have a chance to fight back, the thing about dying on your feet and not your knees comes to mind. The Raptor is aptly named, this was a graphic demonstration of its abilities.

    • @robertopiedimonte2078
      @robertopiedimonte2078 Před rokem

      Magnificent words on the F-15 Eagle tombstone.
      Hunting time is gone now is time to rest after more then 40 years of dominance ❤

  • @nicomeier8098
    @nicomeier8098 Před rokem +21

    "You can't shoot what you can't see".
    Still valid.

    • @DIREWOLFx75
      @DIREWOLFx75 Před 6 měsíci

      Of course you can, you're just not going to hit much.

  • @natec4345
    @natec4345 Před rokem +9

    Very nice. I still can't imagine a real life scenario, considering every pilot has a wingman. So two F-22's is just jaw dropping in the amount of combat superiority. I'd love to see 2 Raptors intercept either a large air convoy or 2 patrol teams of 6 or 7. Migs or F15s will likely suffer the same fate either way but an amazing idea in my opinion to try.

  • @npaul4171
    @npaul4171 Před rokem +204

    It's quite sad the F-22 was cut so early and was never really given a chance to mature. A F-22B with upgraded avionics, an improved/more durable coating, helmet mounted display, and smaller/shorter range missiles to increase missile capacity would have really been something. The F-22 really kind of got the Tomcat treatment if you think about it.

    • @Error-33
      @Error-33 Před rokem +31

      yup both got discontinued bc of cost problems
      F to pay respects
      they still fly them though afaik which is good

    • @pell9538
      @pell9538 Před rokem +25

      Luckily they're being upgraded rn. they're gonna have a helmet mounted display aswell as improved data link

    • @NickThePilotUSA
      @NickThePilotUSA Před rokem +14

      the tomcat treatment but worse. didnt have the exports that saved the tomcat program (tomcat was due to be withdrawn in 1981 before the shah bought them)

    • @leadleghighkick104
      @leadleghighkick104 Před rokem +3

      F-35 kinda overtakes the F-22 though

    • @whitenoise509
      @whitenoise509 Před rokem +37

      @@leadleghighkick104 Completely different mission set. While there is some amount of overlap in most airborne offensive platforms, in no way is it reasonable to suggest the f-35 would take over the f-22's core directives.

  • @debbiestimac5175
    @debbiestimac5175 Před rokem +23

    Your cinematics are getting very good. Lovely transitions!

  • @xxZerosumxx
    @xxZerosumxx Před rokem +8

    The last guy, as he ejects, sees who shot them down.
    Pilot: Hey, thats an F-22. He's on our side. Isnt he? WTF!

  • @stephenwest6738
    @stephenwest6738 Před rokem +7

    The new F-15 EX has definitely have great upgrades and newer tech retrofitted, but F-22 pilots have described the ease by which they dispatch 4th and even some 5th gen fighters as “clubbing baby seals”

  • @MisterPLD672
    @MisterPLD672 Před rokem +6

    I met one of the original flight instructors of the f-15, he told me when the f-22 came out it outperformed the f-15 100-1 in simulated wargames. the f-15 couldnt touch it.

  • @labulabd5609
    @labulabd5609 Před rokem +30

    Really appreciate how often you’re posting recently, these videos are always awesome!

  • @GooseUW
    @GooseUW Před rokem +8

    Great video! Sharing this with my dad. We went to 60th anniversary Air Force air show at Nellis and met an Aggressor pilot who said the same... that they go up 8x F-15 v 2x F-22 and it isn't even a contest 😵

  • @DIBgmail
    @DIBgmail Před rokem +18

    Seems like this is one of those scenarios where after either downing 4 of a 7 flight or 6/7 and being out of AMRAAMS, the F-22 would simply leave. Of course that's not as fun for these purposes.

  • @Terpenesteve
    @Terpenesteve Před rokem +46

    Man I love these kinda fights! You know a F22 paired with F15's would be a dream team though! One for sight and one for a tank of missiles!
    Awesome video GS as always!!!!

