Gossip Girl 2021: What The Hell Happened?
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I love how the writers didnt even care to check if what the characters say match their age. There’s a scene where julien says she was partying with miley during her bangerz era, but that means she was 9 and clubbing
That would just be sad.
Wthh
It's sadly realistic. Drew Barrymore was doing that.
right?? bangerz came out in 2013 when i was TWLEVE. ain't no way the characters were partying with her, they would've been little kids lmao and Miley was 21 years old (my age) during bangerz and she for sure wasn't partying w 9 year olds lol
😂😂😂
i was just trying to enjoy a friendly space ninja video & suddenly im on the screen doing drunk cartwheels. mortified 😩
o7
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Damn
@G R I know people who only watched the movies and they have no idea that Harry’s parents are supposed to be 21 when they died. It might be old news to book readers, but people who have only seen the movies and aren’t into fandom discourse have no reason to think the casting of James and Lily isn’t age appropriate.
“Gossip Girl wouldn’t shame someone for her right to choose!” Bruh, Gossip Girl will shame and scandalize anything. 😒
No shit it’s called Gossip Girl for a reason
@@mr.badass9442 right? It’s likely he showrunners forgot what gossip is. 😅😹
@@ETPlayground I was thinking the exact same thing.
Its just political messaging. This whole show is full of leftist propaganda.
Like isn't the whole point that this entire world and everyone who inhabits it just the worst that humanity has to offer? Of COUSE gossip girl slut shames! She enjoys ruining people's lives!
i knew we were in for a bad time when one of the characters hit us with this line: "gossip girl? ugh this is the 21st century. should be gossip WOMAN." 🤮
Literally gaging. You don’t even deserve to utter the words
LMAO
I tkougjt it was satire 😭
@@foshio1598 frrr
sounds like a 7 year old made that line
All the teachers together decided “hell yeah let’s put our careers at risk to bully the students we’re supposed to be teaching by harassing stalking and publicly shaming them. I’m sure the police will understand!” I’d love to know how this made it beyond the writers room
These teachers are literally posting child pornography! They posted a sex tape of Max and his teacher, Zoya undressing, etc. And like... HOW?! How does that teach kids anything? How are they not scared of prison? How are the writers so out of touch?
Also, these kids would have just reported Gossip Girl's page and she'd be over. The writers really don't try😭😭
right?? it doesn’t make sense! like the playing field needs to be even
@@FKA91 also if they knew that a teacher was preying on a student, why didn’t they report them? Also that account would get trolled, mass reported, doxed, etc irl
@@FKA91 right??? And god I didn’t even consider that part, holy shit. Like when I was in high school my teachers wouldn’t even add us on fb bc they were afraid of backlash and these teachers out here risking *everything* for this?? It’s wild
I really dislike the way a lot of student/teacher dynamics are shown in tv shows. They just always seem off base in one way or another to me, either the teachers are way too invasive and weirdly close to students or they’re unrealistically horrible to them for no reason
A thing that I hated about the show is the fact that ALL THE CONFLICTS GET SOLVED WITHIN THE SAME EPISODE. Except maybe the problem with Julian's father.
yeah that one was on the other hand basically forgotten except for that one scene where he comes back to pay for Julian living with her sisters dad :D
That can be a very good thing, too. I am watching a totally different series called Superman & Lois. All the drama between the characters usually gets resolved at the end of each episode because the characters actually talk and comunicate with each other instead of dragging unnecessarily just for the sake of drama. It is refreshing, the main difference is, that show actually has a main story arc that reaches the whole season and keeps you interested and invested in the story, added to the mature and charismatic characters. In here, there is no major plot, no main mystery, nothing that keeps the arc together, we just have a random bunch of characters waiting for the next drama to happen and react to it without ever learning anything from it. It gets boring so fast...
@@luiscalzoncit2820 facts, hbomax’s dc shows like doom patrol (not titans tho) are actually good and write the characters well. Especially doom patrol where they handled how characters handle trauma well
Omg yikes, what a problem that is. Like this show is not smart enough to handle that topic and they've leaned into wokeness to not at least use that as grounds to remove Julien's dad from the show or leave him in prison. Ugh it's so gross.
@@luiscalzoncit2820 that's interesting than it's almost exactly like Smallville. I think they did a smarter reboot structure, I do want to check it out but I hated the weird cheesey pseudo Christian writing on Smallville with Clark and his family, a total male Betty Sue. I think it was because it came on after 7th Heaven, which barf. Just now realizing both of those shows had major cast members turn out to be sexual predators. Family friendly entertainment...
Having the teachers as Gossip Girl is so cringe. These are literal adults gossiping underaged teenagers as an act of revenge and create "change"- That was literally the deal breaker to even try to finish the first episode of the show.
The thing that bothers me so much is the excuse that GG is some vehicle for saving our future generations and I’m like… stop trying to be so “woke”and just let GG be GG ffs!
I absolutely agree they should have never identified Gossip Girl in the first place, but in my view, if they wanted the teachers to be Gossip Girl so badly, they should have just let them be horrible people who did not care about the students; they could have been legitimate villains who were fed up with their students' disrespect and wanted to ruin their lives and those of their parents. Let them laugh and guffaw at the pain they're causing. Let them call the students names and insult their parents behind closed doors. LET THEM BE VINDICTIVE. That would have at least made the teachers somewhat more interesting as villains rather than "misunderstood guides". This whole "I'm doing this to teach you a lesson and inspire you to change the world" bit is soooooooooo beyond ridiculous.
the fact that they try to do this, lol, my gosh, I am already thinking what the kids can report the teachers to the authorities, my golly, child abuse, child p-rn-graphy, revenge p-rn, and I can go on and on.
I don’t think it would’ve been that bad if they didn’t try to make GG the good guy
I would accept that maybe the teachers were fed up over teens buying their way out of trouble, making them feel worthless but don’t gossip about them to “help” them, do it because you want to make the pay
If you’re going to do a twist this dumb at least make it a bit entertaining by making the teachers bitter and petty
Thinking about it, the teachers could’ve been a good GG because they’re always in the background, hearing everything this kids say
Agreed. While basically all of these ''teens'' are portrayed by adult actors (as it is with Riverdale and similar shows), their characters are still supposed to be teenagers, and the adults in charge of them, teachers at that, spying on them in their private love life, without their knowledge at that, is creepy af.
Just the sentence “gossip girl would never shame someone for using their right to choose” shows me they did not understand the og gossip girl. They were trying to have no character be flawed or inconsiderate, that they completely abandoned the original plot.
Yes and the new Gossip Girl still does some incredibly f*cked up things like stalking kids, posting photos of kids getting undressed etc etc! If the show had some self-awareness they could actually mine some dark comedy from how these teachers become stalkers and borderline child pornographers without a second thought, but will NOT betray their liberal values. Instead they expect us to buy into the idea that the teachers being Gossip Girl is somehow ok, even rootworthy...which it is not.
How wouldn’t they understand if they’re the same creators and writers? 😂
Exactly, gossip girl quite literally shamed Serena/Blair for getting a pregnancy test. All the characters were absolute menaces and knew it
Ikr! Um, gossip girl was a huge bitch. It was part of her charm 👀
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the point of the OG Gossip Girl about how petty, elitist, and backbiting teenagers with money can be? I didn't watch the original show, but my understanding of the concept was about all the shit that hyper-privileged kids can get up to, especially if you can just BUY your way out of the consequences. That is not a group of people would are interested in changing the status quo, generally. I can see the showrunners using the _facade_ of wokeness to mask the usual teenage cruelty as a plot device, but trying to make these kids unironically socially progressive? Nah, that doesn't fly for me.
„It doesn’t even register as escapism“ has to be the biggest insult to a piece of entertainment.
Honestly lmao
It’s the most truthful thing he said in this review
tbh i liked it but the teachers were insanely annoying and just a weird plot point
Most teen dramas nowdays With their woke bullshit are anything but escapism.
I think the teacher as gossip girl could've worked. If it was a single teacher who was unhinged/just sick of those terrible kids, it could've been fun. Revealing her identity so fast and giving such a serious motivation (changing the world), eliminates any value to that dumbass "twist" to the original.
I just wanted to write the same comment! I think even the group of teachers could work (could be a surprising twist), if it was treated as a fucked up thing.
