Disney Wars - Gina Strikes Back
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- čas přidán 6. 02. 2024
- The world is a strange place, and its getting even stranger where Disney Lucasfilm is concerned. After firing Gina Carano from The Mandalorian a couple of years ago, she just announced that she's teamed up with Elon Musk in a major lawsuit against the company. Not only that, but Musk also hinted at a possible takeover bid with Nelson Peltz. Either way, Bob Iger is in a world of trouble right now.
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Disney is all about strong, independent women… until she has opinions that they don’t like.
The esg dei requirements needed to make a movie or show these days is pure evil.
Disney: "Where are all my fans? Are they mindless? Are they giving me money?" The investors: "it seems.. in your wokeness... you killed them"
Disney is about loud, entitled, obedient women.
@@aidens4669 the investors/shareholders CHOOSE the management. Come on
Then the 'tolerant' people want these women back in the kitchen.
They fired the one woman actress who actually looked like she could pull off her fight scenes. Off the top of my head, she may have been the buffest canon human in star wars.
Yes, she doesn't look flimsy. She could flip cattle over for branding.
@@hermask815 as a woman from eastern Oregon, that is a high compliment.
I loved seeing her in Haywire, Fast & Furious 6, and Deadpool. She was definitely one of the high points of those films.
@@christopherregan1654 I loved her in those roles too. But she's good only for the fight scenes. She's no Anya Taylor-Joy when it comes to acting, let's face that. I think Mandalorian gave her the most lines.
Dunno about that. Luke was pretty ripped in Empire
This lawsuit is actually more interesting than anything disney has shat out over the past year.
someone should make a movie about it.
I dunno, I am excited to take my kids to see the sequels to Inside Out, Moana and Zootopia.
@@Wasserkaktusshame on you
Decade
@@psychedelicsoul3260 Shame on me for treating my kids? Lol guess what? No one gives a sh*t about you.
"Smearing" isn't the word i'd use to describe what Disney did to Gina. No, it was more like a career assassination attempt, the "you'll never work in this town again" kind of defamation
They made every effort to establish her as 'persona non grata' within the hollywood industry. It certainly strengthens Gina's case if this does make it to court hearings.
You know what’s really funny? Disney went out of their way to try and paint her as a Nazi sympathizer, then she gets hired by Ben Shapiro at the Daily Wire, and now the kinds of people who were outraged at her “anti-Semitism” can be spotted at pro-Palestine rallies chanting “from the river to the sea!”
Don't forget antisemitism
I'd say she has a case, just hope some woke Cali-commie judge doesn't derail it but Elon's lawyers having her back should help... Didn't know Elon was going after Disney😃!! Hope he gets it🤞
And it wasn't even a political or business assassination. It was a personal and vindictive attack on her character.
She had the audacity to be a strong and independent woman.
by making extremely insulting comparisons?
@@user-gd8fn7qn7r you mean like Pasqale did?
@user-gd8fn7qn7r Was what she said worse than when Pedro Pascal compared Trump voters to Nazis and Confederate slave owners?
@@voutsider190 yeah, that is also insulting.
I think she forgot she wasnt a jew and would therefore actually suffer consequences for not being in the... club.
Disney: "YOU TURNED EVERYONE AGAINST ME!"
Gina Carano: "You have done that yourself!"
Ah great comment
You are not gonna take views away from me!
Your greed and your lust for message have already done that.
Disney: "You will not take (Star Wars) from me!"
Only Disney.....I mean.....Sith, deals in absolutes
Friends come and go, but enemies accumulate.
disney hired a mma fighter and was shocked that she was a mma fighter lol
LMFAO!
LOL
Zing! perfect
No, they were shocked that a woman who got a role in a movie that she would never had gotten if the right was still in power over the media, supported right leaning politics.
It's like biting the hand that feeds you.
I really hope they don’t agree to settle out of court. Disney needs to be humiliated for the whole world to see. You make your bed, you lie in it.
