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Stealth Package | B-2 Spirit + F-22 Raptor Vs Su-57 Felon & Su-35 Flanker | Digital Combat Simulator
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Hope you guys are enjoying the new "Penetration" series lol. Thanks for watching, see you in the next one.
Plz more episodes.
Ehh, these videos are really interesting. I like the tacview bebriefs too. Keep the penetration series up
This was an awesome video!👍👍👍
Great Work, Fantastic Content. Thank You GS.
I like these new videos, really feels like a real engagement
These mission/objective based videos that you have been doing recently have been some of my favorites! Keep em' coming!
Came to say the same! Love it. Especially as Russia becomes more of a threat to world peace and then even China and Taiwan then next some years are going to be insane.
it's so unreal. kinda sad.
agreed!
Amen
Same
seeing a B2 in DCS is so sick
That's what I'm sayin
Can't wait for the B21
That was awesome!
@@possiblepilotdeviation5791 what
@@possiblepilotdeviation5791 i like the Forest Gump quote
I used to see B2's all the time when I was flying near Whiteman, they're so cool when you see them in the air with you. Nothing quite as intimidating as hearing "Death 1-2, traffic 12 O'clock, 5 miles, opposite direction, 3,000, Cessna 172" over ATC, then seeing one of those guys pass 1,000 feet above you.
Their callsigns were just death 😂
@@ImperiumLibertas Oh yeah, It was always either "Death" or "Reaper" 😂
@@dumbpilot7733 😂 perfect
@@dumbpilot7733that's fantastic
Can airport radar see them?
Imagine that IL-76 pilot
:"Then it's a dog fight"
:"In an IL-76? Against 5th gen fighter?"
:"It's not the plane...it's the..." (crashes)
Underrated comment
"Bah, he only has guns! And we still have one eng-"
the f22 was like - "he's tryna dogfight? Aww cute. Fox 2 motherfu-"
B-2’s would never fly in a group like this enhancing their radar signature.
good observation
That’s the reason why they locked on so fast good observation
i thought the same thing
Good point I didn't even think of that at first. No wonder stealth airstrikes are often always "go it alone" mission.
They'd also never be "escorted" by anything. B-2's way stealthier than even the F-22 so escorting them is just asking to get shot down.
I'd really love it if we could see some more of these objective-based missions with the f-35. See what it can really do
It will show what the F-35 can do in DCS. Not what the F-35 can do.
Good fun, to be sure, but hardly documentary.
F35 isnt combat tested thats why you use F22 on American side.
You want to use the best US stealth fighter right ? F22 is insta click for many
@@its-butters58 the old radars prob never detected it in 2000s and big flex they kept quiet about ever using F22 but did use in fact theres no way it isnt used.
@@Meteorknite English much?😂
It's highly classified, so we would never be able to see what it can do. At least until the generation 6 fighters roll out in 1 year
loss of a b2 is pretty heavy, but losing 2 su-35s, 2 su-57s, an AWACS, an "important dude" and an air base is a pretty heavy loss too
It's only two guys, and they can eject. I'm sure they're hankering to get into the seats of a B-21 Raider after this.
@@h8GW I am sorry to inform you, the B-2 crew did not survive.
Losing a 2 billion dollar airplane is not lighter than then 2 mass produced fighters and a pair of SU-57s. Especially when the B2 can’t be replaced.
In reality this would be a disastrous outcome for the US all that will matter is that a B2 was shot down by an SU35. But obviously in reality they'd never send 3 B2s escorted by just a single raptor
@@ahmadrefaat3460 Definitely. There's be at least a couple more and it'd make more sense to me for the Raptors to be out ahead to intercept whatever gets airborne with the objective to down them before they can even think about targeting the B-2s.
That WWI / WWII experience is showing, when you target a specific part of the plane with guns. Great mission, great video! I shudder to think what that 2nd AWACS was feeling, watching your buddy get shot down on takeoff and watching your base explode during taxi, knowing that there's an F-22 lurking in the bushes but needing to get airborne. No good options for that guy.
Only option probably would be to wag the wingtips to indicate surrender and power down the array.
