the gossip girl reboot was meh (a costume review)
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if Julien is such a trendsetter, why is literally no one copying her style? like that doesn't make any sense, compared to how everyone copied Blair in the og loll
Good point!
That's so true, i also don't fell like she could become a huge trend in the real world like blair did with the hair bands and skirts... I just don't see it idk
@Mike M Not really. People are still copying celebrities. Maybe in their own style. It's not copying. It's called inspired. People are still getting inspiration from Cher and Fran Fine.
@Mike M deviate from trends altogetherâŠ? are we in the same gen or am i trippin. arent we the gen whoâs obsessed with having a certain aesthetic, the ones that made 10+ types to categorize one into? like being an egirl, dark academia, coconut girls, soft girl, cottagecore (not saying itâs a bad thing cause im guilty of this as well)⊠bruh, weâre also in the era where fast fashions brands are booming (thnx to online shopping) which literally rip-off each otherâs design. yes, thereâs a lot of aesthetics to choose from w/c makes us diverse but at the end of the day weâre still following a certain trend, thatâs still lowkey copying
@Mike M remember when quarantine happened and people were dying their hair strands in the front? is that not following a trend? curtain bangs??? wolf cut??? fox eye makeup??? remember that strawberry dress that everyoneâs raving about, almost everyone who can afford it bought it when it became popular??? yeah. still a thing boo
I donât think these âteenâ shows are actually made for teens. The way theyâre sooo sexualised and have unrealistic portrayals of teenagers is very weirdâŠ
Exactly, i believe very little portion of teenagers have had this unrealistic escenarios lol. She actually has a video about it. About how this shows arenât even realistic when your 14/17 meanwhile theres âsex educationâ for example, where they do look like teens and its more realistic
I feel like teen dramas are shows for millennials/gen x who in a way fetishize being a teenager but are targeted to teens because the characters are supposed to be teenagers
Also sorry if I worded that wrong
@Zo Leka I think you are totally right! My evidence for this opinion will completely out me as an old, old lady but whatever: I was in grad school in the early 90s and we were all *obsessed* by Beverly Hills 90210 (r.i.p. Luke Perry-Dylan 4ever). Meanwhile my younger siblings who were actual teenagers had no interest in the show. A huge part of the fan base was Gen Xers in their 20s! (And my grandma in her 70s, always a woman who scorned convention). So teen shows have been marketed at an older demographic for a long time. Similarly, everyone I knew was *mesmerized* by Claire Danes in âMy So-Called Lifeâ-but the show didnât develop a huge teen audience and was cancelled. That was a show, unlike 90210, in which the characters dressed and acted like genuine teenagers (Danes herself was about 15 yo). Good call Zo Leka! Letâs check back in 20 years from now and see if the principle still holds!
Ikr like I canât even watch the new season of elite its way too much
I kind of just feel like theyâre trying to hard to push how iconic Julien is but thereâs nothing about her character that stands out to me. Her fashion is meh, sheâs not problematic or heroic, weâre just supposed to believe that sheâs incredibly famous and influential. I donât know if itâs the shortcomings in the wardrobe, the acting, or the writing. I canât decide
Gonna be honest I buy that Monet and Luna would have been the influencers moreso then Julien I feel like the chose Julien because she has a famous dad so it was easier for her to gain a following
Honestly it kinda felt realistic how some of the blandest nepo kids become influencers, I donât think it was intentional though đ¶
@@susanalopez5052 actually this is such a good pointâŠsince when are 75% of influencers interesting people? Like most influencers gain a following cause people like looking at them even if they arenât particularly interesting or unique peopleâŠ. Plus amounting large followings isnât as terrible hard as it use to be especially cause Julien isnât portrayed as someone who has millions of followers
@@kennyb1588 if you look closely during episode 4, you would see that she actually has 12 million followers
@@k1k0000 oh shit I didnât even notice that thank you! I thought they were trying to say she had like. Few hundred thousandâŠ. At the most I would buy a couple million but 12m nah unless her dad is like BeyoncĂ© level famous in this world
Teacher/ Student relationships in teen shows need to be abolished!
Absolutely! Especially the romanticism of them like in PLL with Aria
On the bright side the show isnât portraying it as romantic thatâs a huge step in terms of these types of relationships in teen shows
Preach, they creep me out more than anything, but at least both this show and "Cruel Summer" explicitly pointed out that the teacher was grooming their student from the get go, and were blatantly using their position to take advantage of a minor.
@@trinaq cruel summer I havenât seen anyone talk about to and there is so many important things in there!
Like when Katy was telling her parents that them telling her to always accept attention from adults allowed her to be groomed without noticing was a huge one because a lot of parents do crap like that and donât allow their children to set boundaries which makes them easier to prey on
Also no matter how you spin it Katy was a victim and Janet has issues
@@kennyb1588 i feel like Janet was groomed a bit also. Janet was a victim in her own way. Her life got ruined over a misconception, she lost her mother and friends.
