Ornstein Truth On Tuchel & Man Utd: INEOS In Position To Make Fully Informed Ten Hag Decision
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- čas přidán 8. 05. 2024
- There's so much noise around Thomas Tuchel, so I think it's time we had a chat as a community about what's being said.
Join Sam live as we'll discuss Tuchel, transfers, free transfers, more Southgate nonsense and unfortunately the upcoming game against Arsenal.
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00:00 Intro
02:00 Last night's Champions League
04:00 Thomas Tuchel
08:00 David Ornstein on Thomas Tuchel
12:00 If Gareth Southgate is United manager, what is the game model?
15:00 Answering comments
17:00 Inside Man Utd's Axis of power
25:00 United still a top world club
27:00 Answering comments
30:00 Value of teams
36:00 Transfer news
42:00 We need someone willing to play second fiddle to Højlund
46:00 Match officials for the FA Cup final
47:00 Young player of the season nominees
50:00 Answering comments/questions
54:00 Wrapping up
Thank you.. this really helps when watching the stream late💯
We would be lucky to get Tuchel at this point. WE CANNOT KEEP ETH. Please Inoes.
@@mainelettuce9040Tuchel a disaster couldn't win German league knocked out the German cup by minnos falls out with players and bosses no wonder Psg Chelsea now Munich getting shot of him
I find it hard to believe that when Ten Hag came in, everyone was in agreement that it was going to be a 3,4,5 year process. Now, after only 2 years we are going to change it all again. I genuinely fear for this once great club 😔
Where's the progress after 2 years??
You know, for a long term project to be successful you have to show some progress and results be it in sports or works or anything else that project will be cancelled. After two years, with -3 gd, breaking all sorts of bad records, can you call that a progress? And please don't come with injury excuse. We have been outplayed by every team and even struggling against relegation teams. Players as well as the manager need to go.
@@KevinMcGee-qg6hmProgress isn't linear. Fergie finished 11th after coming 2nd in the previous season in the late '80s and somehow he got to stay and implement his vision for the club. You know how that turned out later on.
We're now witnessing INEOS' plans for reorganising and restructuring the club so we can finally function like a modern club. Will that be successful? Maybe or maybe not. Will it crash and burn? Maybe or maybe not. We just don't know yet. At least we're heading in some direction, and I truly hope this benefits ten Hag massively in the long run.
@@ImmortaL7294 Great point. People need to realise that there will be bumps on the road. Our club has been floundering in the last decade, hence any progress is gonna be painful, and it's gonna take some time to undo 10 years of regression.
@@nilanjanmahinder5431 I agree with you about players, just don’t agree with you about the manager. I have a real worry that if United let Ten Hag go he will be a proper success at another club, United have egg on their face yet again. What would have happened if United had listened to all the fans wanting Ferguson sacked back in his earlier years? Everybody wants instant success these days, I find it absurd that managers don’t get the proper time and backing that they used to get
No manager is perfect, he's had a few questionable decisions, but the crap he's had to deal with since he came in is absolutely unbelievable Sam mate ❤
Madrid shows how hard work and fitness wins things not just skill
Excellent point
But it’s not like they don’t buy the best players in the world every year. Yeah they work hard but hard work in training doesn’t win you anything if your players are piss poor, it works both ways.
Fair point. It's not really a Galactico squad like they're used to. But those players play for the badge and leave everything on the pitch. Ancelotti really is an exceptional manager
And help from the refs at the end come one Madrid cheat all the time but everybody’s scared of them
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard, in reply to the people against what the OP said, like we haven't bought players that haven't been classed as some of the best I the world what RM have different to us, they work hard above anything else.
Thank you for pointing out Mark Goldridge. He always puts out controversial headlines to get more clicks.
You clearly don't know a thing about him. He's pro not changing the manager am not his fan am just someone who sees all these channels and Sam is the best together btw zero toxicity
Yess today it’s ten hag in news, and a hour later “TEN HAG TO BE SACKED ???” So annoying channel honestly
@@a1a300 Agree but Flying Pig United for raw passion and belly laughs needs a place on the podium.