Yes! If the teacher was actually treated like a villain and the show was self-aware it could’ve been so good. I feel like if the teacher was kinda like Joe Goldberg from You it would’ve been way more entertaining
@@marisa8235 I agree, the show’s problem is that it wants to have a villain without really having one to begin with.
Definitely ! It would have been interesting to see a teacher who's clearly unstable taking revenge on those entitled kids and getting drunk on power, and going further and further each time
I disagree, to make that premise make sense you have to craft a very complex character. We have to understand and make sense of why a teacher would do these unrealistic and incomprehensible actions. These writers cant even write one good plot line let alone a well rounded realistic villain or an anti hero.
I think the issue with reboots today is that the writers focus too much on being relatable to todays time that they completely forget about everything else that goes into making a good show. I bet you the writers were some old people who have no idea how teens truly act today.
It's to the point of me not watching remakes because it will be displaying modern aspects and ignoring the point of the show.
the original GG was iconic and enjoyable because all the actors and actresses were charismatic and had chemistry with each other. Even though the writers ran out ideas in the later seasons, we sat through it because Serena IS Blake, Blair IS Leighton, Nate IS Chase and Chuck IS Ed! They all looked fabulous and we didn't need to hear repeatedly that Serena is the It girl, we saw it. But with the new cast, they were just using name-dropping and displays of wealth to convince us that they are iconic and important people.
🎯 I don’t care about these characters. Are they really the most important students at this school? Why would we care about them and why does GG. The og characters were I C O N I C
Also the OG show was so silly. It was fun! It had serious topics sure but there were a lot of funny and snarky moments
I personally like seasons 5 and 6 the most I think. People hate Ivy, but I think she is just sooo evil, she lies to everyone non-stop, it's pretty epic. And Chuck Vs. Dad is a great ending.
when Julien said "guys, I'm a bully" I started laughing uncontrollably. I haven't looked at the show since then.
Well, I do like the show. Besides everything I think it is really enjoyable.
But that quote was so freaking cringe and unrealistic I bursted out laughing. "Take out your phones and film me" lmao
I can imagine a comedic relief scene with Blair saying that. But when Julien does it, it's fucking cringe lmao
That episode is what killed the show for me. First off JULIEN isn’t even a bully??? The writers would make her like one of the nicest characters then try to describe her as a bully…. And the script is just terrible, the storylines are terrible, the characters are barely even characters, the acting is inconsistent, it’s just all so bad
That speech was CRINGE!!
I dropped the show after that episode 😩 I knew there was no going back
Thomas Doherty is carrying this whole show on his back. There's that scene outside the bar with Max, Audrey and Aki and TD was acting his little heart out, he was giving them so much and they were giving him nothing. I felt so bad for him.
Oh yeah he’s talented. He was also one of the best actors in the Descendants Disney Channel franchise.
I REMEMBER THIS AHSJDJ AUDREY AND AKO WERE LITERALLY BLANKLY STARING AT HIM LIKE HE WAS GIVING MATERIAL AND THEY WERE GIVING HIGH SCHOOL PLAY
@happy baby That's the one!
This just came out yet your comment has over a thousand likes????
the actor is good, unfortunately i couldn't sympathize with the character so much to think "he was carrying the show", but i couldn't sympathize with any of them tbh
The teacher idea could have worked if it was just Tavi. If her motivation were to shame and hurt these kids because of ENVY it would have been phenomenal. That way they could play into Tavi's young looks (how she's able to blend in, how they can empathize with her/tell her things they wouldn't tell the "older" teachers) and could have built a backstory where maybe she worked hard to get a job at this elite school while these rich kids take it for granted. If she was unabashedly self-righteous and ruthless because she simply had no remorse for richy-riches having consequences then it would have sold the illusion.
YES. They could even have the inciting incident in the first episode. She tries to pull in a student for one of those "serious talks" because she wants to be the next Mr. Feeney from Boy Meets World. And then said student goes to their parents and has the higher ups at the school warn her that such "harassment" could lose her the new job. So she *tells* herself that it's all for the kids own good, because she can't lose the righteous self-image she has of herself, but devolves into pettiness and revenge.
Honestly, it would've been amazing if the one bringing back the page was one of Blair's minions who never got the spotlight. That would've been a full circle reveal.
I agree with this! When I was watching the show, I kept thinking the same thing. There were moments when the show just focused on Kate/her motivations and I actually was semi interested. They really could have done something better.
That's just ivy Dickens
Yes and hot take but what if Tavi was an older sister of a poor girl who they bullied horribly?! Like that would create motivation and a sense of revenge. Tavi becoming obsessed with the kids that hurt her sister could’ve been so powerful and actually have meaning behind changing the way the main characters think about things when it’s THEM getting called out.
I love how the rich kids are somehow bad yet are preaching all these progressive ideas. Like they’re rich assholes when it’s convenient for the writers. They’re like “You know who understands struggle! Me! And my millions of dollars!”
This. The appeal of Gossip Girl is rich asshole kids doing rich, asshole things that their wealth and status affords them. I'm not here for a social justice lecture.
@@stephaniewozny3852 THIS!!!
@@stephaniewozny3852 yesss, the only characters who tried to present themselves as moral and good people were Serena, which seemed more like trying to convince herself and sometimes also her mom, and Blair, but again really only to her mother.
Pretty typical of people who think/act like that though lmao
@@chicade4810 lol that's true
I think if they kept the gossip girl anonymous it would fit even better in the context of today’s social media. It highlights that you don’t know who’s on the other side of the screen, but also it shows that on social media anyone can say and do anything without any real consequences.
I wish they'd done that and made it clear to the audience that we will never know the identity of gossip girl. Let folks know that there's no mystery to find and not bother with finding clues or waiting for some reveal. Just have a network of all-seeing all-knowing omnipresent people being messy and causing havoc on the characters.
"Who is this... 4Chan??"
So true. I. Would have loved it if GG was a bit like Deuxmoi just reporting tea on upper east side résidents
or imagine if it was an AI account. end of the series is the robots take over.
This! Black Mirror has an episode that highlights this point and it's very well done
this makes me appreciate just how fckin bonkers good Leighton Meester was in the role of Blair. that character is so off the wall, but i NEVER had a problem believing it when watching the OG series. hats off honestly
shes amazing
She's a great actress.
She was so good as Blair that I have a hard time seeing her in other roles. Like I enjoyed Single Parents a lot but it was hard imagining Leighton as a struggling single mom obsessed with heavy metal after watching her play Blair for so long.
It's because in the very beginning they were written as such. Deplorable human beings. At their core that's what they were, spoiled rich kids. Sure they adapt and learn, but that's what's good about the show during the first few seasons. They try to improve. Heck even Chuck grew from a womanizing prick to a somewhat womanizing prick who tries to find love though in the worst way imaginable because of his twisted perception.
I mean, that was the point, we shouldn't be able to relate to them because they were the 1% and that the one guy, Dan, was the only one we "may" be able to relate with, but is somehow being corrupted by the 1%,but is still also helping these 1% change a little. The 2021 reboot does nothing. They want to be woke but there's nothing good about being woke since they themselves don't understand it.
Woke is a bad term and stupid. Being humane and having empathy is a much better word. Woke is dumb because it's a term used by people who think they're humane and understanding but doesn't know how to be humane and goes about it in an entirely wrong way. And that's this show.
the pure hatred and emotion in his voice when talking about how frustrated he is with people defending the show caught me way off guard but im living for it
I swear I was dying of laughter 😭😭😭
25:41 Fun Fact: They chose older actors for harrys parents because Severus Snape was played by Alan Rickman. Snape and Harrys parents were in the same age but the actor for Snape was way older than his counterpart in the book. But they really wanted Alan Rickman for this role. So they decided to make Harrys parents a little bit older to cover this up. :)
Coldmirror?😏
@@elisamaza8909 Eventuell :D
Ah Germans
Worth it
Kind of makes sense, but tbh he looks the same age in the film as the parents (in the film) before they died. Could still have made them way younger and it would still match not too bad
The one thing I hate the most about the whole tv industry is the fact that such bad shows exist for years but really good ones cancelled after one-two seasons.
