Teardown - new Ellipse beamspring switches!

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  • čas přidán 7. 10. 2022
  • Today we look at an awesome development; a new beamspring switch heavily inspired by IBM's original design. These come from Joe over at modelfkeyboards.com and are the type that feature in the first round of beamspring keyboards.
    Intro by Kyle Carter
    Outro by Facundo Cabanne
    My keyboard reviews: bit.ly/1TbOtft
    My switch teardowns: bit.ly/2C1QGHz
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    I'm Thomas and I do videos and reviews on mechanical keyboards ranging from the most sickening modern RGB gaming keyboards to vintage hardware relics, or sometimes keycaps or keyswitches ranging from Cherry MX to Alps SKCM to IBM buckling springs and anything in between.
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Komentáře • 136

  • @probaskinnyman4960
    @probaskinnyman4960 Před rokem +96

    Finally i can get fired from my job without paying a bunch of bucks for a half functioning rare keyboard

    • @gymbro5
      @gymbro5 Před rokem +4

      Half functioning? My beamspring was the most reliable and coolest board I’ve had.

    • @cheater00
      @cheater00 Před rokem +3

      Beamsprings are not loud at all.

    • @probaskinnyman4960
      @probaskinnyman4960 Před rokem +11

      @@cheater00 i disagree, a normal blue switch is quite annoying to hear alone, beamsprings are muchhhh more worst. Though I admit it sounds great in terms of clicking, not great in the decibels part

    • @probaskinnyman4960
      @probaskinnyman4960 Před rokem +1

      @@gymbro5 well if u find one today at the junkyard , you might need to fix it before being able to use it fully. Its less likely you will find a fully functioning beamspring. This is what i meant

    • @cheater00
      @cheater00 Před rokem +1

      @@probaskinnyman4960 you're confused, the loud part is the solenoid people often add to the keyboards, the spring's click itself is very light.

  • @Boyetto-san
    @Boyetto-san Před rokem +72

    Given the endangered unicorn status of keyboards and switches that go THAT far back, this attempt to make brand new modern versions is always welcome for making these vintage sensibilities more accessible, and also to finally show the custom MX community how good clickies really can be.

    • @mohawk4759
      @mohawk4759 Před rokem

      @@florianmerten7348 more than a $2000 keyboard

  • @Kevin-jb2pv
    @Kevin-jb2pv Před 6 měsíci +8

    Had any updates on these? I'm really looking forward to these, but I want to hear more about how these have turned out before I pull the trigger on one!

  • @Chozo_Ghost
    @Chozo_Ghost Před rokem +57

    Ohhhh man, I cannot WAIT to see what comes of these. Been wanting a beam spring since I first saw that video of yours years back.
    I hope these new beam spring keyboards also come with that sweet, sweet solenoid action!

    • @jasonsdodd
      @jasonsdodd Před rokem

      They have started taking orders. Just paid for the b122 version. I couldn't believe it when I saw they had a 122 key version. Perhaps my comment regarding the lack of that for the model f had some impact.
      Anyway, the b122 corrects the two minor annoyances I have with the model f122: No gap between the f4-f5 keys and the inverted t nav cluster. to be fair neither of those were horrible as i dummied out the extra nav k and put keycaps with landmarks on the f4 and f9 keys.

  • @AlJavier06
    @AlJavier06 Před rokem +18

    This is exciting. I hope these revised vintage switches catch-on to add much needed variety in the keyboard community.

    • @nobodynoone2500
      @nobodynoone2500 Před rokem +6

      Between beam-springs and hall-effect, the future of keyuboards is lookin nice.

  • @larrymarso4492
    @larrymarso4492 Před 4 měsíci +2

    on the "take my money!" shortlist but only if it gets the thumbs up here. so much time has passed, I fear it's not coming.

  • @jacksonhall3151
    @jacksonhall3151 Před rokem +5

    I’ve been waiting for a new beamspring switch for years

  • @DontGetHit648
    @DontGetHit648 Před rokem +7

    In the words of AVGN: "WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD NAME THEIR COMPANY S... T... D!”

