Actual Reason of Joyboy's Death! One Piece Theory
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- Join us as we explore a theory about what really happened to Joyboy in One Piece! We'll discuss why he died and what it means for the story. Come learn with us as we uncover the secrets of this beloved series!
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Thats why kuma was testing luffys crew in thriller park especially zoro inorder to make sure no more betrayal occurs to joyboy luffy.
My theory is that it was the "Nami" of joyboys crew, we all know nami loves money, and if the theory that nami is a princess is true, than i can imagine what happened with imu
EDIT: YEA I KNOW, THE POINT OF MY THEORY *IS* THAT NAMI WONT BETRAY LUFFY
Damn
Well, no, he was on a mission from the revolution army to get them out of Dodge because they were about to be stomped and literally they would have been stomped if they kept going I'd save more than thriller bark where he was on duties but instead started talking to the crew and also literally tested zorros loyalty there
Basically is just repeat someone gonna eat nika fruit and died and eat then died
@@Dwayne_Pangan The fact is it's rare for a devil fruit user to awaken it. In case of sun god Nika fruit only joyboy and luffy have managed to awaken it, the speciality being able to use awakening ability as paramecia affecting surroundings and also have a form like mythical zoan that is sun god Nika.
They need make a series about the old joy boy even if only a few seasons
That is the end of the series.....
Yeah only one season of 1000+eps
Ya after one piece ebds we need a show about joy boy
i'd be more interested in rogers and ace's journey. especially since roger is the one starting the era of the pirates. also seeing it in the serie when he finally reach the one piece and just starts laughing. just hope oda will reveil the one piece in the manga and anime at the same time
Then after that joy boy prequel we need sun god nika story too haha
Devil fruits were not post joy boy he was the former holder of the Nika nika no mi. Zuniesha even says it’s the first time it’s been awakened in 800 years. Implying joybou awakened the fruit himself
hito hito no mi*
It's not Nika Nika no mi. No mi's are paramecia, and Nika is definitely not. It's the Nika fruit. Not the Nika Nika no mi, if it were the Nika Nika no mi, luffy(joyboy) would be able to control and command Nika instead of transforming into him.
@@dragoza600 human human fruit, model: nika. Just say what it is if you're going to be so specific. Don't be specific and secretive.
@@Clown_Syndrome It's called the Nika fruit. Zoans are called that way for short😐.
@@Clown_Syndrome almost everybody is calling the hito hito no mi model: Nika, the Nika fruit because that is its true name. It's a transformation so for short it is the Nika fruit.
Kozuki Toki was born during the void century and had a devil fruit. Devil fruits predate Joyboy's disappearance/death. But I do think that Joyboy's loss is what resulted in the creation of the Gomu Gomu no Mi. Like his soul literally became the fruit.
It's Nika there is no gomu the gomu became because of Luffy wanted to be a rubber guy and Nika gave him that power if his imagination is the limit to the power of Nika than he still didn't unlock all of it that's my thinking
@@TheZerosdno the fruit grants the user the body of rubber for battle purposes his power literally is his imagination
@@4kay-234 I have to disagree because by that WG would hunt him down from the beginning and not wait for him to evolve since they fought him once they should know about his powers but they didn't until he got gear 5
@@TheZerosdcouple things, the WG was trying to get to luffy since dressrosa, but luffy keeps going to remote places like zo/whole cake island/wano. All places where there’s no WG control (besides big mom, and she wanted his head fs). Additionally, we don’t know exactly how long they’ve known, but the WG hasn’t had possession of it in 800 years and they add that the fruit probably possesses a will of its own to evade them.
@@jimmyframe2198 they went after him because he is a pirate not because of his devil fruit
Im guessing joyboy had a dream and his crew apologized for not being able to help him make it happen
joyboy is a prince.