Preach
Hannibal! 🥺
for real it actually makes me so mad, and these things just keep happening, can't wait when people who actually understand things get to make movies/shows
So true! It’s a travesty that Julie and the phantoms only got one season.
i really think it’s a priority of money over good art. netflix cancelled julie and the phantoms but the other day i saw a tall girl sequel was coming out soon. obviously not a lot of people liked tall girl but they watched it which made netflix money. riverdale could probably go on for another 5 seasons if they thought it made them enough money. it’s annoying and it’s everywhere. capitalism is probably the source of this but honestly a lot of the cancellations are the studios’ fault
As old as the OG cast looked at times, the actors were all 20-22 in the first season. Casting a 28 year old as 16/17 is absurd.
That and they graduated on s2. These characters are supposed to graduate on season 4... so when Julien's actress is 32 playing 17-18.
That and all the adults looked a bit older in the OG. The difference between teens/adults seemed more defined than here where the teacher could easily be a student were she to have a different style.
@@Chriicherry i agree, I think the OG featuring both the parents and Jenny often (who were age appropriate) made the main cast's ages more believable
What teen drama actually casts teens stfu 90210 had a 30 ur old playing a child and Luke waz 26
@@bgcrp2005 But the problem is that it's too noticable.
I only watched one episode of this before having to stop and I completely agree with the Julien thing. It's like her entire character is being bald and they thought that would carry her personality. And as someone who used to have a buzzcut, I don't understand how a character can have such a bold hairstyle and such indecisiveness in every other aspect of her personality
This comment has me in tears. It’s SO true and I didn’t realize until just now
PLEASE LMAOOOOO. THE ACCURACY
I know this is random and you may have already heard this, but did you know that Vanessa in the novel had a buzzcut? It made me think that maybe the writers were trying to be cleaver and were trying to take the embodiment of someone like Venessa as their main character for the reboot... turns out I was giving them too much credit. Thinking that they thought about the concept for this reboot for more than 10 minutes is a mistake.
“It’s like her entire character is being bald” good bye world 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
This made me laugh lmfaooo 😭😭😭
There is definitely some truth to this because when pictures of the cast at the steps of the MET got leaked before the show even had a release date, everyone was raving over Julian’s look cause she was bald and that’s not a bad thing, people were really interested to see what her character would be. I think people had high expectations and the writers clearly failed to provide some substance to her personality.
What part of the original gossip girl ever implied that Gossip Girl helped anyone behave better?? If anything she gave the original characters a platform to be even crueler to each other. This teacher character makes no sense
yeah. she was an instigator and a provoteur, not a soother or reconciler, and you could tell from just the first episode. like, i'd get it if they wanted to show that this is a different gossip girl, but it seems like they just misunderstood/let the idea of a 'gossip girl'-'big brother' type aspect marinate in their heads for a just a bit too long and came to a misconception for what it is or could be. i don't think warping the concept this way is a good thing when you try to be a reboot and cater to that same audience
The general lack of competent writers in the entertainment industry is a serious issue that immediately needs to be addressed.
Exactly! What the fuckles is going on??? We need answers! Because it’s getting more and more ridiculous everyday.
@@astoldbynickgerr they keep hiring their nieces and nephews to write everything
literally all they care about now is how much propaganda they can get in one episode
careful, CW might cry
Yeah I feel it too. As someone who wants to be a screenwriter, this material is actually good at showing what not to write. OG GG did have some really bad storylines in the latter seasons but at least it was engaging to watch it all unravel sometimes.
One thing that bothered me in the show the most is that they're rich, but not _rich_ rich. Now, if you watch the OG Gossip girl, you could understand their financial means/high social statuses not only by their outfits, but also their staff (Doormen, chefs, chauffeur, maids..), their lifestyles (Shopping at Chanel, having personal limos/helicopters, high end events) and general behaviour that comes with a life of privilege.
This allow us as viewers of entering the life of super-wealthy teens that is far from our reality but also understanding the threat that is Gossip girl for them. For the life of me, if it wasn't constantly repeated throughout the show I would absolutely forget that Julian is popular and wealthy. I don't get why she have minions, like, at all. Why her? She's boring, has a questionable style and her father is not that famous? The contrast between her life and Zoya isn't as intense as the one between, let's say, Dan and Serena. The whole point of GG was to have those tensions to navigate through the power dynamics and developments of their characters. Huge fail for me.
So true! Zoya felt almost as rich as the other characters if they would not have constantly made it about her scolarship. So many scenes were they were cooking? I don't think that happened even once in the original.
Exactly! We empathize with their craziness because we expect that to happen when they grow up so super spoiled and we can’t relate but we enter a life that far from us just to find that they have similar emotions and struggles and that was just so brilliant about the OG GG
yes! well said
The parallels of Nate getting a defacto spot in the university Dan actually wanted but couldn’t go even though Dan had the grades Nate didn’t
Haha you right. This show is so self-righteous . It wants the rich kids to be rich and love their wealth but also be likable and woke when the OG show only Serena and maybe Nate were the only rich kids that saw the toxicity of a life of wealth but it was ballenced because Blair GG and Chuck and jenny we're showing the awesomeness of that life. Og Gossip girl I felt like I was looking into the high life but this show I felt I like I was being lectured all the time
What sucks even more for me was the marketing was amazing! Like I was obsessed with the trailers and the posters, and then when I watched it I realized the marketing had more depth than the actual show lol
Exactly. All of those Instagram stories and how the characters have actual Instagram accounts were really intriguing
HONESTLY, I think Dan STILL being Gossip Girl would literally be a better twist. Like we never have to SEE him, but we find out wants to sell another book like in the first series and is operating it again to learn about the new generation of privlage.
Side Note: One of the biggest red flags was seeing the cast on a video answering Gossip Girl trivia. Like they clearly had no idea about some of the most iconic aspects of the series and didn't do the base research of what their roles were supposed to emulate.
I hate to sound mean but my main issue was with the IT girl casting. Considering how hyped up she is, we should be able to get a sense of this charisma on screen without the show having to consistently remind us that she is supposed to be a big deal. If this character would shine, it would make sense for the 2 puppets to appear one-dimensional and completely dependent on her to be relevant.
Julien is a friendly rich girl with a dad that has celebrity connections and an influencer that has modeled before. Her being the It girl makes sense because most It girls are not as special without their money, looks and socialite scene. She’s no different from Kylie Jenner or many other famous nepotism babies.
@@witchplease9695 yeah, but this is a TV show. Blaire Waldorf had family money and she was an IT girl not only for that, but for who she was, how she presented herself.
@@witchplease9695 i agree, however in a school where everyone is super rich, has powerful and influential parents that's the norm. The popular girl must have some charisma, an extraordinary style (not just expensive stuff but the correct expensive stuff) or any other extraordinary characteristic
@@mar6488 Blair was not the it girl, Serena was. Blair was the queen b and was generally despised by nearly everyone. Serena was the one everyone aspired to be. And she was just as bland. Though this new show took blandness to new heights with Julien. 😂 Atleast Blake lively gave actual charm to serena
Exactly. We loved Blair because the show literally showed us through various situations how she is and how she’d act and it gives us a chance to UNDERSTAND WHY she’s an it girl. It doesn’t just flat out keep telling us she’s an it girl and she’s influential and we should just believe that she is like what they do with Julien.
Side note, the reason why “middle aged” actors were hired to play Harry Potter’s parents is because JK really wanted Alan Rickman to play Snape - since James and Lily were the same age as Snape, they had to age everyone else up!
As much as I hate how JK Rowling messes with her own canon, I have to respect her desire to cast Alan Rickman. He’s a legend (RIP Alan Rickman)
@@charminsi yeah that’s one of the few things she’s absolutely correct on
I mean, they were dead though and Snape wasn't? Their spirits/ghosts should not age like Snape did. But i honestly don't think it was a big deal, if anything it's probably how Harry imagines they would be looking if they were given the chance to age.
@@cathy997 Alan Rickman was 55 when he was cast, whereas Snape was supposed to be 31 - even though Lily and James were ghosts, they were still 10 years older in the movies when they died so they had to look like they were in their thirties, and the actors were 35 when they were cast.
@@jadethirlwall1573 oh, okay i got you, that sounds right. I thought Alan Rickman was younger, i was convinced he was in his early 40s so it didn't seem that far in my mind.
I think the creators were trying so hard to be PC and not get “cancelled” (not taken off air the other type of cancelled) they forgot that flawed main characters are compelling. It’s okay to make the “good” characters be bad people sometimes.
