Tim Talks Tires (A Quarantine Drinking Game) - BFG KM3 Review
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- Tim reviews our BF Goodrich KM3 Mud-Terrain tires after 50,000 miles through Central and South America while helping you stay entertained during the Quarantine with an unplanned drinking game! (Please drink responsibly and maintain social distance!)
Date: January 2020
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I love the KM3s - siped they are the best all around tire I have ever run. I run them on my hummer H3 and Zr2 bison . When my Kendra MTs on my Tundra wear out she will get these shoes as well. All three trucks have front and rear lockers and are run in Wyoming’s roughest off road trails
Thanks for this excellent review. One interesting benefit I've noticed with all 4 sets of BF Goodrich tires that I've installed on our vehicles (KO2, two Advantage T/As, KM3) were that none of them required any balancing. I hand mounted each tire, then started driving, without even initial balancing. The KO2's and one set of Advantage T/A's had a slight vibration above 85mph, but that smoothed out after 3000 miles. So they still have no weights. All of our cars routinely went up to 90mph without any tire vibration at all ! It is quite incredible Goodrich is able to achieve that with so many different types of tires.
Thanks Tim! I can't believe how well the tires looks with all those miles on them!
I never thought they'd go so far! Almost time for a new set.
@@DirtSunrise how many miles did you get out of them? I want these however 99%of my driving is city driving. I want them just for looks. I know they are not meant for this, but again i like the look. Would you still be ok in the street with these?
Great review 👍👍👍, I just put a set of KM3's on my Raptor and love em so far. These will see sand and trails.
Cheers Mike!
Yep. This kinda clears my mind about A/t's vs. M/t´s. I'm in Peru so that comment about the M/t sliding in Cuzco was spot on for my decision. Thks
I for one do appreciate the real world experience reviews. I’m not going to get 50k worth of experience in the next three years, so your wisdom is much appreciated. We happen to be running 32” Falken A/T3W for Colorado / Utah overlanding with great results. As you said, AT’s seem to be the sweet spot for overlanding where we generally have a mix of pavement, graded dirt, rutted dirt, and snow. Thanks again for the effort.
You're welcome. I've heard great things about Falken's over the last few years. We need to try a set!
I love the ko2 BF Goodrich all terrain I've had other tires that are noisy I don't think I would ever go back.
Ours were so quiet as well. Good stuff!
Interesting perspective on a purchase I am considering for my 79series land cruiser. I have run Bridgestone Dueller At,s for 25 000km now and they still look fairly good after heavy use and towing.
It does not matter in some mud conditions you just have to suck it up and dig, winch rinse and repeat.
I have had trips in the far north of Australia not long after the last of the Monsoonal rains and it has been that muddy I have struggled to do 10km in one day in some bad areas, Talk about soul destroying!
It's fun watching you guys goof around.
Thanks Dillon, we gotta stick to what we're good at. LOL
@@DirtSunrise I didn't mean it in a bad way, hahahah. I think it was funny with the leg slapping because I'm sure I would be goofy on camera too.
Thanks for this video, I have been looking for info about km3s and ko2. I watched a video and wanted the MTs then another one and wanted the ATs; but your video made me decide for the KO2s!! You said what I needed to hear since, where I live (center-north of Chile), the type of mud would probably stick to any type of tire (clay sort-of mud); so, I would benefit from the advantages in highway, wet roads and sand of the ATs!
Cheers!
Cheers Victor! We're about to get some new KO2's installed in the USA. Looking forward to the quieter tire after the KM3, but we're amazed how long the KM3 lasted, for a mud tire.
Nice. Appreciate the review. Thanks.
Great video, thanks. I’m about to pick up a set of these for my FJ40.
Thanks John!
You are awesome, much thank you !
This is the mud here in Karoo, South Afrika. Its like pottery clay.
Exactly!
Great. Thanks. I'm drunk.
Good info man. I've (almost) run standard size BFG AT's on everything and just have no need to change. Our last set of KO2's wore out pretty quickly but that was on the roughest roads, relatively high speeds and a heavy load. 50k MILES is amazing with the driving you do.
