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Toyota Tundra Pedal Commander Installation & Review | Trail Grid Pro
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- čas přidán 16. 08. 2024
- In this Install & Review segment, Bryan installs a Pedal Commander in his 2021 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro and then goes for a drive and give his thoughts regarding how it stacks up against the stock throttle response.
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My '07 Tundra with 5.7L came from the factory with instant pedal response.
Saaaweeeet! That's great to hear! We appreciate ya and thanks for watching!
I had the same 2007 Tundra instant pedal response… if it hadn’t been in an accident, I would still be driving it. now I have a 2018 tundra 4.6 and it lags!
I’m about to purchase this. Thanks for your review.
08 tundra 5.7 and the pedal response was mind boggling especially with tow/haul engaged. Newer Tundra's went away with the aggressive linear ECU for fuel saving but I miss the older ecu's
@nxtgen2b416 yeah i recently switched from 2010 5.7 to 2020 and pedal feels sluggish. Feel like old pedal had more spring to it, like if it was throttle by wire.
@@flavier55lol same here sold my 08 tundra and bought a 2020 crew max. I was honestly disappointed in the throttle response with the newer models.
This thing ROCKS! I’ve had the PC now for a week, the city mode is perfection. Amazing how this works with the Tundra. The Velcro would not hold on the plastic however I hid the unit behind the console. I downloaded the app, operate thru my phone.
Woohoo! So happy to hear! We appreciate you!
Tow/Haul button = Sport +
Smiles per gallon, I love that! 🤘😎🤘
Yessssssss!!!
Mine arrived yesterday. Installed in 3 minutes. No need for Velcro or mounting the device. I put it in the open space behind the console. Routing it through the steering column will complicate removal when you need service. Plus I will use Bluetooth exclusively.
I settled on city +2 for everyday driving. Much better throttle response. And eliminated my biggest gripe with the TRD exhaust…the helicopter drone when the stupid throttle mapping would force an up shift before it was needed in an attempt to save fuel. Very happy with this. It transformed my driving experience.
Awesome news! Great suggestion regarding the module!! Appreciate your great advice!
I was thinking the same thing about tucking it in the console and not using velcro. Need an easy removal technique. And If the dealer sees a velcro pad, they'll ask what up?
Just installed into my 2018 Tundra.. what a take off!!!
Easy install too (plug and play)
Thanks for the video!
Woohoo! So happy to hear!!
Very responsive I just upgraded the valve body and the transmission and put a lockout switch for the converter so I could lock my converter out used for breaking down hills I have a 2020 tundra pro live on the road full-time thanks for the video be blessed
That’s awesome! Sounds like a great rig!!
That’s hilarious !! That’s exactly where I put mine then after I installed it I wish I could’ve positioned it higher.. I almost crashed into my neighbors house throttle was super sensive!!
haha, oh no!!
Great and accurate video, however, I did purchase my Tundra TRD Pro with MPG in mind. So far averaging 16mpg.
Thanks for your feedback! That’s a great average MPG for a Pro!! Well done!
You mean you didn't purchase it for MPG?
@@shs646 lol, I guess.
Great trucks they are a little thirsty though.I wouldn’t drive anything else these days.but if you want to make horsepower you have to burn gas.the more you can pump to the cylinders the faster you go.these modifiers will make you happy in the seat but you won’t drive past many filling stations lol
Mpg in mind...
I got mine for my 2016 tundra 5.7 crewmax 4x4 today and installed it..Now let me first say .I have had 3 mustang GT'S 3 , 2 stroke motorcross bikes as well as a 1986 Kawasaki 250 tecate 2 stoke 3 wheeler...one of the fasrtest 3 wheelers ever made..I LOVE TORQUE..I put this thing on and hit city mode level 4 to start and barely touched the gas and my brand new 20 inch cooper mudders smoked tires just backing up..... I hit the main highway and it literally feels like any of my GT'S during takeoff .. The torque is amazing..also turn off your ABS for more fun...Be careful because the weight on my Chuck TAYLOR SHOES SHOT ME BACKWARDS.. I personally like city 4 but try them all ..IT FREAKIN WORKS..ALSO IT CLEARLY SAYS NOT TO CHANGE MODES WHILE DRIVING...MUST COME TO A COMPLETE STOP OR IT CAN MESS IT UP..Stop before you change a setting...also spray your pedal with wd40 to clean and tell me im wrong.....Its bad ass
Thanks for your awesome feedback! So pumped you’re happy with it!! 🙌
@@TrailGridPro love it....thanks...people need to understand its not a CHIP like an accelerator chip for the engine,,It's strictly throttle response...PERIOD...Back in the day I could literally spray WD 40 on my 74 camaro 350 and it made a weird difference ..loosening it up...thanks again bro for a great product
Turn off the ABS LOL classic
I need it to slow down my truck. When I'm at a stop sign and I press the gas it feels like the truck thinks I'm going to race
ECO mode will do that for ya!