@@johncane2304 wheres it say he was a prince? If he was id assume of the great kingdom
@@keedoopop4900 the throne that actually seated by IMU is really the void century's throne
@@johncane2304 maybe but they said the great kingdom was destroyed and most of the world nobles used to live on god valley before going to red mountain so idk if its the same place as the great kingdom
@@keedoopop4900 it would be possible,knowing that kingdoms may had some traitors
Based on Anime and manga, my theory was that the Ponegliff from fishman island was joyboy's apology to the past Queen of fishman island, because they promised to relocate all fishman to the surface world using the Noah ship (Giant Ship pulled by sea kings using Poseidon's/queen's power) but something happend to Joyboy before this so he is apologizing to the past queen due to not fulfilling the promise
The giant robot now on the egghead island must have tried to fulfill Joyboy's last wish but something stopped him from doing so, then the last thing he does was to try and get revenge on celestial dragons before losing power on marijoa. Then when gear 5 luffy powers him again his first words were apology to joyboy.
I think this is somehow related because the year that Giant robot attacked marijoa was the same year that the fishman island joined the world government. So something must have happend on fishman island to make them ally with world government (betrayal or something like a threat that the giant robot can't forgive/do anything about it; as he is a friend of joyboy and enemy of 20kingdoms/WG)
Someone pin this comment, I'm sure I'm up to something here. Haha
bro I adore your theory wich could be relatable, very veridic and truthful fr you've cooked it
Dude this is really true. Like it’s so much evidence in this comment 😅
I'm gonna screenshot my comment for when the reveal comes haha
yes u make sens but one more thing it's make no sens luffy don't like controled by anyo he don't care about "died" as long he are free man i think he gonna be so mad he would past tempo machine asking to vegapunk clone i guess cuz i remember clearly oden wife toki ahs a message for luffy and vegapunk "don't come or don't make tempo machin" guess what? imu sama may be luffy!!! i find strange he had memory stock in freezing like mugiawara portray vivi i think all stock freezing is all his crew mugiwara object after all law gonna make him immortal im pretty sure something happen luffy vs imu but im sticking he gonna be so angered on last chapter* im sure about that*
I guess Franky is like a robot from joyboy's crew. The robot that apologised. Chopper is like Zunesha. Nami is like Imu.
Nami-imu????
@@broderickdulaney1536 yup
Ryuma is like zoro
@@EDGARMORENOjr I am talking about Joyboy's crew. Ryuma was not from his crew + they are not similar. Ryuma only used 1 sword style and he didnt lose any battle. They are just blood related
Tbh zoro is more of an imu, im guessing imu got betrayed by hus closest friend imu, in luffys case thats zoro
I believe they where apologizing for not protecting him well enough
Wouldn’t it be crazy if Joy not used to wear the straw hat
We didn’t know that yet. Oda has pulled unexpected plot many times and I think what the obvious plot that we all are assuming that his crew betrayed them is probably not gonna be true. Cause what he left behind in laugh tale is a story full of joy not a sad betrayal story. Apology can mean many thing. The Robot probably Apologised because it failed to full fill the goal set by Joy Boy.
That can be true but. Still we dont decide wether they betray him or not
Or he's just not thick, saw it coming, and prepared accordingly
A sort of 'Judas' situation
Same bcoz if the joyboy was betrayed and the story will be revealed at the laughtale I don't think it will much of laughter
Avijit❤❤@@Jm_plays514
Imu position never seemed that small in the story, the Rev's are speculating Imu is one of the Twenty Kings.
Ima say joyboy was the ruler of the ancient kingdom and imu was his younger brother who wanted to rule and betrayed him to become ruler of the world
What are the 20 kings?
@@Im_spaceguy 20 kings are 20 countries that turned against the great kingdom 900 years or so ago and are now the 19 families of the celestial dragons theres 1 family that didnt become world nobles
@@keedoopop4900 ok thank you
@@keedoopop4900It’s like y’all forget the whole theme of Joyboy and the Sun god. The whole thing is based on freedom just like how luffy says he doesn’t want to rule but the most free person can become the PK. This aligns with joyboy being a warrior of liberation, being a ruler would confront that.
really, cause my personal theory is Joy Boy's death was the cause by the Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Nika itself. This idea came from the fact that Luffy been using his life force to fight for a while now. Those that were sorry for Joy Boy's death not by betrayal but cause like Samurai retainers will have suffer great shame after their master/friend die.
