The Greatest Keyboard of All Time.. Reborn
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Amazing tactile feel. Distinct mechanical acoustics. Unparalleled durability. The IBM Model M is likely the most influential keyboard ever- even if it’s NOT great for gaming. But how does a brand new Unicomp Classic compare?
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I bought one of these for one of our accounting executives, he's about 55, and he lost his damn mind. Best gift I think I've ever given.
@Matt Insett must be nostalgic.
It is quality for typing: a lot of ppl prefer it as the 'real deal' too; it depends waht you like best irl
I'm a few years younger and that is what I learned to type and write programs on,. After a year or two, I can type in the pitch-black dark and not make a mistake because of the muscle memory from college. Nothing feels as good as a model-M. If there is ever a shooter in the office he can hide behind that keyboard.
@@epistte ?
@@mareksicinski3726 You called?
@Tha_Blk_Bih_Destroyah_2020 Your explanation is correct, but I'm very much she, if that's OK.
linus looks like eminem if he did computer science
Huh? My name is.. what? My name is who? My name is.... CATASTROPHICALLY BUCKLING COMPRESSION COLUMN SWITCH AND ACTUATOR
Or like he is about to drop a weird post modern industrial folk punk record on a independent label in Berlin
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@Tanjiro Kamado Jim Carey?
@Tanjiro Kamado ok. 了解した。
I don't always type on a Model M, but when I do, I buckle catastrophically
Good)
What is so great about it? Does it come in ISO layout? Because this is the standard where I live.
@@TremereTT Try one. Seriously. It’s a unique experience.
@@conduit242 Well I want to, if it comes in an ISO layout!
F-Rune well you can always remap the keys and move the keycaps.
I like how there are spaces where the Windows keys will be. Almost like how the Periodic Table was slowly filled in.
Tis a fate old as time, foretold by the gods
If using this keyboard, do you just click the bottom left with your mouse to open windows menu
@@jack-yn1wt big chungus in real loife
Good analogy!
In the Linux world we call those Super keys. And generally enjoy faster, more stability and overall freedom =)
do you think he wears his sandals and socks in this video ?
Dakin Real this keeps me up at night
Loafers with tassels
OF COURSE! 😅
Probs.
Dakin Real lol, of course
I bought a buckling spring keyboard back ca. 2005 and had to stop using it because it was simply too damned noisy in the office. If you can type at ~100wpm the thing sounds like machine-gun fire. Fun for me; disastrous for everyone else.
mine was banned three days after it arrived!
The police came at my door when it arrived
If someone told me I couldn't bring in my Model M, I'd deliberately bring in something in a metal case with BOX Navy/Jade thick clicks for the next day.
Not really, but I would like to see the reactions.
@@Jrez What could possibly fit that description? I'm not entirely sure what "BOX Navy/Jade thick clicks" are, either. Could you explain that to me?
@@Thalanox Kailh is a manufacturer of keyboard key switches. The BOX Navy and BOX Jade versions are not only clicky switch types, they are designed to be very loud and tactile by the use of a thicker "clickbar" than on their BOX White switches, that makes a louder noise and is more force to overcome for the tactile feel. I believe they are some of the loudest switches you can buy. Clicky switches IMO sound best in big, heavy full-size keyboards. IBM's beam-springs probably would not sound as deep and "thocky" in a 60% board. However, a BOX Jade/Navy example: czcams.com/video/tgAzGrdqqXU/video.html
What would fit that description is a custom keyboard like this, where each part is chosen independently. If anyone finds this topic interesting and wants to get into mechanical keyboards, I warn you it can be extremely expensive, avoid buying on impulse.
"catastrophically buckling compression column switch and actuator" has to be my favorite patent name of all time
Love it
I feel like it was initially intended to be a ''compression column switch and actuator'' when they were developing it, until they discovered a ''catastrophically buckling'' side effect in its design [which they had a liking to and just went with it]
"catastrophically buckling" seems to be a term in engineering, when you put so much load on a metal beam that it breaks. That kind of failure tends to happen very suddenly, and it can lead to chain reactions if it puts more load on other supporting structure. It was probably used in the patent because engineers reviewing the patent would be familiar with the term (although most patents were concerned with _avoiding_ that behavior) and would understand how the spring would yield to pressure.
It's technically _not_ a catastrophic case, because unlike a metal tube or beam, a spring doesn't take damage; it just snaps back upright when most of the load goes away. However, it happens just as suddenly, which is important for fast typists (and competitive gamers); if it did not, the moving parts would introduce some "lag" even before processing, network bandwidth, signal round-trip time etc. would apply. And by labeling it "catastrophic" they could differentiate between this one and other means of the term "buckling."