    • @JoshReynoldsWhoaSci-fi
      @JoshReynoldsWhoaSci-fi Před rokem

      I think that's pretty much airforce doctrine? Send in stealth to neutralize AA and then send in the missle trucks.

    • @VisibilityFoggy
      @VisibilityFoggy Před rokem +1

      That's the plan, and why the F-15EX exists, lol.

    • @randominternetguy88
      @randominternetguy88 Před rokem

      That's the precise reason why the Eagle IIs were created. Raptors are air superiority machines - they secure the air space.
      The Eagle IIs are missile arsenals - they ravage the battlefield.

    • @manofchaitea6904
      @manofchaitea6904 Před rokem

      Would be nice if we do silent eagles. Front cross section is as stealthy as an F35.

  • @USN1985dos
    @USN1985dos Před rokem +1

    7:11 "Allllll by mysellllllf. Don't wanna be, allllll byyyyy myyyyyseeellllllfff"

  • @williamabaker12
    @williamabaker12 Před rokem +22

    The F-15 is such an iconic airplane. It's painful to watch them be so outmatched. Just goes to show the sheer dominance of the F22. God help anyone who has to be in that position.

    • @deadshot4245
      @deadshot4245 Před rokem +1

      nope don't help em let their last few moments be of sheer agony and fear

  • @andersanderson9121
    @andersanderson9121 Před rokem +19

    So insane how such a dominant air to air platform like the F-15 just gets eaten like nothing. Would love to see this fight with a SU-57 instead of the Raptor

  • @Netbug
    @Netbug Před rokem +10

    After years, I stopped playing DCS to focus on some retro titles again... it's been amazing. Sometimes less is more, and it's easy to overlook lack of fidelity when it's a matter of hardware limitations. Just finished 3 Longbow campaigns and am now on to F-15.

  • @Velanestar
    @Velanestar Před rokem +10

    7:25
    In this situation I'd likely have fled, tried to get as much speed on the f22 as humanly possible and bolt- not try to search and fight.

    • @theelf152
      @theelf152 Před rokem +1

      Exactly F15 does Mach 2.5 V F22 Mach'2.2

    • @Velanestar
      @Velanestar Před rokem +1

      @@theelf152 it's not a guarantee but by God it is more in favor of the f15 to gain altitude and speed then the f22 lol

  • @Ferocious_Imbecile
    @Ferocious_Imbecile Před rokem +18

    That was beautiful. I'm not quite sure what you did there, whether it was the map or the weather conditions or maybe you're using a RTX 3090Ti or something but that was pure eye candy.

  • @solidsanders
    @solidsanders Před rokem +2

    absolutely LOVE your content man, gets me eager to play DCS i just dont have the equipment yet😁

  • @SantanaTelevision
    @SantanaTelevision Před rokem +7

    This just shows the immense power of stealth. It also shows the triad of combat. If you can’t see, you can’t fight. If you can’t breathe you can’t fight. If you can’t stand, you can’t fight.

  • @Matrix-ul7zd
    @Matrix-ul7zd Před rokem +10

    Do Mig31 with hypersonic missle vs f 22

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer Před rokem

      Niet.
      Niet.
      Niet.
      Yob tvoyu mat!
      (boom)
      Wouldn’t be much of a fight. Fancy missile can’t do anything if it can’t lock on.

  • @shepherdlavellen3301
    @shepherdlavellen3301 Před rokem +15

    There was a saying in China back when F-22 came out: 7 J-7 (Mig 21) for 1 F-22. That saying aged like milk

  • @michaelguard9647
    @michaelguard9647 Před rokem +5

    “Honestly, it wasn’t even that hard”, said any F-22 pilot 😆

  • @TyinAlaska
    @TyinAlaska Před rokem +1

    Such a good video. I love the multiple bogies vs F22 videos!