@@TrailGridPro did you ever try this thing to reduce throttle sensitivity? My tundra is like a bucking bull in the city.
Good review. Thank you for hitting all the details.
It's absolutely our pleasure! Thanks for your kind words!
Great video! Wondering if you guys have had any updates on long term use on the Pedal Commander. I’m in the process of buying a 2021 Sequoia TRD and thinking of getting it for it.
Thanks for your time.
We run them in all of our Toyotas and haven't had any issues over the past few years! It's a must have!
@@TrailGridPro Perfect.
Thanks for the reply!
Just for anyone interested - I have a 21 Tundra TRD Pro - I could not get the pedal commander to not throw codes. Fobs super far away, waiting with the door open, everything. No matter what I did, after install, as soon I fired the truck up - dash lit up like a Christmas tree. Check engine, pre-collision system going off, traction control light, etc. It isn't that big of a deal to undo, you just pull the battery terminal for 10minutes or so and remove the pedal commander and the truck goes back to normal. I did this probably 12 times and always got the same result.
Not saying you shouldn't buy it, just saying that it didn't work for me, and if you do indeed have some issues, undoing the codes it throws is a 10minute in your driveway affair.
Hmm, sorry to hear that was your experience! Clearly that didn't happen during out installation and we've installed the Pedal Commander in many 2021's and haven't had that issue. I'd swap out your Pedal Commander for a new one - sounds like something is probably off with it because they typically work perfect!
Maybe you got a faulty one?
My '22 4Runner Limited just asked if I can get one of these...I think I will oblige.Btw great video.
Lol, I definitely suggest you listen to your Limited.
I heard, don’t recall where, that you were supposed to stop before changing drive levels. True or false?
Thank you for your response.
That's not a bad best practice! When we change while driving it's not while the throttle is pressed.
Put that on a shirt! Lol “smiles per gallon” 😂
Hahaha! Solid idea! I like it!
I have a 2021 Tundra TRD Pro. One thing that annoys me is when I’m driving in school zones (20mph) it has a shift hang or something. Just feels weird at those low speeds. I wonder if pedal commander would fix that issue.
It absolutely will.
What if you change it to eco in those speed zones?
Yeah. Same. Does it suddenly feel like it down shifts when you let off the gas? Its downshifting to brake. Also a slight grinding feeling in the pedal when going slow around a parking lot
"Smile per gallon" 😆
Haha, it’s a thing!
Curious how much better eco mode is then without the pedal commander. Would it be worth installing it to get better fuel mileage?
Absolutely, we save on average 2 to 4 miles per gallon in Eco mode depending on driving conditions, i.e. in the city, on the highway, etc.
Does it lose "peppiness" when running in Eco? Is it worse than without the Pedal Commander, or is it still better, but increases mpg too?
@@madonnaanderson6488 It's like hitting the tow haul button for extra power and worse gas mileage. I'll try it if I can get one in CA....?
I thought I read that you weren't supposed to change modes unless you were at a complete stop though? I just got mine today. Will be installing shortly
Hey, thanks for watching! You just want to make sure you don’t want to change modes while accelerating. Hope your install goes great!
I think you’re suppose to come to a complete stop before you switch
Just as long as you don't have the throttle pressed, you can change.
I was told by the padel commander themselves pec-pc07 is compatible with my older model chevy colorado 3.5 i went through all the steps with the installation. As soon as i turn on the truck check engine light goes on with out even driving.they even guide me through it and same problem but they still say its compatible with my year make and model man im stuck at this point may have to get a refund.
PC are great people - if you bought from them I'm sure they will help you out!
Starting in 2019, toyota reprogrammed the tundra. Which is why the bullydog tuners and others do not work on the 2019-2021 tundras. Wonder if this will work on my 2019 tundra 4x4 crewmax
It works! We are running it on a 2021 Tundra in this video!
@@TrailGridPro sweet, I may need to order one. Comparing the pedal commander to the Banks pedal monster.
Seems more like a promotional video rather than a review. Any DTCs, How does it affect fuel economy and is it the same as if you were to step on the throttle a bit harder.