Indeed. Humiliated and exposed!! Drag it out for a long long time, continue the disastrous PR and encourage many of those who have been wronged to take Elon up on his offer.
It's going to be a tough case for her to win. She is a public figure, so under US defamation law, she would have to prove "actual malice" i.e. that Lucasfilm's tweet was a claim of fact (not just an opinion) which they knew was false, and they tweeted it with the intention of harming her reputation. I doubt she can even prove the first one of those criteria.
@@adrianmizen5070 not a lawyer but why would they say she was "disgusting and abhorrent" if they were not intending to harm her reputation?
If Disney loses the law suit then the person who wrote that post will be never found, along with their family.
Drinker is making more and more duboius statements like saying "Caranos statements were poorly worded" and then virtuesignalling
" I would never have said anything like that" WTF!
Is he hoping to be accepted by the mob or just is he just greedy?.... I noticed similar sneaky bootlicking from him for a while now...
Disney: "We love strong, independent women. Well, unless they're too independent. Or too strong for that matter."
Or, they love strong independent characters who are women, not actual strong independent women.
She will win this fight.
So long as they agree 100% with us they can be as independent as they want. That's just common sense.
Or just spread lies.
@@zaco-km3su
There are a great many parallels between Neo-Liberals and the National Socialist German Workers' Party!
Lmao
"One of the problems with strong, independent women is that they're strong and independent."
Disney is exposing its hypocrisy by showing that in fact, they prefer vocal, opinionated women _that they control completely._
There hasn't been anyone claiming they're being "controlled" by Disney. Also, private companies can fire anyone for basically anything. The Drinker even admitted that and said he wouldn't have handled it the way Gina did. This is a nothingburger with a side of click bait. They'll settle and it will quickly disappear.
@@greggibson33 One MouseBuck™ has been deposited into your SlopBucket.
Yeah , because a company that you work for telling you what opinions you can and cannot say is not trying to control you at all...
@@greggibson33
*There hasn't been anyone claiming they're being "controlled" by Disney*
You missed the point entirely. They are being 'trained' in how to act, what philosophy to follow, what to say etc.
They get rewarded with fame and fortune for their service. The point was, that they are neither 'strong', nor 'independent', in context of this. They are 'weak' and 'reliant'.
*Also, private companies can fire anyone for basically anything*
True, but that's behind closed doors. This was very public and very political.
*They'll settle and it will quickly disappear*
Like the Depp case - the reason to go to court is to make a point. It won't be silent.
@@greggibson33 No, private companies cannot, in fact, fire you for basically anything, that's why wrongful termination suits exist.
Ex-Lucasfilm here. That company is so vile on the inside, more than you can imagine.
If you actually are I gotta ask if it was as bad in the 2010s or is this Disney as well?
i worked too with disney, but on their restaurant. Vilest company i ever worked, we were treated like rat slaves and they even spied our social medias. Also 1/3 of the staff were enslaved illegal immigrant who worked even 16 hours straight for less than the minimum wage. I dated one girl of those and one day she worked 20 hours straight
Never in my life i felt so de-humanized, we were just drones
@@spiffygonzales5160 good question and others have asked me that. Before 2013, we call it the GWL days, it was different. It wasn't great. GWL was out of touch. Divisions like ILM and Skywalker sound (that did strictly contract work for other studios) didn't quite feel it as others IMO. Take for example the TV animation division (LAL). During all-hands people would ask management "what's the roadmap? what are we doing a year from now?" and there were never really answers because the only reason they had jobs is while GWL was having fun. He never really had a plan. People were trying to buy homes and have families and week by week there you were at the mercy of a disconnected billionaire who didn't even know how to make his people feel appreciated during the holidays. It may sound dumb, but one sign that GWL was out of touch was how lame the christman gifts were. Seasoned employees grew used to it and it became an annual joke, new hires were always shocked. GWL put Mich Chau in charge for around 10 years until the reign of KK (who fired Mich) and Disney. She was even more out of touch with the creative atmosphere and was considered one of his biggest mistakes. When she was canned, VFX supe John Knoll walked through the hallways ripping all her terrible feng shui shit off the walls.
