We still don't know how good a manager Zinedine Zidane is | ESPN FC
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- Zinedine Zidane won three Champions League titles with Real Madrid, but Craig Burley explains why he still needs to prove he's a great manager.
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Zidane wins the ULC 3 times in a row as the first manager after the new format, something many said was impossible, and suddenly it's apparently the easiest thing in the world.
Its not the easiest thing in the world, not what he said at all. He said it was a great achievement, but his qualities as a manager is not great. but he's man management is great. that is what he is saying. If you have the best team in the world and you only tell them to go out there and express themself how they like and they win, it wont make you a tactical genius. It makes you a great motivator. Which is exactly the skill set required to control such a club. To keep all the big heads down to earth.
But how well would he do as a underdog? that is the question. Could zidane out smart better teams? im not sure.
@@Bubajumba The same thing we can say for Pep and Barca
Zinedine Zidane is a great manager, but you also need to have a world-class team to win trophies. Doesn't matter if you are a tactical master-mind when your team is crap, just look at Man Utd under Mourinho last year as an example. Real Madrid right now has good players who achieved good things in the past, but they are out of form and lack motivation. RM needs to rebuild their whole team, because right now, they don't have any chemistry at all. Unorganized mess.
PlataOPlomo Guardiola was using mostly young players from La Masia (Barca's youth academy). He build and developed a team which included players that we now consider as legends (Iniesta, Xavi, Busquets, Messi etc). Guardiola's Barca played the most beautiful football of all time, it was a pleasure to watch. They dominated football from 2009 to 2011. Right now in Man CIty, he managed to win Premier League two times in a row, which only happened a few times in the history of PL, the last one also being a domestic treble (Premier League trophy, FA Cup, Carabo cup). I'm sorry, but you have to be brain dead to say that Guardiola is a bad coach. I'm not saying that he is the best or anything, because there are managers who managed to win trophies with weaker teams, like Mourinho winning UCL with FC Porto. Guardiola without a doubt belongs in the top 5 best managers of all time.
chujackam wow you make it sound these barca legends were lucky bc they got pep. messi and xavi were top 5 players before pep. messi was 2nd in ballonr and xavi was 5th in 2008 when pep just became a manager. also in one of only two champions league title of pep, barca also had etoo henry and puyol. Maybe only player you can say who became legends under pep is iniesta, but pre-pep iniesta was a much much better player than pre-zidane modric or kroos
Zidane never brought in world class players he used the players he already had
which all was world class tho xD
Lmao oh yeah he really made Ronaldo and bale into the amazing players they are now lol
@@chefchefchef pipe down your manager bottled 2 UCL finals and one of them was against Zidane himself.
He did buy players, the referee's xD.
@@Ras0oi agreed
Real Madrid has 13 champions league, All England clubs combine have 12 champions league. enough said
Don't understand how this is relevant though?
Derp Real Madrid should never be compared to bpl teams
@@ilicdjo true, but real madrid has won the champions league 3 times in a row on three seperate occasions
u are mad the problem with english clubs is that they sell their best players to realmadrid and barcelona where as for example barcelona will not sell messi to them but real and barca take their best players
Mr. That was before Liverpool win their 6th champions league
Pep Guardioloa had one of the best squads in football history , why couldn't he win the UCL 3 or 2 times back to back? The way ESPN hugs Barcelonas balls is laughable. Just contant hate for Madrid and its players.
Exactly! Ferguson couldn't do with it with his best Man Utd teams and Ancelotti couldn't do it with his great AC Milan team which was in the final 3 times. They couldn't even do it 2 years in a row. Zidane has done it 3 years in a row!
Simon Jørgensen but it was not that long or huge of a trophy
The funny thing is that it seems to be global. ESPN in Brazil is the same way in hugh Barcelonas balls.
The Stargazer PEP IS WAY BETTER THAN ZIDANE WHOS A SHIT COACH JUST A GOOD MANAGER FOR THE EGOS SO FOH GLORY HUNTER
Simon Jørgensen Don’t compare Ferguson to zidane. That’s insulting.