    • @NigelMontezuma
      @NigelMontezuma Před rokem

      THE FUCK WITH THAT! WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD NAME THEIR CAR COMPANY *"STI"?!?!*

  • @wkgmathguy218
    @wkgmathguy218 Před rokem +3

    Oh dear....just the other day I was talking with a friend about my obsessive mania...errr... mild interest in keyboards and said something about the slowing of my acquisitions.... I said, 'Of course if someone redid beamsprings....'
    Great to see you Tom :-)

  • @ash36230
    @ash36230 Před rokem +4

    Hope to see a review of this installed on a keyboard soon

  • @alphabetaxenonzzzcat
    @alphabetaxenonzzzcat Před rokem +4

    Great that these are getting made. It's also great that it is going to be in the 104 keys form.

  • @SonicBoone56
    @SonicBoone56 Před rokem

    Amazing to see innovation in keyboard switches again!

  • @Antares-dw9iv
    @Antares-dw9iv Před rokem +8

    And I here thought buying the new model f was the last time I am gonna spend an exorbitant amount of money on a keyboard.

    • @wkgmathguy218
      @wkgmathguy218 Před rokem +1

      That's what I was just thinking too. And the new model F is terrific :-)

  • @smoaf2010
    @smoaf2010 Před rokem +2

    YOOOOO new beamsprings no waaay

  • @esra_erimez
    @esra_erimez Před rokem +1

    Just when I though the rabbit hole couldn't get any deeper

  • @hackersarchangel
    @hackersarchangel Před rokem +4

    And here I was planning on getting a Unicomp Model M… I’ve never used a Model F but I’d love to try one someday.

    • @bsadewitz
      @bsadewitz Před rokem

      I just ordered an XT model F that was sitting in its box in an abandoned train station or something like that. 😂
      The guy who salvaged it didn't even sell any other electronics, really--mostly headlights for vintage cars and whatnot. There was no picture of the board itself, only the box, which seems to have been repaired with duck tape. It was "only" $30, though. I am expecting a corroded, soiled, nonfunctional disaster, though there's a chance it'll be in better condition. I categorically cannot afford the new model F. If I can't manage to rehabilitate this one, I'm just going to order a new model M spacesaver from Unicomp.

    • @bsadewitz
      @bsadewitz Před rokem

      There are probably just as many people who prefer the model M's feel as there are who prefer the model F's. I had used one model M or other as my keyboard for about 20 of my 42 years, and can't say I ever discerned much difference.

    • @lain2236ad
      @lain2236ad Před rokem

      @@bsadewitz Any updates?

  • @devzozo
    @devzozo Před rokem +2

    Wow new beamsprings I will never be able to get

  • @NoOne-ki3bm
    @NoOne-ki3bm Před rokem +9

    Beam spring switch with the ability to use modern keycap sets. I’m in.

    • @kristoffer3000
      @kristoffer3000 Před rokem +2

      That's a dangerous thing to say without knowing the price.

    • @tyrgoossens
      @tyrgoossens Před rokem +2

      These + mt3 profile caps will probably get pretty close to a modern version of the classic beamspring keyboards.

    • @BA-oy9uo
      @BA-oy9uo Před rokem

      @@tyrgoossens pga from kbdfans to me is more like what they used to have, MT3 is more of a modern adaptation

    • @XalphYT
      @XalphYT Před rokem

      @@kristoffer3000 The estimated price is already on the Model F keyboard website. Going from memory, I think it's 600 or 650 US Dollars.

    • @kristoffer3000
      @kristoffer3000 Před rokem +1

      @@XalphYT Ouch.

  • @zuqini
    @zuqini Před 4 měsíci +1

    Would love to see your review and comparison of the beamspream repro model!

  • @johnliu7893
    @johnliu7893 Před rokem +3

    I’m encouraged that a full sized (104 key) version appears to be in the making. A TKL or smaller keyboard is of no use to me.