I felt like the writers were confused about what generation they were writing for and who their target audience was.
they were hoping to reach both and it just didnât work
they tried to appeal to both older OG fans and younger "Gen Z" new fans and instead made something that appeals to nobody
@@sarahn5715 yup
When you called us "New York pigeons" I was so relieved because "London pigeons" is a scathing insult
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âThe problems i had with the show didnât go away, i just got used to itâ is exactly how i feel đ i keep watching to see if itâll get better but it doesnât
I just ended up allowing myself to hate watch it. That made it a lot better (as good as a trash show can be) lol
What really turned me off this show was the fact that the teachers, fully grown adults, spread racy pictures of their underage students around the Internet, and they're framed as the heroes. Wait, WHAT?!
@@braingirl9112 I second that question
THEY WHAT!?!?!
No one frames them as heroes
Honestly the only teacher that I like is the brown haired lady because she doesnât give a damn and sheâs fully OK with her decision. Nobody cares about these teachers âshould I or shouldnât Iâ mentality if youâre going to make a decision like being gossip girl stick with it and make it entertaining
i don't think they're actually framed as hero's lol but yeah the teachers are gross :(
I also think what made Serena van Der woodsen work as a character, is that she had the good girl - rich girl persona down pat. I know quite a few rich girls that remind me of Serena. Their fluttering kindness to everyone as well as their slightly out of touch relationship with reality. I watched the OG gossip girl while reading a study on rich kids in American prep school for my sociology class. and there were so many practices and similarities between the behaviors of the OG show characters and the rich kids in the study. I don't see those same behaviors reflected in the reboot. its why the show doesn't seem believable to me. They seem more like actors in expensive costumes than actual rich kids.
What behaviors in particular do you mean?
Yeah, I totally get you, I would have liked if some of the characters would be socially and politically conscious, like how they set obie up to be the one most in touch with reality. But I totally agree that it feels like they began trying to convince us they were all rich assholes, but then have a million storylines having us empathise with each character. Theyâll no doubt attempt to backpedal and have future storylines where they become out of touch of reality since that could create alot of drama within itself. Wish they could have blurred the line between good and bad characters without making them all so empathetic, couldnât they have the same struggles but still be rich idiots that are out of touch with reality.
yeah i totally agree, the original show felt way more realistic in its portrayal of rich kid prep school culture, and this one feels a bit clunky and contrived.
What is the study called? Where can I read it?
@@lolahaze2937 Yah! its called Privilege by Shamus Kahn
what i've seen virtually no one mentioning is that we finally got a black girl wearing protective hair styles,, it gives her this modern look since we've seen everything from wigs to natural hair but no protective hair styles lately
And it looks so good too! Finally
Hey can i ask what you mean with protective hairstyles? Do you mean the one girl wearing braids?
@@forgetmenot277 protective hair styles are generally braids, bantu knots, corn rows etc. just anything braided or tied into the scalp! so yes the girl wearing braids
@@sky-zo2ml ah okay thanks for the explanation!
YESS. loved seeing the locs AND Zoyas natural hair đđ. Ngl even the no makeup moment was lowkey groundbreaking. Thatâs how low the bar is lmao
The whole thing about the teachers being behind gossip girl just made me not watch the show. In the age of social media there were so many interesting ways they could have done it but chose the most garbage way to do so.
Same for me, I actually just got into the original series because my friend is obsessed with it and was a bit excited about the reboot until I heard about that plot point. It's just so stupid, most of my teachers wouldn't even agree to my friend request on social media until I graduated high school and I'm expected to believe these teachers who live in the city that never sleeps have nothing better to do with their time than stalk and bully their students?
I know itâs so fucking lame, I would actually prefer not to know who gossip girl was
@@lenarushing460 exactly. They could have easily made it an anonymous twitter account to keep the mystery but chose teachers for some reason.
@@Las645 same. Like make it an anonymous twitter account or something. That would make so much more sense and add a mysterious edge to the show.
I only watched the first episode and immediately did not like it bc the teachers are the gossip girl, which is weird for me. I couldnât even get myself to finish the second episode. And honestly i did not bother to finish or try to watch the other episodes
I disagree about the social justice elements in the show not being used for woke points, to me it all felt very performative, like when Obie was at the protest. That whole protest ended up just being used as a backdrop for their stupid love triangle drama, and it ended with Obie and Julien kissing while people were running around getting tear-gassed. I don't think this show tackles any of the actual issues in a meaningful way.
YES. THANK YOU that whole part did not sit right with me
I think they know that though. Obieâs been criticized multiple times for being a performative activist, and people can see through his act (like we did Danâs). I definitely agree with your point that itâs more empty politics than real ones, but I think theyâre tackling the guilty rich persona okay. Obie doesnât recognize his own privilege staring him in the face, and (I think) thatâs the point.