Life eject to Valhalla
@@aznmarty256 lol, surrender not accepted.
@@aznmarty256 Lol that's what I was thinking
My heart sunk when the first B2 got shot down.
RIP Spirit
This has got to be the most perfect flight sim video I've ever seen. First clicked 'like' just because of the title, stealth absolutely everywhere, and then it seems watched an action movie made with such attention to detail and perfect timings. Best time spent on Tube. 5/5
So I'm watching this with my 9-week old son on my lap, right? He's focused on the screen and cries every time I move in such a way that means he can't see. Then when you picked off the AWACS he was making happy cooing noises.
Future F-22 pilot, methinks! Definitely a brand-new GS fan for you!
Loooool very cool, loved reading that thanks for sharing. 9 weeks old and he already knows what he likes 👍
No screen time for babies, avoid irreversible damage to their mental faculties and intelligence, as well as developing adhd and all kinds of similar sht🙈😢
No screen time until school.
@@copetimusmaximus3363 He doesn't get "screen time", but if he turns his head to see the screen while I am watching, I'm not forcibly turning it back, doing ACTUAL damage to him...
@@copetimusmaximus3363 Good on you for trying to help, but with all due respect you have no idea what you're talking about in regards to ADHD.
@@hrodebertcoad9848 doesn't really matter how's it called, it causes irreversible damage to brain development, inability to focus on tasks like reading (text, not comics), thinking, etc.
The tough thing about DCS is that they're not able to model the B-2's TS defensive capabilities accurately (well, at all). Plane wouldn't have gone down like that.
Spirit looks absolutely amazing flying from that angle
@@possiblepilotdeviation5791 my guess is the opening
@@possiblepilotdeviation5791 Thank you. People act like time stamps don't exist.
@@possiblepilotdeviation5791 all of them
With all these 5th Gen matchups I really want to see the F35 fight the Su57
Death. Immediate death
@@Just_A_Random_Desk yeah, it's not even remotly close to reality.
It’s not meant to fight like a raptor. The f35 is a super computer with the aerobatics of a f16. But he did it already
I don’t get it. You want a multi role plane fight against air superiority aircraft? F35 was never intended to spearhead any invasions on its own. It’s a part of integrated system that relies on many different platforms to do its job.
@@Paralysisbyanlysis this channel has made several air superiority vs multirole videos,this isn't different. And the F-35 would kick the Su-57s ass to hell and back
"I see a missile in the air..."
*turns towards it and increases throttle*
😎
Some Red October shit right there
Kamikaze
I love videos like this. The mission/objective ones are super interesting. Feels like they have more depth
I would love to see you working with others to defend or attack like this. Kinda like a real US vs RU engagement
“SU-57s are no longer a problem” POV F-22 entered the airspace😂
Imagine if in Top Gun Maverick the Air Force had taken the mission instead of the Navy. Would’ve gone so much differently.
Would absolutely love to see some more stealth missions with the B2 from its perspective! There’s so little content with them in action.
This is your best video to date. The mission and that ominous soundtrack in the background really made it something special. I could feel the tension in my stomach. Nice work!
And for a moment I though I could hear... singing.
AWACS gun kill, always my favorite part.
that a-50 trying to dodge was cool.
Interesting mission set-up. I know. You're going after the entertainment factor. The B-2 has a Radar Cross Section (RCS) of about 1.1 sq ft. The B-21's RCS is reported to be the size of a BB. Try this mission again at night, which would be the actual condition of a B-2 and B-21 strike mission. In addition to that, the mission profile would be a stand-off weapons delivery, not a direct, overhead, bomb drop. This could be limited by the simulator. but, I understand why you would want a day-time mission set-up. I enjoy your channel and am a subscriber. Good work and a good imagination.
Yeah. The B-21 main weapon will be(I think) cruise missiles, STEALTH cruise missiles, not conventional bombs for sure.
Funny thing about stealth: its effectiveness is highly dependent on the frequency of the radar that's illuminating it. The RCS may be tiny at 3 GHz but it's not necessarily going to be at 3 MHz. Of course, lower frequency means longer wavelength means less resolution, so it's useless as anything other than an early warning, but they'll definitely know something's there.