When KK came in there was some short-lived optimism. For the first time, ever, KK presented the company with a 10 year plan and roadmap of projects. That was the first time we ever saw a plan for anything. Then she introduced her nepotism hires in the story team. It was slow. We didn't feel the darkness immediately. Like a case of herpes that hadn't yet flared up. We heard lots of talk of various projects being scheduled. There was, for the fist time, some sense of security felt that many of us NEVER felt with GWL.
I think the first time I really felt something was wrong was after the company/employee screening of "The Force Awakens". The next day at work, many of us were in awe. Quiet and uncomfortable in the elevators. Also, this was time when division between old friends started to take shape. Some of the worst fanboys you will ever meet work(ed) there. If you just said "I don't know, I didn't like it" people would snap. Arguments in the cafeteria. We had an internal messenger system (called BAM) would "bam" you and start arguments because they heard you didn't like 100% of the film. Anything you pointed out that you didn't like they would shit some weak argument out of thin air about how stupid you are and don't get it and then unfriend you on social media. You could not have an opinion against the new movies. You HAD to support them 100%. I dunno, this wasn't the case in the GWL days. Lots of stories of lead animators emailing the VFX supe begging him to talk to GWL about Jar Jar because how terrible it was to animate and they feared audiences would hate it.
One small change that I think impacted the spirit the company used to have was dumbing down of the Halloween party. Halloween parties were off the hook. There used to be guidelines and rules (boy do I wish I kept the emails) that would say things like
- no costumes over 25' tall
- no flame throwers
- no diesel engines
- no projectiles
You just knew that the old model builders of ILM must have done some crazy things over the years. Despite the rules, lots of great costumes and great parties. Disney killed that. The studio campus itself started to change. Less of the occupants were Lucasfilm. As they consolidated people down to smaller spaces. Moved others to Vancouver, Singapore, or London. More and more the common areas started to fill with tech and real estate companies. You would see them outside around campus, at the Starbucks in building C, and in the commons (cafeteria). The name of the company was removed from other the reception desk. Some decorations (old studio props) were removed. That feeling in the air that you were a part of something special began to fade.
In her defense, KK did campaign to keep a couple traditions. The annual 4th of July picnic at Skywalker Ranch. The annual free turkey (and they were huge!) for Thanksgiving. It may not sound like much to tech employees in SF getting huge stock bonuses these days, but back then it meant something to us.
I miss many of my friends. Had some great laughs on late nights over drinks at our desks. However, I would never work there again. There's so much to unpack I would not know where to begin or how structure my stories. Not sure if this made much sense or just comes across as incoherent rambling.
@@Scarl3t03 I experienced the social media spying too. It got so bad I deleted ALL my social media accounts. The straw for me was after working all day on Saturday chasing my ass on stupid last minute changes, I stopped by the bar for a drink on the way home. I took a picture of a margarita and posted it to my story simply saying "I think I earned this". On Monday a producer pulled me in their office and grilled me about that photo and comment "So what did you mean by that? You know you're not allowed to say anything negative about the company? Do you have something you want to say to us?". Went how that evening and delete everything. The next day "what happened to your accounts? Did you block me? Was it something I said? Maybe we need to talk about your attitude with HR?" and I don't recall what I made up, think I said some shit about a crazy ex or something.
@@spiffygonzales5160 I had typed a long response, and it is gone now… WTF?
It wasn’t great before Disney. There was other issues with that place. Typical organizational problems with bad management. But it wasn’t political back then. I have fonder memories before 2013.
Our city is having her as a guest at the nerd expo. There was a whole bunch of comments on the FB announcement about it that were negative. I bet none of those people even know why she was fired.