YES THAT WAS SO UNNECESSARY
YES! there is no way for a show about rich ppl to actually be âsocially consciousâ
right!! also theyâre super rich kids and even tho obie makes it seem like he doesnt like indulging in it all, he 100% is
I think what bothers me about the show is that it doesn't meaningfully engage with class, which is a topic I think a lot of this generation are conscious about. Rather than portray the main characters as being clueless rich kids, they make them aware of social issues like gentrification, police brutality, and worker's rights but doesn't analyze how their financial position intersects with their beliefs.
yeah exactly like zoya is still a rich girl at the end of the day she does contribute to gentrification indirectly she should actually acknowledge her privileges
@@insiya7810 zoya is a nepto baby too. Her sister bought her a place at Constance billiards
@@asheknowsbestbest5135 Isn't every place at Constance bought? The tuition is sky high.
@@stefanmakara373 no so- in the show, Zoya is a scholarship student. The scholarship is funded by Julienâs dad and Julien just paid to make sure Zoya got a scholarship rather than anybody else
SO WELL SAID
iâm pissed that they got thr other teacher fired because she was the nicest teacher to be honest
Me too, she didn't deserve to get fired. đđ
The optics are bad too. She was the only POC/WOC on the team until that sex offender hopped on board to get back at Max(?)
@@randombrokeperson exactly!! i talked abt this with my sister while i was watching it, did no one in this seemingly "woke" production crew realize that the implications of two white ppl getting the only woc fired to save their own skin is bad?? or did they just not care abt it?
@@jasmim9194 Right! The show tries (way too hard) to be woke, but between that and the protest turned police brutality #moment that involved Julien and Obie making out and humping in an alley while everyone else was screaming and running for their lives... this show can be really tone deaf. I think their wokeness is just another example of Hollywood posturing.
It bothered me as well that she was fired but knowing how karma works, being fired is better than what the teachers doing all this stuff will get.
i was pretty horrified by the many people who actually WANTED the student/teacher relationship to happen
I kinda feel like an entire generation has ben brainwashed by shows like pretty little liars
Hi, two years late to the party but THANK YOU. Rafa should be in PRISON, and the worst part is that within the two seasons of the show, Max got taken advantage of at LEAST TWICEâŠmy boy deserved a break
@@Just_Julia_ lol but yes!! truly poor guy :(
@@No1PlutoSupporter I watched the reboot a few months ago (without watching the OG- I donât have that kind of time) and fell in love with Max immediately (definitely helps that Thomas Doherty played a massive role in my childhood but I digress) and likeâŠwhy wasnât Max allowed to be happy? Just let my boy have a moment!
julien could've been wearing a fanny pack as a shoulder bag, that would've been... more recent. on the hips is too ostensibly a past and buried trend
Who wears a loose fanny pack, around the lower waist, over an oversized blazer!! I don't remember that ever being a trend!! It flatters no one!! I'm still upset about this look srly
Shoulder bags/baguette bags or knee high boots definitely could've been her thing. I remembered her from the first pics when they were filming (her with the red fendi baguette and croc print boots) cause I thought she was a baddie and wanted to know who she was. Julien could have that "influence" everyone in new gg claims she's got if they do it RIGHT.
As a person who experienced a polyamorous relationship I absolutely H A T E how overly sexualized and romantisized these relationships are portrayed in most Hollywood productions. They take a lot of responsability, commitment and, most of all, love and emotional intimacy
i would love to see a poly asexual qpr and see how they would handle that lol media treats everything as "its cant be interesting without being sexually!!!" its so annoying
@@No1PlutoSupporter couldn't agree more, as long as it sells
Right!? I could honestly could never with the extra level of communication plus *insecurities*.
It rubs me the wrong way that the poly relationship has a bi man, a pan man, and a straight women. to me it makes to rep feel weird⊠almost sexualizing not just these identities but tying the sexualization into the poly relationships. ( iâm not poly so if iâm overstepping please let me know) but it makes it seem like these relationships are something sexy and hot when the characters have weak communication imo and arenât as responsible as it seems needed in these kind of relationships. Overall i agree it just seems so sexualized but hopefully they focus more on accurate and genuine portrayal in the future
@@gabrielleporter553 you're so right, I mean, it's disturbing how ignorant it is to assume that a stable polyamorous relationship is just "going with the flow" and "let's have sex pretty much everywhere". There are MANY verbal agreements and awkward conversations which were NEVER conveyed in the series.
"new york pigeons," the alt version of calling us "doves"
The old GGâs costuming mentioned characters having certain pieces that felt very old or might come off as dated but are actually passed down from family and I think thatâs a cool touch especially for the old money characters
I feel like Bridgerton should have shown producers that we like camp. we want to see colors and campiness and outrageousness. the entire 2010 decade was dedicated to dark edgy shows and I feel like we're over this period. The outrage people had over fate the Winx saga, and the rise of costume commentary youtube in general should be a hint to producers that we want something new. My question is why are they not seeing it, and why do they keep playing it safe, ultimately resulting in meh TV shows no one cares about?