It feels like liberal politics as written by conservatives who are trying to imagine what the left is like. It comes off as bizarrely clueless.
Having deeply problematic characters throw woke concepts around just to make them likable is insulting to the audience. And it’s even worse considering a large part of their audience absolutely adores Blair and Chuck, like. As long as they’re charismatic and intelligent, you can make your characters as flawed as you want, we’d still love them.
To quote a tumblr post i once saw “fictional characters can kill as many people as they want but you can’t make them annoying. You see, fictional lives are made up, but my feelings of annoyance are very real”
Like chuck for example in the first few episodes he’s creepy and unlikable same with characters like Georgia it was the fact gg could make you question if you liked the character based on circumstance. When Georgia worked with the friends you loved her she was just as cunning as Blair but when those efforts where flipped into plotting against the group you didn’t yet by the end of the series you like her because she’s just like them
@@jamiekamihachi3135 lmao this is what the left is like.. insane
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Thomas Doherty seems like the only one with real experience, he is a great actor who enjoys doing his job, his performance in Disney roles was much better than most of the performances in GG21
Go watch Skam (if you haven’t). It’s the closest there is to a masterpiece in teen shows and depicting teens accurately (aside from My So Called Life). None of those kids had any true acting experience when they were cast and they can act their asses off.
There is raw talent in this country too. I mean even in the old Gossip Girl… Ed Westwick had essentially zero experience in acting and was the best in that show.
They could’ve gone with better actors and actually made an effort. They didn’t really bother. They were like “ok you’re POC and good enough”.
Yeahhh him as Harry Hook in descendants was wayyy better than him in GG21
Too bad that he looks like a 35 year dude hilariously playing a teenager. Lol
I tried to watch the first episode, but had to stop after Julian's speech about the supposed rules of social media. I gagged, it was so out of touch with what teenagers actually do with social media. I don't even think they mentioned TikTok, which is a crime if you're talking about teenagers. They all acted like CZcams is for low-lives as if it isn't one of the best places for people on social media to gain attention.
Me too, the writers are clueless about what REALLY happens on social media, and I wouldn't be surprised if none of them had ever met or spoken to a real teenager in their lives!
right like.. there were some parts that were so corny it sounded like it was written by a bunch of middle aged people who’d either never interacted irl with teenagers who use social media or all their information was taken from whatever they *think* teens on twitter sound like
This isn’t even a problem just in this show either. I feel like I’ve never seen a piece of media (tv series, movie, etc) that accurately portrays how people actually use social media and what it’s actual real-life implications can be. It’s a shame, because there’s legitimately so much to talk about there that isn’t a “boomer” take on it.
Honestly I’m just patiently waiting for when people our age start getting into production/writing/directing positions, because then we’ll actually get some interesting and immersive and real stories that include an accurate portrayal of social media. Can’t wait until that day, I feel like we’ll get some real good stuff. Just gotta be patient and suffer through this until then.
@@trinaq The one movie I can think of that really gets teenagers is the movie Thirteen, and it was made before social media existed. It was co-written by an actual 13 year old, so it felt real. The people that are actually successful at producing shows/movies are wayyy older than the characters they write about because it takes so long to become successful enough for your work to become something. It’s sad, because getting some young people on the writing staff would 1) help the writing be more accurate to their age group and 2) promote young writers who want to be successful in that field. It’s so annoying!
@@mcgheebentle1958 Hate to be pessimistic, but as a zennial, I don't think that will EVER happen. Social media and how people interact with it is ever changing. And super fast. Because of that, it's hard to get a grasp on it when writing stories. Productions for tv shows and movies take years, so it'll always gonna be super dated by the time it comes out. Honestly, by the time when Alpha comes of age and becomes the "hip" generation in a decade, we're gonna fade into irrelevancy and join the boomer ranks.
I'm confused as to why no one thinks it's weird of Zoya to flirt and start a relationship with her sister's ex-boyfriend while they're trying to build a relationship. Why the fuck wouldn't Julien still have feelings for her ex? They broke up two seconds before Zoya and Obie started dating. That shit was messy from the start.
@Ks she is also a teenager, 2 years is 1/8 of her life already
I know right I liked Zoya until that (I was willing to give her more chances to get me to like her again) but this guy just dumped your sister……. You don’t think he would treat you the same way he treated YOUR SISTER? Plus she also got annoying as the season went on.
@Ks I'd find it creepy, I'm 14 and I can't fathom a 17 year old wanting to date someone my age
YESSS, and then the show wanted us to see Julien as the villain and pity Zoya?
I once saw a comment talking about how awkward it was that every single black character was put into a romantic relationship with a white character(Which there's nothing wrong with interracial relationships, but I'm assuming that the show forced their characters to be in interracial relationships to appear "woke" and THAT condescending wokeness is a problem).
I felt that these kids were all interchangeable. Any scene could happen between any combination of characters without a single change, because absolutely nothing made sense or followed any character traits or development. Also, nothing in the world can convince me that people are obsessed with Julien as an influencer. And the teacher had permanent diarrhea face. I feel for the actors. If this survives another few seasons, they will be worse than Riverdale.
To be honest when I first heard “Hello New York, Gossip Girl here” I literally cried. I was checking on the reboot dates every single day up until it’s release and I was telling everybody around me how I was so excited to finally have my comfort show back on TV and how the little things that they missed on the first series were finally gonna be elevated. The disrespect and anger I felt watching this entire mess.. I don’t think you guys understand. I was in awe of how bad they managed to make it. It felt like I was watching a fan made reboot on CZcams. I didn’t escape anywhere I felt trapped in their lifestyle and the terrible acting. I hated everything about it. Hate the uniforms, hate the fact that they threw three black character and one half Asian to diversity bait us. I literally went back to the original straight after and I cried because of how disappointed I was. To me it’s like why? Why would you do this to Gossip Girl fans?
Diversity is a problem for you?
@@Miranda-gi9fx diversity itself isn't but the fact that they baited us with it
@@hassanalkhalaf1115 wtf is the difference between “diversity baiting” and just… having a diverse cast jfc
@@carla3585 It's not enough to make a cast diverse - the script has to be written to include cultural elements as well, especially in a metropolitan place like new york. When that fails ot happen, it makes the overall show look poorly made, because it's not realistic.
@@carla3585 Diversity baiting is having POC just to say you have them. Actual Diversity is making good characters who are POC and not just useless characters who are only there to support the main (usually white) character. Those characters are poorly written and disposable
There was only ONE joke that made me laugh which was when Luna asked something like “what did i do to deserve this” and monet responsed “you were in the imagine video” and that was the ONLY time i laughed unironically😭
same tbh i think monet is a decent mean girl character that could have been a nouvelle blair but they simply chose to waste her character :(
i think one thing this show did right is it’s promotion, each character has their own instagram, audrey even has a goodreads account, and they post all the time. they post the pictures they take in the episode, pictures that go along with episodes, and they show that the characters hang out outside of their controversies (mostly luna and monet). i think that idea was freaking genius, i wish it was used on a better show LMFAOOO
This is one of the reasons I stuck around with it the full season. I was impressed by the effort they put into the IG promotional material. I kept hoping the show would come around and give us what Gossip Girl is at its best, campy and fun, but it never did :(
Skam and all its reboots have done this too, and those are MUCH better shows if you’re looking for something like that
@@mari6126 i know ☹️☹️ maybe s2 will be better???
@@rebeccabarnes3381 YES THANK YOU!!! i appreciate u sm
@@rebeccabarnes3381 Yeah one of the skam reboot producers was hired for the gg reboot, that's why they used it. But just adding that on to a show that nots really interesting doesn't work, it worked amazing for skam because we got very short access into the character's lives and were always left really satisfied but wanting more because we adored the characters. Long story short they copied skam and failed
what really gets me about thomas doherty being the best actor on the show, is that every scene with him in it feels unbalanced. he gives everything and they give nothing so it's awkward and feels like i'm watching someone practice lines with a random person. it's borderline uncomfortable.
Gossip Girl (original series) actually had relatable characters. Despite them being upper class and socialites, the writers managed to given them a backstory and vulnerable moments.
@@user-uo8jw7yr4m Or Chuck Bass' commitment issues, with a father who never gave him a sense of safety.
These characters have none of that
Still can't believe your channel is so new. The quality of your videos are insane! Keep up the good work bro
Me too, his analyses are so well thought out and concise.
yeeeees, i’m obsessed
So true, I was surprised when I found out it was a relatively new channel.