@@a1a300 he isn't talking about the content, he's talking about the clickbait headlines. You're both correct
I mean everybody does clickbait . Gold bridge is just an easy target because he has so much following than these guys
Wilfred Ndidi and Tosin on free transfers would be good business. Low risk signings, both with Premier league pedigree. Both are quick and strong. Neither would demand massive wages either
Common sense like that means no no to Man Utd board as always😂
@@phanhuyduc2395 let's wait and see. Should be an interesting summer 😂
I can't get too excited about which players we sign. More concerned in who we can clear out!!!🇾🇪🇾🇪🇾🇪
There are reports in the portuguese media that Manchester united has sent representatives to interview Ruben Amorim, regarding the possibility of him managing united next season.
Vini is indeed a joy to watch. But if he does that in the EPL, these "pundits" will call it disrespect and all sorts.
I’m almost convinced these pundits don’t have a clue anymore
Iterally were dissing him last night one trick pony blah blah
Can you imagine Jamie Carragher if Vini spoke to someone after the match had finished??? “EMBARRASSING”
“GET OFF THE PITCH”
If he can't win the Bundesliga with Kane and Kim I wouldn't have him.
Kim was dropped in January when Dier signed dodged a bullet with him he was dreadful
And if United can't win the league with Jose, van gaal and Ten Haag, oh and 1.5 billion no one will. Snob fans
@@KevinMcGee-qg6hm Tuchel has shown, just like Pochetino, that at the crunch times he makes the wrong calls. Not snobbish, just observant. Those managers you mentioned failed, in the end, because of Woodward incompetence supported by the Glazers.
@@richyclubsport5155 Kim was one of Serie A's best CBs. Maybe the new Bayern coach had something to do with it? 😉
@@davidmcconnon2800 didn't he win the champions league. Made all the right decisions there didn't he?
People that want the manager all I say to him is things were never gonna get any better when we had back north left back and our central defense midfielder. The only decent central defensive midfield has to play Centre back where his lack of discipline and play like a midfield and we have three young young attackers upfrontexperience attack us doesn’t surprise me. The manager is just sticking into his philosophy so come next year the players already have it muscle memory into them.😊 and with a better defense and a better midfield, he will be able to close those gaps better
The word you were looking for to describe Vini is "CRISP" man's crispy
Don’t see the point in the offside flag when we have the technology to make the decision in a matter of seconds.
Much love and respect from jamaica to you Sam keep up the awesome work
Much love from Nairobi Kenya to you Sam ...always love your content brother....Blessings
Thuram.... Didn't you also crave for Amrabat? That worked well!!
It’s going to be hard for Ineos to rebuild this squad at least three transfer windows in my opinion required
Jealousy gets you nowhere pal 😂
Tuchel getting slated by media and Munich fans for his tactical subs last night
I don't get the Tuchel links. He doesn't seem to fit anything we're looking for in a manage
United fans are such fucking snobs. The club has been in dire straits for 10 years and you're snubbing another manager who has actually won major trophies. Lol. We deserve what we get
But Tenhag does? The 2 managers are on different level
Great video Sam,
I personally think all this Gareth Southgate talk's a potential smokescreen for Graham Potter, he's worked with Dan Ashworth before at Brighton and they performed well together. I do think we'll be going more down the English personnel route too...they might even be delaying the announcement til Ashworth's signed on the dotted............................ line.
🤣🤣🤣 it's actually funny yeah but not funny as we can not be talking about tuchel at this point if rebuild I will stand with ten hag and my support is for him I know he has a passion for united and want things to work I won't take because of our bad situation now to right him of all united fan should have learn a lesson by now that manager hasn't really been the issue but structure, mentality, standard which has been lacking not just on the pitch but massively off the pitch
I have little faith in getting players in and less in getting this piss out
Most of the piss we have left are Erik’s singings and already we want loads of them sold and let’s not pretend Dan ashworth is that good at singings he isn’t he signed a player with a massive ban coming and Erik will still have some say on singings
All I want is a manager that drops players that don’t perform. We’ve seen players that are consistently underperforming that get picked every week
We don't have enough quality squad depth to drop players that don't perform. We don't have gamechangers on the bench; who do you bring on when Fernandes, Hojlund, Rashford, Mainoo, Martinez, Varane etc. underperforms? It's not fair to keep bringing youth team players into the squad and ask them to finish top 4 in the league.