My fave is "bomb calorimeter" which is a heat measurement device used in chemistry. The "bomb" is a pressure container which is filled with a sample, which is then ignited. Like an explosive kind of bomb, the thick walls of the container can withstand substantial pressure. _Unlike_ the explosive kind, the pressure tends to build up within seconds or minutes, not within milliseconds, and the container is never breached. And the contents are usually flammable, but not explosive. There are quite some jokes about talk like "preparing the bomb" and variants which were taken as illegal acts by some uninitiated person nearby.
@@achtsekundenfurz7876 This is super interesting, thanks for the info!
Love the 80’s/90’s cinematographic aesthetic 😂 the slow, grandiose individual displays of each keyboard with the 80’s/90’s suit for that professional informative look
Production quality is strong in this video.
This was the last video that Max filmed before she left, she did a really good job!
The Production is Strong with this one.
i was just thinking that lol
They do these types of quality videos once or twice per year.
jake kiedaisch She also did the lighting
yo Linus does look Fresh af in that Suit tho
Huff Poster no one gives a shit
OperatorFoxtrot ⠀
OperatorFoxtrot
He's hoooooot
Imagine him with the quarintine beard
What i love about CZcams is when you browsed high end gaming keyboard in the search engine then BAM Linus in Fancy ass suit explaining about Old IBM Mechanical Keyboard showed up in recommendation.
If you want good mechanical keyboards don't get gaming ones. They are super overpriced for what they offer. Aside from the logitech one that has very fast Bluetooth / wireless and seems sorta decent. You can buy and build absolutely fantastic keyboards for the rpive of a "high end" gaming keyboard. And completely costomize the feel, materials, switches etc. And nowadays they all have the gaming stuff (bright multicolour leds etc)
@@godofchaoskhorne5043 What are gaming keyboards actually worth? 75% of the price? 50%? 25?
@@NaudVanDalen Probably 75% . You can buy a keyboard like Anne Pro 2 and mod them to your likings (lube, foam , keycaps though im not sure if keycaps fit into the moddding category and more.) I use a Reddragon Lakshmi 60% for 25$ (converted price) that has Oetemu Reds. I replaced them with Oetemu Blacks, lubed the stabilizers and they sound wonderful.
The brown jacket and content of the video match Alec from Technology Connections who you should totally do some sort of retro tech collab video with because that channel is amazing.
This was from 11 months ago and still has no likes? I’m shook
A fellow technology collections fan! Hello!
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Me : *skips 20 seconds*
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Skipping ads is theft.
Or so argues some anti-adblock advocates, who claim that using an adblocker is theft. So, by that logic, it's theft to leave the room when a TV commercial comes on.
@@flawlessstrategy9972 why the empty space ?!
You missed the best part...
"...random a;lsdkvdbglt"
@@flawlessstrategy9972 Listening to the radio is also theft, as is recording broadcast television.
*CATASTROPHICALLY BUCKLING COMPRESSION COLUMN SWITCH AND ACTUATOR*
The best switches really
I read that in captain disillusion's voice
And i thought i was bad at naming things
or as most people know them as "buckling spring switches"
I want to walk into a Canada Computers and ask them what aisle they keep these. In that voice.
I wish LTT would make videos with this great production quality and aesthetics again.
Don't you worry. They will :) It just had to be something unique and worth putting extra effort (and money) in it. Meanwhile you can jus always rewatch "Murderbox" video/short documentary
Hi, Linus . . . This is the first of your videos I have seen. I somehow stumbled onto your channel from watching many videos on Mechanical Keyboards (specifically, DAS Keyboards, which I had first heard of from reading NY Bestselling author, Gregg Hurwitz's Orphan X series). I learned MANY new things from you in this video: the history of the IBM keyboard you featured (I used it for 9 years in one of my first jobs out of college in Dallas) and the name of the connector (PS2) for one of the old Compaq keyboards which I still own and have wanted to use with my Early 2011Apple MacBook Pro because I like the sound and tactile feel of a "standard" keyboard! (Now, I'll be able to purchase a PS2 to USE converter online!). THANK YOU for your channel -- I subscribed!
I must say: After watching a few of your videos (including the "Linus Replies to Mean Comments"), I have to rhetorically ask, "Just WHY are people SO mean?" Take care, God bless!
I like the Linus talk in Jacket, more Linus Jobs plz
it's larry ellison clothing style
this is the old school channel icon.
Linus Jobs
I thought it was a new macklemore video for a second.
He wore a suit for the iMac G3 presentation.
I love the old school theme of the video, the suit, the microscope on the desk etc. Great!
Even the "hand drawn" graphs
only the earrings are somewhat misplaced i think.
That slow walk at 5:55
exactly
Me too!!!
I managed to get a Model M a few years ago. It's a "third-gen" model from Lexmark in '93, but it does still have the buckling-spring switches and still feels and sounds great. I don't use it all that often, but I don't see myself ever getting rid of it.
