Platinum From Meteorite
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- čas přidán 21. 02. 2022
- In this video I destroy 200$ worth of meteorite to recover ~22 cents worth of platinum group metals.
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So now that the video has been watched by tens of thousands here are some problems identified by the community: I forgot I used the anvil with platinum in the past, I’ve since cleaned it of course but I can’t fully rule out contamination. Sometimes meteorite is plated in Platinum group metal to preserve it and make it shiny, I don’t know for sure that I didn’t end up with such a piece. Also the low yield is likely due to using the wrong acid and probably dissolved most of my values along with the iron. I guess this means I’ll just have to try it again right?
I guess you will :)
Yes please :)
its turning into precious metal recovery-ception. Love the work your doing ;>
You can make a cool kinetic toy with space glitter 🎆🎇
Honestly Cody, your metallurgy videos are my absolute favourites. The chemistry, the melting and refining, it's so interesting and satisfying to watch. Please make more when you can. :D
Man I used to binge the precious metal extraction videos back when I was younger. Watching a new one brings me so much joy. Never change Cody.
Same here bro
Theyre how i found the channel 😂
Same! I’ve got no clue what he’s talking about most of the time though! Hahaha
Ditto. Even if it was not cost-effective on a tiny scale it was really interesting to watch regardless.
Same i remember watching videos for hours when i was a little younger. Had just found his account and had so much content to catch up on.
Also want to point out how much healthier/better his quality of life looks now compared to his older videos. His video quality is much better since he can buy better cameras and it looks like hes been able to spend a little extra money taking care of himself. Its cool to see someone grow and slowly get what theyve been working hard for. And the money hasnt changed him one bit he still produces videos as he did a few years ago. Simple without fancy editing and gets all the details in a interesting way. Will always be a fan of codys videos.
I refuse to believe it's an accident that Cody uploaded a 22 minute 22 second long video on 22/02/2022, showing how to make 22 cents worth of Platinum.
I also don't think that it was a accident that her wore a Star Fleet uniform for this space filmed video :p
100% not an accident, he reuploaded it to make sure it showed the .22 lol
@THE DUDE what the fuck are you talking about jesse
lol and i read your comment at 2:22
I looked at the comments to see who agreed, not disappointed... 👍
obviously it's not qn accident
too specific to actually be an accident
proncipally with the 22 cents like, what's the chance? too specific not to be planned, the only thing that wanst planned was the 22 cents thing since he cant control it
Cody - Twosday, 22.2.22 (or 2.22.22 US) 22 cents, $200, 22:22 long video... Something makes me think this is not coincidence! Keep making the world happy and informed my man. You have certainly added joy to my life. Much love big fella
22 is bb it stands for something
With 200 grams sample
2 years ago
"but regardless of method I have acquired a sample of asteroid material" honestly sounds like something a 1950s sci-fi villain would say.
Cody could hop in a time machine and steal the lead on any of those roles, ez
It sounds like something a person who has acquired a sample of asteroid material would say.
I mean, once you have it, does it matter how you got it? Just shout loudly "it's for science" and I'm pretty sure nobody would stop him lol I hear that works every time. If not, just say "Neil sent me to get this" and walk away at a brisk pace. Lol
Pretty much the plot of a Superman movie.
Now, what could the evil scheme be here? Somehow extract enough platinum to make a profit?
It's always nice when cody uploads because it means he hasn't hurt himself doing something reckless
Scheduled uploads…
I like people with long brain. I have long amount of disl*kes btw. Why? Maybe people with short brain disl*ke because jealous of my long amount of subscr*bers. Please have long brain, dear tose
Meeting PUTIN and BIEDEN is not necessary... meeting PUTIN and Ukraine president is important....;;';;.////
"On todays episode, Im launching myself to low orbit and using bottle rockets to enter complete orbit"
Why?
"Its just easier getting platinum this way"
Like slipping on butter...
You really are a treasure Cody, smart, a great educator, curious humble and kind. Just a reminder that you are much appreciated
Happy Twosday! Thanks for coming on for a chat with John!
Go back to reddit...
A.N.N.A. is that you?
Well done! You got it out on 22/2/22 with a length of 22:22
That’s so cool tho lol
yeah, i noticed it right away, super nice 🙂
Meeting PUTIN and BIEDEN is not necessary... meeting PUTIN and Ukraine president is important....;;''..//
It's a Twosday miracle!
