Unifi Dream Wall Review : Is It Worth It?
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2024
- In this video I take a look at the new Unifi Dream wall. I head up to my parents and get it installed, mount some cameras and then take a look at the dashboard
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0:00 Intro
1:10 Taking a closer look at the Unifi dream wall
2:28 Looking at the Unifi dream wall specs
3:15 Driving to install the Unifi dream wall
4:22 Looking at the Unifi gear that will be installed
5:14 installing network gear
8:10 looking at where the cameras were mounted
8:57 Taking at look at the Unifi dream wall settings
10:46 Looking at Unifi Protect
11:49 Final thoughts and do I recommend the Unifi dream wall - Věda a technologie
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There’s so much space in the box that it should accommodate 2 PSUs and a hdd. Actually kind of shocking that a over $1k device doesn’t allow HDD but only SD cards.
That would be too reasonable.
@@sirlesliechao 🤣🤣
Tysm for recoarding this!❤❤
I have a UDW in my home since the first round of early access and agree with all of your critiques. The SD card and low camera limit is very strange. For most of its time in Early Access is showed the same camera capacity as a UDM-SE but it was reduced in a firmware update close to launch. I'm using a 1TB SD card which gives me about 2 weeks of footage on my 6 x 2k cameras with a mix of ongoing and detection-only recording. I can't understand the decision not to include a HDD slot or even an option for an NVME SSD or two.
Surprised to learn it only includes one PSU. My EA unit has both PSU's occupied and firmware shows the power load split evenly between them at all times.
At the $700 I paid for it, I'm still happy with it. But at today's pricing and the newly imposed camera limits, I'd get a UDM-SE and another POE++ capable switch if I were to buy again now.
Nice video Cody. Enjoyed the short video of the ride in a beautiful area. Good use case for the Dream Wall is for those who need the functionality of patch panel, switch and UDM but who don't have space for or don't want a rack mount. This is much better looking than a network rack.Many homes today have "structured wiring boxes" - this could work very well for those homes. I agree with your comment about adding another disk bay for extra storage.
I avoid those structured media cabinets, they always terrible. I'd much rather find a way to make a 19" rackmount work.
Neat box. I like the compact wall mount setup for smaller installs. I would like to see the power supplies have individual power connectors similar to what the 1u servers use. Would also like to see a DC power supply module supporting 9-60 volts for RV/Yacht/work van use with Site Magic. Cody is right about having a 3.5" harddrive bay in there to support more cameras.
Awesome setup at your parents, I'll be doing the same at mine in a few months.
I love my UDW, it is the perfect setup my new construction home. :) Similarly to how you set it up for your Mom, I did the same in my house. I just opted for a patch panel above the unit.
I’m interested to see what changes when unifi releases the UDM-Wall Pro. When it was originally posted, it covered most of the UDM-Wall’s shortcomings you've pointed out.
Great video i would like that that the new cable modem could be integrated in this setup as a module.
I do like the all-in-one concept and it does fit the form factor of vertical network cabinets. I think this is a niche product, but I can see this being installed in small offices. I liked the idea of vertical network cabinets, then I realized that not much else can fit in these enclosures and the enclosures take up a lot of wall space. I prefer wall-mount racks as they take up less wall space, you can fit more in it and swap equipment easier. The other downside to this product when it is time to upgrade, you have to take down everything.
Micro SD cards are terrible with write cycles. They fail hard and suddenly. A 2.5" or 3.5" drive bay would have been better.
For general troubleshooting, the large screen is nice for the person on site to relay information to the technician. But I wonder if the better option would be a larger 2x2in or 4x4in screen that mimicked the function for all UniFi's Gen 2 devices. It makes programming and troubleshooting things easier when you don't need to memorize or document every function for every device.
The integrated switch is strange. Why not make all the ports PoE+ with the ability to toggle passive PoE and the last 4-8 ports PoE++? I do like that there is a SFP+ port for switch expansion, though. The 1Gb management port is nice to have tucked away (if that is the intended use case) and 2.5Gb and SFP+ WAN ports. Are the WAN ports tied together or can you create a primary and backup connection? I wish it also had a track to go to the top of the case, too.
I like the tool-less design, but wish there was a way to secure it with a padlock or security screw.
Hey great video! Was waiting for the dream wall review for a while now. Looks like it's targeting new homes and families that don't like to have a network rack installed in a closet. Looks neat on a wall if the cable management is done right! My only gripe is that it doesn't accommodate an HDD (2TB to 8TB for NVR applications) and that the network ports are on the top which looks a bit off. Maybe having them on the sides or at the bottom would make more sense!