Sorry to hear that. I hope that most of the comments were still positive?
Weak people joining the leftist lynch mob so they wont get targetted themselves.
Большая часть этих соевых нытиков - сильны только в интернете, а не в реальном мире. Скандал с Джоан Роулинг и "Хогвартс Наследие" тому пример. Русские фанаты СТАРЫХ "Звездных Войн" - вместе с Джиной.
To quote a character Disney now owns: "Twice the pride, double the fall!" - Count Dooku
He pretty much got that from the Bible...I wonder how they let him get away with that!
@@skival
1) Dysney wasn't owning star wars at the time
2) That was Christopher Lee, and no one would dare try to silence Sir Christopher Lee
No. With Carano....she will probably have to settle. Why? She spread misinformation. She can argue that they fired her for her political beliefs but that's not a good situation. Also, Musk's lawyers are bad. I hope Musk is paying her lawyers because if she is using his lawyers, she will lose badly. Disney's lawyers are....the inspiration for Disney's villains. They're good also.
Drinker missed some key details about the lawsuit:
1) Gina is asking the court to force Lucasfilm to recast her. She wants to be re-employed by Disney.
2) She is only seeking $75,000 in damages.
3) She is using California's worker protection laws to file this lawsuit, laws which don't exist in conservative states.
So this lawsuit isn't about conservative values or free speech. She just wants to be on Disney's payroll again.
Whatever happens, both the Space Karen and the toxic mouse will lose and I’m ok with that.
If Disney were truly a family-centric company, they would be leading the way teaching tolerance, diplomacy and forgiveness. Instead, Disney acts like a punitive religious zealot.
They actually actively want the family to be broken up. It's easier to make people into zombies in a completely atomized society.
With their pagan unholy religion being "THE MESSAGE."
They are not family oriented. They are incorrect sexual orientation oriented...
That's what they are.
Leftardism is more of a cult.
Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate... Leads to suffering.
I sense much fear in you Disney
What’s hilarious is that Gina’s characters merchandise were the top selling ones by a mile? Disney would rather go bankrupt than to stop relaying “the message”? It’s insanity.
There’s been something more important to Disney than profit for a long time now.
It comes together with the counts of pedophilia and other affronts that they're trying to hide.
*loud hollow voice* "..THE MESSAGE.." still gets me everytime
Drinker missed some key details about the lawsuit:
1) Gina is asking the court to force Lucasfilm to recast her. She wants to be re-employed by Disney.
2) She is only seeking $75,000 in damages.
3) She is using California's worker protection laws to file this lawsuit, laws which don't exist in conservative states.
So this lawsuit isn't about conservative values or free speech. She just wants to be on Disney's payroll again.
I absolutely LOVE how this has caught on (looking at you, Paul Joseph Watson, among others). *THE MESSAGE* (with plenty of reverb)
NO ONE EXPECTS THE -SPANISH INQUISITION- MESSAGE!
my fav is ... MODERN AUDIENCES lololol
Drinker missed some key details about the lawsuit:
1) Gina is asking the court to force Lucasfilm to recast her. She wants to be re-employed by Disney.
2) She is only seeking $75,000 in damages.
3) She is using California's worker protection laws to file this lawsuit, laws which don't exist in conservative states.
So this lawsuit isn't about conservative values or free speech. She just wants to be on Disney's payroll again.
'Unfortunately Disney seems to be staffed mostly by people for whom the idea of having different viewpoints is as terrifying as hard work and accountability' 😂😂😂
This also made me chuckle !😂
So, so, so true!
WHAT different viewpoint, though? Hmm?
@@Markunator have you watched the video?
@@Cadence733 Yes, but it seems pretty telling that YOU didn’t want to say what the different viewpoint actually is…
Please stop being intentionally dense.
If you have watched what this video is all about,you will get the idea. Nobody has to spell it out for you.@@Markunator
"People for whom the idea of different view points is as terrifying as hard work and personal accountability."