I think I'm going to go with something different next time, just for some variety.
I remember looking at how chewed up your KO2's were. It's definitely weighing on which way to go this time. I realized how expensive different brands are. Like in Europe I saw a thread on how Toyos were way cheaper than BFG. Here it's the inverse where Toyos are outrageous and BFG's are cheaper by a lot.
Coopers are big in AU right? We traveled with a guy with a set and they lasted a LONG time, but when he switched to BFG's recently he said they were quieter and the ride was noticeably softer. Which could mean good and bad things. Haha
I'll try whichever ones sponsor us or I may just go back to K02's again.
@@DirtSunrise yeah Cooper had a big push here a few years ago, and that's mostly what I've found for sale in the bush. Costco sell BFG's though, so they are relatively cheap.
Cool video from a tire shop owner. You know your stuff. Best of luck
Thanks, that means a lot! Cheers
Thanks so much for your review. So honest. I'm a BF guy and I have tried some tires sizes and brands... Didn't like the 315/75 on our 3.5ton HZJ75 troopy. Too wide. I really prefer the 285/75
We have tried the Michelin 9.00r16 (36.1") but they're to heavy and noisy.
Thanks Marcio! Although I love the ground clearance of the 315's I agree, they are too wide. We recently switched to 255/85 tires and I'm enjoying them. I do wish someone made a 34" tall skinny tire for 16" wheels.
I've heard similar comments about the XZL's. We can't easily get them here, but they are a great size.
@@DirtSunrise
Take a look on ours XZL czcams.com/video/N7Gtf3EVnew/video.html
I totally agree with you... Maybe one day BF makes 265/85/16... In this moment the closer one is the 285/75/17 which is a 34" but in a 17 rim that is not ideal to Africa.
The 255/85 must be interesting... They should have traction in some terrains.. and more available engine power due less rotational weight...
Solid review will totally be getting the KO2 next for my 19 power wagon in the 37x12.50R17
Thanks. We just installed brand new KO2's yesterday and it's great to have the lower weight and smoother ride so far.
Excellent prezo ... answers my ?? re KO2 vs KM3. Ima stick with the KO2 ... SoCal deserts ... access and not pushing extreme limits.
Thank you so much! That review was top notch. I too have had ko2 for 20 years and each set gets better with compounds. I’m ready for a new set and really wanted to do research on the km3 and also other fire companies. You nailed it, I’m sticking with the ko2 🤙🏽🏕🙌🏼
Glad it was helpful!
Great Video and Review Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
I'll probably get Toyo R/T tires (315/75 R16, 67 lbs) for my rig, best of both worlds
While the Baja race support doesn't guarantee any tires specific performance, the reason the pit service at races is informative is because it indicates their willingness to put in the effort to produce a top performing product, and shows good leadership at the higher levels, which does in fact make or break a company in time. BFG's been owned by Michelin since 1990.
Agreed, they are dedicated to a part of the off-road world that I enjoy and that counts for something.
Very informative! I'm deciding whether to get the KO2's or the KM3's. I'll probably get the KO2's based on the type of terrain I go through.
We've since got a pair of KO2's in the truck and are loving the smoother ride and flotation in the dunes. I'd happily get another set of KM3's at any time though.
This was a great review and informational vid on tires thanks! Love your guys travel vids but Id watch if you guys throw in one of these info vids in every once in a while👍 Wow Goose is 8000lbs!
Thanks! He's a lovable pig, but a pig none the less.
@@DirtSunrise Oh Goose and you guys are Awesome! Your vids show what a great capable rig Goose Is! You guys are one of my Fav chans! Thanks So much for sharing your Experiences on CZcams!
Those look great for 50k on them! I only got 20 out of my KM2's. Thanks for the review!
Same! I'm astounded.
20? That's....terrible. Cooper STT Pro, and Nitto TG, have gotten ~50K with 5 tire rotations every 5k.