EXACTLY! I WANT COLOUR
heads up - fate the wix saga has changed a bit of its production team and are working on stuff the fans wanted to see
s2 is actually looking hopeful now
i think thats because they use older designers and dont take any inspiration from young celebrities
THIS!!! I do have my issues with Bridgerton, but oh my gosh, it was such a breath of fresh air to see color and patterns! I'm sick of squinting or messing with my TV brightness and contrast settings to see stuff.
I think it's because when people are making and producing shows they are way behind with what the actual culture or moment is. Winx came out this year but would have been made in 2019 or early 2020. People forget that productions take a long time and what would have been trendy then would have changed now. Like Julien's fanny pack, if they were popular at the time of production or filming of the show and then fell out of fashion by the time the show aired that's no fault of the show.
Why reboot a show that ended less than 10 years ago? I just think some of these reboots are totally unnecessary for the time being.
When writers can't think of any original ideas, they start making reboots.
They're rebooting PLL despite it finishing just 4 years ago.
@@Anas0_ali that show shouldn't have been an original let alone a reboot
Easy marketing, unfortunaly reboots nowadays suck.
cough cough *shes all that reboot*
@@ieatchickentendies7324 havenât even watched it because the trailer alone makes me wanna bleach my eyes
youre the reason i'm so interested fully in fashion history thank you so much for introducing me to this :)) i have always loved fashion but your channel just exponentially expanded my views and I can't thank you enough sweet angel
Ditto, Mina and Modern Gurlz have got me a lot more interested in costumes in TV and movies, and how it reflects the characters.
@@trinaq yess i love their channels too!
Ikr??? I also want to work in (or try to work lol) in fashion law! So all if this is so helpful :)
I kind of wish they gave Julien a âroyaltyâ accessory like gloves/statement jewellery/fur, similar to the capes in the original gg.
The costume designer says they did that with her bike shorts
@@shmffff i mean⊠thatâs not completely comparable to royalty lmao
Iâm glad they making predatory adults look like villains instead of thinking itâs normal and good like the millennials had when they were younger.
This
The show feels like it's trying too hard. The og was trashy cw show at its best. It didn't take itself too seriously and was way over the top. I feel like the new show is just trying to play it more of the euphoria route of trying to mix darker and serious stuff along with the fun dumb stuff, but is just not pulling it off.
It feels too polished and sterile. It needs to have more fun with itself and do some cringey and fun stuff.
Exactly!! Idk if there is a single one liner or a funny scene in the whole 6 episodes
I agree. That's what turned me off of the show. Plus none of these characters feel memorable or enjoyable to watch to me in the way that Euphoria cast does. The tone may be dark, but the characters are still colorful. Even say Riverdale. Terrible show lol. But the cast sticks out. They each have a distinct style and vibe that sticks. All these teens just feel...bland
@@tvddamonlovernina I know right. Like they are trying hard to make the dialogue 'iconic' but it comes across as just cringey.
Since the setting and tone is going for a subdued and not crazy over the top portrayal unlike the og, the 'badass' one liners just feel out of place.
@@justcallmeteacup4711 exactly. They are just not that memorable. It just feels bland as shit
@@tvddamonlovernina
I mean, Monet and Luna have some iconic one liners. Their role just isnât emphasized enough to hold through. But they are the saving grace of the show: unabashedly filthy rich mean girls.
Fashion-wise, the reboot feels like the "Amber" to the OG Gossip Girl"s "Cher." The OG gossip girl set trends while the reboot tries to copy trends, but is falling just a step behind.
Love that reference!! Completely agree
absolutely, it felt off when the designer said he drew inspiration from Instagram influencers.
I was waiting for someone to review the outfits! I never grew up watching gossip girl but I know it had a lot of impact on pop culture. I haven't heard much about the new gossip girl so its lack of pizazz says a lot.
You should check out Clever and Chic's video analysing the character's first outfits đ
Lisa Fevral did a fashion review just before the pilot episode came out but she was more so working through screenshots
Hey Mina itâs worth mentioning that this was a mid-seasons finale so there are going to be 6 more episodes
yeah i was like what itâs not even half over yet
Most of these âteenâ shows are aimed at adults for them to fantasize about when they had no responsibilities but, in order to be relatable, they project adult situations onto teens. I find it distasteful and kind of pathetic but it would make sense.
I'm an adult (a younger one at 23), but either my life is too bland and boring, or producers think teens and young adults are too reckless and racy as they portray them in these kind of shows.
omg finally someone who mentioned how dark some of the scenes were đ love this series + costume review!
I donât feel the reboot is less campy than the original, either the same level or even more so, actually. Definitely feels more awkward, maybe with the acting: Leighton Meester nailed Blair since the beginning and her charisma drew me in. And Julien, who was supposed to be this groupâs queen bee, is quite bland (reminds me of a Serena type in personality than Blair), other character like Monet, Max or Audrey could be the leader instead. I was a fan of the original and it doesnât bother me at all they added more politics into it: the original show also had it, but toned it down, like most shows of that era. The way they deal with it, thatâs the thing. Something I would like to see is Zoya talk about her own privileges too and go deeper into financial inequality since theyâre already touching on it. But it was indeed a disappointment because they marked it like a ânew generation of Gossip Girl with all new approachâ and it didnât felt like it. It feels rather stiff.