Cody: "Carbon monoxide makes me nervous"
Also Cody: "Let's gargle some mercury!"
🤷♂️
(Just for the record, I know how dangerous carbon monoxide is. If you're telling me that, the joke has gone over your head. At least Cody got the joke...)
Yes, maybe that tells you how much more dangerous it is.
Definitely no joke, started seeing ants and having headaches while forging, should have opened it up a bit better 😆 never making that mistake again, could have died.
toxic gases are *a lot* scarier than everything solid or liquid, especially when they are completely colour- and odorless.
Thats because CO can kill you incredibly quickly and you wouldnt even notice until its too late. Chemistry using CO is one of the highest risk activities you can do in a lab. Gargling mercury is really quite mundane in comparison
If Cody had gargled dimethylmercury you'd have a point, but he would also be dead and we wouldn't be watching this video
I loved how you described the different kind of meteorites at the beginning of the video. I remember learning some of the first iron tools/weapons were the result of using meteorites. Just imagine what people back then thought when they saw those strange shiny objects on the ground.
Cody, your videos have always been informative and interesting, but the educational quality of this video is *astounding* . You are blending theory, practice, and entertainment seamlessly!
This was great, Cody! I literally just found a meteorite and have been looking for places to verify it, and this video came up!
This was so interesting!
How sure are you its from space? Because you believe it is?
Oh no my subscriptions are mixing!
@Cadwang _ I know for sure because the sticker on the bottom says "Made in Space". Dead giveaway
@@HornetKingOfficial Maybe an astronaut on the international space station just opened up a vacuum cleaner and stuck all the dust in the bag together with a bit of superglue.... to make it in space....
@@ssn608 I wouldn't put it past those shady astronauts!
Just an idea for the mars base, ever considered doing a ‘waste water’ treatment video? An interesting idea would be the photo-fenton process. It uses Iron(II)/Iron(III) ions in the waste water to produce hydroxyl radicals that can help treat the water, the process can be sped up with the addition on hydrogen peroxide (reducing the need for iron(II) to produce hydrogen peroxide from water). If it helps I can send some journal articles on it
Water treatment is in the bill gates netflix movie. They are designing various toilets for africa.
Low pressure distillation to extract water from solids would probably be the easiest way to do it on Mars. Just need to keep it above -10F
Is it just me or is Cody looking really well lately compared to say a year or two ago. Keep it up its visible you're much more happy !
Cody, I've just been watching through your precious metals refining videos over the last couple of weeks and was thinking, "man! I really wish me would start this series back up again.. " and here we are. Resounding success or not, I really enjoy watching the process and deductive reasoning used. Thanks for this!
Yes the Platinum is nice but The Nickel and Cobalt solution at 14:31 has such a stunning blue color, kinda like a blue sapphire. It looks so cool.
It really is a stunning color, we should give it a name... say... "Cobalt Blue" 😉
It's the color of "I can't believe it's not copper sulfate"
@@6alecapristrudel Copper usually has the prettiest colors, but this gives it a run for its money.
Cody is back! I've discovered his channel with the algae video and then just binged all his old videos lol. This channel is so diverse, cool and informative all at the same time. Keep up the great work Cody!
I like that *most* of his experiments or examples are reproduceable by amateurs. Granted, there are some that no one should attempt without proper knowledge.
Have fun watching the mine series, my favorite.
@@randomhero123 having done chemistry in high school, it's really fun to see someone actually bring it to practice in a fun and exciting way. I never had the motivation or interest, but understood the basics of it. I just wish his videos were around back then lol
This is some of my favorite kinds of Cody'sLab. I look forward to Asteroid Mining Part II.
Side note: I'd love to see a follow up of the highway platinum video
cody ive loved watching you over the years and wanted to take a moment to thank you for making chemistry and metallurgy etc so much fun, thank you and keep on keeping on!
It’s Twosday 02/22/2022 at 2:22 PM and the video is 22:22 long! Well done, Sir!!
I honestly haven't watched you in a couple years. I just kinda stopped watching science videos, but every now and then i come back and see you are still uploading and doing cool shit and it warms my heart in a strange way! love you cody!
Thank you, Cody! All of your content is incredible, but this throwback, this was so needed tonight. You are and have always been the best!