@@mikester4896 exactly. The fact Garnarcho, Hojland and Mainoo are always playing every single game just shows how thin our depth is. They should be the ones coming on, not starting!
There’s no excuse for Antony not getting dropped though. Ten Hag refuses to drop him.
Fans just want to talk rubbish. Mikester4896 made an excellent point, we don't have the squad depth. When you don't have the tools and you have a lot of injuries, all these things don't help. Ten Hag is doing way better than some think.
@@C0WB0Yv ten Haag has made mistakes this season, those that back him fully recognise this. 1. He has his favourites 2. His in game management can be puzzling 3. His substitutions are often too late 4. Player ID is questionable 5. Stubborn stubborn stubborn 6. And more.... That said, he's still the best option for United right now. Ineos identify the players and the playing philosophy - he gets on with it. That's how it worked at Ajax. If that doesn't work, then he goes. Absolutely no to Tuchel
Thanks Sam you have the most positive channel about Man Utd
Tuchel is a great coach, but he won't survive the first year of disrespect that will come his way as the Utd manager. I mean Ten Hag has taken it all chin up standing tall. Tuchel is a bit more of an emotional guy and he'll let it get to him. Whatever the case Utd is a multi-year project, I knew the media was going to forget that but its embarrassing that our fans have as well.
Getting rid of ten Hag would be a monumental error! Taking a Bayern reject for their target yet we're supposed to be competing with them...
He's effectively gone. Results will see him off. We've got the gooners, toon and citizens coming up (and Brighton) and they've all been thumping teams and we're poor (you could say) so we're heading for at least one pasting maybe more. The clamour to get rid of him after that will be deafening.
He’s not Bayern’s target lol. Flick is huge favourite for that job.
@@richardjones8699 It depends on what INEOS want to do, not the results. We cannot just sack another manager based on purely results, they'll collect the facts and decide where they want to take the club, if it means sacking Ten Hag then at least they've done it based on a plan than just 'bad results'. Imagine if Arsenal sacked Arteta after his first/second season, they wouldn't be title contenders like they are now.
@@mikester4896 Of course they will. His position will be untenable soon. Indeed, he's realistically not far off that already. And I'm not sure why you're championing Arteta. He's one one trophy in almost 5 years at the gooners - and that was with another managers players.
@@richardjones8699Doesn't matter. He's built up a squad that is challenging for the title to the very last game of the season. And that's after two really poor and one mediocre season. Arsenal obviously have a working model and have done something right in keeping Arteta...
First sort out the management then think about manager and players.
Beleive or not Ten Hag is the best for us .
Just need long term of works.
SIR Alex became Legend because of his long term work.
Changing the couch every two years worth then suecide
He can’t coach he’s terrible he had a fully fit squad last season that was actually a better squad and he still got battered loads of times he can’t cope
I would be devastated if we appoint Southgate
I would like to give ETH another seasons but please please play the players to their strengths and play those that can play as a team and play with passions
Broke my heart when you reeled off all them player 😢😢 lol
American clubs probably have high valuations due to financial health, probably more conservative spending as opposed to the debt levels of European clubs. Also, growth areas tend to have higher premium on valuations. One would assume interest and popularity of 'soccer' is picking up in America and there's potential to be as big as the NFL someday.
Ndidi and tosin could be good signings.
I think that saying Man United's manager role is one of the biggest jobs in football is a bit naive, especially without Champions League football, and it's new format from next season. It is a big job, but United is unfortunately far behind the top clubs in Europe in a lot of areas. This is the truth about players as well. Without the big salaries, players like Casemiro or Varane wouldn't have come to the club in the first place. The aura that was around the club is not there anymore. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how things look
Give ETH the time to build a team ard hjulund, garnacho, mainoo and kwambala and a few additions from the very talented u18s team. Forget the present, look to the future. Get rid of senior deadwood (loads of them) and give youth a chance. Plus a few more shrewd signings, we could come good in a few seasons time.
