Fake proof silver eagle purchased from China.

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  • @offerosky
    @offerosky Před 4 lety +34

    It is a curious crappy alloy not found on the periodic table, only found in China...called Chinesium!

  • @SilverHeist
    @SilverHeist Před 4 lety +55

    Number two failed the rotation test. 2:25

  • @mistercomple7241
    @mistercomple7241 Před 4 lety +65

    A little surprised you didn't mention the obv/rev orientation is wrong. The fake uses medal alignment and not coin alignment. Granted, some fakes will have the correct orientation so this is not a fool proof check (albeit an obvious one if wrong).
    Also, be careful using calipers in that fashion as you could easily get a false negative (or positive). You want the prongs of the calipers to be on the same plane as the coin and not perpendicular to it.

    • @JWsCoinsandHobbies
      @JWsCoinsandHobbies Před 4 lety +4

      Shhhhhhhh, he didn't notice! hahahah

    • @papagiorgio5894
      @papagiorgio5894 Před 4 lety +5

      @@JWsCoinsandHobbies I noticed that right away and I was going to comment but I see someone did already. Speg, I'm surprised you missed that.

    • @JWsCoinsandHobbies
      @JWsCoinsandHobbies Před 4 lety +6

      I don't truly believe he missed it. He's too good for that. I just think he's running a social experiment to see how many people will point it out.

    • @papagiorgio5894
      @papagiorgio5894 Před 4 lety +1

      @@JWsCoinsandHobbies Probably, but it's always fun to rib him about it. Nothing says lov'in like abuse from your own subscriber posse.

    • @formulafish1536
      @formulafish1536 Před 4 lety +3

      If it was Australian it would work, as our coins are flipped like that, rather than upside down obverse to reverse

  • @jeffreybutts1916
    @jeffreybutts1916 Před 4 lety +25

    I think it’s #2! And why does China get away with this? Their dishonesty has gone too far

    • @mikesloothaak679
      @mikesloothaak679 Před 4 lety

      I have an aged mother, and she is constantly under threat by domestic scam artists of all sorts, the US phone companies know who they are, and sometimes even the local cops, but for some reason or other nothing is ever done. Corruption and rip-offs are a world-wide problem, but it isn't "China" that is being dishonest, just some criminals in China.

    • @ngantnier
      @ngantnier Před 3 lety +1

      @@mikesloothaak679 Sure, but it is China in that it is sanctioned by the Chinese government. Not the Chinese people, but their "communist" totalitarian regime.
      Tyrants shall fall, Sic semper tyrannis.

    • @sparcx86channel42
      @sparcx86channel42 Před 3 lety

      they say its replicas...

    • @Cougelly1999
      @Cougelly1999 Před 2 lety

      I think it is either one or two, so that means it will be number three

    • @cliffordrandell735
      @cliffordrandell735 Před 2 lety

      We are being sold down the river to China by the Dems and the RINOs :(

  • @chipper6323
    @chipper6323 Před 4 lety +6

    I bought one of these from China and when I received it, it was the size of a half dollar. I appealed to E-Bay
    and they refunded my money. God bless E-Bay.

  • @meteoman7958
    @meteoman7958 Před 4 lety +17

    Two points Speg, you didn't mention the medal orientation and when you used the calipers to measure the diameter, you should keep the calipers in the plane of the coin to catch the full width.

  • @chrisfantasm3542
    @chrisfantasm3542 Před 4 lety +25

    first hint : from China

  • @mlj1111
    @mlj1111 Před 4 lety +9

    "Just the tip" That's what she said.

  • @silvertaniwha1314
    @silvertaniwha1314 Před 4 lety +1

    Fantastic video Speg. Lol that magnet was messing with your mic.
    Thank you for sharing

  • @4ninesfinesilver315
    @4ninesfinesilver315 Před 4 lety +21

    When your face-to-face with the coins it’s fairly obvious but when you’re buying online it is extremely difficult until after you have received it by then it’s too late thanks for the video👍

    • @darthsilversith667
      @darthsilversith667 Před 4 lety +4

      4nines Fine Often in situations like that.. they will take pictures of legit ones and then when people buy them, they mail the fakes.