Absolutely love these videos man. I know it’s not profitable, but very fun to see the outcome. To me, you’re a precious metal.
If anyone asks you how cold liquid nitrogen is, you tell them roughly the temperature of "space shade". 🤣
I love Cody's Lab. He has a unique sense of humor but definitely a great one. 👍
This is so nestalgic for me. I started off watching Cody for the mining and precious metals refining series. I really wish he would had kept going with that and eventually gotten his collection to a Kilo of gold bar and a kilo or more of silver. I know getting a kilo of platinum or other platinum group metals is nearly impossible since they are so useful and don't oxidize, but it would had been awesome to see Cody Continue his gold refining. No matter how many times I see him do it, it's always interesting. I understand it gets boring doing the same thing over and over again for an intelligent guy like Cody who has so many different interests and ideas, but I still wish he stayed with mining and precious metals to some degree, and just added to that with other videos on different subjects
awesome as always cody! double awesome because i’m learning about some of this stuff like complex molecules in chemistry class right now! thanks for making these videos they are such a huge reason why i love science
I am so happy to be watching precious metal extraction from Cody again. Thanks, dude!
Haven’t seen your videos in a couple of years Cody. You’ve come a long way man. Keep up the great work!!!
Cody’sLab has always been my favorite channel to unwind to. His creativity, and great commentary has always brought me back. Thanks for the video, man! 🤘
Cody. This is the type of shit that keeps me coming back to your videos. Keep doing what you’re doing.. it’s great. Also, I hope you’re having a great 2022 - my girlfriend and I wish you nothing but solid mental health and joy.
congrats Cody! this was an amazing video to watch, and yes my friend, you are a genius, people like you will make awesome new space discoveries possible, keep up the awesome work!
Cody, miss you man. I learned so much from your channel. Totally reminds me of Mr Wizard show from my childhood. First experiment of yours I saw was extracting precious metals from dirt that you swept up from the side of I 15. Best channel on CZcams. Thanks For sharing bub!👍
Why do you miss him? He's been here all along, so there wasn't an opportunity to miss him.
Please water your plants! Seeing them shriveling up and dying is killing me hahah. Great stuff as always. I enjoy your videos, they are very entertaining and educational.
I’ve been a long time subscriber and I have no bias on any of your genre of videos. I’m simply satisfied every time I watch a video. It has honesty change my point of view on so many things for the better and has definitely made me want to reengage science and things along that line. Thank you
Best channel on any platform out there. Thanks for the awesome, educational video!!
Did you re-weigh the material between smashing it and putting in with the HCl? Curious how much mass would have been lost in that step (small powder, little bits that might have escaped your containment system, etc).
Cody: "OH boy! Here I go extracting again!"
Oh extracting we will go!
Oh extracting we will go!
We'll catch a rock
and put it in a crock
and then we'll get some gold (and platinum, but it doesn't rhyme)
Meeting PUTIN and BIEDEN is not necessary... meeting PUTIN and Ukraine president is important....;;'';..///
Love your new camera skills man 🎉 makes it so much nicer to consume your amazing content! Keep up the amazing work!
What a great video Cody! You're the man that got me into chemistry, and these videos are why. You're an inspiration!
A few videos on making crucibles would be nice. I seen you messing with clay on Instagram and noticed the one crucible in this video looked homemade.
I am impatiently waiting on my kiln from ebay right now.
Well done on 22:22!
Yay, Cody’s back! I stumbled upon this channel by accident, and been fascinated ever since. And I love reading the conversations the chemists have in the comments😁
Thanks for the video Cody. I've always loved the precious metals recovery series.
Another question... between 7:50 and 8:10 something must have reacted with (I'm guessing) the oils from your hands that made them visible on the glass? Do we know what was produced in the reaction that caused this?
I know that cyanoacrylate can do it when heated up -- are there reactions in your crockpot essentially making super glue or is something else going on?
Considering he is using the same gloves he used to shatter the pieces, its likely just bits of metallic dust reacting on the glass.
Reasoning:
-the glass was likely wet with acid fumes (the products of the reaction), causing the dust to stick to it better than his gloves
-the reaction would continue on the glass since its a “closed” system (at least long enough to start the rxn).
Just my guess though.