I remember when I saw his first video about Emily in Paris and wanted to see more. I was shocked that that was his fir and only video at the time
right??? i’m with the channel since the first video and right there he already blew my mind
it probably couldve been more interesting if zoya was actually bitter about how julien had the "perfect" life of being rich and "influential", and she decided to use the legacy of gossip girl to knock julien and her posse down a peg. could have had a moment of conflict too where after she gets to know julien more, she felt bad about lying to her sister and is second guessing whether she should continue with the gossip girl schtick.
but no we just get a bland good girl 💀
wow i really like the idea of zoya being mad at julien for having the life she never had, it’s so much better than what we got-
Would be the second time they do that though, since it's kind of the same that happened with Dan. And it kinda sends an awful "beware the lower classes" message
How is this random comment already 10 times better than the actual plot of the show
The heck drop the fanfic darling please!!!!
yeah i wish they made someone the villain lol like how chuck was soo unlikable for awhile because of the awful things he did
Imagine trying to live up to Leighton Meester/Blair brilliance 😭 it can’t be done and shouldn’t have been attempted lol
EXACTLY
the thing thats irritated me the most is Max’s affair with his classics teacher . can we please stop the student teacher trope. it’s gone on too long
Yeah- let's update everything and make the cast more diverse and socially conscious...buuut, let's still glamorize student teacher relationships as sexy. Cause it's a teen show!
A classic teen show who did this right was actually Dawson's Creek. It showed the female teacher was definitely taking advantage of the character Pacey, and there was legitimate emotional fallout for him after.
Another insane thing is that it’s not just the Constance teachers running gossip girl, in one episode Tavi’s character talks about working with other teachers at other elite New York private schools! So all the private school teachers in New York are apparently menaces to society.
How would they be able to keep it secret, some teacher is bound to blab before hand
I mean speaking as someone who had seven of their freshmen teachers on a facebook page dedicated to bullying me into suicide I have to say most teachers are in my experience this fucked up so I'll give the show that much... Though I want to a title one school sooo they just missed the ecomic bracket
@kibblewibble yeah freshman year of high school I was Cyber bullied by a girl the school counselor and seven of my teachers along with a bunch of students from school. I got to the point where I had to transfer schools but after that I never really trusted educators again not until college and even then it took a lot for me to think that these people cared about my education and wanting me to succeed in life. Couple that with the fact that I've met so many education majors while in school who clearly just wanted to be teachers because they like having power over people who can't really fight back and I don't exactly have a great view of the profession.
FUN FACT: Harry's parents are casted older, because they really wanted Alan Rickman as Snape and since Snape was around the same age as Lilly and James, they had to cast older actors
Yeah but they died when Harry was one they didn’t grow old unlike Snape so that’s still doesn’t make sense ! It would be logical in the the throwbacks of his parents they were 21
@@91elow if they died when harry was 1 that would make snape 31 in the first movie... alan rickman was like 50
also because they need to look like parents. a 21 year old doesn't look like A Parent and they were old in DH because it'd been like 10 rl filming years
@@OliverHeikkinen to be fair i do know some 50s looking 30yolds lol
Damn Snape be youngggggg
They focused more on being “politically correct” and shoving “shock value” down our throats rather than writing a good story, that’s what happened.
🎯 SPOT ON
But there was no shock value either
I think they also just accepted any first take. Literally (44:40), Zoya uses the word revisals, when it should be "revivals". In the elevator scene with Tavi and the male teacher (23:51), he very clearly stumbles over his line. (22:50) The boyfriend literally forgets his line and uses the head-shaking to cover it up (which it looks like this actor does a lot).
"We've both lost our moms today."
How do you reach the point where that line is read in the tone of "Where do you wanna eat for dinner tonight?"
Such bad acting.... I feel like a good acting coach could help, but maybe the director or the producer felt they didn't need one on set? And I feel like they casted several privileged people and nepotism babies that already believed they were perfect.
The way I haven't even watched most of the shows you've covered, yet your videos are still enjoyable to watch. And I totally agree with you, because American teen shows nowadays are just... sigh.
also YEA THOMAS DOHERTY!!
I wasn't going to watch the reboot until I learned that he was on it.
He is a great actor.when ninja said that there was a great performance i knew it would be his
@@isagama558 he really is 🤧🤧
@@SarifaXionic I only found out about the reboot because of him actually 😅
Same here. And somehow I avoid these shows because of the reasons he mentions 😂 I watch the trailers and lose interest
Honestly until you told me that blondie was their teacher i thought she was a student so i was CONFUSED.
I haven't watched the show and just this video and when he said that I was soooo confused too. I think the blonde with the bangs would fit the role of teacher much better than student based on age range
I was one of the people sent a survey by HBO Max about this show actually, between the halves of s1 being released. I tore into it and checked nearly every box that came up as to reasons why people may not like the show (boring characters, doesn't compete with the original, teachers as GG, bad love triangles, not enough drama, unclear motivations, etc.) and then also promised to not pick up the show for the rest of s1. Staying true to my word and not checking back in brought me a lot of peace. I can't express how much I loathed Obie as a character in particular but you can truly have your pick of the litter for the worst of the bunch. What a mess
Oh, I agree. Obie annoyed me to my core, he was so condescending and hypocritical. Dan was like that too in the original, but he had redeeming features and depth, unlike Obie. None of these new characters had any depth at all. I was kind of hopeful about Luna and Monet though.
Re: age inappropriate casting. Gossip Girl OG actually was pretty decent with this- at the time the show started, none of the actors playing teenagers were older than 22 years old. Nate and Vanessa were 22, Blair, Chuck, and Dan were 21, Serena was 20, Eric was 17, and Jenny was really 14. Outside of Degrassi, that was one of the better age casting examples, especially by CW standards.
its scary cuz hbo is making a degrassi reboot lol
Oh wow Little Jenny, i remember bc taylor momsen is the same age as me
@@roldanolivia114 I was worried they were going to try to turn it into Euphoria but apparently they are keeping it tween appropriate to watch. It's going into the Kids and Family section, apparently.
yoooooooo you mean to tell me Jenny and Nate were dating on-screen with an 8 years difference??? that's kind of worse???????
skins hired literal teens who are 16-18 the time it aired. Nicholas hoult is the only one who's 20 ig. And they do drugs almost every episode lol
For how self-righteous & “woke” this show tries to be, they really thought having…the teachers…bullying the kids…was a good idea?
Or stalking underage kids by taking intimate photos in their private lives. These teachers would be in prison.
I would love to get your take on:
- Insecure
- Young Royals
- euphoria
- Haunting of Hill House/ Bly Manor
- The woman in the window across from the ....
Can we add the Tall Girl movie. The movie about an attractive upper middle class white girl who doesn’t have real problems. And got a sequel for some reason.
@@jamiekamihachi3135 being a tall girl can make you quite insecure, especially when people make fun of you for it. (I was the tallest in my class til I was 14 or 15, and people just loved to make comments about it). But yeah, the movies sucked, and their portrayal of Swedes (which I also am) was ridiculous and just bad (for example just the name Stig, which no one under like 60 is called...). There was potential, since body types can really make you insecure until you own it, but yeah, they funked up.
@@missjih2563 Not to mention that ending. It feels like it was written by an r/niceguy to fulfill his fantasy of getting the girl that rejected him in high school.
@@jamiekamihachi3135 with the absolute most stereotypical black best friend. she is so surface level they resorted to making a "sassy black woman" and comic relief
@@geko9214 I think I’ve mentally blocked her out of my mind.
The way Tavi answered that question about her character 😂 She has to know the writing is bad
That mid season break was an AWFUL idea. The regularity was the only thing keeping me going and as soon as I was freed, I couldn’t return
same here! I never bothered checking out season 1B
You didn't miss much. I picked it back up after the break, the episodes were in the wrong order. I didn't even know I was watching a season finale. It was SOOOOO BLAND
sadly I did come back but I really regret it and during the break I had entirely forgotten about it.