  • @hjalfi
    @hjalfi Před rokem +2

    Ooh, I thought this project died! Great to see it's back again.

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před rokem +6

      The other beamspring (Input Club Silo) was cancelled, yes. This one not, thankfully :) .

  • @jacekruzyczka3058
    @jacekruzyczka3058 Před rokem +3

    Together with these nice etched keycaps, I would go for a keybord with such switches. :)

  • @dacopellino
    @dacopellino Před rokem +1

    Great project that of resurrecting beamsprings. What a nightmare for Joe coupling by hand all those foils...

  • @InvidiousIgnoramus
    @InvidiousIgnoramus Před rokem +1

    AW HELL, I didn't know Joe was doing this! Dammit, and I said I was not buying keyboards anymore!

  • @RussTech125
    @RussTech125 Před 3 měsíci +3

    2:47 where’s the review?

  • @kamenninov1405
    @kamenninov1405 Před rokem

    can't wait

  • @leonid137
    @leonid137 Před rokem

    I would love to see review on the new Beam Spring Round 1 Keyboard

  • @magusperde365
    @magusperde365 Před rokem

    having the same keyring with a switch as you and watching your finger while saying " if feels a bit different" its more tactile right ? when Iput my finger on my singular switch it jsut smoooothly goes down. but while saying this something made your finger bottom faster than it should have. there a bump that isnt isnt here on the old one before the sharp fall ?

  • @alistairblaire6001
    @alistairblaire6001 Před rokem +2

    I thought I was done after the remade Model F...dang it.

  • @jasonsdodd
    @jasonsdodd Před rokem

    what would be perfect is a board where the keycap profiles are all the same like the model f but wil beam springs.

  • @jtsiomb
    @jtsiomb Před rokem +4

    I hope they make a proper standard layout keyboard out of them this time.

    • @WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart
      @WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart Před rokem

      What is a "standard layout"? There are many standards.

    • @jtsiomb
      @jtsiomb Před rokem

      @@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart At least US ANSI 101/103(winkeys) key layout, and ideally adaptable to european ISO layouts to cover most bases.

  • @carrops
    @carrops Před rokem +2

    Woah that's great news! This needs to be counteracted by something, perhaps a redux of your Fold 2000 review? 😶

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před rokem +1

      I have something that I think might be much worse than that! 8)

  • @ahvionshift
    @ahvionshift Před rokem

    Just before i sleep, hell yeahh!

  • @anthonyj.buller8437
    @anthonyj.buller8437 Před 4 měsíci

    I'd really love to see your review of these switches. Please tell me it's in the pipe!

  • @mariorossi1633
    @mariorossi1633 Před rokem +1

    Hi, can You tell if the springs of these new switches are identical to the vintage ones? I'm looking for new springs for a bunch of 3277 keyboards I recovered from hell

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před rokem +1

      I'm not sure, it's best to contact Joe about this.

  • @butre.
    @butre. Před rokem +1

    if this goes the way of silos I'm gonna be livid

  • @MrBlitzpunk
    @MrBlitzpunk Před rokem

    Hi chyros, have you ever considered reviewing/ever had a stenograph keyboard? That'd be interesting i reckon

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před rokem +1

      Definitely, but I don't have one xD . The channel is run entirely on donations and they're not a common thing.

  • @ethur10n
    @ethur10n Před rokem +16

    YES, I CAN'T WAIT TO GET THESE STDs!!!!

    • @spageen
      @spageen Před rokem

      previously unsaid sentences in history

  • @sparktaylor8489
    @sparktaylor8489 Před rokem +1

    Me and my idiocy reading the title as
    "STD NEW BEGINNINGS"

  • @Spearra
    @Spearra Před rokem +2

    Fingers crossed this project doesn't end up like the Silo Beamspring switch. 🤞

    • @scottnash70
      @scottnash70 Před rokem

      Agreed. I learned of its fate at the NorCal meetup in July from Andrew at Kono. Apparently the equipment would have been hellishly expensive.