Love it. 22/02/2022, 2:22PM in Germany, 22:22 min Video
Just Perfect
That is an awsome view of the process and so insightful! Cody is one of the best creators on this platform. Thank you Cody
I love how excited you get for maybe developing a method for asteroid mining. Your enthusiasm make your videos so much more engaging!
I look forward to future chemistry books talking about the "Cody Process" for economical asteroid mining!
Hey Cody, great video:) are you familiar with nickel sulfide collection? It's very similar to the process you used (fire assay lead collection), but better suited to PGEs. Also, allowing the prill to cool slowly prevents sprouting (though with high platinoids, it's hard to avoid). It's not very often I get to see the processes I do for work out in the wild, so I get all giddy and love talking about it when I do. Anyway, great video as always (I just noticed this video uploaded on 22/2/22 is 22:22 long, awesome)✌️
And he claims to have recovered 22 cents worth of worth of platinum group metals, so he's all-in on the odometer moment.
I am so happy so see you well and that enthusiastic working on your projects. Its a Joy to watch an intelleigent person living the dream off an cracy scientist. You are an inspiration for many to come!
Really cool and super interesting video Cody, cheers for the upload
Mate, really enjoyed watching like your other precious metal extraction videos thank you Cody.
Chemistry is magic and Cody is a wizard.
Dont ever let anyone tell you otherwise
Hey Cody I really hope all is going well with you! Love to see you doing your thing another great video!
Very interesting video, thanks!
I work in a mineralogical museum and I think we sell the same meteorites as you used in your refinement. Very cool to see.
Also, I applaud you to using the caliper set to the metric system :D
man ive missed the metal extraction videos. I cant tell you how much entertainment i have gotten out of this series and its great to see another. a bit of nostalgia
This reminds me of a research project I did on M type asteroids in high school! I remember reading in an article that the asteroids had "industrial grade" metals in them or something along those lines, and was never able to figure out just what that meant. I think this sheds some light on that phrase and perhaps why it was so vague.
Your magnetic sparkles are certainly from the nickel that is present. That was fun to watch something I would never be able to do to my meteorites. Great video!!!
I would guess they are iron pyrite, which is magnetic, and does not dissolve in HCL.
Nice to see you back doing some classic Cody chemistry, hope you're safe and well dude!
Its interesting how all of this information is so over my head but it grabs my veiw on the world and everything in it and wows me. If i could go back in time school would have been awesome experience to learn what you show.
In the context of living in space, rather than just sending robots there to mine out precious metals for use on Earth, the phosphorus and sulfur will probably be a lot more valuable than the platinum-group elements, given that those will be significant bottlenecks for any space colony in terms of how much total biomass it can have.
Cody needs to be picked up by a streaming service to create a TV show.
Enticing, fun, and knowledgeable.
Damn the probes, magician, I'm sending you! Found the video from the Event Horizon interview. Very cool stuff here, if you're interested in the practicality and philosophy of our current stuck-on-planet situation to our inevitable journey into the cosmos, John of the last second plug does great interviews, always talking about what we do with that great expanse that we can observe, but haven't figured out what to make of just yet.
Was getting itchy for a new upload, very happy to see one. Loved the classing intro
Giving Nilered some friendly competition again! Being precious metals, it’s a little more exciting than other reactions.
Keep in mind Nile red is a whole team of people. I’m all by myself and still competing.
It looks more like a Sreetips video than Nilered.
As far as actual asteroid mining goes, wouldn't the iron/cobalt/nickel be the more valuable material? Getting structural materials into space is expensive, so getting it from the asteroid should be quite a savings (and I use that term relatively).
Sure, but they're only valuable to organizations that can make it into space to use them. Platinum/gold/etc. are valuable to a wider range of people.
Of course, if we get too much from the asteroids, there's a good chance the market for precious metals will collapse - which will be bad for a lot of people, but open up uses for these metals that were previously too expensive to be viable.
I also wonder about the potential for "veins" of super pure metals in asteroids given that there must have been monstrous size blobs of pure elements floating around in the proto-solar system/planetoid core that got ejected and almost instantly frozen into a space rock.
@@capturedflame diamond should already be cheap as dirt, but thanks to the beers and the diamond cartel the price of the diamond is artificially inflated. Real diamonds have been mined to death, and we can now create decent size synthetic diamonds... So yeah, diamond is about as expensive as the carbon it's made from.