    • @dijidal
      @dijidal Před 4 lety

      Unless these fools used images of real Silver Eagles you could zoom in and see with a good eye or a real one to match it up with.

    • @dijidal
      @dijidal Před 4 lety

      @@darthsilversith667 Never-go by the photo!

    • @darthsilversith667
      @darthsilversith667 Před 4 lety

      mm ix I know.. I don’t buy online anyway. Not on sites like EBay anyway. If I have to resort to buying online, then I will buy from a large, reputable dealer.

    • @moekayse683
      @moekayse683 Před 3 lety

      That's how scammers get you, you need silver bad, and you need it cheaper, never trust eBay, or pictures, trust the authorized dealers only who receive your coins directly from the mint.

  • @nephisilver3051
    @nephisilver3051 Před 4 lety +17

    I wouldn't buy anything from China that minted in America that would be ridiculous

    • @oldschoolrr6077
      @oldschoolrr6077 Před 4 lety +4

      Completely agree with you. And the amount of fakes coming from Communist China are increasing. No collector, stacker or dealer should have anything to do with buying from there, for that matter.

    • @jimritzheimer7465
      @jimritzheimer7465 Před 4 lety

      Lord Grime I agree, they need to pay for what they have done

  • @oregonstacker2878
    @oregonstacker2878 Před 4 lety +1

    This is what I like with my LCS shops and most pawn shops here in Oregon they test them! You can buy peace of mind.

  • @NicholasKon9
    @NicholasKon9 Před 4 lety +16

    fastest way to test is to get a magnet and a ping test.

    • @sarahnewell3827
      @sarahnewell3827 Před 4 lety

      you dont ping proof coins :D

    • @NicholasKon9
      @NicholasKon9 Před 4 lety

      @@sarahnewell3827 if it is not numismatics that is ok to ping.

  • @silversax5697
    @silversax5697 Před 4 lety

    Thanks to you and Mark, we all are a little wiser

  • @allanrscott
    @allanrscott Před 4 lety

    Love your videos! So informative. Thanks bud!

  • @Silber47
    @Silber47 Před 4 lety +2

    Only from the eye 2 is visible...also the flipping (orientation) of the coin was very revealing! 😅😅😅
    ⭐⭐⭐
    Love the 'cutting'!!

  • @silversteeler2851
    @silversteeler2851 Před 4 lety

    2. Now going to watch the rest. I'm back...The diameter seemed smaller to me as soon as I saw it. Sort of impressed myself that i saw it so fast. Great video buddy. Thanks.

  • @chesterjohnson8290
    @chesterjohnson8290 Před 4 lety +1

    Good video Speg! I noticed the one in the middle looked a little “wavy” right away, and the surface looked plated. I bet if you rub your finger over the plated one & a real one they’ll feel different too, I notice that with karat gold jewelry vs. plated jewelry all the time. 👍👍👍

  • @vinhennessy3885
    @vinhennessy3885 Před rokem

    Thanks Speg for this information.

  • @rayk126
    @rayk126 Před 4 lety +10

    My dad bought counterfeit Chinese silver twice on Ebay. He has learned is lesson not to buy Chinese silver again. I heard that there are companies in China licensed by the government to produce Counterfeit American Silver coins.

    • @locostacks8243
      @locostacks8243 Před 4 lety +1

      Ray K he should also learn not to buy from eBay

    • @igibon8
      @igibon8 Před 3 lety

      Fake coins are from all over the world, right now the majority of fake coins are from Ebay’s venues. So I think EBay should take part of the blame, and not buying silver or gold merchandise from China if I were you.

  • @williamsmith8333
    @williamsmith8333 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you Speg and to Mark who willingly gave up his coin to educate others! But be aware that some people/dealers will be clever and buy coins from non-American counties then repack them in boxes/plastic and say they are legit.