I lived in Iowa City (or near it) for years.
Before the flood of 2008, the University of Iowa surplus store routinely had used Model M keyboards in stock.
I bought SEVERAL - and they're all still working, though some of the cords are getting a bit frayed and I might have to start sending them in (one at a time) to Unicomp for refurbishment.
when i first heard that the type of cable is called PS/2 i thought it had something to do with the playstation 2 because the ps2 had the ps/2 port
I would love more videos like this. Very old school and professional!
Too bad the videographer (Max) has left LMG, and this video was her last hurrah for LTT
More like greatest suit of all time
It's a blazer...
Sorry dad
Watched it in 4K just because of it.
My main man Carl Sagan
And you have the greatest name of all time
Great video. I miss my youth and the time I spent with my father building computers.
Watching this video really took me back to simpler and happier times. Thank you guys for making it.
I liked the display of the progression of keyboard models. When Linus said "descendant" and looked back at the the previous models while holding the newest one, conveyed so much information in a tight visual shot.
I like these well thought out, high production quality videos with a theme waaaaay better than the handicammed-sitting-in-the-office-watching-Linus-disassemble-and-reassemble-a-test-bench-for-the-783rd-time-for-7-minutes-just-to-hear-an-answer-that-was-kind-of-obvious-in-the-beginning type of ones.
Peti Gyurós Thank ms max
I love my model M. I built a custom programmable controller for it.. I really should turn that into a video. I got stuck on trying to software-enable n-key roll over without modifying the plastic membranes.. (I got very, very close! :D)
Level1Techs I would love to see that video. Sounds awesome
You should definitely do it.
5 bucks say you don't have the guts! >.>
Keep it about as long as this one and I'll watch the whole thing. Give your self built points to fallow and control the rant; you'll do well.
Get a model F 122
I ordered a new Model M from Unicomp 10 days ago and I absolutely love it! 😍 The quality issues that were described here and in other videos & posts are gone. Unicomp fixed those.
I ordered mine with the Ultra Classic chassis since it's slightly smaller in width. I also ordered it with Windows 95 keys. Typing on it feels so much different than on a standard rubber dome or Cherry keyboard. It really is something unique and lots of fun to work with! :) Of course it's slightly different than the originals from the 80's and 90's but Unicomp had to modify their model M to stay competitive - that's a factor that shouldn't be forgotten.
@RTobi-(Rummeltobi):
THANKYOU! :-)
Seriously thankyou :-) . I was freaking-out about ordering a Unicomp--Model-M because of the issues described here [in this CZcams-video], but seeing as how you ordered one (and RECENTLY i might add[, (based on the age of your post)]), I'm thinking I'll order one :-) .
THANKYOU! :-)
P.S. I used a second-generation IBM Model-M (one of my universities had *REALLY*-OLD computers in the computer-lab inside the library (the computer-lab in the library was a separate-room from the room that had all the books & study-desks, by the way)). (Yeah I know: lucky me :-) ). (It was typing-heaven to a person-who-types-without-looking-down-at-the-keyboard).
Unfortunately when the university had a "give-away all the old equipment"-day those keyboards were the FIRST to disappear (even though I arrived there EXTRA-early, WAYYY-before they opened-the-room where all the old stuff [they were giving[-]away] was).
I was trying-to--find-out what were the "Cherry-MX"-switches that are the CLOSEST-THING to those 2nd-Generation--IBM-Model-M "Buckling-Spring Switches", (but I dunno if that would be the Cherry-MX "Brown" or the Cherry-MX "Blue" switches).
Any advice and/or tips and/or pointers?
@@reoencarcelado5904 I thought I replied to this comment but I may have closed the tab before hitting the reply button.
I'll post a link to another video in my 2nd reply here. That video also confirms that the quality issues are gone.
Lucky that you could use these at your university but it sucks that you didn't get one when they were giving them away. Although I do wonder why the university would give those wonderful keyboards away. Especially why they would keep those away for free? Those are worth a fortune.
I did never own a keyboard with Cherry switches but I did type on some keyboards that have these switches. I don't think that Cherry switches come close to the buckling springs. Personally I'd go for the Unicomp.
A few other things that I love about the Unicomp Model M:
- the feel of the keys. I think those are made out of PBT which has a quite interesting and good feel. As far as I know those keys will not tear off.
- the angled shape which is ideally for writing
@@reoencarcelado5904 Here's the video I was referring to in my previous comment czcams.com/video/jHduvsFi1eQ/video.html
@@Rummeltobi It was the campus here in the now-former Panama Canal Zone that used to house the 2-year [community-college] "Panama Canal College" and after-that the Panama campus for Florida-State University.