  • @Thomas-zc4vh
    @Thomas-zc4vh Před rokem +50

    Hey Growling Sidewinder! I love your videos and would like see...
    Su-57 vs everything,
    Also F-16 vs everything?
    The donkey plane was very good! I think you should do it vs the F-22.
    I would love to see these fights! Thanks!

    • @Thomas-zc4vh
      @Thomas-zc4vh Před rokem +7

      I-16 (Donkey) vs F-22
      And, or do the F-16 vs I-16.

    • @panan7777
      @panan7777 Před rokem

      By the time the russians have two squadrons, the US will have 10 of the sixth generation.
      Comparing the plane that is barely operational and total number is around SIX is just meaningless. It's still not certain that they finally got proper engines.
      The time for the Ru to be a real air power is gone...

    • @regular7156
      @regular7156 Před rokem

      @@panan7777 The Russians and Chinese are catching up but not fast and good enough compared to the US Navy and Airforce

    • @ayugoslav5554
      @ayugoslav5554 Před rokem +1

      @@regular7156 cope harder yankee

    • @regular7156
      @regular7156 Před rokem

      @@ayugoslav5554 seethe harder Slav when one single B-2 spirit bombs your entire family on a hiding shed in Romania.

  • @sriho6461
    @sriho6461 Před rokem +16

    Actually there’s 1 and only 1 case where an Eagle was shot down by an aircraft. Not in actual combat but the Japan’s JSDF lost an F-15J to a AIM-7L accidentally fired by another F-15J during ACM training back in 95.

    • @ayugoslav5554
      @ayugoslav5554 Před rokem +1

      There's an Israeli F15 that was shot by a Syrian MiG21 MF lol

  • @rogerhinman5427
    @rogerhinman5427 Před rokem

    1 was watching the 7v1 Korean Mig 29 V F-15 video last night thinking you needed to do this again. Thanks!

  • @TIP009
    @TIP009 Před rokem

    I’ve never been this earlier before lol! Love the content man! I watch your videos like they’re lectures!
    I’m still learning, but you got me into an f-16 so keep up the awesome vids!

  • @rring44
    @rring44 Před rokem +6

    I'd like to see a 2 v 1 guns fight, like 2 Gen4s vs 1 F22. Might be interesting.

  • @deanlawson6880
    @deanlawson6880 Před rokem +1

    Wow that was awesome! Great video!

  • @TOPGUNKHA
    @TOPGUNKHA Před rokem +2

    1:00 what a sight to see Eagle drivers 🦅🫡

  • @pale_2111
    @pale_2111 Před rokem +17

    I'd like to see a ground strike mission with the F-15EX with support from the F-22.

  • @murph3194
    @murph3194 Před rokem +10

    I am such an F-22 fanboy. This video was dope. 4:13 in seeing the sky raining fire was great. Well done and great video.

  • @MrCyp200la
    @MrCyp200la Před rokem +1

    Awesome flying and video💪

  • @Zackattack123
    @Zackattack123 Před rokem +2

    THE GOAT DOES IT AGAIN great vid as always

  • @oddy1637
    @oddy1637 Před rokem +7

    It was absurdly advantageous for the F22. Nice.

  • @Skhmt
    @Skhmt Před rokem +16

    Imagine if a raptor driver made ace in like 1 minute by yeeting 5 AMRAAMs all at once and basically instantly splashing 5 enemy fighters.

    • @GenericLandscapePhotographer
      @GenericLandscapePhotographer Před rokem

      It'd mean something different nowadays when you can get a bunch of BVR kills in a single fight whereas back in the day, becoming an ace meant like surviving and winning multiple dogfights lol

    • @Skhmt
      @Skhmt Před rokem

      @@GenericLandscapePhotographer now days it's probably rarer to even engage in air-to-air combat than it was to have aces in WW2.

  • @LuisDiaz-fs8uh
    @LuisDiaz-fs8uh Před rokem

    Just ordered my Viper T-shirt to wear at the Orange County air show in 10 days! Keep up the great work GS!