The problem is the youngsters are already getting stick, especially with social media no more patience
Give eth 10 years. Utd will be history by then sure.
The dressing room is now full of his players and the results are the same he can’t coach we get battered loads this season and last season go back and look at the results properly he can’t cope
Tyson Fury FTW of course!! Greets from a Feyenoord fan, btw I hope man united will really start turning things around for next season. I think they pissed away money with Anthony and Casimero, also Erikson, amrabat seem not like the topnotch midfielders Such a big legendary club should have. But seriously It's ridiculous Man united is struggling for all these years. Ill be rooting for Man united, although Arne slot is my favorite coach, so I'll be rooting for Liverpool to (sorry) ;)
Please don't let it be Southgate
Ndidi is a decent first team cdm
Mario Keown would be a good centreback option lol
Welbeck? Speaking of old players, lets say many years later, after a glittering productive career, MG becomes a model professional (lets say he becomes a family man etc etc), and wanted to return to Utd on a free with reasonable wage requirement.
Is there any redemption for him?
Never comment to a show you didn't watch
He’s commenting on the disgusting clickbait lie in the thumbnail.
@@Zeppelin180 But the way he is addressing it is no different from reviewing a whole movie based only on the movie poster
tuchels subs on 80th minute of kane and musiala was as good as ten hags subs, he will be perfect for utd
It's an offside if this was in EPL I guess they will chop the line to almost zero to make it onside
Garnacho was given offside by his hand against Arsenal so that's onside
I hope new united owner make analysist based on football statistic only not emotion sentiment...ten hag n greenwood must stay at united next year....
Greenwood is never coming back how have you people not got over it yet fucking hell he’s not coming back
blaming the competition like the stand is just sad. remember Sam's Yassim days? it's that pot blaming the kettle
the reason mls clubs are on there is because they had legendary status players like Thierry, Beckham, Villa, Zlatan now Messi amd Barca friends are in mls
United sign young world-class talents
How about let’s not. Only fools think switching manager now it’s a good idea.
Like Beckham said if you are playing for Manchester United you should be giving 💯 but we have “so called world class players” like Rashford, who never tracks a ball back. Shaw who I don’t remember when was the last time he played. Lindelof who is not a proper cb, Maguire who was over valued, Varane who ain’t no longer the player he was at Madrid or may be he relied so much on Ramos, AWB who only trait is slide tackle, but can’t really defend or attack, Casemiro who looks wasted, Mount who is a waste of space and money, Antony another flop who cost so much for nothing, Martial who had one good season in almost 10 years, Mctominay who would only start at Not’ Forest, but still plays at United, Onana leaves me speechless, Ericksen can’t run, won’t run. Sancho who is a disrespectful bastard, no wonder why Pep let him go, egoistic bastard.
Only Bruno, Garnacho, Mainoo, Hojlund, Dalot should remain…. The rest can fking gooooooo…
Ten Hag ain’t free from blaming, Antony, Onana, Mount and De Gea all bad decisions made by him. But letting him go is not the solution, last season we saw improvement but these players won’t fight for the badge or anything he manager.
Morning
10Hag's man management is very poor. He doesn't have the character of a klopp , a Guardiola or Tuchel. Even Arteta tweaks his tactics in the game ..10Hag just sits and hopes the team won loose.
Eth set up is not 100% but the players do not believe so it does not work what so ever no fight no meaning to the play
No thank you. No Tuchel!
More flip flopping, than Billingsgate fish Market🤣🤣
Kinda interested in what your reaction would've been, if they brought Greenwood back
They wasn’t ever going to
@@willtallis5275 they were rumored to last summer. The question was more of a hypothetical one. Don't think he'll be brought back either
@@Hushyluv they jusy can’t do it when the owners are going round talking about standards and being professional
Mark is on the payroll every child know it now
TUS was decent years ago... lately, its pissing me off! the headlines, the negativity and most on that channel
MLS teams are valuable because it’s a closed league. If it wasn’t it wouldn’t be that high
I would have jose back 100% Thomas t is his own destruction. He is elite but also elite ate fucking himself up but 2or 3 levels above eth
Please no, just no to this guy.
Rule changes, giving us bread and circuses.