They had ALOT of old computers in that computer-lab, and I recognized some of the keyboards I used as the "2nd-generation "IBM "Model-M" " " because of all the characteristics Linus said in his CZcams video
( ● heavy-as-fuck base,
● NO "Windows"--nor--"right-click menu" keyboard-key,
● AWESOME feel when typing
(when you get used[/accustomed] to how hard you have to press the keys when typing[,] compared to a membrane keyboard),
● green indicator-lights [on the upper-right-hand-corner of the keyboard] for indicating when CAPS-LOCK and SCROLL-LOCK and NUMBER-LOCK[/NUMERICAL-LOCK] were turned-on,
● the "IBM"-logo on the upper-left-hand-corner of the keyboard,
● the keyboard connecting to the computer via a PS/2 port,
● a spring underneath when one removed the keycap,
● etcetera).
i WISH that i could have gotten one of those old keyboards, as that was pretty-much the only thing i was going for
(as far as i know, they were upgrading the computers in the computer-lab at the library, and that-is-why they were getting-rid of all the old stuff).
@@Rummeltobi thanks-so-much for the link to the other CZcams-video :-) . I'm checking-it-out right now :-)
Good job, Max. What a video! Production quality (and obviously, information quality) is top notch. *Long live buckling spring!*
Snazzy Labs too bad she left.... Lay down.... Try not to cry.... Cry alot.
Max left, you been sleeping?
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This was one of the last things she shot before she left. :/
:'(
Who cares about max it's a fucking feemale
I work for IBM and I asked for one of these when I joined. They laughed at me :(
I want names of those employees. Names and addresses NOW!!!!
@@timothyandrewnielsen why would he? Its private information
ITS A FUCKING JOKE
@@user-cq3sd9ep4j r/wooooosh
Cause someones about to catch these hands.
Ahh, this popped up in my feed somehow. Seemed off and then I played it at 1.25x speed and it plays just like modern LTT videos. Nice!
thanks for the tip lol
That’s hella funny
I've wanted a Model M for YEARS, and my Unicomp finally arrived today, and so far, I love it!!!
Do you think it worthed it so far? After one year of use?
@@catoflado4977 my shift key started sticking once in awhile for the past week or so, otherwise, I'm really happy with it!
@@nicekeyboardalan6972 its actually a common problem for the older tooled keysets from Unicomp to have molding imperfections. They have since updated their tooling to new molds. Part of the reason for this binding is the stabilizer design on the Model M, which is about the 3rd worst I have ever seen from a smoothness standpoint. They use an older fashioned method of an entirely seperate barrel with a special stabilizer insert that if it is slightly misaligned binds like hell. Lubrication helps a small amount and the upside of this is that with the right PCB you can add new layouts using the same barrel plate. Wire stabilized keys are much better, found on boards like certain Model F AT's, but have more limited flexibility with layouts.
@@nicekeyboardalan6972 well im jealous, i have a new model f kishsaver, and any beamspring board would be unobtainium for me. I like tiny keebs tho.
@@nicekeyboardalan6972 it was 389 when I bought it, and yes, its fake but it feels as good as the other buckling spring boards, and brand new vs the used old relic. Also weighs just over 9 pounds which makes it night impossible to casually move it. More than the original.
Max did such a nice job on this video! We gonna miss her :'(
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Victor Bart - RETRO Machines
It would be great to see a behind the camera making of video.
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She's annoying
my name iis also max
7:50 my boy struggling with that keyboard
It's heavy. Old keyboards are heavy.
@@torpedo996 it's 2 kilos mate, you don't need to go to a gym to have the herculean grip strength to hold the model M.
TropiKo wait when
🤣🤣🤣
@@Tudorgeable it was just the way he was holding it
Back in the late 70s early 80s the Z80 Chromatics keyboard was one of my favorites. I also like the keyboards that came with Symbolics machines.
This video is especially well produced, excellent work!
Nice suit Linus
Rasbir Marwaha Dr. Linus
Looks like he's feeling cold. xD
They call that the Goodwill Special
It's not a suit but yes nice jacket/coat :). Proper... Stylish. Weird to see him with that on.
very Carl Saganish.
I once went to buy a PS/2 keyboard for my old PC. I asked the store worker for a PS/2 keyboard and they thought I meant a keybaord for PlayStation 2.
LOL. I just to think and wonder the same thing whenever I saw [PS/2] written on a PC, Keyboard etc.
In Russia it was calling PS/half
I purchased a ps2 keyboard when I was a kid because I thought it would work with my play station 2.
Which would make more sense than thinking you're talking about a PC keyboard with a PS/2 connector these days.
a russian friend said the same thing to me. i thought he was messing around. wow.