This thing is supposed to replace a wall mounted network rack, and in such installs the incoming network cables usually come in either through the wall or from the ceiling. The ports being on the top makes the most sense.
Thanks for this video! I'm very eagerly waiting for that Unifi setup video for 2023 as I just got a UDR for my home setup +other devices.
In this video you mentioned the setup will be double NATted, is there any detriment to this? I will have to be in the same situation. Thanks for your reply!
Great review and install! :) But Where the heck is the Dream Wall Pro that was teased about a year ago along side of the Dream Wall during EA? That model has 2 HDD bays for Protect and moves the PSUs into a separate cabled module.
I really don't understand why they bothered to add Protect with only an SD card slot for drive space, it's pointless in most applications. Without the two 3.5" drive bays that the Dream Wall Pro claimed to have I have zero interest in this product.
Hey. Nice video. Is the WiFi range as good as the u6-pro? 1500 sqft? And in which direction does it go since it’s mounted to a wall? Is it 360 or more of 180 opposite the wall that it’s mounted on?
Thx for great vids
It would be good if you could do some performance tests.
I, in particular would like to see how well the 3.5Gb inter-vlan routing claim holds up.
When I first saw the Dreamwall, I was so excited about its form factor. Then I really looked at it. There are several shortcomings when I dove into it now that we’re in 2024. 1st, as everyone has mentioned why didn’t they include a 3.5 drive bay for longer term video storage? 2nd, with WiFi 7 released, they need a few ports to support 2.5Gb. 3rd, their power budget for one power supply makes it needing a 600w power supply. (The 3.5in drive pushes it past the current power supply) 4th, if these are targeting small offices and new home builds they need to make a mount that can take advantage of a structured media center to have the dream wall become the door to the panel. 5th, swap the access point to WiFi 7.
I check daily on their website to see if they have a pro, se or enterprise version released . Hopefully they figure it out soon.
Lovely property, my friend.
Thank you for this video. You are living in beautiful country. :) Maybe you could upload your "driving" videos to customers too. These are quite popular.
Ontario Canada. And we thank you
I'm strongly leaning towards putting one in, along with 4 cameras and 3 AP's (full reno and walls are open). Could this be installed on the main floor in plain sight? My biggest issue is what if I eventually move away from Unifi and now my patch panel is in the living room. If it were to be put in a private closet on the main floor would it overheat? And can you fit the keystone terminations inside the Dream Wall itself and patch with 0.1 meter cables? Appreciate the detailed video!
I wonder if the camera limit might be due to the SD card slot having a low write speed, UHS-II support might have helped but then you don't get much storage.
Thanks for the video... For the G4 instants that you were using before the switch, how were you powering them?
There were power receptacles near the soffit that they were plugged into
I ended up going with a UDM-pro for a new client house build EXPLICITLY because of the no hard drive issue. The UDW should 100% have a hard drive slot (even if it's just an SSD sled at worst).
Thanks for the video. In Europe the tech rooms are not that big. An unvr and a dreamwall then take up a lot of space. You want to be done with one device and HDD would be a godsend. sd card nice for pictures but not for recordings. I think the dreamwall is a good product but definitely falls short on HDD. I hope the pro variant follows soon!
Your folks are out past Barrie eh? Yea I gotta do same. Long haul drive to support the fam jam.
Yup about two hours from where I live
They look really nice I was thinking port 18 being next to the wan ports is the for the ubiquity fail over device but is that port Poe or not
I think this would be great for a small office with 5-15 people working with 1-2 doors. But the price is way too much for what you get. A Dream Machine Pro, 16 Port POE Switch, and a U6Pro would be $300-400 less and offer a much better path for long-term use. The missing hard drive and price over $700 make it DOA.
dream machine pro is 380$ 16 port poe switch is $300 access point is $150 not to mention I assume you need some form of NVR $300 and storage $100 + and the backup power supply included call its 100$ to be cheap . You are also paying for form factor and an "all in one" solution. $1300+ start price for the same base line functionality. For a small home or home office that isnt expected to grow in size or scope much this makes a good pick.
Could you not expand the internal ssd for protect? Or is the protect limited to the microSD slot?
The UDM se has the 128gb drive for protect and it would appear to be upgradable to a larger drive.
One would think the UDW would be similar but never know.
Do you know if there is a resource calculator for the Wall anywhere? Looking at the current resource calculator, it has the UDR, UDM and UDMP but no Wall :(
Strange form factor, It's putting a lot of eggs in one basket.. Thanks for the review!
6:15 the dreaded Bell Gigahub, Bell's attempt to force you to use their modem as a your router no matter what. Does it still have the "bug" where wifi is turned on after a power cycle even if you manually disabled it?
any benefits to the AP Mesh Dual-Band Antenna?