  • @tyrgoossens
    @tyrgoossens Před rokem +2

    This is going to cost me a lot of money isn't it ?

  • @Dvovsky
    @Dvovsky Před rokem +5

    Hopefully the quality won’t match the name. STDs on my keyboard sound a bit scary

    • @rajvinder89
      @rajvinder89 Před rokem

      Yeah I was about to comment about the same.

  • @Banzai431
    @Banzai431 Před rokem

    Oh yes. Yes. Yessss.

  • @slefendermobile6604
    @slefendermobile6604 Před rokem +3

    Haven’t watched a vid from you in ages and it’s kinda weird seeing a new intro

    • @wkgmathguy218
      @wkgmathguy218 Před rokem +2

      Tom uses the new one for things like switch teardowns, and the old one for the reviews. I like both of them :-)

  • @lukian0816
    @lukian0816 Před rokem

    This must be a dream

  • @luceatlux
    @luceatlux Před 9 měsíci

    So apparently these beam springs last pretty much forever? I wonder how the metal does not fatigue after so many actuations.

  • @noodles.is.awayyy
    @noodles.is.awayyy Před rokem

    the STD switch?

  • @NortelGeek
    @NortelGeek Před rokem +3

    I can feel the heft just watching you press down on them. These sound wonderful and they look like they have great weighting and are probably as smooth as silk!

    • @cheater00
      @cheater00 Před rokem

      There's absolutely no heft. I have a NOS beam spring and they are the lightest action you can imagine. Every tactile or clicky MX keyboard has an incomparably heavier action.

    • @matthewhall6288
      @matthewhall6288 Před rokem

      @@cheater00 He said they feel different in the video.

    • @cheater00
      @cheater00 Před rokem

      @@matthewhall6288 yes, and? the spring is still the same construction.

  • @aialra588
    @aialra588 Před rokem +2

    Outstanding achievement! Unfortunately, I prefer to collect vintage keyboards rather than switches, so I still chosen to buy the old beam, but I am still looking forward to this new creation being applied!

  • @WTFA54
    @WTFA54 Před rokem

    mx-compatible stems on a beamspring... my wallet is quivering in fear

  • @lucidmoses
    @lucidmoses Před rokem

    Well, that's a surprise.

  • @petermuller608
    @petermuller608 Před rokem

    Have the original patents expired, or how was he possible to do a rerun?

    • @matthewhall6288
      @matthewhall6288 Před rokem +2

      Yes, beam spring switches were patented in 1971. The patent has long expired.

  • @prgnify
    @prgnify Před rokem +1

    at 02:00 I might've misheard, but wouldn't those GOURD switches count? I can't remember the name, but the ones that are actually just a spring, not a switch 'per se'

    • @prgnify
      @prgnify Před rokem +1

      Also if I may add, this mechanism, by virtue of being literally inverted, might be the solution for a minor annoyance I have with almost every key switch out there, the CLACK they make when returning to position, as opposed to the CLICK that the mechanism makes, or the THOCK of the cap hitting the plate.

    • @zakutenakazumiya1516
      @zakutenakazumiya1516 Před rokem +1

      Are you talking about Oki Tactile Gourd Springs? Then yes.

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před rokem +1

      Correct, Oki gourd springs also have it! I knew I was forgetting some :) .

    • @prgnify
      @prgnify Před rokem +1

      @@Chyrosran22 Of course, after all I only know about them due to your video. Thanks for all the content, keep up the good work, love it

  • @jasonsdodd
    @jasonsdodd Před rokem

    Got an email they are taking orders now. I'm about to pull the trigger. I got the wonderfull surprise that there's a 122 key version. If this ships in 2023, 2023 will be my best year keyboard wise.

    • @jasonsdodd
      @jasonsdodd Před rokem

      They've just announced a new model f122 again with separation between the pf keys. i think that will complete my keyboard purchase for qute a while.