Best put-down of the week!
Why should liberals accept a view point/ political ideoloy that directly will decrease liberal beleifs, such as equal rights for women?
You dont have the right to spread opinions that hurt others.
@@j.ceasar Having the right to spread opinions that hurt others is called Freedom of Speech. There is no right Not To Be Offended, it doesn't exist.
People _take offense_ at certain opinions, that is an active choice. THEIR choice.
Now, if I dehumanize or demonize specific people groups, or incite hatred against them, that is NOT (or shouldn't be) covered under Freedom of Speech. Except in cases where a higher body has judged the situation, as in calling Trump a rapist or Hamas a terrorist group. Those are facts, established by courts of law / government bodies. But having an opinion that clashes with your opinion, that just means your opinion is wrong. Usually. Because I think my opinions through and am open to correction. But dehumanizing me for my opinion, that is actual hate speech -- which is done far too often by people who get offended by someone's opinion.
So we have the weird situation where many people use actual hate speech because they accuse someone else, falsely, of using hate speech. That has a name, and it is HYPOCRISY.
Case in point: J.K. Rowling. Those who rail against her often use hate speech, while I have NEVER caught her in uttering actual hate speech. She does pose questions, and points out where women are endangered by policies that promote rights of trans people. But that is healthy debate, NOT hate speech.
@@TheEvertw If you and me had a country each.
I run my country with the belief that anyone who is against equality and inclusivity shouldn't be allowed their freedom
And you run your country and just let everyone say whatever they want.
Then after a couple of decades, my country would be infinitely more free than yours.
@@TheEvertw And you'd probably be surprised to learn that America is one of the few democracies that doesn't have laws against hate speech.
Opinions that hurt others literally aren't allowed in alot of parts in the world. Hate speech can give you prison time in democracies more developed than the US.
Your idea that people can choose to take offense is completely out of touch and very hypocrtitical.
If what you said was true I need to ask you, how can you blame disney for doing something wrong when YOU are CHOOSING to be offended over their politics?
@@j.ceasar I am fully aware that in the USA hate speech is allowed, and I am very much against that.
But an opinion is never hate speech unless it is some generalization like "All are stupid" or something like that. However, an opinion like "Unrestricted access to women toilets by self-identified trans women opens up these protected spaces to rapists" is pretty factual and can NEVER be hate speech. Though many would claim it is.
If that hurts your feeling, too bad, your feelings are wrong. We should not let feelings rule us, instead we should let ratio & conscience moderate our feelings.
I love that you used clips of Cara Dune absolutely kicking ass and wasting her opponents. Well done!
It is really surreal, watching a cornerstone of my childhood scoop up several other cornerstones of my childhood, then watch all of it collapse into complete and utter ruin before my eyes.
I feel the same
Welcome to modernity.
It's a sign that it's time to make our own stories.
Amen!
Eh, I say just sit back and enjoy the collapse. Just cause things suck now don't mean you can't enjoy the classics.
When Carl Weathers passed away a few days ago, one of the top articles was slamming Carano for ‘using Weathers’ death to further her agenda’. The article basically said she posted that Weathers called her to express his support for her views after Disney fired her.
In reality, her post was all about how Carl Weathers was like a mentor to her on the set of The Mandalorian, as they were both athletes turned actors.
These freaks cant help themselves.
Remember when Sean Connery died and an article released slamming his outdated views on life? If someone disagree with passes away, they'll slam them because its easy if theyre not alive to defend themselves
Are you trying to tell me that deriding a government which turns the citizenry against one another based on religion isn't the same thing as deriding the religious beliefs of the neighbors you don't like? Because I'm pretty sure when she said "Nazis are bad" what she really meant was "I hate Jews" 🙄
Anything in clickhole media can never be considered a 'top' article.
@nalgene247 Aint reading your yapping. No one gives a fuck
@@nalgene247 You might want to include a for the uninitiated.