  • @rippervtol9516
    @rippervtol9516 Před rokem +1

    I remember a story from the wargames in Alaska when the F-22 was very new, the first time the 15's saw the F-22 was when it formed up on there wing

  • @oreoproblems
    @oreoproblems Před rokem +11

    The F-15’s the father of the F-22. Every generation gets better.

  • @Wokefolksuck
    @Wokefolksuck Před rokem +3

    Please give us F-35 vs Su-35 BVR!!!!!
    Thanks for another awesome video!

  • @keithpowell1357
    @keithpowell1357 Před rokem +1

    You should have formed up with the last one, it worked on you once 😂😂👍 Nice video thanks for the up load

  • @sjpeckham1
    @sjpeckham1 Před rokem

    great video; keep them coming!

  • @jkil218
    @jkil218 Před rokem +26

    It's crazy to think the f15 has been around 40plus years without a loss.

    • @vasilije94
      @vasilije94 Před rokem +12

      Not really that crazy. There is literally no competition. All american pilots are extremely trained and planes are always kept under the best service and always upgraded and all that makes extremely big difference. In other poor countries the flight hours of pilots are REALLY low. Its mostly theory training and that is not enough against most trained crews. Not to mention that everytime USA was attacking someone they had support of AVAX, satelites and other equipment that improve capabilities by a big margin. Other countries that were attacked by USA don't have that, like not even close to it so its not really surprising. Its basically the same as when Nazi Germany attacked Poland in WW2. The difference in military is huge. Now if other countries had same military budget and training, it would be actually interesting to see.

    • @Devin7Eleven
      @Devin7Eleven Před rokem

      @@vasilije94 The whole US military strategy is to ensure no other country on the planet can compete. Thats why we spend B I L L I O N S on military.

    • @drksideofthewal
      @drksideofthewal Před rokem +15

      @@vasilije94
      To be fair, the US isn’t the only operator of the F-15. Israel and Saudi Arabia have seen some action with them as well.

    • @ObeyNoLies
      @ObeyNoLies Před rokem

      There is evidence to show that one was 'destroyed' by a maneuver kill in Iraq and that the US government covered it up.

    • @danpatterson8009
      @danpatterson8009 Před rokem

      With any luck they'll retire that way.

  • @ryjtse
    @ryjtse Před rokem +5

    Second!
    I think this channel has the highest quality DCS content around

  • @dmkolb1977
    @dmkolb1977 Před rokem +2

    The military did this several years ago. It was five F-15s against one F-22. The F-22 killed them all before the F-15s could even pick it up on radar.

  • @chrishaug
    @chrishaug Před rokem

    awsome! would be fun to see a F-22 vs F-22 fight, make it all about tactics and the best pilot out there

  • @furbyguy
    @furbyguy Před rokem +1

    Awesome! So cool to see that bird in action.

  • @TictacAddict1
    @TictacAddict1 Před rokem +43

    What would happen if upon initial engagement, you did not desend into contrail airspace but flew 90° of the group? If they couldn't see you on radar wouldn't that set you up for a better 2 missile salvo and positioning for last F15? Curious as to why you defend when they can't see you?

    • @mac2857
      @mac2857 Před rokem +5

      exactly there was no point to even defend or even crank in this case

    • @fade812
      @fade812 Před rokem +10

      Why to defend? Guess he got used to it 😅

    • @galumir
      @galumir Před rokem +21

      By flying 90 degrees off the group he would no longer be able to illuminate the targets with radar, and thereby much reducing the probability of hitting with his missiles.
      Instead of cranking and reducing altitude, stealth might enable him to continue on high. As for not defending at all, flying straight ahead would probably have put him within visual range of the eagles which would not be desirable even if the initial four missiles hit. Even irl outside of the known dcs engagement and detection ranges, I would assume that reducing the closure rate after launching upon hostiles would be a very desirable procedure even with stealth aircraft, as stealth afford superior standoff capabilities which would be reduced by closing in.