Joboy deserves an world
Honestly I think that betrayal played a part in it but I believe that the betrayal happened after he used Gear 5 to it's absolute max time and power then reverted into the exhausted old man just like what happened to Luffy during the Kaido fight and after the short lived fight with a Mister Rob Lucci on Egghead.
Theory: the iron king was actually apart of joyboys crew and they were all forced to fight to the death which is why he said "im sorry joyboy"
Theory confirmed- Wapol was from the void century and his metal created the iron giant
Joke
@@abel3557Ye no he isnt
Sun god nika and joy boy is different person's
Yeah, i thought they were different, but i heard joyboy was born as a rubber man
@AlejandroRivas-vi9kr that's because Joyboy ate the sun god nika fruit, Devil Fruits come into existence through imagination or a want for something , The real Sun God Nike was also rubber but he didn't need to eat a devil fruit
Every one betrayed him then they all face instant karma 😂
I heard that you can control the effects of your devil fruit powers if they come in contact with a different person but the power didn’t come from your devil fruit (only if awakened) so I think Imu is using the mizu mizu no mi (water fruit) to make it so that if a devil fruit user comes in contact with water they loose their abilities
I honestly think Imu was Joy Boy, or if not someone like Momo who Joy Boy helped become King only for a Blackbeard era figure to Switch his mind.
""Luffy and his companions go back to the time and nami got separated from the crew for some time then kings offered her loads and loads of money then nami kills luffy and form world government so current imu was basically nami all along and that robot was franky and ruyma was zoro who changes his name in past""." thank me later"
What if, it was all about the trust of the crew on the captain. Something that joyboy's crew didn't show. Zumesha-chopper. Gaint robot- Franky.... Oda given hints. (Luffy's crew trust him more then their life) Advantage advantage. Pirates/explore/adventure is all about the leader and the crew.....😊😊
According to my theory theory no mi os that dragon totally knows the void century because of oharas so he isn't trying to attack the world government with his fleets but it would make sense that he is creating the fleet that will support the joyboy which is gonna be in last because of he didn't waited for joyboy after knowing void century then he will have already did a all out war instead of staying hidden. Who agrees likes
Ironically, he was shocked to hear about Imu (from Sabo) at the Pangaea castle
@@jimtan8472 I didn't said he knew about imus existence, what I am saying is he knows void century history and about how world government was formed
And the ones who betrayed him are now the 5 elders, given immortality to serve under Imu.
"Luffy does not care about anything"
Meat: really bro
The history of one peice is not a tragedy.... But a comdedy .... Everyone in the rogers crew were laughinh 😂
the devil fruit is the people of the ancient kingdom....
If devil foods didn't exist until after joyboy's death then How is he the only other confirmed user of luffy's fruit meaning devil fruits existed before joy boy plus the former time fruit user traveled from over 800 years in the past
Also Odens wife has had her fruit since.
Because the only 2 users of luffys fruit ever were joyboy and luffy no one else
@@samlewis_19 that is something we don't know. There could easily have been other users of it in the past 800 years
It refers to DF's secret, but no one said it in anime if it been used after his death or before, vegapunk should knew about it
@@ahmadabdulwahid9148 No devil, fruits have existed as long as the one piece world has existed.They are part of the nature of that world We have no idea if there was a gum gum fruityester between joy boy and luffy The only thing you know is they'd never awoke the fruit if they did exist As joyboy and luffy are confirmed to be the only ones To ever awaken the fruit.
Strongest man in one peice ( all time) 🔥
oda should make a series on joyboy
Now we know Joyboy and Nika are 2 different people.