If Elon is trying to acquire Disney then having Gina’s lawsuit go to discovery would be a clever way of getting dirt on Disney.
Lawsuits like this usually drive the stock price down, which is exactly what you want when you want to buy a company.
@@_Just_John If he ends up buying Disney I just may die by laughing too hard for too long...
Disney is a shit show but do you really want Elon in charge? This is probably the wrong comment section to say it but he is a dangerous megalomaniac
@@user-fm3pw4jk2xDo you think the change he brought to Twitter, after buying it was negative?
Elon doesnt have the money to buy Disney and its not like he would even want to@@_Just_John
Disney is real world embodiment of "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
"if it did go to court a lot of internal documents would be made public" please go to court, please go to court please go to court.
That documents, assuming they existed in a first place, just went in smoke and are you know....being retconned.
what documents?
@@purefoldnz3070 internal emails, notes, minutes, social media communication. Anything and everything.
If a court tells them to turn over e-mails and they say "There are no e-mails" then the court is going to look at criminal charges. You can't just delete things from a big IT system like that without leaving a record of who did what.
@@lostalone9320 true ... but there's a huge grey area between "there are no emails" and "we can't retrieve them"
Corrupt backups, not having functional backups, someone deleting them 'by accident', etc.
Just because you have backups that doesn't mean you can easily search through them and find what you want.
If Disney's lawyers are worth their money they'll find any excuse to have this drag on and on until Musk finds a new shiny toy.
It is significant that Disney went so far to slander Carano, first by announcing that she was fired (sending a signal to Hollywood not to hire her) and then to make false claims about her posts. She didn't have the financial ability to fight back, so they were clearly making an example of her.
If Disney didn't want to make an example of her, they could have simply written her character out of the show and kept quiet, and none of this would have happened. But they wanted to send a message (in addition to THE MESSAGE).
They didn't have to go that far. She wasn't exactly a regular character, and she was only in a handful of episodes. They could have just announced that she will not be returning for the next season without giving a reason and never mention the character again. Instead they went out of their way to make sure everyone knows that they fired her because she's got "the bad ideas."
Drinker missed some key details about the lawsuit:
1) Gina is asking the court to force Lucasfilm to recast her. She wants to be re-employed by Disney.
2) She is only seeking $75,000 in damages.
3) She is using California's worker protection laws to file this lawsuit, laws which don't exist in conservative states.
So this lawsuit isn't about conservative values or free speech. She just wants to be on Disney's payroll again.
Her family is rich she could have sued
it is the norm in the industry to blacklist conservatives
james woods is a prime example
@@papalegba6796 Very few people are rich enough to really challenge the Rat's legal department, they can drag it out for years till you start questioning if it's worth it.
California law explicitly protects an employee's off job political opinions, and prohibits forcing employees to make political statements. Discovery is going to be fun.
Disney's argument is that it has nothing to do with politics, that it is due to cultural insensitivity towards the Jewish people and experience of the Holocaust with her Instagram post.
The comparison of what the Jewish people went through and the supposed 'plight' of modern Conservatives is painful in its callus disregard for the cultural trauma that they share.
They asked her to stop and she continued to defense it rather than take it down and make a one line tweet saying 'I'm sorry if I offended any Jewish people, that was not my intent'.
That was it. She choose not to.
Sounds like emotional manipulation and pure drivel. We're allowed to humiliate you, degrade you, and remove you from your livelihood. And you should be glad that you're not being treated like actual Jews. Sure bud. Makes sense.
Unfortunately we have party members for judges and brainwashed sheep for jurors. I hope theybare smart enough to sue in aat least a red area so they have a chance of winning.
@@Steven_Edwards That's no what she said. Like you can literally go and see the original. There is no such comparison. Claims of it were entirely dreamt up by the establishment media.