    • @Steve-yr5vi
      @Steve-yr5vi Před rokem +1

      Why defined at all after the 4 missile initial salvo? they didn't spot him on launch and were defending? would have been a quicker more merciful end for them vs. making them stress for an additional few minutes. Why the cruelty?

    • @wamanning
      @wamanning Před rokem +3

      agree. i'd like to see this exact scenario, but keep pushing forward after the intial salvo, stay high and fast presenting your lowest RCS profile, keep the bandits busy with slammers, keep pushing launch your last 2 fox3s, keep pushing until you're in fox2 range and finish off #7 in less time. RTB in time for a latte.

  • @The_Elder_Weeb
    @The_Elder_Weeb Před rokem +6

    Honestly I think it’s time we finally did a BVR fight between an F-22 and an F-35. Also would love see more F-35 videos involving BVR

    • @mynameismin3
      @mynameismin3 Před rokem +2

      Agreed. USAF, USN, USMC, and most US allies are or will be flying them soon. Lets see its capabilities in BVR against both 4th gen and 5th gen adversaries.

    • @The_Elder_Weeb
      @The_Elder_Weeb Před rokem

      @@mynameismin3 I’m actually surprised he hasn’t done more F-35 BVR videos considering he said it’s one of his favorites when he did the F-35 vs F-22 dogfight video

  • @janpost8598
    @janpost8598 Před rokem +1

    It's crazy how beautiful the surroundings are.

  • @pemtax557
    @pemtax557 Před rokem

    There is no question that the Pilot has a ton of influence on who will and won't survive any air2air action ... "IF" the hardware is somewhat on a level field.
    This Sim just illustrated just how much tech/hardware can influence that field. The Eagle dominated for decades batting 1.000 ...give the other side a bit of time and resource and the field can level quickly. My point being ... don't give sides B, C & D the time and opportunity to level!!!
    Cheers .... another fun and informative video. Cheers!!

  • @bluearmy6847
    @bluearmy6847 Před rokem +3

    The F-22 really needs a challenger to compete with or something similar to dominate the air, but the F-15 was close enough. GG

    • @sharequsman596
      @sharequsman596 Před rokem

      Do u mean in terms of vaibility for the us airforce or this vid?Cuz this wasnt close

    • @Citadin
      @Citadin Před rokem

      Su57, provided the Russians have ground or AWACS tech that could spot the F22, which might be the case. The point being that the Su57 was designed to fight near A2AD Russian areas.

  • @seamusmaher3600
    @seamusmaher3600 Před rokem +27

    So, do you think that your odds of survival would've dropped drastically had there been just one more eagle? (assuming it was flown by an experienced pilot, of course)

    • @andrewrogers3067
      @andrewrogers3067 Před rokem +10

      No, an F22 with just its machine gun annihilates the F15E due to its absurd flight model.
      Honestly if it wasn’t for the circumstance that lead him to missing that shot it would have been just as easy. Honestly, if he timed all his shots well, he could kill 9 F15Es without much trouble. The 22 in DCS is really that good.

    • @beaclaster
      @beaclaster Před rokem

      @@andrewrogers3067 don't even pretty old jets use gatlings now?

    • @theelf152
      @theelf152 Před rokem +1

      @@andrewrogers3067 It can't kill 9 if it can only carry 6 in bay. Anything it carries outside make it detectable. The 15 can outrun the 22 also

    • @Vanity43
      @Vanity43 Před rokem +2

      @@theelf152 Can't outrun the 22s missles though.

  • @emirbozkurt6188
    @emirbozkurt6188 Před rokem

    Love the content your great my favourite dcs channel!

  • @brandonquintana9943
    @brandonquintana9943 Před rokem +2

    I gre up with the F-14. Old school. Tracked an entire squadron. 24 targets at 24 miles. Fire and forget but that F-22 is an amazing machine

  • @sinisterisrandom8537
    @sinisterisrandom8537 Před rokem +3

    I wonder how well the YF-23 would perform against the F-22.
    Or the A-10 vs what was meant to be the A-9 but never was so YA-9

    • @RaderizDorret
      @RaderizDorret Před rokem

      From what I've seen of the YA-9, it would basically be a Su-25. As for the YF-23, per Northrop it was faster and stealthier than the F-22 but the F-22 was the better dogfighter.