MOURINHO couldn't win the Champions League with Madrid. What Zidane has done is impressive. He deserves respect.
Well said
Craig, get out of your prejudice. It's tough to manage even a third division club. Zidane won 3 UCL.
Don't try to take his credits away. Had you been equally successful, if you're given the same team and resources or rather how many managers would?
they're all pricks and we give him this hype out of nothing
Zidane is absolutely a genius of football as a player and a manager no one can argue about that he simple represents the most beautiful side of football.
Lies again? Head Coach Assistant Manager
Zizou took charge of Real Madrid at a period when they were struggling with all the big names they had, far away behind Barcelona in Laliga, yet came close to winning it, he won the Champions League that season and the double (both Champions league and Laliga) in his first full season, won the Champions League again for the third time running and yet you want him to take charge of a small team to prove his pedigree. Why didn't Ferguson, Wenger, Ancelloti or Pep took charge of Aston Villa or say Westbrom and win the league with them. Zizou has already made his mark, you keep crying about how good he is or he's not.
now won la liga without cr7
@@sudanfunny he won it 🤣
Zidane bigger then Rafa and Wenger ,don't forget zidane couched RM for 300 games and lost just 16 time's. Respect
Okay so what about the beginning of the year when real was struggling and he turned it around 🤷♀️💯
This segment is a perfect example of why I stopped watching this show several years ago. This used to be quality now it's just trash with crazy talking points or spending half the episode talking about their personal lives
Every top manager inherits top players and most do not stay long enough to completely replenish the squad. Zidane was smart enough to keep players with an experience of winning Champions Leagues and use that experience at vital moments (e.g., bringing Bale on in the final).
wow.... who did zidane buy ..... which budget... he is great... the guy talking didnt win 3 champions as a player
He inherited a 5 time Balon D'or winner. He had players like Sergio Ramos, Marcelo, Modric, Kroos who always make the FIFA world eleven. Let Zidane take over a team like Sevilla and win the champions league
guardiola should coach sevilla or han 96 oh ferg should have coached hull city... wenger should coach aston villa
@Egbo Munachi - When Fergie took charge at Manchester United they hadn't won a league title in 20 YEARS. Zidane took over a team who had won a league title 2 YEARS prior and a Champions League a year prior. Big Difference!
@ Harpreet Singh Chawla - he had players who were bought for World Record transfers (CR7 & Bale). If Zidane is truly a great manager he should manage a team that doesn't have that level of power to victory
+Simply Balling So Guardiola isn't anything special then either?
why is Craig so salty lmao?
Craig just being straight and saying the truth nobody wants to hear.Yes he won 3CLs in a row,great achievement but other than that i cant see what hes done there,the performances and the team wasnt any great,it was just individuals.Funny that the same people who made this argument about Pep inheriting a great team though his mark was clear to see on his Barcelona so hes not no great coach wont take it with Zidane though theres no mark of Zidane to see on Real Madrid.
Travis Miller i understand that, but he is so angry and bitter while explaining it
its been 3 years he wanted real Madrid to lose....its laughable he hates everything related to real...ask him to coach this team and win a single ucl..he is acting like its so damn easy to win a ucl.. pep's barca couldn't win even 2 in a row let alone 3..
he's salty cos when real first hired zidane and sacked rafa he called it nonsense (his exact word), saying cos zidane is a great player people expect him to do well as a coach. he is right in some respects; same reason why i don't really give pep time of day. but he is wrong in the sense, real have had mourinho capello hiddink and a host of other great coaches who never won 3 in a row, some never even won the champions league, so zidane deserves credit (btw pep took over a good team at barca, its not like they had scrubs)...but he is right cos, 3 years isn't enough to put anyone on a coaching throne. its still a short timeline, but the achievement of three in a row is special. even the so called special one never did that
king _david this is idiot why on earth is making punditry
How good is zizo is? Well 2.5 Year’s and 9 Titles. Thank you
Craig has certainly smoked some good quality weed. If winning with this bunch of players was so easy why was Carlo Sacked, Rafa Benitez kicked out ?