@@Steven_Edwards waaaa 6 millions 😢😢
She certainly has been defamed. Even the infamous tweet, which I must’ve read reworded without context, looks way more normal now than what the media made it seem back then.
Drinker is making more and more duboius statements like saying "Caranos statements were poorly worded" and then virtuesignalling
" I would never have said anything like that" WTF!
Is he hoping to be accepted by the mob or just is he just greedy?.... I noticed similar sneaky bootlicking from him for a while now...
Her firing was actually a blessing in disguise because she skipped the atrocity that was Mando season 3
Good point.
It's pretty fucked up that the writers (and fanbase) keep forgetting that Bozo-Katan was the one who caused the downfall of Mandalore in the first place
Apparently all it took to wash the blood of hundreds, if not THOUSANDS of people off of her hands was a quick swim in a monster's toilet water
@@jeremyallen5974 Bo Katan being magically turned good is peak Filoni. She's a violent terrorist that murdered people. She ain't good
Gina being kicked off of Star Wars is what caused the entire collapse of their TV universe. She was the key to it all. It'd be like losing Iron Man before The Avengers came out.
@@MarvinPowell1I don't think she played a key part in Mandalorian. It was a good character but show was not about her. That's why season 3 failed - they forgot that name of the show was not Katan. Even if they bring Gina back it won't change a thing, the show is already dead.
This drama is far more entertaining than any Disney story line in the last 20 years.
I would say 15 years, pirates trilogy was damn good
You idiots keep falling for Elons stupidity. 😅😅😅😅 Elon can’t join a lawsuit against Disney as they have no issue with him. Not to mention, it’s not legal to finance the lawsuit of a person against another entity. Damn y’all are easy prey.
I would say 5 years, MCU phase 1-3 was pretty good.
I wish I could sue Disney for crapping on some of kids favorite childhood memories.
How humiliated can Disney possibly get at this point? What a joke.
Isn't Disney already disappointing?
Dead Pool 3 and others are gonna suffer for this... I ain't giving another cent to Disney.
“Disney is too big to fail.”
Me: That’s like saying “Too fat to diet”.
So was Rome, so was the British Empire, so was Napoleon, so was the USSR, so were the Mongols. Where are they all now? Gone, reduced, long dead, fractured, and gone, respectively
Denying the concept doesn't really explain government support to those corporate entities when they are in peril.
Titanic was too great to sink.
@@davidjob4909 When Rome fell, it took centuries to recover and in those centuries were poor living conditions, lost knowledge (thankfully those Christians nerds kept and recovered a lot of them), wars by fellow men and barbarians, and just a hopelessness to life. Had Rome survived then yes those would still happen but not as bad
So yes, too big to fail is a valid concern
@@lumethecrow You forgetting the crap that everyone went through before we recovered? Of course you did, it's a story the history books won't tell you
Funny thing about legal discovery in this case. Disney Managers and Executives were on an e-mail chain strategizing how they were going to deal with Gina. One of them accidently sent that e-mail directly to Gina. The details are in the court filing. It is basically irrefutable evidence of a corporate conspiracy to violate CA labor law.
The incompetence of the company is staggering
Secret Gina fan doing his/her part
@@080ization yup.. "accidentally".
@@080izationprobably their*
But why did she file in federal court? Isn't that a state court matter?
Judging from the fact that Disney's management was incapable of writing a decent official statement in Gina's case, it must be true that they had fired most of their senior and capable personnel.
You dont need a senior to figure out that conservatives doesn't have the right to enfore gender roles back into society. It directly negatively affects the lives of women everywhere.
"Hi bob." A callout heard around the world
Hopefully followed by “bye Bob” 🤞🏻🤞🏻
No one should ever take an offer of, "we'll give you your job back"... they will just fire you "properly" after...
The proper response would probably be "I don't like where the show has gone, I don't want to be associated with it any more. But thanks anyway."
Or they will make the working conditions so crappy for you that it will force you to quit
@anatole2478
They can try, but that is risky, because any documentation of it can be used in a "retaliation" suit.