3 mins in I passed out and missed the rest of the Video.
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66 leg slaps later. Haha. I bought an '05 4.7L DOC V8 Toyota 4Runner. It came with a set of K02's on it. I've been shopping for replacements, and found a set of like-new KM3's (four of them) for $500. So (God willing) I'll pick them up tomorrow for the rig and run them until they die. And then I'll probably go back to the KO2's or some Falken Wildpeak AT3's (since they are comparable in strength, durability, and grip) but with 5K more miles of warranty, and 2/16ths more tread when new... for roughly $40 less/tire than the BF Goodrich K02s.)
Thanks for the review. How'd you get into South and Central America touring? Where are you from?
(My wife and I live in NW Montana!)
That was a valuable analysis. Worth listening to.
Cheers
NICE REVIEW FRIEND, THANKS.
Thanks for watching!
Good review. I’ve been going back and forth on KO2 vs KM3 and I think KO2’s are going to be the winner. I’m tired of the MT noise and it seems like the only place the KO2’s don’t shine is greasy clay mud but as you pointed out all tires suck in that stuff except something like super swappers but I’m definitely not running those. KO2’s are about 300$ cheaper for a set of 5 than the KM’s also.
Fantastic commentary. I’m glad I stumbled upon this channel.
Welcome aboard!
Had me a glass of Woodford Reserve already served, so I decide to follow along with your knee slapping shenanigans. I lasted 2 mins. Let's just say I'm a quick finisher. and don't judge me if it's only 2pm, I'm quarantined!!!
There are no rules in quarantine! Cheers!! 🥃
What gearing are you running those 35's? 4.11 or 4.88 or ?.?? Also, might you be up for a Campteq review? Thanks much for sharing your adventure with us!
Right in the middle. 4.56. For the US the gearing is great, but for slow moving international travel I wish I could switch to 4.88 for the trip.
I have had two sets of BFG AT's chunk out and have their cold weather and snow performance fall off of a cliff as they aged. While this is true to some degree of all tires My BFGs had worse traction then blah all seasons that were twice as old in literal A/B testing in the same weather on the same vehicle. Doesn't seem to be isolated for people living in 4 season states either, or at least we notice it more in those environments and I don't hear the same with the MT either. I am pretty happy with my Cooper ST Maxx's and I Think the AT hybrid market is where its at.
I agree that tire tech has come along way and you are pretty safe with any top tier tire. But no more BFG's AT's for me. Never experienced worse traction in snow than a three year old BFG AT. Worse than rock hard compound Michelin rally tires not meant to be ran under temps in the 40's even. Something about that particular model and their compound strategy is not for me.
I'd like to try a set of Cooper ST Maxx's at some point. Lots of people I trust have had great experiences. Cheers
Would you consider trying out a hybrid type tire with your next set to see how to see how they stack up to the all terrains and mud terrains, that would be awesome to see with someone with your experience and doing the kind of over landing stuff that you do.
I would, but it will come down to finding the right size/price tire for the next set. I do think that aggressive all terrains are the future. Cheers
I don’t hate the KM3 either but the California rocks really chunked mine ha
Thanks, I'm drunk and looking at Pirellis for my Tacoma.
Glad to help.🍻
Quilmes (kill mess) an Indian tribe in Arg. and a cool ruins to visit
My KO2's were to soft. KM3 37's have been on point in my Best in the Desert experience.
would you review the BF Goodrich Trail Terrain and KO3?
Yes! Hoping our next set of tires will be the KO3 in a month or two.
thanks for the tire info. I run 35 KM2s on my 80 series , and I really like them. Quite and aggressive . Request...... Please make a video on How to Drive off road, like when and How to go from all wheel drive into H /low. I do mostly Fishing /camping trips and I know sooner or later I am going to go off road. Thanks again and be safe.
Thanks, appreciate the suggestion. We'll do it
@@DirtSunrise Awesome. 🍻
Some good info!
Everyday we learn a bit more, thanks.