When I started my career I worked with older IBM AS400 systems and I still have a couple of the AS400 terminals from back then at my workplace, late 80's stuff. The keyboards are really heavy and seem like they'll last another 100 years. The terminal screens are also built like tanks, I would say they weigh at least 20kg's. The ones I have still work perfectly too and one of them is still in regular use. Amazing quality. Kind of wish I still had the IBM PC's a few users had back then too, they definitely had original model M's complete with the 5 pin DIN plug. Remember them well.
2:05
IBM also had DECADES of electrical keyboard experience in their typewriters to start with.
Plus their experience with the various Model F keyboards for the PC and XT (and I think the original 84 key AT keyboard was a Model F).
The 101 "Expanded AT" keyboard that was the first Model M for PCs, and the workstation/terminal variants that preceded it, are VERY SIMILAR in layout, except for the function keys move and added "middle" section, to that 84 key AT keyboard layout (and that 101 "Expanded AT" keyboard ALSO HAD A 5 PIN DIN CONNECTOR).
Why does this feel like a bizarre villain speech at the end of a James Bond movie? xD
dunno... maybe your references are a bit narrow. no hate tho.
...because:
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It's because the cadence is so slow -- it's easier to watch at 1.25x, for me, at least. Even 1.25x still seems a bit too slow, but it does save 2.5 minutes of time of viewing time, at least.
Nurpus Because HE IS!!!
I know this might be buried, but I am writing this on a 2019 Unicomp Model M PC-122. I have ZERO complaints about this keyboard, it is built like a tank, the keycaps are printed slightly off-center but are sharp and well-constructed, it types like a dream, and Unicomp were excellent to work with. If you're concerned by what Linus said about the build-quality, note that these imperfections are pretty rare and Unicomp has stepped their game up a lot recently (and will be able to do so more if they receive more business; they're serious about their reputation and customer satisfaction). Do you want a modern, clean, USB-functional model M with modern layout and other tweaks and conveniences? Then fear not.
The Model M is alive and well.
If you think the unicomp M's are built like a tank, you should try a model F lol. the M's feel absolutey flimsy by comparison, and the M's are already well built to begin with, especially for a modern keyboard.
@@SirRobertDole2 Absolutely, but very few can compare with those beasts! To be clear, I don't think the Unicomps are as good as early Ms or Fs, but they're not trash, which is the main concern people have when they ask me about mine.
Because critics concluded (rightly) that they aren't as good as original Ms, that's been extrapolated to "Unicomp make cheap plastic tat" by some. That's not fair to Unicomp, I've had plenty of crap keyboards and theirs isn't on that list. I'm very happy to use my Unicomp, I honestly look forward to typing on it. Sad, I know, but still.
@@SirRobertDole2 yeah, they used a cast zinc chassis and weighed 14 lbs
@@EyesackWorley more like 7-8Lbs actually
Ps/2 is better for zero latency and no key rollover
Good stuff. Back in the 80’s the IBM keyboard was my favorite. So tactical and satisfying when typing. As a professional writer I miss that keyboard.
There's something about the keypress feel and sound on these old things that is just super satisfying. It's like a little clack noise that says "Your keypress was registered" after you press the key all the way down. I'm sure it's super annoying to anyone else in the room, but I love that feel and sound. New keyboards just don't feel the same. I haven't used one since I was in primary school, but I do miss that feedback. If you have a dedicated office or room that is noise-isolated, this type of keyboard is so satisfying to type on when you're typing out actual papers/documents. I can't imagine using it for anything else, though.
About 20 years ago, my school collected back all those IBM keyboards to dispose and replace a new one (membrane switch). I was wanted to take one for myself but I didn't. Now, that is the regret that haunts me forever.
"But... more cheaper." i died 😂🤑😄
If you watch wan show, he often uses "more better". Which rips my ears even though english is not my 1st language. Linus. Please stop killing english. And our ears. Thanks.
I don't even let my 7 year old butcher english like this 😂
Canadians...
Its Zed not Zee!
A few seconds later he says "less good". I guess saying "worse" would have shortened the video by about a quarter second.
I like how you showed that dell alps keyboard. Alps switches deserver more spotlight as they were pretty good also.
4:07
By the way, the Model M inherited "buckling springs" from the Model F.
And the "rocker" is part of a CAPACITANCE sensor, which a large part of why these keyboards almost never die of old age.
Well done max... Your shooting and use of props is great!
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Max's last video...she did a great job with lighting from what Linus said on WAN show. This felt like Max showed us all her true power and then she's like...peace i'm out lol.
3:41 The patent is actually called „Rocking switch actuator for a low force membrane contact sheet“. The one you mentioned is an unused patent out of which this and the model f patent originated.