@@capturedflame All of these things are good things.
It's true, it makes a whole lot more sense to obtain the materials needed to build space habitats, from space itself! The only type of habitat we can realistically launch into space, apart from the spacecraft accommodation, are the inflatable tents Bigalow is developing. I don't think many prospective space settlers will want to live in a fabric structure.
Honestly, most of the things you say don't make sense to me but MAN I'm so entertained !!! Love your videos !!
I'm so glad to see a new video! One of the CZcams GOATs for sure.
Hey Cody I sent you a package a long time ago that contained old phone parts for your gold extraction. Did you ever receive it I had a cool rock in it too. It would mean a lot to me if you received it, you’ve been my role model since I was young
Don't make brother Cody feel old....
Haha yea, it’s been a while but he looks younger every video lol.
I think so. A lot of weird things have shown up in my mail over the years. lol I'll probably get to it eventually, but a lot of things have gone onto the back burner as my main one seems to have burned out.
@@theCodyReeder Well thank you for responding to me. It means allot, it makes the kid in me very happy to know you got it! You made my day.
@@theCodyReeder :(
I'm watching this as I'm holding a 1oz 99.9% pure platinum coin. Videos like this show just how much effort, time and money must be put into extracting enough metal to make a 31.1g coin.
Wierd flex but a fine one
Love it when I see some new content upload. Keep it up Cody, love the vids!
Thank you for making more videos I enjoy watching everything you do
Love seeing Cody pop up in my sub box!
cody is closely reaching a supreme form between Doofenshmirtz and Oppenheimer
You make the chemistry look so easy! Great vid as always my dude.
I'm glad Cody didn't miss the chance to make the video length 22:22 on 2/22/22 while recovering 22 cents of platinum
I remember your video where you found that meteorite! (If it's that same one), you had also found an inverter out there that you used in your mine :)
Cody, your smile in the intro was so heartwarming for me. When I saw this video I just knew it was exactly what I needed
That test for PGMs with the peroxide is awesome! Thanks for the info. Also this is the coolest metal refining video ever.
Love your videos man! Can’t wait to see how Chickenhole is coming along :) you’re doing so many fascinating things all the time, keep up the good work!
Hmmmm thinking I'd be luckier sweeping motorways than looking for space rocks. As always Cody, another fine video that leaves mainstream TV in the dirt
Where did you find that iron meteorite? I've been looking into some mineral samples from eBay but the prices are generally exorbitant because of the overlap with crystal healing bull. Meteorites unfortunately fall under that umbrella as well. I'm interested in a sample like you have(had) but I don't particularly care to pay $300 for it.
Deserts are a good place. Or any other place with open visibility and minimal humidity (to prevent long term rusting away)
Aww this is the best, coming home from work to see a upload from Cody!
Hope you’re doing good man!
Finally a very good episode! Keep doing this episode's with material extraction...they are super!
Neat, I have a couple of meteorites myself, I'd love to actually find one. My favorite one I own is the non magnetic one, I'd say non metallic, but thats probably wrong. Supposedly that one is either from a rocky planet or celestial body like the moon or Mars.
nonferrous is the word you're looking for I think
@@Nae_Ayy I mean, yeah? I guess I could have said that. That's more technical than I was attempting to be, but it is more accurate.
@@MikeeVeeI wasn't trying to correct you mate
@@Nae_Ayy thank you :) I probably should have just said that anyway. I doubt there's many if any non metallic meteorites, I'd have to look and see if any had been found outside of ferrous and non ferrous ones.
@@Nae_Ayy I guess the one I like falls under the 3rd category of meteorite, stony. I did a little looking to see what I could find.
I missed this so much, I've been rewatching the precious metal extraction series and it's really cool to see a new one so interesting!
You and nigel are the best chemistry CZcamsrs (don't tell him but I like you a lil bit more)
this deserves more views. ove you cody. keep up the good work. im loving it
Man, thank you! This was great. Love it when u do chem
When you mentioned "distilled water", it got me thinking, what minerals could you extract from tap water or even bottled spring water
How much contamination does your local tap water have. Would it be possible to yield anything from a reasonable volume of tap water ?