  • @FeelXable
    @FeelXable Před rokem +3

    Excuse the stupid question, but which map are you playing this on? Great Video!

  • @baomao7243
    @baomao7243 Před rokem

    GS, i think you literally recreated the military test fights where the F-22 would go like 1v6 and just kill everyone. Amazing.

  • @Forscythe80
    @Forscythe80 Před rokem +1

    When its the F-22... The title should have been "F-22 Raptor goes seal clubbing".

  • @wanttobeprivate7466
    @wanttobeprivate7466 Před rokem +3

    Need to see 1 F 22 vs 45 North Korean Mig 29's next, after all 2 eagles are superior to 10 NK Mig 29's, so if the F-22 beats 7 eagles...

  • @Dos895
    @Dos895 Před rokem +3

    Love seeing the F-22 carnage.

  • @SirMattomaton
    @SirMattomaton Před rokem +1

    Sir... you straight up *disrespected* their asses. LMAO!

  • @technowelliebobs4779
    @technowelliebobs4779 Před rokem +1

    Each adversary of the US needs to see this...

  • @mikejock18familyx34
    @mikejock18familyx34 Před rokem +7

    I think you should do a real world f22 vs su57 in the same environment no clues let’s see how good the f22 really is 👍

    • @nerobernardino88
      @nerobernardino88 Před rokem

      I think a few vids like these were made already on this channel.

    • @mikejock18familyx34
      @mikejock18familyx34 Před rokem

      Yeah no dog fights real one f22 vs 2 su 57 in a who finds who first. Think the su57 would need 2 of them due to f22 being so deadly and undetectable. Only problem is he’s got to get one killed before the merge

    • @mikejock18familyx34
      @mikejock18familyx34 Před rokem

      @Leon Guerero 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @immikeurnot
      @immikeurnot Před rokem

      Real world? Su-57 wouldn't even be there. There are, what, 2 prototypes? The thing is never going to be deployed, and it's doubtful that outside supermaneuverability it has anything that's even close to matching any of the F-22's capabilities.

  • @Cameron0214
    @Cameron0214 Před rokem +4

    How about some F-35 bvr stuff? Speaking of red flag stuff the F-35 has started showing up in aggressor squadrons and being a nightmare for blue forces. According to the latest scuttlebutt they were even downing F-22's

    • @mynameismin3
      @mynameismin3 Před rokem +2

      Agreed. Want something like this with F-35 vs multiple adversaries. Or a pair of F-35 vs 8 flankers.

  • @williamstellmon7565
    @williamstellmon7565 Před rokem +2

    Would love to see F-35 vs J-20 BVR

  • @kerryjohnson1030
    @kerryjohnson1030 Před rokem +1

    Lol at that point when he finally got a lock he should've spammed like 2 or 3 😂😂

  • @lilsmoot4488
    @lilsmoot4488 Před rokem +7

    Once again demonstrating the prowess of the Raptor and how overpowered it is (at least in DCS). Good video.

    • @jakelavaclaw2759
      @jakelavaclaw2759 Před rokem +10

      I'd say the raptor in DCS has less capabilities than a real one

    • @lilsmoot4488
      @lilsmoot4488 Před rokem +2

      @@jakelavaclaw2759 Maybe, but there's no way to know that. It's completely classified.

    • @jakelavaclaw2759
      @jakelavaclaw2759 Před rokem

      @@lilsmoot4488 Real shit

    • @teaser874
      @teaser874 Před rokem +3

      Totally overpowered. I don't believe it has near the stealth capability that is shown on DCS

    • @lilsmoot4488
      @lilsmoot4488 Před rokem +1

      @@teaser874 perhaps, perhaps not

  • @krismurphy7711
    @krismurphy7711 Před rokem +11

    Basic Question: IF "notching" is so effective, how did these AMRAAMS have such a high probability of kills??