Hello, other person who knew this. 😂
I just found one at my grandma's house and i instantly recognized it cause of this vid. Ty linus
I started working in the IT field in 1988, and to this day I have kept and am still using the same Model M 1391401 keyboard I used with my work PC back then, on my current i5 processor PC at home - I will never give it up! I have an extra long PS/2 cable attached to it, and my mother board still has one PS/2 port on it - but I also have an active USB converter for it whenever I upgrade my motherboard in the future. When I type I have a habit of really pounding on the keyboard keys, yet this keyboard has withstood the abuse and held up perfectly for these past 30 years. I do have 4 or 5 spare Model M keyboards at home I salvaged from a couple pallets full of Model M's headed for the trash at one company I worked at, but I've never had to get a single one out of storage to replace this one!
4 or 5 Model Ms? My God, you have enough Model Ms to last you until the end of time. That's too many.
I feel like bragging, but see no point, so I will stuck it as a reply here. Nothing compares to 2 kg heavy IBM thing which produces this exact letters. I have it since my pentium 1. No dead key, just amazing feel and speed.
Now I'm going to local ads to try to hijack spare one from someone who doesn't know it's value.
When those keyboards have a million key presses on them they are just starting to get broken in. I don't know of any type M that wore out, all I seen die were from water or other physical damage. I know it isn't exactly the same but I do have a Unicomp from 2005 still going strong with no issues. It is close enough to the original for me. I also game with it and have no issues, though I am not at the professional or competition level.
I have also kept all of my model M keyboards but I only have two of them. Everyone loved looking at my keyboard while every other piece of hardware was top of the line on my PC. I will never buy a keyboard.
"salvaged"?
They gave us the Thinkpad and the Model M... Man, what a powerhouse.
They also gave us the "PC". Who choose to build an open architecture around an Intel 8086 CPU, and off-the-self parts, connecting everything to a few simple system buses, and tying all of that with a little program in ROM called the Basic Input and Output System (BIOS), and calling the result the "Personal Computer" ? Well, it's ever onward IBM!
IBM computers put a man on the moon and did computations to invent the A-bomb.
if you plug a Model M into a Thinkpad running OS/2 you add 1% to IBM's stock price
and the eye bee m logo
It's kinda awful that Lenovo took over the shazz
I actually used some of the weird variations, but the most common variation was the number of function keys. The control and "Windows" keys often existed with other names. PC keyboards actually had command keys at one point instead of control. The other key was often called meta. At times, there were all three, but this made the shift and return keys smaller.
Nice! Filco Majestouch - my current keyboard for several years. Just watching after seeing your video on the Compaq Presario laptop that I also had (with the wireless IR data transfer).
Quite possibly the greatest LTT video of all time
Done by Maxine Tomato
The best video is Max last video. We will miss you Max!
Yeah I miss the feel of those old keyboards, really nice to type on and built like a tank.
I have Steelseries 6GV2. It's a tank, feels very spartan and heavy. The only thing is that switches are only MX blacks. I don't really feel that they are better than even cheap rubber domes, be it typing or gaming. It doesn't look modern, some say it's boring, I would say it's classic. In only they offered more switch options, it could be next model M.
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Honestly? I prefer cherry MX by a lot. They are simply the better mechanical keyboards imho, especially compared the the Lexmark trash.
Wait, what do you mean Max's last video ?
If you watch the Wan Show you would have seen it
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Lol, great video, really wish I took all the Model M's home with me from IBM Poughkeepsie, when they were being "retired", literally boxes and boxes of them.
me: sees no win key
me who opens everything just with it: *sweats nervously
Ctrl-Esc!
@@btraker doesnt look as comfortable
Something tells me that linus would make a good low budget steve jobs
Robert Rosenberger that’s what I thought he was going for tbh
Ricardo Santos I think that’s quite the exaggeration, but there’s no doubt that engineers seldom get the credit they deserve. There are comments above about how much progress IBM made for computing, but no one knows what teams did what, and which of the same faces were involved. It’s always some singular entity that gets the credit, even though there are many people involved.
you mean Billy Maze?
@Ricardo Santos all hail Woz, Apple's best Steve
WOW. You actually made a video about old keyboards very interesting to watch with great production quality. Great vid LTT.
I was also born in 1986 and I just bought one of the keyboards off the secondary market and I love it!!!
Excellent production values! I remember the IBM keyboard, and thought they had a switch on the bottom that turned clicky on and off. I was in Explorers in the early 80's and we worked on the IBM mainframe terminals at Mellon bank in Pittsburgh, so that may be what I am thinking of.
You are talking about the beam spring which was a much older keyboard. They had a solenoid built in to make the clicking sound louder which you could switch on and off.
*Linus is 32.*
*FBI*
Open up
Parzival Mozart died at 28
Richard Boss Lee thats beethoven
no he's 64
You math real good
More history lesson videos please
Another good channel for this type of thing is Lazy Game Reviews, especially This playlist: czcams.com/play/PLbBZM9aUMsjEVZPCDMl-lXOx50rSBNFQC.html&pbjreload=10 Dear god i wish youtube had formatting options
2:52
The ORIGINAL run of the IBM "101 Enhanced" keyboard layout was 5 Pin DIN, as used on the IBM AT.