You would likely need thousands of liters to even get a milligram of something and at that point it would be such a large waste of resources + the cleanup would be awful
You were wise to not go down the Ni(CO)4 route! If CO makes you nervous, Ni(CO)4 should having you running! As a PhD student studying nickel and palladium, Ni(CO)4 is one of the few things I would never work with. As always, I love your videos - science is a lot harder to do when you're dead! Stay safe 😉
Good point. Being dead gets in the way of a lot of stuff!
Cody is by far the most interesting content creator I’ve ever come across. I love every single one of his videos!
IMO you have one of the most honest science channels available 🙇
Thanks for doing what you do, from your engagement ring forward (and quite a few behind that) your work has always been exceptional 🤝
Thanks for being you 🙏
Hey Cody, Got a question for you. I've been told in all my courses for H2S safety (I work in the oilfield in Alberta Canada) that if you are anywhere near the formation of it that you have less than 10 seconds after you start smelling rotten eggs before you pass out and become a victim to the gas. so I'm just wondering if its dramatized in the courses for our added safety or if it is really that dangerous? Love your vids and always look forward to the next one. Hope you're doing well.
From what I've heard/read, yes. High concentrations can pretty much drop you where you stand. It interferes with the central nervous system hard, essentially disabling your brain and plunging you into a coma. Although this probably doesn't immediately kill you, being disabled and falling to the floor where all the dense toxic gas is will basically ensure that nobody can safely get to you before you die of lack of oxygen. I assume it's possible to survive acute H2S exposure with immediate intervention of a well-equipped hospital, but the rigs up north usually dont come with a built-in ICU.
@@AbortionIsMurderAlways abort, abort 🤡
@@asm_nop Thanks for taking the time to help me out. In my courses it’s said that 100 ppm of H2S is life threatening so I was wondering if it’s really that dangerous at such a low ppm or if the danger arises from passing out in a H2S rich environment.
@@danielrickman6972 yes 100ppm is usually life threatening, however you can start smelling it as low as 0.13 ppm. by the time its at 100ppm its such a strong smell that your nose stops smelling it altogether and you go 'nose blind' to it, which is basically way too late. if you ever get a super strong whiff of it, but then it seems like it goes away, then that genuinely is a "holy shit run away" moment. if you can only just barely smell it and it isn't stinging your eyes and you have no other irritation, such as to your throat, then its likely not a concern given situational context.
Hey Cody if Elon proposed that you would be one of the first inhabitants to build a base on Mars would you go? I sure would!
Edit: Coming from re watching the entire CHB series.
On the condition that he use robots to collect and preserve uncontaminated samples from all over the planet first.
@@theCodyReeder He could send robo Cody?
I have been waiting for you to do another Precious metal recovery video, I found your channel through these and stayed because of the KNOWLEDGE I gain from watching your videos
I miss videos from you Cody! I was scrolling my YT feed and came across this video. If it had been anyone else, I wouldn't have clicked on it. As soon as I saw it was one of your videos, I clicked instantly. Keep up the good work dude!
My sincere hope is that Elon Musk sees these videos and sends Cody up to space for real. You know. FOR SCIENCE!
He might be interested in my rocket engine designs. Musk said he liked simplicity and my engine only has 12 moving parts including the pumps and vectoring. I'll show it off in another video.
@@theCodyReeder... All. My. Yes.
Yes Yes YES!
@@theCodyReeder bring iiiiiit
Sounds like a Mr Tesalonian video! I can't wait Cody Don!
Depending on the type of meteorite the price can be up to $2000-$5000/gram just so people are aware of this before destroying meteors they find to get a few dollars of precious out of it... (check if it is of the valuable type first).
Chemistry has never been so fun than when you teach us how to extract platinum from a meteorite and say that it’s worth going in space to repeat the process.
Thank you for your work and the money you put in it.
Awesome work as always Cody. I save all of my heavy mineral concentrates from gold panning. I've also collected dark blue clay and black shale which have higher concentrations of platinum group metals in the region where I live. I've made acid solutions and used cyanide to enable the electroplating of platinum group metals and I actually do have some PGMs which formed an electrolytic deposit on my electrode, and it peeled off quite easily. It's bright and shiny on the inner side, but black on the outer layer. The quantity of metal is even more minuscule than what you acquired from the meteorite. I'm pretty sure we amateur chemists, geologists and miners just don't have the resources to collect PGMs economically. It's fun to experiment though and worth the experience to develop new skills.