I felt like they channeled Glee rather than GG with the teachers there. And I agree with you, those scenes are unnecessary to the plot and not to be called "hot", its just weird.
You know what I don't like? When they make POC activists for the entirety of the series. Like yea, POC does fight for rights, but to make it the whole character and make someone like that for woke points just doesn't rub me the right way.
i liked that they made actual Instagram accounts for the characters . even tho the show was so unrealistic it was kinda good that they did something real.
The biggest problem with the fashion is that the original gossip girl didnât seek to look like anything that ânormalâ average income students wear but this one is just that, itâs nothing we donât see often and itâs not iconic.
I didnât like maxiâs character he fit right into the mold of hyper sexual bisexual. I thought after the teach situation the writers would let him take more time on being a good friend and process it more that threesome scene and cp video so gross that i skipped over bothđ€ą
sameee those scenes were just too uncomfortable to watch
Samee! As a bisexual I was so offended. They had the perfect opportunity to show that bisexual people (and polyamorous too) are literally just normal people. Also didn't appreciate how he was kinda predatory to others bc it fits another sterotype that bisexual people are all abusers
I must say I was rather underwhelmed with the male fashion in show. Even though Max and Aki were definitely the best dressed, I still though a lot of the outfits were outdated. Yes, I thought they were realistic, but I would love to see some more experimentation. More jewelry, more accessories, diversified silhouettes, less 2018 and more 2021. In saying that, I admit my style is 100% like Aki's, but that's why I would like to see something difference, something I can't pull off IRL...
For the men, I kind of expected a kpop vibe. Just really extra, really expensive. Lots of lace, glitter, jewelry or just really simple but well-cut stuff with maybe one or two eye-catchers. Cause no one does male fashion better than kpop.
I wish they had modelled Akiâs looks after Evan Mockâs own red carpet/editorial looks. Heâs playful, colourful and tailored.
@@mellowenglishgal I agree, he has amazing fashion sense
Aki is more into streetwear
@@pippapapillon9327 i have to disagree; male kpop fashion actually borrows a lot of elements from americana. as they say, you canât outdo the doer.
I just feel like shows these days are trying so desperately hard to have their Clueless, the nanny, mean girls iconic fashion moments and are failing miserably. This show and the looks just seem so uninspired and predictable. Not even a throuple with fine ass Evan Mock can keep me interested in this show đ„± Elite season 1 wants it storyline back.
I haven't watched elite so idk if the plot line is a threesome or a poly relationship? I think (hope) that GG is going for a poly relationship which is honestly the only plotline I care for
@@tvddamonlovernina They have a threesome storyline in Elite. The interesting thing about Elite though is the murder/mystery aspect of it
@@lightangel452 aaaahhh got it
@@tvddamonlovernina they have both actually with different ppl
right even mock so fine but even him being in the snow isnât keeping me interested anymore
yes mina give me your opinion so that I can be able to form one too HIFEIRHWUHGUERJGN
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It is kind of a thing for young rich girls to dress like they are 40. That's how they show their wealth.
@@kingkris6877 Oh OK thanks that makes sense. Probably I should clarify that this is mostly just a trend with old money people, less so with new money.
I NEED Mina to make a costume review of It's Okay To Not Be Okay kdrama. Plssssss. I'm sure she would love every single Ko Moon Young outfit.
I second this!!
She is such a fashion godess
Generally focusing on Kdramas would be great! Western TV shows have become so boring
@@tamerebel Hell yeah!
I think we should remember that they filmed the first part of this season like over a year ago. The trend cycle moves a lot fast than it did back in the original Gossip Girl days. It makes sense that their outfits wouldn't align perfectly with the current popular instagram trends. I personally really liked the costuming on the show.
That is true but still ,a lot of the fashion trends they used were popular years ago ,and there were plenty of trends that they could have utilized that were popular when it was being filmed . It just doesnât make sense for these supposed trend setters to be outdated in 2020 or 2019 whenever it was filmed
itâs true !! but all the outfits are a crap :(
@@pixiedust0003 yeah I know what you mean. None of the outfits felt new and inventive. But, I liked how each character had a distinct style that showed their personality. Hopefully they can build off of those styles but add more modern/experimental pieces in the future episodes *fingers crossed*
That's not the only issue. It's not just that the outfits felt dated, they just didn't look great! I honestly, couldn't ever see myself copying Julien's style, it looked frumpy. And the other girls styles weren't awfully but just weren't anything new. They weren't great visually and even basic simple elegant outfits would've been better than this. There is really a visual aesthetic (and I don't mean aesthetic tropes like cottagecore etc. I mean aesthetic in its natural visual meaning).