Two years Tuchel he last's for 2 years.
In 2 years time we will be back to ground zero.
Look at Chelsea its taken 2 yrs to rebuild no results yet but Ponchinetto is getting better all the time.
Neuer ruin the game for Bayern, that blooper was a bummer 😅
I wouldn’t mind somebody doing a video on what style of played does Thomas have because from what I’ve seen there is no philosophy of play. There is no real attacking style and whenever they seem to go one, they do exactly what safe Care do and sit back, you can say he’s a better man manager than Eric because he’s better Benchampions, league finals, etc., etc. when he’s had superior teams and squads and set ups to get to finals😊😊😊
Chelsea squad wasn’t a good a squad
Can we do away with the'd
iddle de dee de do' comments. They're INFURIATING!!!
Sams mad about the value of American teams lol 🇺🇸
Sam, love your content been subscribed for couple years now and watch most videos. Real talk though bro, you need to stop bringing up youtube creators and just do you. Like many other fans of creator content. I watch a few united channels. Second you start bashing other channels. I switch off. Stick to what you do best. Great content. Dw what everyone else is doing. This is feedback not a dig.
Who you got sam kdot or drizzy
Your agenda on Southgate is a little odd and inconsistent. Tuchel flopped last night, Emery bottled it vs Barca with PSG and played that mad high line vs us at old Trafford, Klopp lost 7 finals or something in a row. Yet, you go on about the Italy game constantly, forgetting how incredibly Italy were in that comp. He’s done a super job nurturing talent, enabling players to enjoy playing for England again and we consistently compete now. Is that not by design exactly what we are after? I don’t want a ‘winner’ who just gets pissed when after 18 months we aren’t competing to sign mbappe. Give the guy a break ffs
tuchel made aa huge mistake and didn't win the Bundesliga for the first time in 10 years.
I for one am SHOCKED that The Clickbait Stand still does clickbait😂 I unsubbed ages ago and prefer this channel and community ❤
Intro track is too long and loud🤬💔🤷♂️
100% NO! to Tuchel!!!! He's not the right fit for our club. I don't like his football style, his record with the exception of CL win is quite average. He is abrasive and honestly, for me at least, not very likeable and somebody I can get behind. This is contrary to Eric, I know he's made mistakes but I recognise the mess he's inherited and the lack of players to select. Absolutely no way do I want Tuchel, don't even get me started on Southgate
These are mainly eriks players now and all he does is blame injuries not the fact that he sets them up wide open and doesn’t change anything he can’t cope there’s only a few players left from other managers injuires is no excuse he’s been here 2 years and things are geting worse and worse
@@willtallis5275 injuries are a huge problem and can't be ignored. Plus he's still dealing with legacy players from as far back as LvG. He has far too many wankers in this team and it's extremely difficult to get a tune out of them, a. They don't care as they get paid loads of money and know they will still be there after the manager 2. Because they think they are not as good as they think they are... They are going to stop playing for him now, it's already starting to show over the last few games. They think he's getting fired so aren't bothered anymore. I hope Ineos are calculated enough to rid the club of these waster players first before appointing yet another manager
@@ClarionCaww no he’s not 2 players from van gal teams are still here most of the dressing room is his players now apart from a very very small group and your saying to sell players we’ve only just got 17 of these players in the last 2 seasons it’s not the fucking players it’s his coaching plain and simple
@@willtallis5275 when I said going legacy back to LvG, I meant wasters since then, so yes those 2 (I'd make that 3 with Rashford) but then some from Jose and a bunch still from Ole. All on stupid long contracts. There arent that many from EtH really and also many loans or freebies. It's Murtagh and Arnolds/Woodwards fault for our poor signings - they were the ones signing it all off
@@ClarionCaww no they wasn’t Erik had veto power on transfers meaning he signed off on them all and you still think over 17 players coming in hasn’t changed the dressing room sooner or later your going to run out of excuses for him
Why is no one interested in Danny Olmo RB Liepzig
100mil for 'interested' , 90mil for 'opening negotiation', and 80mil for 'sealing the deal'... You want to pay?
@Lusius-Lee no way. He has a release clause of €60 mil. Why not go for him. He is very creative.