  • @7up835
    @7up835 Před 4 lety +1

    I like your intro in the first minute it was excellent. I'd like to see the Clippers to the fake silver on display.👍

  • @ronaldwells1805
    @ronaldwells1805 Před 4 lety

    Good job I like how you zoomed in on the camera and show the difference good job thanks

    • @ronaldwells1805
      @ronaldwells1805 Před 4 lety

      What size is that big magnet you have and where did you buy it

  • @MurrayHerts
    @MurrayHerts Před 4 lety

    I appreciate that your nails are short and clean

  • @senya7196
    @senya7196 Před 4 lety +1

    Beautiful coins. Great investment! Thanks for the review!

  • @christofour217
    @christofour217 Před 4 lety +7

    If you look at the width the fake one will have a wider width.

  • @cerealaugher
    @cerealaugher Před 4 lety +1

    2:26 I already knew it was #2 before you flipped the coin, but when you flipped the coin, it just confirmed it for me.

  • @cupidfox9997
    @cupidfox9997 Před 3 lety

    For me I was really lucky to find a silver dollar coin at work. And the customer used it at face value, and I asked my boss if I can trade it with my dollar and he said yes. And seeing your video it confirms that it's real, thank you!

  • @battleshipnewjerseysailor4738

    For me, it was easy to spot due to the way the Chrome plating was reflecting off the "rays"

  • @tomfeldbruegge8744
    @tomfeldbruegge8744 Před 4 lety

    From the start I thought #2 was fake. The diameter looked small. Great video thanks!

  • @starbuckJeffNcoins
    @starbuckJeffNcoins Před 4 lety

    Number 2 cause of the way it flipped! Thanks for the info!

  • @connormonnery6998
    @connormonnery6998 Před 4 lety

    Great video!! Thanks for teaching us awareness of a fake. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽😀

  • @marley20ful
    @marley20ful Před 4 lety

    Speg's, Nice video my friend. Good PSA. Hope you are well. Thanks for the Info! Cheers.

  • @lwilton
    @lwilton Před 4 lety

    It would sure be interesting to know what alloy or amalgamation that coin was made of. The weight was very close to that of silver, but all of the magnetic elements are notably less dense than silver. In the light the cut looked copper-colored, but maybe that was just some sort of lighting artifact in the video, since nickle, cobalt, and iron are all somewhat silverish in color.

  • @rosebud3971
    @rosebud3971 Před 4 lety

    Very instructive, thanks! If you are an avid ASE collector, carry a real one in your pocket for comparison.

  • @blitheringrando1410
    @blitheringrando1410 Před 11 měsíci

    Great video, very educational, there's just one thing I noticed. When measuring with the calipers you should be aligning them with the coin longways, that way you know youre touching the furthest distance across. Of course you knew it was off before that anyway so it's of little importance.

  • @kking5652
    @kking5652 Před 4 lety

    #2, as soon as you said one was fake. Thank you for this.

  • @Ronb-en6bi
    @Ronb-en6bi Před 3 lety

    i knew the middle one was fake because of the lettering and the thickness and style of font it is... very easy to spot to any real collector

  • @JWsCoinsandHobbies
    @JWsCoinsandHobbies Před 4 lety

    Your talents with a magnet are unmatched good sir. :)

  • @nickoliver3223
    @nickoliver3223 Před 4 lety

    1. It was smaller
    2 it had a weird line down the right side of the back
    3. When you flipped it around it was inverted.

  • @jadenephrite
    @jadenephrite Před 4 lety +2

    You should have also demonstrated the ping ringing sound test as you did on your Fake Morgan Silver Dollar from a flea market video.

    • @Spegtacular
      @Spegtacular  Před 4 lety

      There's several times I could do but there's no need to do every single test in every single video. That would get a little repetitive wouldn't it? When one or two of these tests are such a "nail in the coffee", we can generally stop there. After all, this is not a "how many tests can you do to test silver" video.

  • @ferebeefamily
    @ferebeefamily Před 4 lety

    Maybe drill a small hole through the fakes to permanently mark them yet saving them for our training? Good video. Thank you.