Also, distance is a factor. At some point your plane is going to be getting hit by enough energy that it doesn't matter how small your cross section is. Hence why GS talks about "burn-through" on the stealth. The goal is to get your missile into that range, and then it can do the rest.
Always love the bwaaaaaaa trumpets (or whatever it's call) sets a great tone for all occasions. Birthdays, Christmas, the Apocalypse, all are made better with a good bwaaaaaaa
I like blasting it on the car stereo whenever I drive down to Juarez.
I like that mournful tune he plays when somebody dies. I'd use it at my funeral.
But, I plan to be late.
@@kekelaward "welcome to Juarez"
That was fun to watch! I like the objective type missions and seeing the strategies used.
Really liking these mission based vids especially with the modern aircraft and AIM 120 Ds. Keep all of it up. The mini docs, the dogfights, the bvr and these missions are all great :) Would love to see more tackview too cause I'm still learning and seeing what you're really doing like that is super helpful :)
@7:50 😆 🤣 😂 GS talked the talk and walked the walk lol. Awesome job splashing those 2 Felons!
13:08 - 13:26 This looks like something straight out of an action movie, DCS World is just incredible
Something out of top gun
Pretty sure three B2s would never have a single escort....great vid as always!
It'd either be a single flight of two B-2s with a four-ship of escorts, or two flights of two B-2s each with their own four-ship of escorts. The Air Force likes their even numbers.
Here’s your nonstealth navy penetration for the CZcams algorithm.
7:50
"It's a good thing they got four new ones because imma bout to cross two of them off the list"
Savage
The high value target was actually hiding in that tree you hit, good job figuring him out and eliminating him!
Love the mission videos! If you would have had a wingman may not have lost the B-2.
The mission is not even close to reality, so i think is cuz GS tried to keep it simple...
Close*
And I'm pretty sure Air Force doctrine wouldn't have let him go up solo. At bare minimum a two-ship, more likely a flight of four. Even if the Flankers got their first salvo off, they wouldn't have gotten a second.
If any of the adversaries would be a player controlled aircraft, may have lost all 3.
These missions of protection detail are definitely good… more of these please
Hey GS. You might want to tell those B2 Spirit pilots to drop bombs either on the runway or on the buildings. I think all they hit were trees, a little bit of pavement and where they were putting together the S300's. No critical damage happened to the runway. lol I think a second strike is needed to permanently erase that airfield off the map. ;)
I'm also surprised the S300's weren't scanning for targets. Were they plugged in? You should have been pinged at least once as you crossed their scans searching for targets. Your attack vector should have been provided by the SU-33's and SU-57 that there were "potential threats" in a particular direction.
What air defense doing??
I’ve been enjoying your content for months now, best DCS channel on CZcams.
I think Russia would trade 7 aircraft, a runway and some SAMs for a B2, but that was really cool, both in concept and execution.
Two F-22’s 20 miles in front of the bombers would’ve dominated.
Russia cannot know what's inside the cargo bay of the B2, they will assume the worst case which is nukes. They then would nuke the B2 out of the sky and retaliate with a tactical nuke in European NATO.
Next either the political leadership gets on the phone or the incident escalates rapidly into a full blown total and mutual nuclear annihilation.
@@halnineooo136 It's probable. We are at the mercy of some warmongers. That's why all European nations have to withdraw their NATO membership. ASAP. Some day our leaders will see it as it is...
@@karjalasta cope harder, Putin will fall, most likely within Bidens tenure (especially if he wins a second term) giving into threats from psychopaths will only embolden them to commit further acts of atrocity and his fear of NATO has been shown with him withdrawing from the Finnish boarder now that they're likely to join it.
@@karjalasta dumbest move ever to rescind NATO membership, then you're a target for Russia to annex you. Once you're in NATO then you're defended by every member.
These large scale missions are awesome!
Now fight 10 F-22s in a Corsair 😈
You should be MUCH further in front of the B2's to protect them lol
My first thought on seeing that B-52 shot down: “oooooh we will never financially recover from this” 😂
You deserve more subs point blank. What im trying to say is the gameplay you come out with is insanely awesome, and you deserve way more subs!