But at the same time gossip girl was a true trendsetter and it influenced high fashion for a couple of years in its prime. It had a very interesting take on older fashion trends mixed with the modern age and still to this day feel different and very well thought out compared to most tv shoes who want to reach the same goal but fail in the process.
I'm a millennial but I watched the original Gossip Girl quite a few years after it initially aired and it came across like self-aware satire that enjoyed making fun of itself and playing around with soap opera tropes. I don't feel like it took itself very seriously and was honest about how ridiculous and artificial everything in the show was and I loved that about it. I like that the characters are self absorbed and completely out of touch and I don't think it's important for them to be likeable or relatable. The new GG doesn't come across as playful or self-aware in the same way and just seems like any other teen drama.
I do want to add onto the âteens dressing like adultsâ concept weâve seen in TV shows and movies. And why itâs actually not that unrealistic. While itâs true that some teens dress age appropriately and have a more childish sense of style, itâs also not uncommon for teenagers to try and act âgrown upâ. My sister and all her friends, and peers, dressed a lot more maturely than what youâd imagine a 14-18 teenager to look like. So it doesnât surprise me that, especially in this scenario, they would try to emulate a more mature style since being âdone upâ ages you a bit.. and thatâs a âgoodâ thing when youâre trying to pass as an adult at the club đ
I agree with this but as a high schooler the outfits in this show were not âtrendyâ at all and Iâm confused how they were trying to design the fashion this show..
@Sophie Thatâs very true!
I actually tried watching the show and I couldn't even get past the first episode... This kind of show doesn't slap the way they think it do...
Yeah like influencers in their 20s not like millenials/ middle aged womenđ
Mina goes into detail about this in her âthe problem about teen dramasâ video!
YES! Finally someone who understands my gripes with this show! It seemed like everyone online was enjoying it but me (and my friends). I found this show sooo hard to get through which is honestly sad because I was really looking forward to it at first
i wanted to see an academically strong character in the reboot (basically somebody similar to blair) but probably the closest character to that is only audrey :/
IKR it was so nice to for a change have a bad guy nerd
Audrey said that school sucks in Dumbo Hall when Zoya said to focus on that when trying to convince her mom not to leave the city. Monet might be the most academically strong since she mentioned doing the entire pr thing for Julien to get an elite marketing internship the next summer.
Yeah I would liked something about academics, but thereâs no academic stakes or talk about school or college. Maybe itâs because the kids are rich and donât have to worry? I think even mentioning academic pressure would have been nice
@@judey_moony Honestly teen dramas need to focus on that. It could honestly be a really good conflict.
As someone who actually had to wear school uniform, it always makes me giggle to see these high-fashion-looking outfits these kids apparently get away with wearing. I looked like a potato sack every day age 4 to 18 and i think we need better representation of potato sack girls who arenât allowed jewellery, loose hair or visible makeup đ€
Same... I mean, my school was pretty lenient, and my uniform actually resembled Constance's uniform (white short or long sleeved shirt, with a dark blue pleated skirt), but no one could really "accesorize" it besides hair accesories, earrings, sweaters or shoes (when I started there, these could be any size and color, by the time I ended they only allowed 2 colors for each, black and white). No makeup was allowed nor fake nails.
I know right. And some people think wearing a uniform is cool, but when you've attended a regular school and it was ugly as hell you would not think so.
mina i just wanted to say thank you for always putting captions on your videos, iâm not exactly hard of hearing but i find it hard to follow along when listening to people speak so iâm always glad when i see subtitles in a video
It would have been more believable if they made the new gossip girl (the character) a student attempting to copycat the OG
Regina's son was just RIGHT THERE
Oh I totally agree about the characters being dressed older than their years but also I think thatâs a concious choice on the designerâs part to make them all seem ~sophisticated~ to their audience. And yeah I didnât like the weird shapes being made by their clothes/silhouettes :/. Wonderul vid as always đ„°đ„°đ„°
Yes and in the OG they used mature style too, I feel like thats the point of Gossip Girl - teens acting like adults.
Mina Le called me a New York pigeon and Iâve never been more flattered.
i also hated the fact that they made the teachers gossip girl. i was hoping when kate said they would end it, that at the end, the gossip girl instagram would be back, but not by the teachers. that would have been interesting, and the whole mystery of who is gossip girl is what made the original more interesting.
Tbf the og characters were also styled older than the characters age compared to what the viewers were wearing.
I think most teen dramas entered specifically around Gen Z can't seem to get the lingo right either, the scripts come off really corny and superficial and gen z isn't as superficial or stupidly regurgitating moot points as they seem... the costuming + language is deffo missing what gen z has been bringing to the table on tiktok and insta - I needed to see a lil more mentions of the brands they were wearing in the show, because people do talk about that stuff irl - like "I copped the tellers before they sold out" or "these limited edition Off White Jordans are passing the fit check right?" - references to trending twitter topics both political and apolitical would make the whole thing more believable...they need gen z writers in the writer's rooms!!