According to his logic, Messi shouldn't be even mentioned among the greats since he started at Barcelona and it was all easy for him. Why do you even call him at the show ?
I don't know why he keeps on mentioning Sir Alex in every single sentence when no one ever compared Zidane with Sir Alex.
Prateek Pandey Fergie is not proven a great manager, coz he never manage other club.
Savoir Faire a great manager is when he can bring the club to top leagues with average player. And Sir Alex Ferguson made it.
Nd Jose Morino
Zidane kept the same squad for the last 3 years Barley spent money. Barcelona spent more than any team in the world the last 3 years and they stayed at the same level, no one criticizes them but they troll psg, man city, utd etc. Sure Barca won la liga this year but zidane has that special mentality to get his players to pull through and show up when it matters most this team won the 3rd champions league in a row in BAD FORM. Shows how much character that Madrid squad has. They’re true champions.
(1) Zidane win UCL as player with real Madrid 2002 In Glasgow with his great goal and that was the last UCL (9) for real Madrid
(2) he cameback to real Madrid as a assistant to Carlo Ancelotti and real Madrid win the UCL (10) for real Madrid
(3) he became a real Madrid manager and win 3 UCL in row for real Madrid
Zidane has one three champions leagues back to back!! but you dont know how good he is???
Jealous of Zidane-
All those proclaiming Zidane is this great coach for winning 3CLs in a row,i mean if ur confident why have issues with waiting till seeing Zidane at another Club?Surely you should be like yeah Zidane will prove it.
Is Zidane greatest manager? Not yet but he definitely did the greatest thing in CL history. Fact is whoever the greatest manager is couldn't do that. Mourinho with younger Ronaldo couldn't win once with Real Madrid. Zidane didn't inherit the best squad, he turned them into the best, he sold James, Morarta and bought no big players, what he did was win more in less time with less players than his predecessors. The other reason why he is effective with his players is because he was a great player himself, he knows about winning world cup, Cl, Euros as well as balan dor, and knows about losing too. No one can argue with him about football. If he was a football pundit he would probably be the greatest at that too.
Exactly, that squad only became the best BECAUSE of Zidane. They were sht before he came and they are sht after he left.
Who can repeat Zidane Job. Nothing. Zidane can not be compared with Ferguson or Wenger with guaranty position on Club.
This is where the problem comes...he connot been compared to people like Ferguson couz he did not build the team
Does Messi has to move to the others club to prove that he is the best?
Such an idiot...🤦...ur comparing a manager and a player
sowrabh n After 30 years in charge and all the freedom in the world to do what ever he wanted to with his team Ferguson couldn't even win it 2 years in a row.
That’s like saying you shouldn’t try to apply to the best schools and the best jobs because of course you’re gonna get the best jobs and be successful. If you’re really someone competent, go to the worst school there is, a no-name and become the most successful ever person.
What kind of logic is that? Haters gonna hate. Long live Zizou, what you did was historical. He doesn’t have to prove anything to nobody.
Amazing response bro
Hey Craig! Zidane comes back to a pathetic team, gets a hold of them and boom wins the League. U wanna eat a crow now! 😂😂😂🙉🤦♂️
Appreciate what zidane did. He won 3 straight, first ever to do it. Stop saying he had a great squad. He not only won, he managed the team greatly with little or no spending. If it was about skill n great players, guardiorla wld have won 4straight. Do not compare eras. Zidane is great 4 what he did. Period.
you can say pep had a great team too but he’s still counted as one of the greatest
There seems to be a double standard applied against Zizou.... Pep never went to a club with a limited budget but is considered one of the greatest managers already . Even with their best squads Fergie, Pep and Mourinho never won consecutive champions league titles let alone 3 ! Craig Burley needs to be a bit fair to Zizou for crying put loud!
sampler md I like zidane. But im not sure if he can cut it in another league though. But i must say what he did in real madrid is magnificent.