Looks like the 2 PS (battery?) ports are both multi use in the newest iteration of the DreamWall. could also contain a hard drive for additional camera storage
For that price I would expect it to be able to handle the same amount of cameras as the UDM Pro.
What is the use case for the secondary PSU anyway, sounds really overkill for this application.
Any updates on the dream wall?? I just moved in my house and are thinking og getting dream wall and the doorbell and 4-8 cameraes.. do you still recomend unvr??
I'm thinking about upgrading my entire home network to Ubiquiti as we will have 2Gbp symmetric fiber available. My goal is to have at least 2.5gbps to the my home office since the workstations will take advantage of it. I looked at the dreamwall but I am thinking is:
(1) UDM-Pro
(1) 24-port 2.5gbps Enterprise Switch (PoE)
(1) SPF 10gbps DAC cable to connect the two
(2) Wifi 6 AP's
(1) Unifi Door Bell Pro
Now it's just a matter of convincing my wife to let me run CAT 6 through out the entire house.
Is the power cord long enough to run down and around?
Hello, I am planning to have 4 internet providers, I would like to know how I can combine all of them into one. I intend to have a dream machine special edition. How can I do that?
Man this would go so nicely into my closet. But I already have a dream machine se 😂
I like my UDM Pro and switch. I would pass on this one piece unit. Thanks for your videos, they are my go to place when I have issues.
If this was priced at 699.99, I'd be all over it in some of the smaller deployments. The integrated AP makes it easier to upgrade from the ISP's "modem/router" rather than buying a UDMP/SE with a separate AP.
Just curious how come you didn’t put the bell modem into bridge mode? Great video by the way!
They call it dmz or advanced dmz now. In the modem ui
No video of any hummingbirds? Bummer! But the network install is great as always!
I do appreciate your videos because the UI docs are limited in scope. What do you charge for consulting remotely? I have a lot of Ubiquiti equipment deployed and every so often I need a little help doing something I havent done and I do not experiment with my clients. I would like to have a pro to call if ever needed for configuring something I havent done before
I charge $200 an hour Canadian
i think this is a good product for large residential homes. shame no battery backup and hard drive. however the problem is it the initial upfront cost is way too high.
Cannot believe with the size of that thing the only option is SD card storage. They could have made the spare PSU port dual purpose as its a propriety unit. Either house an HDD or a second PSU which ever you want. There should also be a USB port for external drive support if an internal support is not available. Why would you spend nearly 2.5 times the price for this, its hard to justify.
Very cool. Can’t believe they couldn’t find space for some HDD bays in there though. A single SD card slot seem like an afterthought.
or at least a USB port for external storage
Were the fans on the Dreamwall noticeable?
Is it possible to expand the storage with external 3.5 drives or a network share?
It is not
@@MactelecomNetworks I’d change the 2nd psu space for a 3.5” drive slot. But it is what it is. Terrible choice. Thanks man.
What is the point of a second PSU with one power cable anyway. I agree the second USB bay should be a 3.5" hard drive bay.
hope they release the dream wall pro, sucks the EA is gone so we don't have any idea about upcoming releases
Ya the pro dream wall looked awesome
Agreed man this is a hard pill to swallow, I see what people are saying 2 PSU's is a waste should have added a HDD to the other one, but what happened to the dreamwall pro, that one shows HDDS, I was looking for this to run my network all of it but waiting to see if the pro will ever be released. I like the on the wall setup since im looking for the smallest powerful nt setup i got a DM that's running fine but I got 2 cameras that im adding along with my AP's. the SD card looks like a gimmick was that suppose to act like a hdd for the cameras? hahaha that's funny coming in at 1000 usd. I dont have room for a DMSE rack edition the DW looks very organized when it comes to cabling. if i get this is it a good idea to get a cloudkey to keep it small?
Beautiful country
The biggest issue I have with this model is the form factor, it doesn't seem to make any sense. I'd rather see this in a rackmount form factor. Definitly needs to support a 2nd PSU and HDD(s).
Oh, and sadly, Unifi does not have a phone number for customer support.. so when you have everything plugged in, and are up on ladder... no way to contact them to say, "I am having this problem or that"
This is such a bizarre product. The form factor and WiFi seems to suggest putting it in a visible, central location of a home or small office. But who would do that with multiple cables feeding into the top of it. It belongs in a closet but isn’t rackable. It’s also more expensive than a UDM Pro + UNVR.
My experience with dream wall... nothing older in your smart home will connect. I can't connect Ecobee, Nest, Hue Lights, Ring stuff... nor an older Echo Dot.