We hear ya, but the PC is still in both out Tundra and 4Runner and we love it. You definitely can’t replicate the throttle response you get from the Pedal Commander by stepping on the pedal harder. Give it a shot, there’s zero risk. You have 65 days to test drive the product and if you don’t like it for any reason you can return it for a full refund: trailgridpro.com/pedal-commander-shop/
@@TrailGridPro I guess I’ll give it a shot since it’s risk free anyways. Thanks for the link.
@@TrailGridPro Like most people, I'm not buying it until that answer is honestly provided.
I can sell you a pinwheel for your antenna and tell you it will increase MPGs and power with a return return policy, but that doesn't make you think it will work, right?
Can you also run a tuner along with this? I want to get a bully dog programmer/tuner also.
We've never tested the two in combination, so we can't say with any degree of certainty. Sorry about that!
I'm thinking of getting one ,would four wheel drive work well with it too? Thanks looks like a very good product.
Yep, we use 4WD with our Pedal Commanders and it's pretty sweet!
Ha. Gets passed by school bus. Kidding. Great video.
Hahahaha, those school buses are fast around here!! 🙌
Question - Everything I see about the pedal commander is for "instant response" or "snappy response". We have a 2012 Tundra 5.7L and I find the accelerator pedal is too touchy when we launch from a stop, the truck is too digital, meaning even when we try to launch smoothly it will jerk and dump anything from the dash console; it is hard to launch smoothly in out stock Tundra Limited 5.7. I am wondering if using this in city with a low response setting would help the truck launch "smoother" without becoming a slug. We also tow a travel trailer which I use the trailer mode that is built into the truck, would you recommend using the pedal commander in place of or with the trailer mode?
So, all good questions. We found the stock throttle response to be slow that doesn’t have a jerk to it which is why we added the Pedal Commander to give it more of a throttle response. It’s interesting that you find yours to be not very smooth as stock. It’s certainly possible the Pedal Commander could level it out - but from our experience with Toyota’s and PC’s the addition of the PC gives it a quicker respond in City, Sport and Sport+ and a slower response in Eco which saves MPG’s. Sorry, not sure if that’s helpful but that’s our experience!
Like you said, City on the lowest setting or even Eco mode could possibly help with the jerky launch.
When towing, you could turn the PC off or use it along with the built in Trailer mode.
@@clee3352 very true!
Mark i just upgraded from a 2012 Tundra Crewmax to the 2018 Tundra Crewmax, both of which are an SR5 and the throttle response on the 2018 is WAY different. My 2012 was much more instantaneous, the 2018 feels sluggish in comparison. They must have made a programming adjustment along the way. I just ordered the pedal commander for my 2018 because I miss that feeling but I would assume that the eco or city mode would probably help alleviate some of that snappiness.
@@theschmiller I had an 08 SR5, 12 Platinum, and now have a 2020 TRD Pro. The first two were like jackrabbits when you touch the gas. The TRD is much less snappy.
What setting should be used when towing a 5k camper? Trying to decide if it will help when towing on long trips.
Well, we haven't towed a camper with ours yet but I would just test each mode and see what feels the best.
If you're going to do regular towing like I am, I would suggest having the Magnuson supercharger installed like I did on my 2016 TRD Pro.
I need a pedal commander for the 4 runner.
We have one in our 4Runner and love it! We have a 4Runner video as well here: czcams.com/video/AhUmKp9N1gA/video.html
@@TrailGridPro I watched it. Thank you. I drive highway six from Spanishfork to Price (Utah) regularly to see my granddaughter and her parents. It is about 40 miles of canyon driving. The 4.0 is a beast and does awesome. But the throttle response of this amazing vehicle is awful. My first Toyota (driven one for years at work).
Having hunted, wheeled, rock crawled, built rigs...I wanted a 4 runner for my aging bones. I have wanted one since I first saw them in 1984. I knew I would own one. Lol
Anyway, thank you for the video.
@@stout_tossme7541 I also wanted a new 4Runner most of my life! I feel ya there! Thanks a ton for watching! We appreciate ya very much!
Just what I’m looking for in my 2021 1794 with just at 200 miles lol
Did this throw any codes or can the dealer find that a tuner was ever added? I’d hate to void warranty!
Also, you’ve had this installed for 3+ months; still happy with purchase and how’s mpg and performance?
Yep, completely happy with it! We’ve taken the vehicle in for service at Toyota and the Pedal Commander stayed in the vehicle when we brought it in.
How does this compare to hitting the tow haul button because that is pretty noticeable
Night and day difference. Pedal Commander allows you to dial in the exact throttle response you prefer for any driving environment. Totally custom.