@@wlk3607 I feel you. I usually try to finish anything I start, at least the season, but this has to be the exception🙃
@@beautifullEternal LOL that is so sad, a finale where you don't even feel it, and Gossip Girl of all shows! 😢
the sisters fighting constantly and reconciling just to fight again over a bland boy was exhausting
Gave me WHIPLASH
THE BLANDEST BOY. I was laughing so hard when I found out he's German. Did they do it on purpose? prolly not
and it wasn’t like they were interested for money or something like they were genuinely in love with him 😭😭
@Ks he was truly mediocre like who is interested in their ex’s little siblings AND a cheater ?? Like it’s humiliating 💀
And they tried so hard to make him woke, it felt so awkward
I watched the first Gossip Girl for the Actors (Dan, Blair, Serena were standouts for me), the awesome outfits, and not necessarily for the plot.I think I watched a behind the scenes and when they talked about the series they said that they wanted to become like a video version of a fashion magazine with the outfits, houses, food, etc and I was fascinated by it: it was eye candy. I think I watched 1 or 2 episodes from this new show and it didn't spark anything in me so I just forgot about it.
Ugh... So the script ended up being just a way for writers to act like they're woke because they copy-paste phrases from Twitter, while at the same time not really addressing nor representing any of the real issues they claim to depict. Great. Another one of those. Thanks for suffering through this show so we don't have to!
Another riverdale basically
Another factor for why this fell flat is that Gossip Girl as a concept is rather dated. When the show came out when I was a kid, it was before the 2008 recession and before the rise of social media. Seeing that sorta lifestyle was shocking and scandalous during that time. Now? We're used it thanks to seeing influencers and celebrities do that stuff for over a decade thanks to social media. Other shows like Euphoria has teens doing more shocking stuff in them.
For something like this to work in the 2020s, they needed to change things up a lot more. Change Gossip Girl to a completely outside party who is a poor teenager or 20 something who is struggling to get by and feels it is the only way to get enough money to survive, but slowly gets addicted to the power of it all. At least that is a more believable motivation for such an act than "teachers want to teach these kids a lesson" or whatever. Nix the creepy shit like showing underaged kids doing it on that account, because that would get someone arrested irl and is just gross. Comment about social media influencers and new money rubbing up against the old money. Have them be problematic. Real life rich kids ARE. Or have one character pretend to be fake woke and call them out to make them grow from it. This series had potential, but it was just wasted.
@medusa j Pretty much. It was like the show was so afraid of being "canceled" on Twitter and wanted to appeal to this generation so much that it ruined its own concept by making all of the characters hallow fake woke shells. Rich kid characters like these must be flawed as hell for the concept to work. Make them antiheros or outright villains instead of watered down "good guys".
I still can't believe that gossip girl reboot and Euphoria both come from HBO MAX....and quality difference is significant .As if they were made at parallel universe 💀
i love gg1 for its fashion and I hear it was quite influential in its time. gg2 looks were so bland and was pretty much what I would see insta explore. at least could have done something with makeup like how euphoria uses glitter makeup but no.
Whil it would change the premise for sute , and needs a serious good director in that regard, you can actually adress social media. Hell twitter drama alone would be worth that. Could even b trashy just , very unlikely , but it coul.
My thoughts exactly. If these kids were downright villainous, the show would be 10 times better. Have them shame any and everything under the sun. Hell, you could even have them participate in the Gossip Girl stuff if you wanted extra mess. That alone would make Julien's sidekicks way more threatening. Some characters need to be scrapped off the show, and Julien's fashion needs to go back to the drawing board.
One of the things that's so striking to me is how they missed such low hanging fruit. Like the original gossip girl concept really hinges on the anxiety of kids having cell phones and texting and blogs, right? Well it's only gotten WORSE since then, with the rise in social media and the pressure to constantly be 'on' and having the capability to stream our lives right at our fingertips, and the new gossip girl never really utilizes it in an effective way.
I completely agree lol. Idk how they messed it up so horribly.
Yea, I would have liked them crying in the bathrooms, Getting into random fights in the background, getting depressed or something like that because of gossip girl. If memory serves the show didn't do that. Even with Julian and her father. Julian wasn't in bed for weeks or crying and eating ice cream. They just skipped the hard part and said she okay.
I don't understand how Gossip Girl doesn't have a Twitter account, what best social media to bully people?
Yep, in the original the characters only really ended up on the internet when Gossip Girl posted about them. In 2021 the characters would all have some kind of presence on IG and it would be a key part of e.g. Blair presenting her and Nate as the perfect UES couple, Jenny trying to climb her way up the social ladder etc. (That shows how much better the writing was on the original BTW - I literally have a better understanding of what Blair and Jenny would be doing in 2021 than I do of where Audrey, Julien etc are coming from in 2021.)
Maybe you should express yourself more respectful about them
they thought that they can create a history for the friend group by making audrey say "this group has a lot of history"
I watched only the first episode, when they said gossip girl was A TEACHER, not even a teacher, TEACHERS, I knew I needed to get out of there, we're talking about adults stalking teens, taking inappropriate pictures and posting everything online, that premise was totally insane for me, literally ruined everything from the very beginning, It doesn't matter what they do in season 2, it's nearly impossible to escape from that shit
I actually think the idea of a teacher being Gossip Girl could have been interesting if they took a different approach. Like really lean into the idea that a grown woman who is stalking and bullying minors online in an effort to make them “the next AOC” is clearly unhinged. She could have been a “hyper reality” Mona Vanderwall type character. The idea that MULTIPLE teachers would put their livelihoods on the line as well as risking criminal charges (stalking, intimate photos of minors, ect) because they don’t like their students makes no sense.
Yeah it could have been a cool story of an obsessive teacher who becomes too involved in students lives and stalks them and sees them like how Mona saw the liars.
*Actually its Vanderwaal
And if you write it like they actually do in the Netherlands, Van Der Waal (I don't know why Americans just turn it into one giant ball of a surname)
Yeah, it's unbelievable
@@inferiorinferno8859 actually part two: Van der Waal is considered the "giant ball of a surname" in America, so they put it together to sounds smaller: Vanderwaal.
(btw i'm not trying to sound rude, just explaining why they put it that way. I live for netherlands surnames)
I think what these teachers really lacked was a good “motivation”. What I mean is to really go against all the accepted values of being a teacher, an educator, you need something big. This nonesense of teaching the kids a lesson is not that. With one teacher involved - could be. With multiple? No. A teen show that had teachers turning against the students was for example House of Anubis, which of course has its own issues, but there you understood the motivation of some of the teachers - they were seeking eternal youth and immortality, and for example one of them had a terminal illness, and had this as last resort. I agree that here what could have worked was a real villian as a teacher, one completely unhinged, or something as big as immortality if they were to have all the teachers.
If this is Friendly Space Ninja in the beginning of his CZcams career....just imagine the content he will provide us in the future 😌 I'm so happy to be here from the beginning.
Same, quality from the very start!
I hope he likes Anne with an E. I was conflicted with season 3, but I really liked the first two seasons.
… I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment. But seriously, there’s far too many characters and far too many storylines. You hit the nail on the head with it seeming like the writing was from an algorithm. Just let shitty characters have shitty motivations. It’s fine and honestly welcomed. It feels like they shot twice as much footage, and removed every second of motivation and character development.
The other thing I think deserves mentioning is that Gossip Girl would have a VERY hard time remaining anonymous on current platforms. In a world of solid photos and videos, as well as IP traces being quite easy, this would have been figured out a long time ago. You can’t tell me that when the teachers start going rogue on each other that they would all keep up with the security side of the account. Also, as a former teacher, you can’t tell me that EVERY teacher would be willing to lose their license and go to jail over what would end up being basically ch*ld p*rn.
The biggest changes I think that would have helped the show beyond your points:
1. Gossip Girl should have happened on a site like Reddit, where people have more anonymity and less opportunity for DOXing. It’s more “old school”, but retro is in right now.
2. Flatten Julien’s character. She tries to have morality and depth, which doesn’t work for the concept of an influencer who needs the world to view her in a specific light. Let her be a less power hungry, but more image driven Blair archetype. No influencer would torpedo that kind of money over dumb drama.
3. For the love of god, get Julien an actual publicist. If her dad is that rich and she is that famous, her publicist wouldn’t be a 16 year old. Having a non-family member adult on the show (who also isn’t trying to destroy children’s lives) would provide some grounding.
4. Reduce the number of teachers who know about GG. Again, see point about being added to a Family Watchdog site.
5. Let someone be an actual villain. Not everyone needs a redemption arc, having dome neutral-evil/chaotic-evil characters help you understand who you’re supposed to care about. At this point, I feel like the writers are trying to protect almost all characters from too much scrutiny, which also means we can’t find anyone to root for.