United lack a lot of creative players.
We want Mason Greenwood back. He's a natural born goal scorer. He's way better than Rasmus Hoijlund. Cancel culture shouldn't trump the justice system. Let Mason Greenwood come back home and show what he knows how to do to get Manchester United to the top.
No the club doesn’t need that bullshit and other players don’t want him there get over it he’s not even that good had the same numbers as martial
This guy slamming that clown gold bridge is the first useful thing he has done for manutd fans
This comment is as silly as most of Gold bridge's titles
@@Njpro this CZcamsr defended ten hag all season. If you agree with him you need to grow a brain
@@andrewchong5823If you mean bridge then you’re wrong..well you’re right in the sense that he’s defends tan hag but he’s only doing this cos he’s sick and tired of MuFC hire, one season success then fire. He wants to try something different and so do I do.
@@kevingood4644 if you took the wrong meds 4 times. If the fifth time ten hag is poison. It’s doesn’t matter what happened the other 4 times you stop taking poison. Wake up
Don't want tuchel as a coach, sorry
Its called the Thumbnail War. Pure Clickbait to get as many clicks as possible. His Media Outlet is a company. Which makes 7 figures revenue. The more cclicks the better ad revenue. Higher income from YT. He rattles people for a reason. Its money.
Poor form mentioning another channel.
Real Madrid is the best club in the world
Ten Hag out
Shut up
10Hag's man management is very poor. He doesn't have the character of a klopp , a Guardiola or Tuchel. Even Arteta tweaks his tactics in a game ..10Hag just sits and hopes the team won't loose.
Sorry this manager eth is a scam
eat flaming hot Cheetos with chop sticks so your fingers don’t get stained to hell. You’re welcome
Stop bitching about how others run their channel, if that's how they want to run it leave them to it 🙄
If you think Tuchel ‘failed the audition’ for Man Utd after last night you’re completely wrong. Tuchel set up Bayern perfectly in a game where Madrid were the favourites. A mistake from a usually outstanding GK and a mistake from officials that should mean they never referee in the CL again, cost them. Yes, Kimmich at RB was getting roasted by Vinicius Jr. but at least he tried to address it with Laimer and Sane. People need to remember you’re trying to stop the best Left sided attacker in world football today.
I agree the substitutions were questionable but Bayern were 1-0 up on 88mins, I think most coaches would have enough trust in their players to kill the game.
If this was an ‘audition’ he passed with flying colours IMO
You don't take off players like Sane AND Kane when the system was working and this was their only important game left of the season! That's just poor judgement
@@ClarionCaww like I said, 88 mins they’re 1-0 up if they see out the game, the substitutions are ‘genius’. Now we know what I happened, I get they were questionable but it doesn’t take away from the fact that throughout the whole game, Bayerns set up and tactics were spot on.
Clueless
@@smsm-xb1lt they were against the cosh for most of the game and were barely hanging in there. That lucky break and amazing Alphonso goal around 70min should have made them just see out remainder of game. With all the play acting/time wasting, Tuchel should have anticipated a longish added time. What it turned out was ludicrous nearly 15mins! That turned out to be almost 20mins game time left when they came off - for what? They had nothing else to play for this season. 2 of Bayern's best players taken off in 85min, that was just a bad call by Tuchel. That said, Bayern were unlucky with the disallowed goal at the end. I've seen enough of Tuchel to realise he's not good enough for us and not right anyways. EtH is better IMO
@@ClarionCaww All valid points although I will say what evidence are you going on that ETH is better?
Sam you do speak verbal diarrhoea sometimes!!!
Don't do these shiity content what would tuchel do with united
Man UTD will never win Premier league and champain league trophy again never ever.
I rebuke this
Very ignorant comment
Guessing your not a United fan then
If we stay "clean" and everyone else do major creative accountancy we may be in with a shout. More seriously if we do not go for instant fixes and cleverly scout,incorporate the youth wherever possibly we could be serious challengers again by the turn of the decade.
Plastic fan
Edin Terzic for Manchester United.
Morning
tuchel made aa huge mistake and didn't win the Bundesliga for the first time in 10 years.