  • @Olumin37
    @Olumin37 Před rokem

    The early version of the keyboard Ive seen looked horrendous. I hope they will come up with a better design for the final product.

  • @NigelMontezuma
    @NigelMontezuma Před rokem

    See Behind The Keycap!

  • @sparktaylor8489
    @sparktaylor8489 Před rokem +2

    Bold move naming something
    STD

    • @johncochran8497
      @johncochran8497 Před rokem

      There's plenty of people out there who don't pay attention to their company names. For instance, in the past, I saw a lot of devices from Optical Data Systems. All of their equipment had ODS in nice bold lettering. Was frankly surprised at the number of people who would say O D S without thinking of the word Odious....

  • @LightPink
    @LightPink Před rokem +1

    I'd be interested if my experience with the model f wasn't so shit lol

    • @jestflow
      @jestflow Před rokem

      What's gone wrong with your model f? I've been thinking of getting one.

    • @karellen00
      @karellen00 Před rokem +1

      I'm too curious why, I received a model F a couple weeks ago and I'm pretty happy with it!

  • @zakutenakazumiya1516
    @zakutenakazumiya1516 Před rokem +5

    Shame that the Silo Beamspring switch will never come to fruition. However this is a really bold move. Sounds thocky and bassy though. Let's all hope the keyboard won't cost an arm and 2 legs 😂

    • @johncochran8497
      @johncochran8497 Před rokem

      Indeed. After all, if an arm is part of the price, how could you type after paying? Only drawback I see to those switches is that the resulting keyboard isn't gonna be exactly thin. But ought to sound and feel great.

    • @kshadehyaena
      @kshadehyaena Před rokem

      Never say never, they were cancelled because they lacked the funding for mass production tooling, right? All that design work is still there, maybe someone picks it back up.

    • @jacekruzyczka3058
      @jacekruzyczka3058 Před rokem

      The board will not cost you and arm and both legs, yet it will cost your HEAD. Bwahahaaa!!!!

    • @kfcdoubledown1690
      @kfcdoubledown1690 Před rokem +1

      Shame the move to a Hall Effect design doomed them to obscurity. I understood when they were mentioning it left more room for the actual mechanism but then it wanked on about all the potential of Hall Effect and how many typing styles can be accommodated by contactless methods and my eyes glazed over.

    • @DerGamerChaot
      @DerGamerChaot Před rokem +1

      It will cost roughly 500$ according to the Google survey about potential buyers

  • @deviljelly3
    @deviljelly3 Před rokem

    Up early watching the Grand Prix?

  • @sonicase
    @sonicase Před rokem

    HHHIIIIDEO-- oh, i mean IIInnnteresting

  • @chickenchuggets6395
    @chickenchuggets6395 Před rokem

    Haha my wallet’s gonna love this one!❤❤

  • @Inivican
    @Inivican Před rokem

    "STD new beamsprings"

  • @XalphYT
    @XalphYT Před rokem

    Has anyone who signed up to the waiting list got an invitation from Ellipse?

  • @cheater00
    @cheater00 Před rokem

    Making them shorter is a really stupid idea given that the smoothness of the mechanism directly depends on the tangent of the down-force applied by the finger against the outer wall, and that increases super-linearly and then super-exponentially as the switch height is shortened. He's literally killing the most important part of the switch.

    • @DerGamerChaot
      @DerGamerChaot Před rokem

      According to the creator the travel was not affected by it

    • @cheater00
      @cheater00 Před rokem

      @@DerGamerChaot no but this is not about the travel, this is about the distance between the bottom of the plunger (where it's welded to the beam spring) and the top face of the key. This will be considerably shorter.

    • @DerGamerChaot
      @DerGamerChaot Před rokem

      @@cheater00 I see now. I did not understand your comment at first, but that makes sense. I wonder how different it feels. I also did not understand why he did not just make it the same design.

    • @cheater00
      @cheater00 Před rokem

      @@DerGamerChaot maybe he thinks it's excessive. I don't think a lot of people realize why exactly this design feels so smooth, but that's the reason.