Nice video… but no I don’t agree this has any space for home users. This was UI trying to create an alternative to rack mounted stuff but in the end you need rack mounted stuff as you just mentioned the UNVR so… not for me.
Great Video, thanks! The "Dream Wall" makes no sense though - too expensive, no HDD/SSD mount, and the little Display is too small - I bet you won't look at it for months
thanks for this. waste of money, limited storage for video recording is a major issue for me, with the the size of this thing i would expect 1 or 2 hd.
Good product, but you better have another one available in your Closet if there is a failure 😂
Ya it always good to have a cold spare. This one would be an expensive cold spare lol
10Gb+ 2.5 GB in,, switch with POE+ and POE++, Wifi 6, dual power slots... only the form factor is not fully appropriate to home users.
Gigabyte not gigabit,1 byte = 8 bit. But drive space measured in bytes and network speed measured in bits.
I'm waiting for gen 2. The gigabit switch makes no sense.
Can’t it do 2.5gb?
One gb ports on the dream wall. Has a 2.5gb and 10 wan port
@@MactelecomNetworks I do like the fast wan ports, but for multiple hardwired workstations/server, having 2.5gb ports (maybe the non-poe ones) would be a future-proofing godsend.
This is exactly what I was thinking when I read the spec sheet for this. "This is the perfect home solution! Oh, why can't you install a 3.5 inch hard drive?! Absolutely worthless. Now you need a second device."
Tempting !!!
If the cables were on the bottom, I'd buy a dream wall but yeah not on the bottom lol
Why is the Android phone drawing power? @ 10:14
Why are they so expensive in the US? I paid 980€ on the ubiquity store here in Germany.
Well mines Canadian and our dollar is weaker thats the only reason I can think
@@MactelecomNetworks ahh, that explains it.
Is the WiFi AP modular? When UniFi adopts WiFi 7, or other future technologies, will it be upgradable?
It will not be upgradable
American construction - my house is made of reinforced concrete.🤣
If they made this with 2.5Gbe ports I would get it.
insanity it doesn't have a hdd bay, surely they've got something else planned otherwise they've really dropped the ball on this one.
I can't believe ubiquity puts a micro SD card slot for camera storage, just like the UDR, so dumb. I own the UDR BTW
Shame they let the DreamWall Pro die, that looked like an excellent device
1.3k device i can buy udm se and multiple access points and a switch, so i dont find it very good.
The dream wall looks nice but is much too expensive
Who long for dream wall pro ?
$1300 for a device that can only handle a few cameras! Ubiquiti really dropped the ball on this one!
7 days later and the price has dropped 300 bucks?
🤷♂️ all depends where you live
Can’t believe you hid the dream wall…
Wasn’t my home and it’s where my parents wanted it 🤷♂️
The big problem is if you want to run access points all the eth ports are 1gbe not 2.5 or 10. this is what makes this box a ripoff
We need a Unifi dream without nvr cause we are already buying unvr so unifi need to add another product to their portfolio
Gen 2 should just have a hard drive bay. Or an ssd bay. Or at least dual card slots.
The fact that this device doesn’t support 2.5gb ports means it has no future proofing. No real ability to make use of U7 APs
Id say your reviews are missleading. Your reviews arnt reviews. They are just mostly demos of the product you get for free from Unifi.
Its the same with all your "reviews".
The majority of the products you see on my channel I buy. Do I think this device is perfect no. Is the use case for it yes, of course I'm going to demo it. I put in a ton of Ubiquiti gear each year and am very happy with it.
If you dislike my videos you don't need to watch them :)
@@MactelecomNetworks I just dont like that you call them reviews when they arnt. Product demo yes. And they are pretty nice product demos. You dont need to be a dick when I give you feedback.
@@MactelecomNetworks This is not review, a router review when you didn't test any routing capabilities. Good ad by the way
And still not multiple vlans on the wan interface.. how shamefull after all these years,
Unifi nvr
I'm just going to say it - this thing is dumb in every aspect. What use case does this serve that their other products dont? I feel like this is just UI tinkering with an idea and somehow sold it to the marketing team for a GA push. You can get a 3U horizontal wall rack UDM-Pro SE, 24 port switch, and patch panel for the same price that will take up less space. I just dont get it.. I guess the only thing this offers compared to that setup is a built in AP, but that is no big deal, especially at the price point. What UI should do is make a UDM-Pro SEv2 and move the hard drive caddy to the back and put a built in 16 or 24 port poe switch on the front, there's PLENTY of room in that chassis as is
The driving montage was just a complete waste of time.
Skip it’s there’s time stamps for a reason
@@MactelecomNetworksi enjoyed it