@@TrailGridPro ok cool, thanks
I'm curious to add to the question from Ewolf5150 .... before you installed this PC, did you try driving with both the Tow/Haul mode on and additionally also holding down the traction control button for a few seconds to disengage/override all the "granny mode" stuff? I have a supercharged tundra and I have found doing this is a night and day difference to the truck's get up a go response. Problem I have when driving like this is getting good traction to the back wheels. The backend easily breaks loose because of all the torque going to a light backend. I believe all these traction safety features that Toyota has on by default is what really holds the truck's performance back. I noticed you were driving in the rain and it didn't appear like you backend ever broke loose. What are your thoughts? Adding a PC to a supercharged tundra would this work?
@@midnight4u I’m also thinking of installing to my supercharged truck. Did you do it? What’s it like?
Will the Pedal Commander work on a 2012 Tundra? It’s a 4.6 L.
Yep, here's the PC for a 2011: trailgridpro.com/products/pedal-commander-tundra
Push the “tow mode” button and save yourself hundreds. This peddle commander is notorious for causing issues, people have regularly stated their throttle is either inop until it’s unplugged or that it sticks which could cause serious harm or death. Don’t buy it
Thanks for commenting! We've had these in our company trucks for years with no issues, as well as many happy customers who love them! If the install procedure is followed correctly, it's very unlikely to see issues with this unit!
I've heard it throw the dash lights on and cause the vehicle to go into limp mode especially in high speed. What could be the cause of this?
Supposedly it can do that due to improper installation (not following directions) or possibly from changing settings while moving, giving it gas, or changing speed control settings. Hopefully you found your answer by now. 👍✌️ One more thing...supposedly there was a glitch with app control causing that. Not sure if they fixed it yet, but hopefully.
Good question! We have only heard reports of that when the instruction procedure is not followed properly.
Thanks for posting this content. Do you anyone running this with a Magnussen S/C fitted too?
Thanks for your super kind words! We actually aren’t aware of anyone running it with a super charger! Not saying it’s not out there - we’re just unaware.
Not recommended if your tundra is supercharged. Just add Quantum solenoids for both exhaust and intake. You’ll feel the gear change more efficiently. Pedal commander helps your throttle response but doesn’t add any HP so when you hit the top end, the truck flattens out. The PC does help if you need to pass on a lane change. I used the PC before I added my supercharger and the best setting to me was the Sport +3. Supercharger is very expensive but adding 150HP is a big difference from just improving the throttle.
I have a TRD supercharger and I'm a little hesitant purchasing this device. I've read it could possibly mess up fuel/air ratio and clog up pump faster. Decisions, decisions.
Great video! 2020 TRD Pro here. Any idea if it will void the warranty? I read where you took it to the dealership with it installed, but that doesn't exactly answer the question. Any insight you can provide is a appreciated!
Thanks for your note! According to Pedal Commander it will not. We just shared that we've both taken our vehicle to the dealership for warranty work and it was all good.
The 5.7 is so sluggish it's embarrassing. Really hoping this helps.
It'll def help!
Not as bad as my 15 SS Camaro I had. Would fall on its face.
Does it stay in whichever mode once truck is restarted? Wife will definitely not want to redo everytime
Yep, it sure does! The Pedal Commander stays in the same mode you left it when restarting!
@@TrailGridPro That's awesome. Thanks 😊
@@kevindelk Absolutely! It’s our pleasure!
I heard ya needbto be at a stop to change the setting or it can mess things up is this true
Pedal Commander informed us that as long as you’re not engaging the throttle at the same time, you can change modes while moving.
Wonder if this would make a '17 Titan V8 gas roar?
Our hunch is it definitely would!
So what’s the best sensitivity on a 2015 tundra? I just ordered one
It honestly totally depends on your preferences! I'd test several when you get it and you'll find exactly what you're looking for! We tend to stay in City mode a lot.
So it’s just throttle response right??don’t gain any hp?
Yep, correct … just throttle response. No HP.
OK....I have a question if the pedal commander doesn't void your warranty why is everybody removing it when they take their truck in for service>
That's a good question! We're not sure!
How do u guys feel about the commander with the 5.7 Flex fuel version?
Haven't tested it but we don't see any reason why it wouldn't be awesome!
I’m running to sprint booster
Oh awesome! How do you like it?
are you able to get a module so when i got to manual mode it actually changes gears like i want it to?? EX for when i want to drive in eco mode i switch to 2 gear at a stop so i can keep low rpms but it really doesn't. Then when im driving at max 55 i would like to switch to 6th gear or 4 even if im doing 35 to keep revs down but the computer wont let me. It still switches when it feels like it.
Hmm, we actually haven’t tried that in manual mode. Is that what you’re experiencing?