That makes sense since he was seen as a God in his time period hence the name Sun God Nika so the one who would kill him would be his own crew
Bro joyboy and nika are 2 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT people
Joyboy died when Emeth broke into his cryo chamber 200 years ago when he climbed the grand to kill him, in order to allow his will and devil fruit to reincarnate.
If this is your theory then theoretically nami can be Imu's daughter Oda Sensei had given many hints.So,Nami can betray Luffy just like Imu Betrayed Joy Boy.
what hints im curious
I honestly think it was a combination of all three
He was betrayed by someone, and things just went down from there He's allies began to die and get locked up, and all they could do was apologize for not accomplishing their goals together or dying before him
Finally, after apologizing to the fish man, he was defeated and killed in a final battle that herald the end of the Void Century with his death(as Vegapunk said)
They are all apologizing for not being there for Joyboy when he was executed, the same way like when Luffy almost died by Buggy and his entire crew was running to help out but couldn't make it in time
No wonder “Monkey” D. Luffy is sun god “nika”
d were the highest race on one piece i think so, thats why everyone is afraid of that clan, and they can turn their dreams into real...remember teach said peoples dream have no end
Bro i thinks that the crewmate that betrayed joyboy was imu sama maybe she betrayed and killed joyboy and decided to form world government
joyboy and nika are different individuals
He was so strong he could do a blackflash
Warning : if akainu fans comment in your comment ignore them thy just npc who don't know anything
We need a story about the original Sun God Nika
True bit when kuma tested luffys crew in thriller park where zoro jas a chance of bearing luffys suffer and pain and he did it but i dont think luffy will die from betrayal i think hewoukd die either from the short lifespan he will ahve at the end or from an enemy
I think that joyboy had the same dream as luffy but in his crew imu betreyed him and froze him to death because imu wanted to become the king of the world and not let anyone know who joyboy is and all about him so thats why imu also killed who anyone who spoke of it.
I think that devil fruits are souls of humans after someone's death like every human we wish that person or animal come back like every human will mourn and they will be revived as fruits specifically zoans because if you awakened a zoan it will take over your body to take over its host after being awake
Joyboy is like the founder titan of one piece
I think it also has something to do with luffys fruit is actually a imagination fruit that can turn any willders imagination into reality like the fire fist that luffy developed in memory of ace
To be exact honestly the dawn pirate crew are the reason luffy dies bc they dont understand how to actually be correct and direct, also because only one crew member new luffys true identity
When speaking of what Devil Fruit Imu has, one can only narrow it down to another version of the Hito Hito no Mi. In the case of Imu, this Devil Fruit could be the Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Akuma. It is clear that Imu will have a very overpowered Devil Fruit ability that could, in some ways, parallel Luffy
Joyboy flipping everyone off
Bros, When Joyboy started his journey, he had everything. He was part of Gods Kingdom, but luffy is different. Oda has hinted many times and luffy himself never called himself Joyboy, he differentiate himself by saying that Joyboy guy , while others relate him to joyboy. The World in which luffy and JoyBoy lived are vastly different. Luffy lived his life in poverty and you have not forgotten junkyard in his hometown, where three brothers tried to gather some money by fighting Bandits for venturing into sea as their dream. Luffy is a grounded man, risen from dirt. The people he searched as comrades, have deep scars of tragic history and nightmares and they find consolation with each others. People who looked liked betrayed luffy in his journey e.g Nami, Sanji, Ussop....they were nothing, they had no grand dreams. It was luffy who took them Grand Line and gave them Grand dreams World Map, ALL Blue, Brave Warrior of Sea. They were not perfect people, he put them forward in battles , toughen them and taught them Comradery. In beginning luffy already said, it doesn,t matter he die for his dream to become Pirate King. Betrayal he already accepted from the beginning, he already knew his crew members were not slaves, but friends. He had already said we are 'Nakamas' in his whole Journey and it also means that he has already accepted their freedom of choices.........LUFFY---- DEATH IS THE ONLY THING, THAT WILL OF 'D' NEVER FEARS. MORTAL ENEMIES OF GODS.