  • @mikebarrett8572
    @mikebarrett8572 Před 4 lety

    Dead give away for me was the letter U in United. The mint changed the design of the U a few years back.

  • @mrthomaslaux1
    @mrthomaslaux1 Před 4 lety

    Great material!

  • @dciimho2798
    @dciimho2798 Před 4 lety

    The minute you flipped the center coin and it had a medallion die orientation it was a no brainer.

  • @themacz1671
    @themacz1671 Před 4 lety

    👋🏼👋🏼 thank you for sharing speg

  • @ekummel
    @ekummel Před 4 lety

    The give-away for me was that the obverse wasn't a flip over. American coins the back is upside down to the front.

  • @SilverRipples.
    @SilverRipples. Před 4 lety +2

    Speg #2 is as Real as any of the Kardashians....

  • @christopherjordan9398
    @christopherjordan9398 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the video. This helped me verify 11 fake Eagles.

    • @Spegtacular
      @Spegtacular  Před 3 lety

      Holy smokes 11? Where’d they come from?

  • @Silverholic
    @Silverholic Před 4 lety

    I am getting really tempted to buy a sigma tester everytime I see you use it. If it wasn't so expensive I would already have one ;)

  • @justinakajc
    @justinakajc Před 3 lety

    My dog won’t stop barking after that door bell 🤣

    • @Spegtacular
      @Spegtacular  Před 3 lety

      Sorry.. but I’m not really ;)

    • @justinakajc
      @justinakajc Před 3 lety

      @@Spegtacular dont worry I replayed it about 5 times to bother her 😛

  • @drakesavory2019
    @drakesavory2019 Před 4 lety

    Hmmmm ... Canton using crosshatching and the reverse upside down. Could it possible be #2?

  • @chadwolfeschledgelsteinhau9697

    Number 2! The flip, gave it away

  • @mikesloothaak679
    @mikesloothaak679 Před 4 lety

    If I may: when you want to cut a notch into a coin like you do, I suggest you shove the coin as deep as you can into the cutter's jaws. You get much better leverage that way. Such would be better both for the tool and your hand, and probably reduce the chance of the coin going flying as well.

  • @Mike215PA
    @Mike215PA Před 4 lety

    Great video... EXPOSE THE SCAMMERS!!!

  • @DP-yr8vb
    @DP-yr8vb Před 4 lety +2

    The centre one.... I got one from America to.. my friend bought it from Amazon :( such a bummer

  • @erwincornel2650
    @erwincornel2650 Před 4 lety

    I have the same fake coin. Keeping it for educational purposes. I was surprised on how great it look after I took a picture of it.

  • @andrewfannin2795
    @andrewfannin2795 Před 3 lety

    Thank you so much. I just found out that a 2020 westpoint silver eagle is a fake thanks to you video.

  • @gunter1872000
    @gunter1872000 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the video. You linked the verifier. Could you recommend where at get the magnet? Google search didn't look promising. Again thanks great video.

    • @Spegtacular
      @Spegtacular  Před 4 lety

      I got it on EBay years ago

    • @gunter1872000
      @gunter1872000 Před 4 lety

      @@Spegtacular Thank you. Hard out here buying person to person.

  • @melvinthompson4323
    @melvinthompson4323 Před 4 lety

    Very cool video and content thanks for posting!👍🏼😎❤️

  • @paul8158
    @paul8158 Před 4 lety

    One can do the "soundcheck" with silvercoins. Put it on a fingertip and hit it slightly with another coin. If it does a nice vibrating "pling" sound it is silver, if it does a kind of short "smack"-sound, than it's most likely fake. Silver, and gold also, "ring" like only eternal money can do!

  • @maplestacker3065
    @maplestacker3065 Před 4 lety

    I think it 2......looks smaller and a different design for the walker.......gonna wait till the end to find out

  • @ehrenkrause9861
    @ehrenkrause9861 Před 4 lety

    #2 looks like steel. I can see the color tone. And its considerably smaller

  • @davidcassidy5868
    @davidcassidy5868 Před 4 lety

    one other thing not pointed out was how noticeably further away the writing on the reverse was from the edge of the fake Eagle; most noticeable w/ the naked eye @ the "1oz FINE SILVER" area.
    Much easier to see IF You have a US Mint purchased Eagle to compare it to.