This is even better than the F22 vs SU57 mig 31 and SU35 video. How do you keep making better videos than the last?
Scatter troops with MANPADs on the ground. Would love to see how you deal with an air threat while also having to consider random soldiers with Stingers etc. that would make it harder to fly lower.
I don't think any MANPADs can hit them at that alt, it will have to be an s300/400 or SA 6
@@alekosalekadis6095 You added a couple of miles :)
Ukrainian Air Defense has entered the chat.
American stingers firing at American planes? What kinda logic…😂
I enjoy watching your sims. They almost make me wanna learn to do this game. But then I feel it’s most enjoyable to watch your sims instead.. kudos man! Real good stuff!
These mission based vids are pretty entertaining to watch. Good work GS!
This fleet looks GODDAMN DANGEROUS and SICK AF
This was awesome! So cool to see these machines in action within the environment and intention they were designed for.
The AWACS must have been pooping his pantaloons seeing the entire airfield explode just as he took off.
Sweet dreams are made of this.... This digitally constructed "stealth" is so far from reality. In reality no one put F22 into the S300 sight because of understanding of imminent devastation. But dreams is so sweet )
Tactics question (from someone who knows nothing about tactics) - would it make sense to lead the bombers further out to intercept enemy fighters prior to them launching (rather than hanging with them until contact is found on radar then vectoring into them)? If you know the route of the bombers then you can project forward and screen them that way?
Not criticizing what you did, just curious.
then where's the added drama if he does that, if he eliminates all the threats immediately before they could get near the B2 it would be a walk on the park and be no fun for GS, you know him he likes the challenge even it's not necessary.
@@nitonono4143 yeah, in a real operation you would clear the airspace in front of the bombers (we do not want to lose the tens of billions these things cost) and have them flying in space, likely in coordination with a ground strike. but this is dcs and we trying to have fun and show a cool battle
Realistically for this there would be 6-9 fighters (f22s and or f35s) guarding 3 bombers. Pretty cool how you did it with one.
It's funny how casually GS speaks. "Hello everyone, i'll be your captain today, my name is Growling Sidewinder. Today, we'll be carrying Delta AMRAAMS"
Next time try spreading's the B-2's out. I'm wondering if the stealth was compromised by the close formation.
I don’t think that’s modeled in DCS
@@tjseid it slightly is
Managed to launch my first missile in the A-10 today, it was a lot of work :P
I remember when I first did that. Congrats it’s a good step forward.
@@GrowlingSidewinder You might be disturbed to learn i'm using an Xbox controller :P.
Quick question, when it comes to shooting down undefended support planes like AWACS is there an etiquette? Obviously you don't want it to help the enemy, but if the wing didn't come off would you have let it attempt to land?
Awesome video! Seeing the F-22 defeating the Felons was sick!
i felt something sad deep inside me when the first B2 got hit
Jeez GS hits the A-50 with the first 2 bursts DEAD ON,...like he was Tom Cruise or something,...Guess we just need to see him running now...
Moneywise the mission might've cost you more with the b2 loss than what the enemy lost
I don't think Putin will be a subscriber to this channel..
This clearly isn't real. The 57 wouldn't even leave the tarmac. 😂
If I was in that AWAC taking off I would have been shitting myself once those bombs hit
Congratulations, you just became the first Ace of WWIII!
That was great - love the new tactical missions with the latest aircraft - keep this content coming..✌🏼
Love the stealth missions
It's great to come back and rewatch these. They have tense moments worth revisiting.
You cost the taxpayer 2 Billion Dollalalalars!
Your scenario are incredibly entertaining! I feel invested in the mission as a spectator and the tension is palpable. Keep up the good work!
F-22 ruling the skies again. Long live the king 👑
Saying “I’ll be right back” in this situation is so badass
This is just like old F22 ADF missions. Right like them. Awesome.
Great video!
I have a small question about fox-3 missiles (aim120 in particular).. If you lose lock before the missile goes pitbull, and then regain lock, does the missile uses the regained lock information? or is that missile on its own once the first lock is broken?
does DCS have the F-117?