I don’t think they were a pirate crew, but leaders of a nation like O’Hara theorized
The background music bops!
imu betrayed him but did not kill him because if she did that then his will and his devil fruit will be recarnitted so imu put him in a giant freezer so his devil fruit would not work so the giant robot killed him for the next joyboy
Am i only noticing, big joyboy with white beard looks like Gramp, may be Gramp is related to him somehow. Same smile and beard style.
kizaru: *who caaaaaaaaaaaares*
I think bros cooking something 🤨
Yeah, fkn botulism. ALL of his theories are straight up garbage he is just a money hungry clown using this AI shit for easy content
Is the manga panel at the beginning a real depiction of Joy Boy?
No, its a old fan made one thats been around for years now
@@Abionx okay ty, I just see it a lot and it looks semi official
Joyboy is not dead.
He is still on Laugh Tale and bound on the island. He separated the fruit from his soul to pass it to the next. Maybe the OP OP No Mi has the power to separate fruits from its owner.
Joy boy was one of the top 2 most powerfull being of his time who was king and hero of achient kingdom who ate the nika fruit and face imu and his allies loosing the war where wg came to exist also he most likely is a pirate captain too bc thsts the whole narative of him creatibg pirste treasure and he probably is the one who left messages for future gen like pinecliff,it could have also been a love conflict too and maybe joy boy crew makes mistskes or betray him that led yo his lost too thats why the apologise and joy boy will fused sith nika fruit and passed on i think all this is right and most of it is confirm and obviouse grest video .
Joyboy was no king. His whole theme is liberation and freedom.
@@JoeGoldBergEnthusiast he can do that as the kimg of the achient kingdom
@@omarwrighy731 Remember when luffy said to Rayleigh he did not want to rule over anything? Since he’s the reincarnation of joyboy it wouldn’t make sense for them to have different ideals considering they share the same qualities in everything else.
@@JoeGoldBergEnthusiast they might be simmilar in most things but not everything luffy will rule in the end too so did joy boy
@@omarwrighy731 Where did you get the idea that Luffy will rule in the end? In Saboady, Rayleigh literally asks him if he’ll rule the seas to become the PK but Luffy replies with a laugh that the freest person on the sees can become the PK.
A king is praised by his people yet Luffy never wanted that, look at Wano. Luffy never wanted the people to know that he liberated them from Kaido’s tyranny, and even thinking about the prospect of king they have so many commitments (look at momo) but Luffy just wants to be free. You can’t be truly free if you’re a king.
Joyboy wasnt called sun god nika he just ate the same fruit as luffy😂
Joyboy ate the Sun God nika fruit but hes not the original Sun God nika
I feel like zunisha was tricked buy another crew member into betraying Joy boy.
Maybe Zunisha and the ancient robot got tricked by Imu which afterwards led to Joyboy's death
Luffy is yet to get joyboys feats i feel like gear 5 is not enough.
Who just started to watch one piece 😅??
❤wait if people are saying Imu is luffy mom so how was imu was born that century 😢
Since zunesha has a punishment and he apologize to joyboy i suppose he is the one who betrayed him also joyboy knew it all along. Thats why he sealed his haki in emeth and for not saving joyboy emeth apologized.
Whats gets me is how someone so much like Luffy failed and died. Imagine luffy dying in the present one piece and everybody drowning as imu watches with a smile.
The original Joy boys death might relate to the story of Jesus where he was betrayed by one of his own.
Plot twist: toki was imu
The government didn’t kill joy boy 800 years ago they captured him frezzed him. Joy boy was kill by giant robot 200 years so his devil fruit can reborn.