Humm who's here after 7-3 loss to atleti without Ronaldo and bale lmao
I'm here because Ronaldo is no longer here to pull rmfc outta pits
Fresh Freshers Who is here after Madrid has the best defensive record in the top 5 leagues and are on top of la liga? Lmao
yo nonce, how u doing there, basing of a whole season of pre match friendlies, delusional
Liverpool fans are so ignorant Jesus.
@@ianpian5364 definetly
Hey...how about now... A spanish super copa and on the verge to win 34th laliga for real without cr7 .. Changing the club mentality and he did turned around a struggling madrid.... He's a good manager... Respect man.... He is a phenomenal manager
Zinedine zidane was the greatest footballer ever and he is great manager. They have appreciate what he is done for less than 3years
To be fair you really see how great a manager is when he you see what happens and what he is able to do in the struggle so there is something behind his argument but to be fair to Zidane he’s done everything he can at Real Madrid
Doesn’t matter what Players you have you still have to win the Comp. so Pep hasn’t proven himself because he has had 3 God squads at 3 Clubs
Peps distinct mark on his teams is clear to see,Zidanes isnt.All great Managers are seriel League Title winners,Zidane didnt dominate League like Guardiola does.
Travis Miller dumbass i swear 😂
Well...... yeh it does kind of matter what player u have haha
When zidane came to Madrid they were at a really low point and once he came Madrid turned into a beast
This man on the right is very wise
Sir Alex 30 years 2 champion league Zidane 3 years 3 champion league
bakiambu hope yep
Big ups to zizu for big achievement. What he did was out of this world. Lets just wait for what he will achieve in next club n many more years after, thats how a great coach is rated n not over 3 years.
Craigs got a point too
And now in 2020 zidane has once again brough real back to its best...
It’s like saying I had 💯 numbers memorized in the 90’s vs I have a smart phone in 2018
What Zizou's done is Miracle .. winning 3 UCL in 3 yrs is astonishing.
Those managers are all ‘great’ in their own rights. Sir Alex and Wenger have been masters of prolonged success, building and rebuilding teams, and adapting styles to different eras. Zidane and Guardiola have excelled at short stints of extraordinary success with super teams assembled with world class talent at every position and managing all the challenges that come with it. It is hard to compare them
Well he came back & has just won a la liga title...Now you know...he is a great manager
The guy has a big point. With that squad you could win at least one UCL without saying a word to the players.
Obviously I don’t like Madrid but damn man winning the Champions League for the last three years is an unbelievable achievement. Regardless of the club.
And 2 years later,he has turned a struggling real madrid into a good team
Great team now. Top of the table
We shu appreciate his work done at real madrid. He don't have to take a team from a lower division to a top league before he can become a great manager. What he did is unprecedented and those others managers live their time in the game and we didn't see anything achievement in the UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE of such from them.
Good enough to realise he is lucky and know his limitation and smart about when to BALE and brave on pulling the trigger.
Time commands change and nothing can deny
What zidane did with Real Madrid is great and would be almost impossible to repeat. But I believe that managing a team with great players ( what zidane and pep did) and growing a smaller team into the top and turning it around ( what mourinho did) requires two different approaches and skill set.....zidane doesn't need to prove anything to be termed as a great coach but he needs to prove it with a smaller team to be termed as the greatest of all time.
Zidane is a good manager who has instilled a winning mentality in that squad never give up attitude, but yeah I understand Craig's argument.
I agree with him for the first time ever and probably the only time
This guy is not a good pundit until he leaves ESPN , goes to a poor local station and grab them by scruff of the neck. What a loose argument. Weird how winning doesn't matter to this guy
Hahahaha. U nailed it bro
Flores to Zizou:
Do u want me to buy u players , any one in mind?
Zizou :
No thanks , what I have will do
Flores :
Are u sure? We always buy players , even when we don’t need them .
Zizou :
No really thanks .
2.5 years in charge , 9 top trophies 🏆
And this guy still talks out of his arse while am writing ✍️ this 🤣
FOOL
I 100% agree with Craig
Say what you want, Craig knows his football
This guy must watch himself in tv then may be he might know what he meant to say...if still dont have any clue just fire him 😂lol.