@@TrailGridPro so the pedal commander is not an issue. I wanted to find out if you guys can create a module were you can actually shift gears when you’re in manual mode. The main issue I’m having is no matter what gear I put it in, the computer still somehow in control and won’t put it in gear right away when I try to shift let’s say from 2nd to third doing 30. This is more for a off-road and eco-mode necessity that Toyota didn’t have the decency to properly make the manual mode and was wondering if you guys can look into it. Thank you in advance
@@Gh0stM2 Ohhhh, gotcha! Thanks for clarifying! Well, it sounds like you have a pretty cool idea there! I’m not sure if any company has that in the works! Maybe you should develop it and make millions, lol! 🙌💰
so this is good for Sequioa too, right? 5.7 2008
PC does sell a Sequoia version!
does it affect mpg?
ECO will save you MPG's and the rest will cost you a few MPG's.
your not suppose to change settings well on throttle
That is correct!
I've heard it on other channels and it does sound like a V8. I think you all are going to be very surprise.
Appreciate you watching and commenting!
@@TrailGridPro Huge Tundra fan here...I'm currently a 2017 limited TRD off road owner.
@@goldrunnersound Awesome! Love it!
Is the app necessary?
Nope, you can control everything on the Pedal Commander module itself!
Ya, read the manual. Don’t change settings when moving. Also, why aren’t you using Bluetooth?
Thanks for watching! Our contacts at Pedal Commander suggested not to change settings while accelerating, but while moving was perfectly okay. We don’t change settings very often in real life, so changing settings on the module is easy enough for us, however you’re right / the Bluetooth capability is pretty awesome!
Just save your money. Nothing the Tow/Haul Ass button can't take care of.
Thanks for watching and for your comment! We totally understand it’s not for everyone! We appreciate ya!
LOL, if you bought a TRD, Fks mpg love it
🙌🙌
the white suv was trying so hard to keep up poor buddy
LOL!
Heat will not hold it in place. Velcro comes off',
Totally hear you and in most cases that's what we've experienced as well! But, believe it or not, in 2.5 years that I've had the Pedal Commander in my vehicle (4Runner) that velcro is still holding strong! Thanks again for watching!
Could it mess up the engine or transmission long term??
Thanks for your question! We’re not aware of any long term issues.
Loved the product but eventually during a travel it effected my computer and had me stranded in the middle of nowhere in Az. Dealership did detect it but kept a hush hush if I paid out of pocket to avoid getting my warranty tossed out the window. $2500 later I said fuck pedal commander. All it does us make your throttle more sensitive.
Yikes, so sorry to hear that happened! Ours have been smooth sailing for a long time!
@@TrailGridPro yeah it was great to have. Had mine for ten months. I would highly recommend not using the pedal commander during long travels with the cruise control on. My only guess why it could've affected my computer and crankshaft sensor.
@@DL-vt2gi Ah, appreciate the heads up. We haven’t used it on long drives with cruise control … so we haven’t tested that yet.
How did the dealership detect it?
@@scottrempel7243 A deep diagnostics performed by the head mechanic found it when the regular shop diagnostic machine didn't catch it. The Pedal commander absorbed too much power and caused interference with the computer. A problem associated mostly with Dodge.
Or... you can just press Tow/Haul🙃
Yep! Thanks for watching!
Not the same and some aren’t equipped
Shouldn't do that. No joke unless the weights there
@@Northof25A??
Tow haul
TOW HAUL!
My clip doesnt unclip that easy smh
That’s common, it’s not just you! You can use a small flat head screwdriver or panel tool to help you compress the tab.
@@TrailGridPro Got it off thanks so much, the video was very helpful!
@@imrichbtch1995 Great news!!
For better throttle just push the Tow/Haul and your now hauling ass
That may work but we love the affect the Pedal Commander has!
😊s per gallon!!! 😂😂😂
LOL!
No sirve si quieres gastar menos en gas comprate un carrito de 4 no compres un tundra
¡Gracias por ver y por tu comentario! ¡Te apreciamos!
Which is your exact model honestly everyone should buy yours
I'm going to be honest with you. I have one. I can't stand it even in City mode with no pluses. You're getting like 3 mi per gallon less. It's kind of crazy
To each their own I suppose! Thanks for the feedback!
You shouldn’t be changing model while driving
Thanks for the tip! Pedal Commander instructions state that you shouldn't change modes while accelerating. As long as you don't have your foot on the pedal it's okay to change modes while moving.
any difference in gas mileage ?
ECO mode will save you MPG's. City, Sport and Sport+ are all a faster throttle response and result is less MPG's.