Reall really cool mission. Different from the normal stuff, felt a bit co-op. Genius 💯👏🏼
Great work not putting the second awacs down in the city center😂
As much as I love the dogfighting I love these missions too now if we can only start doing an escalating series of events that would be awesome
I'd venture to say the major escalation of events will have something to do with two morons innocently flying around.
I love stealth penetration
That's what the actress said to the bishop.
... and the video's good too!
How terrifying must it be to see a raptor on your tail as the enemy .
Let’s make this a balanced fight all of them need to be manufactured from scratch, the F-22 would be built in little longer than a week and the felon would maybe be done by the end of the year
How would the Russians using long range IR missiles like the R-27ET change this? They have less range and are vulnerable to the sun but don't require any guidance from the launch aircraft.
I like those. Would be nice if the US had something like that. Send one after your 120D shot. They'll be so busy trying to evade the slammer that they won't see the Fox 2 coming.
do a stealth strike package of F35 F22 and B2
I am surprised none of their SAMs got a missile away
@13:35 THAT IS PRECISELY THE REASON WHY THE GUN IS STILL IMPORTANT REGARDLESS THE GENERATION OF THE AIRCRAFT.
Legit looks like a short movie🔥 Hopefully we see more videos like this
i freaking love your videos. keep it up man
Family of squirrels just got a rude awakening in that tree lol
lmao "engine, wing, he's gonna need all of that."
The B2 cost more than the airbase
Anyone else want to see GS do a Cobra maneuver on a B-2?
Your setup for how you introduce new contacts is perfect. It's so picture perfect and reminds me of a movie
"sir radar is picking up a formation of bumble bees at 10k ft"
The only thing I don't like about the B2 is that they were produced in such low numbers :(
Obama
@@Chuck_Hooks more like Cheney lol. The B2 was put out of production in 2000.
@@craigkingdon4424 True enough. I was thinking about the F-22.
@@Chuck_Hooksthe B2 program was cancelled during the H.W Bush admin though?
He cut the production of the aircraft to 20 (from 75) and made that announcement during the 1992 state of the union address.
The Clinton administration actually authorized converting s prototype into a full bomber. But they rejected a proposal for 20 further bombers in 1996
Obama had nothing to do with the scaling back of the B2 program. It was more the consequence of the fall of the Soviet union.
The great thing is that the new B-21 Raiders will be much cheaper thanks to the B-2 program
It will be exciting to see what that means for the F-22’s replacement
Whoever planned this operation isn't going to be an officer for much longer.
There was something so satisfying about the way those cannon rounds landed on the AWACS
Really cool video format, would love to see more of these going forward. Maybe with larger task forces
An F-15 or F-18 carrying a full load of AMRAM missiles would certainly be a great help in this type scenario. The B-1B that went down could have been protected should any missiles get past the F-22's for whatever reason.
Catching up with about 45 days of your stuff. I evidently forgot how enjoyable these videos are. I've remembered.
Love the videos, I have one question though, I am very new to DCS, and I am wondering what kinds of missiles you should use in different scenarios. Keep the great vids up!
He has an older video where he explains the different missile types (fox 1-3) and strategies for each. A lot of his videos he will also discuss different variations of each missile type relative to countries airframes. Look through his channel and I’m sure you’ll find what you’re looking for
splash two SU57s like nothing ;)
Dam right! Splash them 57s. The f22 is the Supreme fighter!!!!!
This brought a lesson to us about how to defend a stealth bomber even with an escort like the F-22.
Bombers needing escorts still almost makes the point of stealth pointless
The AWACS didn't even have time to get off the ground. If it had then the SU-57 and the SU-35s would have both vectored in on the formation much sooner. This is why stealth is important.
@@OCinneide But the bombers went in w escort. Thats the point. Stealth was supposed to be an evolution of the ideal bomber that could defend itself and get out.
@@chuckfarley4130 But original philosophy was that there wasnt suppose to be escorts. Thats what I mean by evolution of the doctrine. it goes back to the 1930's and how bombers originaly had no escorts but a tone guns for defense.