They didn't get PS/2 connectors for a couple-three years when IBM released the later PS/2 line.
Those AT-connector keyboards are hard to find today, since that connector has been out use on new machines for 3+ decades.
Goodbye Max
She did a great job on lighting. We will miss you. 👍👍👍
MaximumGamingGuy kind of hate it when people type R.I.P shes just moving on from LTT she aint dead.. i get the ideea but it still bothers me
She is dead to me
RIP == Rest in Philippines. She's on a beach tour with her boyfriend.
I get you, I'll change it ;p
She's in croatia
-"and, don't yellow with age." keyboard is yellowish by default anyways.
Than you need glasses lol. They are beige,
they are baidge
random zanakluar LMAO, “baidge”
@@thundereagle4130 - "Beige", aka, "yellowish white".
@@salembeats Where did you come up with that? If it were yellowish white, it'd be referred to as off-white or light (or pale) yellow. Read below, if you'd like to learn a little.
An accurate description:
"A light grayish brown or yellowish brown to grayish yellow".
To be honest, yellowish brown would be closest, at least in most cases. There are enough color names that relate to very similar colors, that naming the color of what you're looking at, without resorting to an accurately printed color chart, becomes a bit of a guessing game...that is, guessing what color something is supposed to be. Partly due, I'd say, to the variations in people's ability to see and differentiate colors. I'm one of the lucky ones...I'm an artist with "perfect color vision".
I love low profile keyboards, I fell in love with them when I got my first notebook. But I still remember the model M with a smile, they were tryuly awesome.
When I was young, I got to take some classes for kids at the local college. They had these hooked up to green screen terminals and the typing experience was absolute joy. Nothing comes anywhere close.
"more cheaper". This video lost all sophistication it was going for as soon as he said that lol
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I read this as soon as he said it XD
Nah, it got MORE sophistication! Lol
Geralt go back to Kaer Morhen.
It got me too.
Finally an extremely interesting and well produced LTT video. It's been a while.
Not to mention it's one of the few that isn't straight up clickbait.
Too bad the one who produced this actually quit her job.
Farewell Max :(
It feels like completely out of touch for me, since I'm used to his more "casual" made videos.
Alexander Raptakis I found it boring.
+WickedKirA Why did Max quit?
I'm now 19 and I used these old white key-boards when I was young. Such nostalgia.
my beloved model M which i left to my younger brother and it's still working fine while i work since 2005 on the BTC 8190a Black paired with the white keys of the Anubis Typhoon Wireless Multimedia Keyboard, looks like a gamer keyboard. the keys still look great and keep their colors.
I feel like Linus had a lot of fun making this video.
I think that's what makes it enjoyable to watch.
And he didn't drop anything either. The quality was definitely there. But that ending, with the nipples... xD
It’s strange seeing Linus talk about classic computing topics. Normally LGR, the 8 bit guy, and nostalgia nerd are what come to mind when I think of the topic.
It would have been funny if they went to LGR's studio to do a combi
You need to cover model F, and bream springs. Take a look at keystone keyboard project!
got mine a while back, and I loved it so much. it was great
Oh, I know that dude, it is Cave Johnson.
H E L L O I N V E S T O R S C A V E J O H N S O N H E R E
Yeah! take those lemons!
Welcome to Aperture Science, we sell peanut water and tech that is stolen from us by Black Mesa; Black Mesa... they can eat my bankrupt ass
@@thetrashmann8140 Wait, I though you sell curtains!?
@@alexharabara9260 There is a secret voice line at one of vitrified test chambers which has the line Peanut Water said by him and is a meme in the Portal community that's why I said Peanut Water
more stuff like this please :)
one of the people who worked on this video with linus left LTT recently sadly
No one else found this boring but me? I feel awkward.
This was Max's last vid
yeah this was a good mix of tech tip/ history lesson
Jan Ryan yeah awkward for you for sure
I did most my CAD training in CADAM on IBM 8050 terminals (in the late 90s, a good decade after IBM stopped making them), with those amazing terminal versions of the model M with the steel backplate. That's where I fell in love with them, and it honestly isn't possible to find a modern keyboard that comes close to the same experience
There's Unicomp
I use a
Dell Quietkey from 1990 and I'm loving it. It even matches my setup!👍
*Linus talks about Model M*
Well, there goes the price of these keyboards.
ahahaha the price has been gone for a while now... occasionally you can find good deals and clean them up a bit like I did but yeahhh. I really want to find a M13 or a Space Saver Model M but.. Those ones are just outrageous
Great job on this video Max! You will be missed.
ngl the older vids slap a bit harder than the new ones, i love the slow paced educational vibe :)
I was falling asleep but 3:45 woke me up! I thought Daleks were attacking! 😆
And here, I have a Model M that looks NOTHING like any shown here. It has the DIN cable, non-removable, but the indicator lights. It has full F1-F24 keys in 2 rows and 2 columns of macro keys to the left of the main keys as well. Don't have the room to make it my daily driver right now, but it's niiiice.