  • @israeldiaz4431
    @israeldiaz4431 Před 4 lety

    Thank you for your video, verry useful!

  • @andreg3912
    @andreg3912 Před 4 lety

    If you see them side by side you see immediately that the diameter of the 2nd "coin" is smaller. If you see it online it's possible so see the differences but it's much harder if you have a good fake.

  • @Godisknockingx
    @Godisknockingx Před 4 lety

    Wow! It's hard to tell.
    My guess is the 3rd one.

  • @douglasw9163
    @douglasw9163 Před 4 lety

    I stopped collecting the proof silver eagle in 2006 so I'm not as familiar with them any more. That was alot of good points to check for fake coins, and thanks for putting them out there, good video. I don't know if I forgot this or never knew it but my question is on the two good coins. How come #1 is frosted in the back ground while #3 has a mirrored back ground? Thanks

  • @provocanyon8564
    @provocanyon8564 Před 4 lety

    I highly recommend the Sigma Metalytics precious metals verifier. I almost bought a 20g Gold bar from the Perth Mint in 'original' packaging but when I tried to verify it the Sigma determined that it was an undetermined metal plated with 24k gold. I did an internet search on these bars and found numerous high-quality Chinese fakes available. The seller claimed he had purchased it from APMEX and it was guaranteed by them. I did purchase a PAMP 1oz gold bar from this seller that passed the Sigma verification.

  • @michaelgillard3499
    @michaelgillard3499 Před 3 lety

    "Big thank you for the tips,

  • @ryanmarvin3676
    @ryanmarvin3676 Před 4 lety

    Is it the one in the middle the mint marked looked different then the rest of them?

  • @josecolon3265
    @josecolon3265 Před 2 lety

    Hi there what's the value of a 1893 s Morgan silver dollar

  • @tonizumpano6301
    @tonizumpano6301 Před 4 lety

    Fun video! Thanks!

  • @JW52654
    @JW52654 Před 3 lety

    I knew right away it was the one in the middle, number 2. when you flipped it from the bottom the other side was not upright.

  • @rogersowers9837
    @rogersowers9837 Před 4 lety

    My guess is number two because when you flipped them over....the reverse side of Number two was the only one not still in the correct position......you had to turn it around.

  • @rickyhall7514
    @rickyhall7514 Před 4 lety +1

    😂 I thought it was #1, until you flipped over #2.

  • @sickofthissh
    @sickofthissh Před 4 lety

    Howdy SpegTacular. I ordered two 2 oz Scottsdale Sunday and they are out for shipment today. APMEX won't be out until 7/19/2020. I am a patient man.

    • @Spegtacular
      @Spegtacular  Před 4 lety

      It’s a virtue :) people had rumored that Scottsdale was going out of business, stealing money, etc. in truth, they were just extremely busy.

  • @conradpons9238
    @conradpons9238 Před 4 lety

    What type of verifier do you have there, and how much do they go for.

    • @Spegtacular
      @Spegtacular  Před 4 lety

      Check the link in the videos description for the details on the verifier.

  • @markb.7642
    @markb.7642 Před 4 lety

    It would be interesting to actually find out what metal it was made from, obviously it was highly attracted to the magnet.

  • @kcr68xx
    @kcr68xx Před 4 lety

    The one on the left.. The "U" on the back is the pre 2008 letter "U"

  • @MrThe1234guy
    @MrThe1234guy Před 4 lety

    I haven't really seen in modern bullion coin that looked real and I could not tell the difference. What scares me is when they tried to fake old numismatic coins, those can be tricky.

  • @AJustmenow
    @AJustmenow Před 4 lety

    I called two, probably because I have very good eyesight, I also collect silver coins.

  • @kienhwengtai8113
    @kienhwengtai8113 Před 3 lety

    So that's where all the Australian iron goes!