We used to had General´s A/T on a Jeep IKA 1964 (Industrias Kaiser Argentina) back on the 90´s, any thoughts on general´s now a days?
Nothing too concrete. They are the title sponsor for Overland Expo the last couple years so most people have taken them up on their discounted or free tire offers and I haven't heard anyone speak negatively about them. Sure, everyone getting a deal is biased, but we generally speak pretty openly to each other if something sucks, even if they got it for free.
You guys.... I was dunk halfway through the video. 🍻
Haha!! I should have advised low % beer this time!
I have a road racing background, and new to overlanding. Made the mistake of purchasing bias ply off road tires....
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oh nooooooooooooooooooo!
Great video, Tim!
Thanks man! 🤙
I'm new to the channel, like how you you explain in detail. But I have a question. What is up with the blinking numbers?
That's me making fun of myself for slapping my leg compulsively.
@@DirtSunrise OK?
@@DirtSunrise , Great, now you have me watching for it.
Did I just see a Cruiser pull a Land Rover out of shite?? 🤔🤣
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I just don't like how the tread depth looks even shallower on the KM3's. We need deep lugs here in the northeast
I think new they may be bigger than the KM2, but I can't remember where I read that. Up there I assume a serious mud specific tire would be nice!
Thanks for putting this video together. Very helpful. What can you say about narrower vs wider tires? Are there certain characteristics that favor a wider tire (~315 range)? The reason I ask is that I've been looking to replace the tires on my 80 and someone recommended I go with a narrower 255/80/17 set of tires. What are your thoughts on this subject?
Thanks, If I could get a KO2 in roughly a 35" height, but closer to 11" wide, I'd buy it. (There are some options in racing non-dot legal tires or tires I don't like, but no options for this I like)
Like anything both wider and skinny tires have their strengths and draw backs, but overall for Overland I like narrower tires. The majority of tread area increase when you air down comes from the tire elongating and not getting any wider so a skinny tall tire can nearly match the surface area of a wider tire. If you're bored you can do an ink blot test on your tires at different psi and watch the tread area grow. Also, a narrower tire will be easier on your power steering and give you better... or less poor mileage.
The negatives of the tire you mentioned would be the lower volume of the tire. So, less effective absorption of bumps, meaning the tire wouldn't act as a component of your suspension as much. Also, in situations where flotation is your number one goal a tire on a larger wheel that is skinnier and less tall (less tire internal volume), you just wont get the flotation of a bigger volume time.
@@DirtSunrise Thanks again and great info! BTW I hope you guys are able to travel back to goose soon, but also glad to know you made it back to the states safe and healthy, and before travel basically stopped.
@@joh99033 Also narrower tires are better in ice, but for towing/handling a 285/70r17 on a 7.5 or 8 inch wide wheel will be better then a 255/80r17 on a 7 or 7.5 inch wide wheel.
Thanks for the review, just watch it in October 2021.
Question, I ordered a brand new Iveco Daily 4x4 with Michelin XZL tires in the size 255/100 R16. I wil put on an expedition Camperbox this winter. Should I use this heavy but great ‘skinny’ 37” Offroad tire, or change it to a new set of more wider 12.5R17 - 37” tire from BF Goodrich, like the Mud Terrain KM3? We can’t buy the 37” All Terrain tires here in Europe from BF Goodrich!
I think for pure offroad and slow travel the XZL is great. Very tough tire. Here in the states people like the more modern style BFG/Cooper/Toyo etc tires because they ride really smooth at higher speeds and last a long time. These more modern tires are still really tough, but definitely second to the XZL.
@@DirtSunrise thanks for the quick response, I keep the Michelin tires! Greetings from the Netherlands and good luck with your ferry to Alaska. You both have a great channel and an inspiration for traveling with 4x4 true nature. 🇳🇱❤️🇺🇸💪✌️👍🥇
How do you fund your trips? Is it safe for Americans to travel the way you do in Central and South America?
Hey there,
Mostly it was years of saving. Once we left we fly home to work for a few months until we have enough to continue. On the road we do whatever remote work or consulting we can and the videos provide a couple gas tank fill ups a month too.