But it doesn’t really explain why Zanesha and the robot would apologize to him unless they had something to do wit the betrayal of joyboy
We need 100k more episodes
Betrayal over use of powers probably cut down his life too, been noticing that's a cycle with all the strongest Rogers, Joyboy, Luffy. It's almost fated that they die in similar ways so the cycle can continue
Roger illness is unknown but strongly related with over usage of conquer Haki. Luffy lifespan was shorted by Ivan job revival, and his over use of his gears. So it’s completely different
that woman from Joyboy's crew look like Imu,
One Piece have many timeline
- Nika era
- Joyboy n Ancient Kingdom
- Ryuma
- God Valley
I dont know how Oda gonna finish this in 5 year
Hope they make them to moviess or episodes
O ya emu is the reason why people who are a devil fruit can’t swim
No devil fruits have existed for thousands and thousands of years before joyboy.
Devil fruits are the will of D. Once he learned he was going to fail, he went to the kouzukis in Wano and had them create the ponoglyphs. And maybe, as a God, he used his power of imagination to spread the Fruits world wide. so that one day heroes might regain the power to save the world.
I am gonna make my own theory
I think gorosai and imu was joyboys crews.
You see because joyboy had a god like powers, like that imu and gorosai has also god like powers. And they were against the 20 nations. But due to greed imu decides to betray joyboy and gorosai joined imu and they won against joyboy and freezed him and the giant robot might have killed him to reincarnated into the fruit. Giant robot and zunesha might have felt unworthy of living becuase they can ssve their captain and decided to sleep until luffy's fruit awakened. And imu and gorosai might have manupilated the 20 nations makiing them believe that joyboy and their crew is dead, so the 20 nations put their sword in the throne room (peace treaty).
Just for fun😅😅😅
We’ll see that very soon but what is sure 100% is that We still haven't seen anything of Nika's actual powers! Can you imagine a giant Nika ? And to who don’t like the Gear 5 I’d like to say that the combination of stupidity,funny stuff,god aura,demonic face ecc.ecc. Is amazing ! Shout out to master Oda ✌🏼
Joy Boy IS luffy. He travels back in time with his crew by the treasure "ONE PIECE", a time travel device. They then leave trails and a message at laugh tale where god D roger pirates find and laugh...because luffy writes his story and left a funny message. Thank you.
Travel to the past is impossible, even toki confirmed this. Becuz ever instant of backward time travel creates an alternate reality, if you don’t do things exactly how it should be in the original timeline.
@zoeking95 Let's say that the 100-year void had an advanced civilisation, we can confirm this by...say...autonomas robots. It's just my theory, but who knows.
You don’t think zoro will betray luffy do you
It’s like, Joyboy was in love with Imu and Imu betrayed him somehow and broke his heart 💔
… wait but they said the apology that was wrote on Fishman island always to the Fish people. A apology that he didn’t get to take them to the surface 😩 😑
may be that's why Giant Robot attacked marie joies
I don’t think anyone betrayed him, they just didn’t believe him. Most likely about Imu
My question: Why did the previous owner of brook's fruit didn't come back to life?
Joy boy is inside luffy he uses when needed (Gear 5)
He was just shot by a celestial dragon.…
The one thing I hate about these is that they say deku like it’s his real name…
Ya imu was in with him but something happened and she was part of his crew they were the first pirates the elephant ,and robots were friends he ran into and wen he was about to die they didn't step in to help him black Beard was there son raised by some else
What? Devil Fruits existed before him... We were directly TOLD that JoyBoy ate the Nika fruit....
Chopper = zunesha
Giant Robot= franky
Zoro = riyuma
I have a theory kido is not dead because someone had to discover his devil fruit because whenever a devil fruit user dies it loses its fruit
Joyboy and sungod Nika are both different person joyboy was born in ancient kingdom during void century and sun god nika is the king of elbaf joy boy and luffy both are reincarnation of sun god nika
The Sun God Nika didn't need to eat a devil right?
guaranteed the man who betrayed and killed him had the same devil fruit as Teech. Which will set up the final battle between Luffy and Teech.
What if Luffy is joy boy?
Think about it. He goes back to the past and something happens where he dies. Look at it from another point as well. Isn't there a prophecy of Luffy will destroy the fishman island? What if he destroyed it that time he went to the past? And wrote the apology to the inhabitants of the fishman island?
they did not call him sun god nika, nika was a actual person