This was a fantastic video, btw.
That sounds like a 5250 keyboard. I used to use those attached to dumb (5250) green screen terminals connected to the IBM System36 and IBM AS/400 (now IBM/i). A keyboard made to be thrown down on the desk, or slapped around the PHB's head, in frustration and still work, lol. Built like a tank and a unique typing feel; although, that said, I've found the cherry MX blue (I think, thats what mine are) are damn close in feel noise and typing effort but I do miss the dual row of function keys as I still work on IBM/i using a 5250 emulator.
I *_think_* there were some "Model M for terminals" (aka Model M-122) keyboards too, ie. they were used on things like very complex cash registers in airports, or programmable robot work machines in factories ... sounds like what he has.
Alternatively, it's a Model F-122
Congratulations on 100k!
I had that model at work once, its the 'server' version, also with an additional 5th key between the arrow keys. My colleagues where all like 'wtf is that thing' and I just 'try typing on it'. clickety-clack
When you connect that to a modern windows pc what do the F13-f24 keys do?
6:30 is misleading. Lexmark kept making buckling spring Model Ms throughout the entire time they had the contract. They even expanded the line and made multiple different versions of the Model M (I have one with a split spacebar). They did make a cheaper version of the Model M that used rubberdomes but it's only 1 of many models they manufactured. The model he shows at this part in the video is in fact a rubberdome. MOST Lexmark Model Ms are buckling springs not rubberdomes.
6:55 Lexmark didn't drop their keyboard division by choice. they lost their contract with IBM because IBM couldn't compete with the cheaper prices of other keyboards. lexmark only manufactured the keyboards for IBM. they had no say in the matter.
I think that the rubber dome variant was specifically created for quieter environments. It may even have been called the quiet option.
I have a few of the 2nd generation model M's in the original boxes, in my garage. They have been sitting in there for a couple decades.
This was a very nice episode to watch. Stylish is the word. Congratulations!
I have been waiting for the right LTT video to post this comment on.
This is the one.
Linus, you continue to surprise us. The team that you have assembled at Linus Media Group has proven over and over again that tech videos can be more than just a person, a device, and a camera. Each video has a production quality that is of the highest measure, and it pays off. Your team has found harmony between abstract creativity AND clarity. What is the result of this?
*Easily digestible information, mixed with genuine entertainment.*
Your channel has a REAL personality. Each video is like meeting a new person-my theory is that you provide your employees with enough creative freedom to add their own flare. You have an obvious respect for the creative professionals that you employ, and I truly admire that.
Linus, you will forever be the pinnacle of Tech Videos for me. Please, continue providing us with unique content, as I stare at my home feed, waiting for a new LTT video to appear.
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You should be higher up.
Unfortunately people drop more likes on 'Who's watching this in 20XX" and "Awesome!" crap than such well-structured praise.
Cringe
Voffman what is so cringy?
There is a reason why LTT has almost 10 million subs. The love and production value of the videos are just amazing. High Quality content on CZcams is rare nowadays. But LTT is in the top 5 %. Please keep up the great work you all do! Cheers from Germany.
LeBawsski Gaming Late reply but thats because they have an entire team dedicated to getting those videos out and making sure its juicy enough for us content consumers to watch
Doesn’t change the fact he makes good videos
Plus this one video was the last project by a former LTT employee called "Max" and they poured their heart and soul into this apparently
Felt like I was watching the tech version of Good Eats with Alton Brown diving into the history and nuances...well done, Linus B-)
I really enjoy the level of anoraks that were deployed during this video 👍
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Dave L we got a bad ass!
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Linus reviewing new ThinkPads, restoring old ones and talking about IBM keyboards? What a time to be alive!
I have this keyboard. It's great. I have a variety of mechanical keyboards with Cherry Brown and Cherry Blue switches. I sometimes switch between them. But for straight typing, I prefer the Unicomp buckling spring.
Haven’t seen Linus this intense on a subject in a while. Kinda missed it. This was relaxing to watch
Well done Max! Hope to have you back one day!! :-D
Two words: "more cheaper"
As soon as I read this he said that
Must be a Canadian thing.
@@VoidHxnter same wth
@@CallanElliott it is not a Canadian thing, we have poorly educated people here too..
@@v05555 No, I was more thinking about regional quirks, like how here in Ireland some people say 'I was sitted'.