He managed the best for 3 years I believe that is more difficult than building a club because no one has done that before
It would need another 42 years or more, for another team to win the mayor european club championship 3 times in a row.
What Zidane did was absolutly HUGE and for the moment he is one of the greatest managers of all time!!
For me zidane is one of the best ever , to handle such egos in the madrid side incredible , every madrid player respected zidane except bale ofcourse
U cnt compare zidane with fergie they are completely different , see the longetivity but both are one of the best
2 wise to argue. Both are right
burley makes a very good ;point
Zidane didn't sign a single one of the players who won him the CL 3 times.
Ive learnt one thing, haters always find a reason to criticise
It's not often i agree with Craig - but I fully appreciate where he's coming from - Not only for the Great Managers are viewed over a decade - ask Claudio Ranieri - by the time the Invincible Season happened it was Wenger's team that he'd chosen - same with Paisley's Liverpool and Fergie's United teams - Whereas ZZ and Pep inherited their teams - so are they great managers (in the long term) - we'll see
Zidane has won 3 Champions Fucking Leauge in a row as a head coach! This achievement is huge. He seems to be a great motivator. He has rotated the squad well, keeping players fresh, has promoted youth as well. He seems to handle transfer market well. He believed in a player he had and inspired them. He is doing great. (Really appreciable) But I don't think still he can be considered one of the top manager in the world right now. He still needs to prove it somewhere else. For me, he isn't among top 5 manager in the current football right now. But he is going to right direction. Best of luck to him on upcoming challenges. Hope he doesn't go to clubs like Bayern or Juventus and just win 7 league title in a row. Get a new challenge!!!!
Burley speaks truth again.
If we're discrediting Zidane based on having fantastic players and a lot of money, then we gotta throw Pep in the exact same conversation
I like their argument and dat man on right has a point what some of you guys can't see zizou still has time to prove us dat is better than now coz Madrid is a big team with great players anyone can manage it en win
Agree with Craig
I agree with what he's saying
Craig Burley is on some heavy stuff.
Please, just let the man watch this again and he will feel that he should have gone easy on the salt
“Whoooo the fuk is that guy” Craig BUMley💯😂
Chill everyone.. he is not saying Zidane is a bad manager; he is just saying he started up with excellent resources and great players but there's other managers that start with the opposite but end up on top. So I totally agree with that reporter 👍
Zidane never got eliminated from the champions league for 3 straight years that he made the most prestigious, ,hardest wanted or arguably the greatest competition in the world seem so easy and that idiot clown says he still needs to prove himself self??!!!
He has nothing to prove he completed football and got bored then finally resigned on high note.
1. Firstly zizou doesn't need to prove to anyone his credentials his achievements speaks volumes.
2. Yes he did inheret a world class squad, but that does not mean it's an automatic qualification to titles.
3. It requires balls and confidence to subdue egos In that changing room, which clearly he has demonstrated and other top managers struggled.
4. Obviously the guy is great at getting the best out of players. Top man manager. Maybe his tactics you could question, for example he didn't have a set formation at RM he chopped and changed. Maybe it worked for him, maybe He could improve on this in future.
5. Winning 9+ trophies in under 2 1/2 years is incredible and anyone who says its a fluke is clearly mistaken.
6. He left because, to many egos from likes of Perez, Ronaldo, Ramos. Ageing squad, and he felt what more can I achieve from RM. Wise move by zidane
7. Maybe another stint at another top club and then for the France job I reckon.
so he is saying he will prove himself if he goes to another club with low budget? what are you smoking mate he is the only manager who spent lesser then any other top club manager.