  • @jguerrero7064
    @jguerrero7064 Před 4 lety

    Where Could I get a magnet like that? Thanks...

  • @jackiebridges6217
    @jackiebridges6217 Před 4 lety

    I was cracking up watching you messing with fake silver OMG thanks for sharing went through my stack all real.wow terrible how many fakes..

  • @Ontario100
    @Ontario100 Před 4 lety +1

    Destroy Fakes! Thanks!! 👍😃

  • @ryucords
    @ryucords Před 4 lety

    I wanna see those other 2 being caliper and confirm the thickness.

  • @Mr.QuacktasticVR
    @Mr.QuacktasticVR Před 4 lety +1

    I have never found a magnetic coin. . . Welcome to china boy😂🤣😂 another good video Speg!

  • @911VideoNews
    @911VideoNews Před 4 lety +5

    The color on #1 seems really off

    • @idunnoalaska5071
      @idunnoalaska5071 Před 3 lety +1

      I think it’s an enhanced proof with added sparkle.

    • @oahuhawaii2141
      @oahuhawaii2141 Před 3 lety

      That's a reverse proof coin. It looks real.
      The details on the second coin is off. Plus, he flipped the coin along the x-axis and the tails (reverse side) is upside down. That's a dead giveaway for a fake: US coins flip in the horizontal axis; US medals and foreign coins (such as UK) flip in the vertical axis.
      The details of the third coin matches the first, so it is authentic, like the first.

  • @dmailm4501
    @dmailm4501 Před 2 lety

    Hey Speg,
    I just bought a silver generic ounce buffalo from my local gold chain store here in Ohio. I noticed after I got it home that it doesn't ring like my Morgan's do. It does out fast. I took it to another store of the same chain, and they stuck it in their analyzer for me. He said it's 3 9's and the correct weight but why doesn't it ring??

    • @Spegtacular
      @Spegtacular  Před 2 lety +1

      .999 doesn’t sound like 90% or .925.
      Use the app on your phone “precious coin tester” along with the pinging method. You’ll need to put the parameters in the app that go along with the piece you’re testing

    • @dmailm4501
      @dmailm4501 Před 2 lety

      @@Spegtacular the precious coin tester gave it 3 stars which is great. Thanks for the advise Speg!

  • @coinjeremy8864
    @coinjeremy8864 Před 4 lety

    Number two it's small. When you flipped it also.

  • @gmc9753
    @gmc9753 Před 4 lety

    You should get silver testing solution so we can see if it's even silver plated.

  • @dataexpunged2827
    @dataexpunged2827 Před 4 lety +1

    You can get really good deals on eBay, but NEVER buy premium silver or gold products off there.

    • @igibon8
      @igibon8 Před 3 lety

      I think some reputable US companies selling gold and silver coins also have shops set up on EBay. Just need to go to buy those coins from reputable sellers.

  • @jaredwhite489
    @jaredwhite489 Před rokem

    My 2010 early release West Point mint NGC verified has pretty pronounce lines in the flag.

  • @my3dviews
    @my3dviews Před 4 lety

    The middle coin has both sides the same way, not flipped upside down like the real ones.

  • @scottparis6355
    @scottparis6355 Před 4 lety

    Why are the backgrounds on the two good ones different; one polished, one "frosted?"

    • @Spegtacular
      @Spegtacular  Před 4 lety

      One is a proof and one is a reverse proof

  • @jamesleadabrand7986
    @jamesleadabrand7986 Před 4 lety

    I guessed no 2 before he even picked them up!

  • @fiatdestroyer9716
    @fiatdestroyer9716 Před 4 lety

    So many ways to test for fakes!🔥🔥🔥

  • @BrownStain_Silver
    @BrownStain_Silver Před 3 lety

    This video has me laughing. Either i'm becoming a coin expert (unlikely) or that is a horrible fake silver eagle.

  • @The1zaney2
    @The1zaney2 Před 4 lety

    Number 2 because I noticed that it is on the wrong way up when turned over