I know I didn’t watch this show, but honestly it was hard for me to get through him explaining through certain parts especially the love triangle thing. I don’t like love triangles in general but this one actually felt like an eternity to have someone explain it and it must’ve been TORTURE to actually watch the show. Space Ninja, you are a savant and deserve the best for putting yourself through this dumpster fire.
Unless being part of the Gossip Girl collective is a paid gig, these teachers would not give enough fucks to do literally any of these shenanigans. They are adults with lives and hobbies and shit.
fr, they'd probably give up teaching if they were that annoyed with the kids
I HATE THE WAY JULIEN’S ACTRESS DELIVERS LINES LIKE ITS GIVING DISNEY CHANNEL
@@tayloradams3993 as a high school teacher, when you’re getting private school salary you will tolerate even the most annoying kids.
Some people's hobby is making other people miserable and power tripping. Sometimes they're teachers. The issue here is the framing, I'd say, that the show doesn't seem willing to say 'uh, this is fucked up actually, the hypocrisy is DRIPPING, and these people have problems and need to get lives outside of bullying kids'. I've had teachers whose attitude seemed embedded in 'bullying kids builds character' so it doesn't feel like a stretch to me at all, but the way they pulled it off could uh
I guess saying 'it could use work' is an understatement given the entire thing.
@@Scarleto True, but in modern education explicitly bullying kids (even in "secret") is like a major no. A more realistic portrayal of a modern teacher power tripping would be if the teachers sent these kids out of class daily on uniform checks lol. This kind of stuff and the teachers relationship to the students in general would get them instantly fired in a modern day school and tbh you get checked for possibility of these kinds of tendencies in the hiring process anyway so a lot of these teachers wouldn't even get a job to begin with
Julian confessing that she is a bully is like a PSA that she never rectifies in herself really. Just let a villain be a villain. She confesses how bad she's been so many times but never changes but also I hate it
That part was soooooo corny and cringey. It didn't align with Julian what Julian's character was experiencing. It was so random.
Yep and also - WHY is she a bully? Blair was a bully but I understood where she was coming from and why being queen bee was so important to her. I don't really understand why Julien does anything.
@@snazzyethel I think the show is saying she's just rotted to the core, maybe because of her father who is also a compolsive liar . Which I think is just bad writing. I really wanted to care about her but never found a reason to.
@@snazzyethel difference was that Blair was a bully and actually ENJOYED it and you can tell the actress really enjoyed the role and indulge in the power Blair had. Julien was constantly flip-flopped and couldn't decide what she wanted to be.
I thought a really cool idea would’ve been, since they revealed GG episode one, to end the season not knowing who she is. We watch the teachers believe they’re doing this righteous thing, they see the behaviour changes they want, but some kind of major fallout happens that causes them to reconsider everything they’ve done. Just as they’re about to delete the account, they realize they’re locked out. Someone hacked GG, they aren’t in control anymore, and we have no idea what her identity is. Could even make it so the hacker is blackmailing the teachers about having made the account. We could watch the teachers in fight about if one of them is lying to blackmail the others. The tension about who GG is, if it’s a teacher, a student, maybe even a parent would be great.
The second you said "there's only one actor doing a good job" I was like 'if he doesn't say Thomas Doherty we're going to throw hands'
Did NOT expect the call back to ALL THE ACTORS PLAYING THE MARAUDER'S GENERATION WERE TOO OLD TO PLAY THEM IN THE MOVIE. Yes. yes. YES. Thank you. Used to yell about that on LiveJournal in the Dark Ages. (also thank you this reboot was awful and Julian especially was just SO OLD and I was like ???)
i read somewhere that they aged them up bc alan rickman had already been cast as snape and they had to match his age but it definitely made their deaths less effective imo
They could have fixed that so easily by just saying "he's a potion master y'all, dealing with foul smelling dangerous ingredients makes you age poorly... and being bitter enough to bully a 11 year old makes you look like that too!" 😤
The actors for the Marauders were really good tho..
@@HishamA.N_Comicbroe I don’t like shitting in actors, but no. Most of the actors in this show suck.
The casting for Harry's parents pissed me tf off tbh
peak cringe isn’t children liking a video game, it’s actually someone writing a teacher cyber bullying a bunch of teenagers and saying that it could make them the next aoc. nothing embarrassing i did when i was younger will ever compare to that line thank you friendly space ninja this has actually significantly improved my mental health
This is truly inspiring to us all. Remember everyone, if you've ever done anything cringe in your life, at least you weren't one of the Gossip Girls 2021 writers.
AOC is POS.
Going around in her "Tax the rich" dress after she voted for massive cororate bailouts in the stimulus bill.
Complaining about Palestine while voting for Israeli Iron dome funding.
Etc...
AOC is a right wing Democrat who LARPS as a lefty on twitter.
I totally agree with the whole age inappropriate casting- like in riverdale, when I saw Archie getting with his teacher, I thought she was like mayyybe 21? 22? And Archie was 17/18. Not exactly great, sure, but I wasn’t super put off by it mainly because they looked around the same age- but then I learned Archie was supposed to be 15- and it COMPLETELY FUCKED WITH MY HEAD-
I also feel like since Gossip Girl was adapted from the books, they had a lot of material to work with for the OG show and they don’t have that for this reboot.
To be fair, season one is mostly as good as it is because they take a lot of cues from the books. Things go off the rails in later seasons because they don’t have the source material to lean on as much.
"She thinks Gossip Girl is an educational tool to elevate the youth of New York."
A vengeful savior complex??? I wonder how they spun that in the pitch meeting and who decided this was a good idea.
A bunch of Karens
I mean that angle could work and potentially be really interesting if they were willing to make her character delusional and controlling with a superiority complex. Like if she absolutely believed she could make these kids into good people via like radical trolling paired with a moral lesson to show them the error of their ways that has potential. But that's expecting to much from the writers so
@@samanthastack1994 but she needs to be called out on her hypocrisy she's the villain in that situation
Oh yeah absolutely it doesn't work if she's not the villain which i think is another reason the show doesn't work is they really can't seem to pick a villain
I think the only reason shows like Gossip girl and PLL sort of worked in the first place is because they were set in the late 2000’s early 10’s when cell phones and the internet weren’t what they are now 🤷🏻♀️
i think a big reason the reboot of gossip girl is so bad is because they try to be politically correct. gossip girl only works bc the characters are (mostly) awful people who are ignorant and politically incorrect. there’s supposed to be bullying, sabotage, blackmail, debauchery, and plenty of scandals. just because they make all the characters rich kids with family issues who have lots of sex doesn’t make it gossip girl.
They could have done their politically correct thing but done it in a clever way. Like showing the characters doing performative activism and taking up all these causes for their social media brands but then gossip girl comes around and wrecks their shit and calls them out for the rich hypocrites they are. You could do something like satirize the whole CZcams apology thing we’ve seen on many occasions. Or you could have a character who, after being called out just decided f- it and embraces being a villain similar to Blair. Or they could look at the cancel culture of social media by having the first gossip girl blast be her bringing up something problematic that happened a few years prior.
I really don't agree with people coddling actors in recent years, going " Ohh oh my god, acting is sooo hard don't bully actors by criticizing them and calling them shit at their job! ". Acting is hard work, sure, 100%, but you know what? It's still a bloody job at the end of the day and you're expected to do well enough in that job. And to make it even worse, it's one of the most cushiony jobs you can have, instead of flipping burgers or being miserable dealing with god awful customers or just in general being stuck in the wage cage, you get to show up to a set and casually read lines and emote with essentially a bunch of friends and get to just hang out and get paid nice for it. So stop with that bullshit, criticize them like they should be and hold actors up to the deserved scrutiny.
What really turned me off this show was the fact that the teachers, grown adults, post pictures of their underage students online, without their consent or knowledge, just to mess with them. And DON'T even get me started on the problematic teacher/student relationship...
Agreed. This show is pretty gross in that aspect, but it's also just a pretty stupid thing to do. Why even TELL us that the teachers are Gossip Girl instead of making it plot twist instead? The story would have a lot more tension and mystery. That was the whole point.