Kovacic Ehsan you just proved a point he spent less because team was ready formed when he took over like any half decent manager all he had to do was sit back and wait for them to win things ! Then after dismal run in the la liga finishing 17 pts behind Barcelona and a lucky champions cup win with aid of thug captain sees they need to improve big time and he wont be up to it especially in la liga sorry truth hurts 😆😆
typical barca fan, forever in our shadow, forever inferior and playing catch up.. the team was in turmoil and on the verge of a disastrous season when he took over, and he turned things around and kept it going for another 2 seasons for back to back to back Champions Leagues titles, something the dickless midgets down at Barcelona can only dream off. And he did it without spending billions, like Barca, or ManU, or City, PSG, or Bayern, or Juve, or anyone with $$ to blow really, he did it with youth and rotations, he did it with what he had and nothing more. You can suck on that for the remainder of the summer and celebrate your pathetic double (nice loss to Levante btw, invincible's my ass lol) while we enjoy another year of European Domination, truth hurts ;)
The guy on the right takes some good stuff I want to know his dealer
Honestly we have to see what he does at another club. To be fair he has the best players at every position in the world. I like Zidane and Real Madrid. But I'd like to see how he does at another club.
Just the fact Zidane played brilliant football and went on to manage is better than some overpaid business man running the club who doesn't know the game. More power to him.
This proves that in life no matter how good you are, still people will complain about you. Human beings 🤔
I'm back and it's 2023 same guys say Pep is the greatest manager because he won Treble with man city, a club that has a high budget, good players, and was already winning the league before pep came in.
Believe me I absolutely hate Real Madrid but for fuck sake he’s won three champions leagues in a row which has never been done before...how can you not say he is one of the best managers in the world
I always believe DTs that manage huge money teams have it so easy. Its like a money hack in a video game. I consider dts of smaller teams who have succeeded way better...one example is rainieri. I would like to see pep, zidane, or mourinho manage a mid table team or below and see if they get the same results
In 3 seasons Zidane won more Champions League trophies than SAF and Wenger did in 48 seasons combined.
Before zidane Real Madrid had Trouble defeating Barca and winning the champions they still have trouble but have done way better than years before zidane
What he has done so far that’s enough to approve he is greatest manager in the history he did it just in short time.they said because he has the best player in world but they forgot when he came to manage them they were 15 point behind Barcelona and their performance was so bad.he could control the team with super stars players and made two team no matter who is going to play in pitch the team could win the matches even with out the essential players.
Zidane is a bad coach look at RM right now. Bad tactics, no style. Ive always said that.
They said the same about Pep
Very good point e.g. Frank Rijkaard of Barcelona winning 2La Liga, 2 Supercopa de España, 1 UEFA Champions League.. after that you never heard from him since.
I guess this applies to Pep as well.
I didn't know Zinedine Zidane butted his way into a managerial position.
This was the same argument brought up about Guardiola after he left Barcelona.
Benitez is a great manager and had the same squad and couldn’t do what Zidane’s done
as they say if zidane was lucky for managing a great team with some incredible players, then what the hell pep did. he too managed a generation defining side like barca won champions league twice. Then went onto manage bayern with some incredible players but in a not so "tough" league as bundesliga, its a fact that there has been huge gap between bayern and the rest of the teams in the league. so, when pep can be spoken of in the same breath as sir alex and other greats, then what is wrong in talking of zidane as well. the only manager to win CL thrice consecutively, no one knows when that can happen again. Since it took 42 yrs to happen it again in european club competition.
Craig give some credit to the guy.
I don't see many pundits mentioning this point. An absolute hammer blow to the anti-zidanes, God knows whether its coincidence or intentional. The point is on number of trophies won vis a vi the net spending. My rough check has Mourinho with a net spend of around €300m at Man U and 3 trophies. Pep net spend at Man city around €400 with 2 trophies won. Zizou net spend at positive €100 with 9 trophies won.
Good enough to win 3 champions league in a row !!
He dominated Europe for 3 years straight and they still say he isn’t that good lmao
Try to be a manager and become a Champion for a 3 times in a row and then judge him
I suspect the main reason people are resistant to Craig's point is because he's being a little too blunt. Zidane SHOULD prove himself as a tactician with a team that needs reorganization, and we'll never REALLY know his ranking until he does so. With that in mind, winning three Champions League titles should also allow him into the fancy parties.
Pep had a great Barca team. Henry Eto Messi and didn’t dominate Europe. He also had a great Bayern team and didn’t win UCL.
Craig is absolutely right. Zidane was lucky to come into a club with great players.
jump on the table and fight fight fight lmao lets go