    • @gaiofattos2
      @gaiofattos2 Před rokem +3

      In 1980's notching wasn't very effective Vs F-15C it wouldn't be vs 2000's F-22.

    • @ronniesalt5256
      @ronniesalt5256 Před rokem +5

      Pretty hard to notch an AMRAAM from what I know

    • @m_swizzy22
      @m_swizzy22 Před rokem +7

      Distance has a big part in the probability of kill… lower the distance, the bigger the signature of the aircraft that the missiles radar sees, essentially impossible to trick an AMRAAM to follow chaff, the Russian missiles are much more prone to chaff/jamming, unless they are the electro optical missiles.

    • @newdeathscope
      @newdeathscope Před rokem +5

      To notch a missile, you need to know the the line the missile is on from the shooter to the shoote. If you can't see where the shot came from, you can't notch it.

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Před rokem +19

      Amraams are very difficult to notch especially if you’re really high and the PK was high because they missiles were fired at like 40k+ at Mach 1.2+ from like 27miles. That almost 100% guarantees a hit.

  • @Mr51Caveman
    @Mr51Caveman Před rokem +1

    I worked F-15's off and on for 24 yrs starting in the late 70's. My last Fighter was the F-22 before I retired. BUT I loved the 15! (Also got to fly in one for an incentive ride back around 1982)

  • @iscrubsoapmctavish9311

    Now you gotta do it up close. Guns only lmao. Love your stuff

  • @uglykid555111
    @uglykid555111 Před rokem +14

    While the F22 is "invisible" to them, watching other videos they easily break the lock of AIM120 shots. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen anyone go 6 for 6 with 120 shots. Why are 120 shots from the F22 different?

    • @y2kcobrar
      @y2kcobrar Před rokem +20

      F-22 has a very capable radar, he's lobbing them from very high and fast. Makes them very dangerous.

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer Před rokem +13

      @@y2kcobrar also if you know where it’s coming from you have a plan in mind of how to evade.
      If it’s out of nowhere OODA takes a bit longer.

    • @281cu6
      @281cu6 Před rokem +10

      @@y2kcobrar You can have an amazing radar (F15EX should be on-par), but the AIM120s have a max range that is far below what the plane can see with radar. They are only medium range missiles.
      I think @Justanotherconsumer has the right idea. The F22 can get closer without getting detected and fire AIM120s from well within a range that will be impossible to dodge. The closer, higher, and faster a missile is, the more energy the defender has to defeat. In this scenario, it was impossible to survive.

    • @y2kcobrar
      @y2kcobrar Před rokem +2

      @@281cu6 dont forget that the higherand faster the missile is launched the more range it will have.

    • @deadshot4245
      @deadshot4245 Před rokem +3

      hes extremely high fast and that makes those missiles have extended range and puts them inside the mar and being hard to detect you dont know where the missile is fired when it was fire and the actual Mar so youll push in while they are Tws locked not knowing you are already dead. its basically hard to defend from something that you dont know when to defend from it

  • @slayerofmidgets3201
    @slayerofmidgets3201 Před rokem +5

    It's kinda a shame the f22 won't see any air to air combat, I don't think there's a fighter any pilot wouldn't feel safer in

    • @CCitis
      @CCitis Před rokem

      You better hope it won’t

    • @Mike_Romeo
      @Mike_Romeo Před rokem +1

      Lol, I hope there wont be any conflict big enough requireing the F-22

    • @CCitis
      @CCitis Před rokem

      @@Mike_Romeo exactly

  • @RealChrisinAZ
    @RealChrisinAZ Před rokem

    I always enjoy your content!

  • @hubril7921
    @hubril7921 Před rokem +2

    "Mobius 1, engage!"

  • @rageknight2340
    @rageknight2340 Před rokem +4

    Well, according to the USAF during training one single F22 shot down 4 F15C, so this is not surprising at all. I don’t know capable the other so called “gen 5” are but the F22 is one scary jet, and to think the F23 was more in deadly in BVR engagement.