I was in high school when the original Gossip girl came out and I was OBSESSED and have watched it numerous times...so I still haven't watched the new one lol. I've seen photos and watched the trailer but it seems very try hard? That could just be a biased opinion because I love the original, but the fashion in the new one isn't quite on the same level in my opinion. Like you said a lot of the silhouettes don't make sense to me, and you don't really get that "Old Money" vibe from the original.
However I will say a lot of the non-uniform clothes worn on the original gossip girl weren't youthful either! They could've been worn by college kids (Or older) especially the night looks... but it somehow worked? The actors were in the early 20s tho so maybe that also helped.
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As a future teacher I can't express how uncomfortable I am with the romanticizing of the student- teacher relationship đ«đ«đ«
i think they should've had some emma chamberlain inspo, and maybe have other characters in the background wear styles that julian had worn before (to show that she is setting trends)
The season isnât over yet though, this was a mid season finale
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I'm surprised you didn't talk about Aki's style. I'm really confused why they would let Aki have pink hair and wear earrings.
It feels to me, they liked Evan Mock's style without questionning if it fitted the character's personality. Aki is supposed to be reserved, calm, a sort of peacemaker. He don't seem to like to stand out.
The most striking moment is, when in the first episode, Max proposed to Aki a blue and pink shirt, which he refused saying "i don't like to stick out". He could have said i don't like it or it's not my style, but he didn't and that's important. Si how are we supposed to believe him when he has pink hair?
They are still teenagers, it's not that easy to dare that type of hairstyle, especially for a guy ! I would have liked to see him evolved into someone more confident throughout the season, trying new things like earrings, pink hair, etc.
But having that style for him already seems too soon.
Apparently, I heard through instagram grapevine that all of HBO's costume budget went to gossip girl and not the SATC reboot (the SATC reboot paparazzi pics of the show are getting a lot of attention because some think Carrie's outfits are less than inspiring). Just thought it was interesting that HBO would decide to give more money to a show centered around teenagers vs. grown women that are WAY more established and thus could more afford designer clothes
Yeah every episode i had the thought ' they seem more like trend followers than setters' which seemed opposite for the original show!
I was really excited for the fashion and the show because Gossip Girl basically raised me. The OG Gossip Girl slayed the event costumes and the uniforms but this new one is so bland in every way possible. The plot, the costumes, the characters just everything
Yea it was a total flop. And I bet you that you can blame all of these people who crying about gossip girl being too raunchy. Gossip girl was always advertised as crazy dramatic steaming parents worst nightmare. But all of these prudy sensitive people getting offended by a fiction series is why they had make the reboot as bland as Karens dinner spaghetti. Like what is up with these people, just don't watch if you don't like it. Especially if something is advertised as being bad it's going to be bad, not good with a shining halo.
I think that they would've been better off going with the old format. But especially USA citizens (not to offend anyone) had so many complaints, I really didn't see any other countries having problems with the show. I wish they'd done US version and normal version, like so many other shows and movies and music have done. That way we could have gotten a great show. But to be fair it's American show so I guess it has to suit American style.
@@pinkybear8082 oh I totally agree. Itâs soo bland. Was only there for the fashion because NO gossip girl spin-off show can ever be as good as the og Imo. But even the fashion wasnât realllllyyyyy inspiring. Like og gg, campy but glamorously campy. And I think they couldâve gone the same route. But itâs okay. Maybe theyâll change it wonât but itâs not bad at all. Just canât help to think about og gg. So thatâs why I feel like this.
@@anyone1111 Yea. Og gg was so big trend setter! It was that time when brands didn't do TV, but gossip girl got fashion back to TV! I knew before the reboot started that they toned it down a lot. But when the fashion isn't even it, there's nothing left in the show. They really removed everything, all the things that made gg the gg was taken out. I think they really should've just make completely another but similar show because gg format without the ingredients of gg is just not gonna work. Yea it's not bad show! but it's a bad gg show.
@@pinkybear8082 YES everything I absolutely agree with. Gossip girl has its own tier in tv that just canât be released as another tv show- well thatâs fresh in its own way- nowadays it seems sadly. But thank goodness it was made as it was because my fashion loving self (and Iâm sure you are a fashion aficionado too) just couldnât be without this show and how lovely it is no matter how many times I rewatch it lol. But yes they removed everything that I like about the show. It seems like thatâs kind of the trend nowadays. Like any spin-off or new tv show from a book is just not it. It doesnât measure up in the way that it could have which is so sad because Iâm sure it can get better. But the question is will it? And will people who may have never seen gg like it anyways? (Which theyâre missing out if they havenât seen it omg!!)
I just feel like the writers need to understand that teenagers do not speak the way they do on social media.