Like, we don't care about these grown adults bullying students so why do they keep showing us their perspective? They're not sympathetic at all.
it gets even worse when the pictures are explicit too
The worst was when they post Max and Raffa's sextape. How did these teachers not think "Wait. Max is an underage student, Raffa is a teacher. Not only this would be gross and illegal for us to post that video, but we also should tell the cops about the grooming happening here."
And yet nope. They post it. That'll teach these kids to not be victims of sexual predators, I guess.
@@FKA91....???? they even post it? rafa literally deleted it from their dms
When you said this was the worst show in teen television, including Riverdale MY JAW DROPPED. Points were made. At least the Riverdale writers know the show is crap
I think you just put your finger on how this one ended up worse. Lack of self awareness
riverdale is not even bad they are self aware about bad writing and adapting comics now pls do not compare it this garbage
no, i'm sorry but anyone who looks at riverdale and then looks at gossip girl would choose gossip girl in a instant
@@raquellawlitet2992 riverdale is absolute garbage,
Riverdale is fun. Is it bad? Yes. This show is just bad. Not fun, really really bad. I just like the representation compared to shows like Riverdale, fate, or the OG Gossip girl.
Ive GENUINELY never heard a tv show sound this unrealistic just based on how bad the acting is. Nothing they say sounds real in a tv show. Thats how exaggerated theater acting is supposed to be, not a tv show meant to immerse you.
Why wouldn’t they just make “Gossip Girl” an actual submission gossip site? Then you can have all the characters send stuff in at various points and have them have to feel the guilts and vindications of actually screwing up the lives of people around them. Plus if you do it that way, then in season 2 or 3 when you run low on conflict, you can have the site get hacked and broadcast who sent in what to screw up all the dynamics on the show.
Well that was pretty much what original gossip girl was... and it seems like they wanted just to "inconspicuously" copy the characters but have a "new" plot..
I love when boring shows like this and Riverdale have hiatuses in the middle of the season, it's a BOLD move to give viewers a convenient spot to give up watching
the absolute insult that a whole group of teachers would do that????? wtf??? even if they were all assholes who didn't care about the kids, they what ... don't have a life? Those writers think teachers want to spend their free time on this as well? Here, the problem is again that the students all look old and so the absolute horror of this reveal doesn't look as shocking as it sounds bc everyone is clearly an adult.Yikes.
Still, a lot of fun to listen to you rage!
I agree, why couldn’t they age them up to college at least? Like I get the producers wanted to have sex scenes and skirt child labor laws but what they did was really stupid
well if you want names in my experience Mrs. Washbern, Mr. Woodworth, Mr. Read, Mrs. Bosina, Mrs. Washington and Mr. Lintch from Summit Academy were fine being on a facebook page that bullied students with disablities and incuraged them to kill them selves soooo not to far out of the realm of normal but that's just my experience as someone who was bullied online by my teachers
@@photofreak56 Those people are the exceptions. Not the status quo. And I bet your teachers aren't private school teachers who make bank taking bribes from students to make their grades higher. These are people who wouldn't give a shit about how bad their kids are, as long as they get paid. Your teachers probably had way different circumstances to stoop down to such a low level.
@@photofreak56 I'm sorry you had to experience this and your teachers were absolute assholes and deserve to be punished for that. And NO bullying is okay. The way it's shown in the show tho doesn't make sense. And that's what this rant is about.
Of course there are horrible teachers and sadly probably forever will be. But there are also always some who want to make it right.
How to fix Gossip Girl: Reboot:
Make Julian a mean girl, like absolutely horrendously mean and rude and make her motivation to bring Zoya to the school as a revenge for making her miss out on life with her mother. (Give her motivation to be a complete asshole)
Make Zoya messy. Let her play an innocent look and have her do sleazy shit behind people's back for her own benefit.
Gossip girl should never have been revealed and just be a news blaster for the student body, so everything is chaotic and everyone can throw their friends under the bus.
That friend group should of never even been together cause we didn't see their growth to show their chemistry and logic.
This show should of been about actually drama and chaotic comedy of Gossip Girl.
They should of revealed a murder in the beginning so we have clues to find out who died and who did the killing so we can try to guess who would be who while the plot plays out.
so you mean riverdale?
@@donovangallegos7839 Or Elite.
One of my favourite scenes to mock is the one where Julien actively discouraged a r*pe victim of her father and the teacher actively stalked her there thinking Julien was saying something inspirational so she took Gossip Girl to IG live while standing several feet apart where it’s impossible hear what she was saying. And get this, it back fires because, INSTAGRAM LIVE VIEWERS CAN LIP READ FROM A SCREEN THAT SHOWS FOOTAGE TAKEN 20 FEET AWAY FROM THE BLURRY OBSTRUCTED SUBJECTS.
he literally went joker mode at the end😭 the show broke him.
This show is his villain origin story.
Thomas Doherty acting his ass off with absolutely no material and barely anyone talking about it when the show aired is actually a crime
I feel like people forget that even OG gossip girl is barely watchable from season 4 on.
I know, i watched the whole thing like 8 times because i have no self control.
People sometimes ask why am I such a pessimist. This show is the reason why. No expectation=no pain or disappointment.
YOUR ANALYSIS OF BLAIR WAS BEAUTIFUL! I absolutely love her character. the complex layers of having someone be the Queen B who everyone fears be the most INSECURE self-destructive person and that every out of pocket thing she does still absolutely makes sense! Ugh I love your analysis.
I've never even seen the show and I love Blair just from what he's said about her. She sounds so cool and interesting!
I honestly hadn’t noticed how bad julien’s acting was, but the teacher, HOLY SHIT, im never super critical of acting but that was completely awfull, like someone that is in a high school play bc no one else could make it, simply terrible
Not to mention her “motives” because she starts fucking them up really good, then someone else starts taking over and suddenly she thinks what they’re doing is immoral and wrong, as if she wasn’t doing the exact same????? That was sooo poor
And obie: “oh me and julien we were done ages ago” two days later starts dating her sister and acts like she is the most amazing girl ever, then he’s suddenly madly in love with julien again for NO REASON
The teacher being GG could actually be a good premise if they turned her into a low level Joker type.
On the surface she seems to have good intentions but in solo moments with the audience we slowly see her dissent into madness.
I feel like I was hit by a truck when you said all the characters were 16, I really thought the season was set in uni or something based on the first half of this video
They all look like third years or older uni students, so surreal lol
Something about the acting and performances back in the early 2000 shows was so great. Like the vampire diaries, teen wolf, gossip girl ,pretty little liars. The charisma of the characters. Idk what It was buy is missing in today's shows sometimes
Right? I agree. I think that the actors back then put more effort into their performances, because shows like that were quite popular at the time. I dunno, but it always seemed that a lot of them were at least semi passionate about their characters. And it showed. Most actors on most teen shows now just seem tired, like they don't really want to be there, or they're not enjoying the character. Euphoria feels like a definite exception, but I honestly don't consider it a "teen" show.
even the "diversity" featured on the show is laughable to me since most shows are determined to pass the paper bag test. also literally every character looks almost identical to at least one other character on the show lmfao.
That's why I didn't even bother. I knew from the trailer I'd get so confused by who's who that I'd be as pissed as FSN. The diversity makes little sense bc most of the wealthy Americans are white. When there is a (racially) diverse character they're race is ambiguous. Like you said the paper bag test
@Lex Baker DUDE YOU'RE SO RIGHT
@Lex Baker Yes! For me, I understood the show as rich WHITE kids living in New York and their scandalous lives.
I just couldn't buy the everyone is sleeping with everyone trop too.
@Lex Baker yes yes yes! I personally went to public school which was genuinely diverse, but the first guy I dated when to the most elite boys school in my state and told me that their school had one token person of colour they would use for school promotion and that was it. I go to law school now so a lot of my classmates went to those same schools and one of my female friends told me that the school asked the students to make a scholarship pitch and a few groups said an indigenous scholarship and the idea was turned down so fast. GG wasn’t whitewashed just a reflection of an unfortunately true reality
I honestly watch your content, Ninja, because i enjoy your commentary about the downsides of a show. It cracks me up so hard and im here for it. The torment is hysterical.
Dear FSN, you are right now my favorite Video Essay CZcamsr and after just 5 episodes one of my favorite Podcast hosts aaaaaand all this after this short amount of time, you are a freaking legend!
Thank you for all of your Work!