Yes, statistically it's safer in the countries we were in than the states. As far as the feel, it's generally poorer countries so it doesn't always "feel" safe, but in our experience and others it is.
There are thousands of other travelers from countries all over the world to meet as you travel as well so you're never alone.
Cheers,
@@DirtSunrise Seems like an awesome life style. I would've to drive to Patagonia someday. Thanks a lot for the informative response.
@@jla3772 people will tell you, even family, that you'll die on a trip like this. If you want to do it, do it. Cheers
I am running a 2022 jeep Mojave. And was going to switch from my falken wild peak at3 to the KO2. Two questions
1). Any thoughts about that decision?
2). When I go off-road, I’d like to run sand beaches on the Texas gulf coast hard (35mph+) in the softer sand and have been airing down on my wild peaks to about 15 pounds. If I buy K02 do you recommend a C class tire or an e class tire and does the airing down differ for those two tires?
I think the Falkens have come a long way and are a great tire. I do prefer the KO2's, but they're similar.
A C class tire will splay out and grow a larger footprint easier than an E, but a softer more pliable tire can sometimes unseat from the bead a bit more easily. If you go C go a bit higher on the PSI at first to see how it acts in the sand and go from there. My guess is about 18psi will feel like 15 with E's. Then you can go further if you need to.
@@DirtSunrise thank you so much! for what it’s worth, I’ll take what you say to the bank, you have that kind of cred. I hope the best for you guys!
What you thoughts on Cooper STT pro?
Great tire! We just had a set of Cooper Discovers that we'll do a review video of.
First time I watch one of your videos and definitely looks like you know what you are talking about. I live in Baja, and Im building a mild/capable Bronco prerunner. For this kind of terrain, what tires would you recommend? Guessing is kinda similar to Sonora. Toyo MTs and this KM3 were my first two options, but I would like your opinion for sure. Thanks and keep the videos going man!
Cheers, for all the beaches and silt beds I'd go AT's, but when it rains the KM3's would be nice! We spend a lot of time on the beach so I default to the KO2'S
Have to ask what are the numbers flashing at the bottom of the screen
Haha, that's me making fun of myself for hitting my leg so much. 😆
Alright, I've got a Corona (with lime) in hand. Let's do this!
Perfect! About to go live on Instagram to answer some questions. Beer in hand. 😆
I’m drunk 🍺😆
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next time Tim should have to stop and take a drink out of his beer every time he slaps his leg, he will get waisted 😂
I wouldn't have survived! 😆 The funny part is that I didn't know I was doing it until I started editing the video. 🍻
How would mud tires
KM3 work in snow?
In my experience not great, but these have a lot of siping so they work better than any previous BFG mud terrain in snow. If your talking powder snow wheeling Mt's do pretty well.
This video is a knee slapper!
A real humdinger!
I love bfg but my last set of ko2's i only got 15k miles out of them. Actually 15k is being generous. Honestly I don't think I got 10k on my f250
Will these work on my Jeep Gladiator rubicon
Will these fit on a Toyota corolla?
100% yes
Liar . Love y’all . Better be right to that wo man. Hope y’all are well.
Is it KM3 good on road like ko2???
It's good for a Mud Terrain tire, but it's louder and not as good as the KO2 in the rain.
@@DirtSunrise what about snow??
@@user-zm1si7up7b The KO2s are snow rated so I'd assumed they'd do better on snow.
I caught on at #9.. anyone else?
LOL!
How do you get into mapping trails for a living man that would be an amazing job
Random luck, but it's immensely tedious logging in and photographing every sign, culvert, cattle guard, fire ring, fence, power line and a bunch of other things. Still, it's a great office! Doing it as we speak.
How is my luck looking today lol
Do you need a Jeep to tag along lol that sounds like a awesome job
You never know! If a team drops out we may need someone. WY is next. 😁👍
That would be awsome
I couldn’t drink that much in a week!
Tea, you were supposed to drink Tea!
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