In OG GG every frame looked like a breathtaking fashion editorial. Based on what we've seen so far, I cannot say I find it likely to get such moments
But substance is more important than visual, and let's be real, it's not like OG GG makes a lot of sense after s1
who else has been waiting for mina to do a vid on this?? sheâs the best đ„ș
whenever I watch the show I try not to think theyâre in the 14 - 17 age range because it feels so weird seeing the sexual scenes, they donât even look or feel like teens⊠I also wish weâd see more of Monet and Luna because they seem to have the fashion down (being the best dressed) and (at this point) the most interesting as they havenât utilized their characters
I look forward to all your style review videos!! I never realized how much the clothing in a show/movie helps tell a story until I started watching your videos! Especially in regards to Zoya in this instance with the revolution books store bag and the reusing of items. it shows the stylists really went above and beyond to make this characters really represent where they come from.
Will forever love BlairÂŽs style. ICONIC. đ€
I think my biggest issue isn't even the fashion choices because I did NOT see what they were wearing!!! In the original the clothes were in the shot all the time, lighting was good and I could see what everyone is wearing!! Here it's either dark or the camera didn't focus on clothes much
i love, love, LOVE watchin ur vids, its soo chill, i love ur style, ilyy fr
Your mental organization and the way this video is executed brings me peace, the way you speak & the way you display your ideas with the viewers is amazing
i looove these costume reviews videos! there's a spanish show on netflix called valeria and i think you'd have fun reviewing the styling choices aswell
Loving the headband! Thank u for the video đ
Lol "just got used to it" is the most accurate description for why I watched it as well. Every week I thought maybe I was just remembering it wrong and it would be better
it would be so cool if u reviewed the fashion from the original show!!!
i really needed this video right now... thank u so much mina!! ur the best :(
your videos and expertise are so amazing they fill the void of my soul thank you
your videos are always so entertaining and informing. i donât know anything about fashion nor fashion history but you make them so interesting i canât help but watch đȘ
I canât tell u how much I needed this video right now ahjaja instant mood boost
mina looking all that pretty and glowing after a roadtrip with her friends is what i want in my life đ
so glad you uploaded today! i've been having a bad day so I really needed this
Hope you feel better â€ïž
Aww well I hope your day gets better and whatever is going on it youâre going through, I hope it all works out. And Iâm cheering for you!đ„°
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I love the way you talk fashion! Fashion history has been so cool to get to learn. Any chance you'll do Downton Abbey soon? I'm fascinated by the costume design
I have nothing with fashion but watching your videos is making it so much more interesting for me and I absolutely love it! I just started watching Downton Abbey which takes place at the beginning of the 20th century and I think it would be awesome if you could talk about the clothes, I would love to hear what you think about it!
I completely agree with everything. I thought the writing was pretty lazy at times. After 6 episodes I still donât really know why this show exists because nothing really happened? All in all I thought it was quite shallow which is sad because thereâs so much potential. But the dialogue was also tone deaf at times. đ
It's a good day when mina uploads.
As someone with hearing impairment and not a native, I wanted to drop by and say thank you for keeping the subtitles going in most videos, I know words but but most complex ones I never get to hear so I have no idea how they're pronounced so yeah... lots of love âĄ
Youâre right of course, about them being styled older. But I must say, when I was in my teens in NYC I would definitely go thrifting for fits that aged me up so I could go to bars, so in this case I think itâs true to life.
ma'am i have been WAITING for this
Side note: Mina! This shirt is everything. I live for that sleeve!
all of your vids are so good mina i love u
I looooove the aesthetic of ur videos; the composition, the background, ur clothes like omggg
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I just canât get past the teachers being Gossip Girl. Like you said, they donât have ANYTHING better to do living in NYC?!
I don't understand why the teachers are targeting Zoya OR Julian either! Why are all the posts centred around someone like Zoya who comes from a "poor" background and hasn't done anything to hurt anyone. Teachers reasoning for the account: We want to hold the rich entitled students accountable.
What happens: Ok so we'll target the scholarship student who is running from extreme bullying. Let's bully her and make sure her life is miserable while giving more fire for the other students to dislike her.
Instead it ends up being an excuse for these petty teachers to take out their frustrations on innocent people while the students doing actual harm (like Monet and Luna) have even stronger ground to stand on. So it makes Gossip Girl just as bad as the actual rich entitled students and not doing anything to incite actual change or consequences. ugghh
Another amazing video Mina (they all are)! When are you going to do an analysis focusing just on the original series and itâs impact on fashion? Even with the reboot I still see more of the original (maybe nostalgia?), but would love to know what you think of just the OG series alone
i honestly don't have a big interest in fashion but i really love your channel! i think it's probably because of the way you captivate me and your prestance. just wanted to say i enjoy your content and i like you a lot!
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YAY new upload! I love ur videos soooo much that I rewatch them đ
I just wanna stop and say THANK YOU FOR SUBTITLES!!! I know it must take so much work to go through and write out everything you say again, but it makes such a big difference in comparison to the auto generated ones. Xoxoxo, your adoring fans