    • @FBI-UIU
      @FBI-UIU Před rokem

      Sadly, she didn't win the competition

  • @Anarchy_420
    @Anarchy_420 Před rokem +4

    Mirage F-1 VS Panavia Tornado
    Mosquito VS Pucara
    F-4 Phantom VS A-4 Skyhawk
    MIG-28 VS MIG-29
    F-16I Sufa VS F-15STOL/MTD Fox2 Dogfight!
    MB-339 Aerimacchi VS AJS37 Viggen
    J-10 VS SU-27
    F4U Corsair VS MIG-15
    F-22 VS Nine North Korean MIG-29's BVR!
    T-45 Goshawk VS F-14 Tomcat Test Fight!
    F-35 VS Two MIG-31's/R-37M's BVR!
    Please fly Planes on the left!👍👍

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 Před rokem +2

      AH-64 Apache VS Ka-50 Kamov
      UH-1H VS Mi-8

    • @VivekGupta-ft9el
      @VivekGupta-ft9el Před rokem +1

      Mig 28.?? I think you are highly inspired by Topgun movie 😁

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 Před rokem +1

      @@VivekGupta-ft9el I just like the idea of older fictional VS newer real both flying their respective Soviet/Russian colors of their time...
      Plus I think it'll be a challenging and entertaining fight! One worthy of GS skills

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 Před rokem +1

      My F-22 Raptor VS Nine North Korean MIG-29's BVR request is another one I get a lot of comments about how The F-22 doesn't have nine missiles lol I'm well aware! GS will have to get creative on the last kill possibly last couple of kills ;)

  • @bilalshafi9386
    @bilalshafi9386 Před rokem +1

    @3:12 there is an epic shot for wallpaper F-22 4x AMRAAM

  • @husnainanwaar1992
    @husnainanwaar1992 Před rokem +1

    the distant boom sound effect is amazing so addictive

  • @myplane150
    @myplane150 Před rokem +3

    If this a an accurate representation of the Raptor, I don't know how anyone could realistically have a single chance in Hell of beating the thing. SU57 and J20 be damned. Not gonna happen.
    BTW, if I had been that Eagle driver, I would have sent at least 5 AMRAAMS after the F22.
    (how many were on the Eagles?)

    • @jaroslaveman2733
      @jaroslaveman2733 Před rokem +3

      Yeah, but AMRAAMs need radar lock... The F-15s need to be really close to the Raptor if they want to lock it and even then, AMRAAM is for medium range... You can't really use them effectively against the F-22...

    • @lobster838
      @lobster838 Před rokem +1

      It looks like 12 amraams on each eagle from the shot at 4:28

  • @fredoman1323
    @fredoman1323 Před rokem +5

    "It wasn't even that hard." Okay, so based on this simulation and this anecdotal experience you've had vs. multiples, could you elaborate a similar simulation vs SU-27s, F-16s and Mig-29s? Similar or worse for each? My estimate would be 9x SU-27s, 11x F-16s and 357x Mig-29s. Sound about right? 😝

    • @nobleman-swerve
      @nobleman-swerve Před rokem +4

      These matchups are hard to properly gauge, as the particulars of radar performance and RCS profiles are some of the most closely guarded secrets of these airframes. For what it's worth, in a BVR fight the EX has a vastly superior radar suite than anything else you mentioned. It would only get worse for everyone else.

    • @galumir
      @galumir Před rokem +2

      Within DCS, results would most likely extremely similar, albeit that the inclusion of data link for the Viper and flankers might give them a slightly better chance due to the increase in situational awareness - though all that is for naught if you're being shit out of the sky before ever detecting the raptor on radar first.

  • @lawyeroutlaw
    @lawyeroutlaw Před rokem +2

    Not to mention that after they FENCE-in, Eagles like to form up in an "Eagle Wall"

  • @arrielradja5522
    @arrielradja5522 Před rokem +1

    A King with no enemy
    May long he reign