Easier to hire back, catch a technicality, and legitimately terminate employment.
that's what her lawsuit is asking for. she wants compensation and her role on the series back.
@michaelpatterson9267
Yes.
Which, as stated, is what you should never do. Because the employer can simply give the job back, watch like a hawk to find a reason, and fire you again -this time with no legal recourse.
Even private companies are legally forbidden from certain types of firing, hence wrongful termination lawsuits.
She wasn't terminated, she wasn't under contract at the time, they just didnt exercise the Option to hire her for future seasons/projects. Even if they DID fire her, political affiliation is not a protected class Hate Disney all you want, but what they did was legal.
@ryanzwirner6089
Cool story bro.
Lame comeback bro@@anon-yw4wd
@@ryanzwirner6089 Her lawyers don't agree with you and neither does the public.
LOL I work with Lawyers, you have no idea what they believe, only what they're arguing/getting paid to argue. That's kind of their whole thing.... Also you're high if you think the entirety of the public is on your side, even if they were, so what? Since when does the public opinion dictate court cases?@@rpotuathail9471
I'm old enough to remember when "I disagree with what you have to say but I'll defend to the death your right to say it was" was a Liberal mantra.
So while I might find Gina's political views to be absolute horsepodo, I would never even dream of censoring, let alone firing, her for having them.
Thanks for the update
I hope Gina refuses to settle. Force Disney to share their dirt as part of discovery!
Doubtful she would refuse. Lawsuits are expensive.
@@immortalnub if she really gets funded by Elon, its basically infinite money for that purpose. So, who knows
@@grimtv4374 Personally I think Musk is funding this to humiliate Disney & Iger, doubt he'd want a quiet settlement. He wants discovery to uncover all the stuff they don't want known publicly. This is an expensive dirt finding mission.
You are high if you think a California Court will let this go to trial 😂 She has no case no matter who is bankrolling her.
@@cwswriter czcams.com/video/fc2W22xVpGA/video.html
There you go. Now you won't go around making a fool of yourself in public. Disney violated black letter state labor laws.
It wasn't just a firing, it was the total smearing of her character and destruction of her future in the industry
They subverted her expectations about her future career choices.
What smearing? They cut her. They saw her continued involvement in the franchise as a detriment, so they wrote her out. They didn't say a damn thing about her firing & they sure as shit didn't owe her a future in the industry.
@jedknight4389 Tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watch the video
@@vegancam I watched it alright. Just like we'll all watch this lawsuit wither & die on it's lack of merit.
Seems you did not watch. When a company's official channels spout words sadly they are now the opinion of the company. Do you think being an up and coming actor, fired for opinions on a high profile gig and then they describe your opinions as abhorrent and unacceptable... Does this not affect your future in the industry? Think before typing or better yet just watch the video and dont type.@@jedknight4389
I hope she does not settle out of court.
Go get them Gina!
Disney isn't afraid of a "strong and independent woman" expressing her opinions. It's afraid of those opinions leading to controversy and audience boycotts. I'd be willing interested to see her contract.
Cannot see Zegler’s face without immediately thinking ”WEIRD? WEIRD!”
Cannot see Zegler’s face. Full stop.
Me too. Find it funny 😂
I suspect that that will haunt her for the rest of her days.
Flopping her head around like a muppet.
Weird, isn't it?
Disney is all about strong and independent women until they act strong and independent.
When speaking your own mind about certain subjects, even out of good intentions, is the same as career sabotage... that has sadly become run-of-the-mill.
Hope she doesn’t settle out of court so we get to see discovery.
The amount of money Gina is pursuing is less than a drop in the bucket to Disney. The real damage will be to their qualitative reputation as an "ally to all women."
Except that Gina is a Nazi so, no, I don't think she'll be getting much sympathy.
Which is why both of them are doing it. Elon wants to rock the boat to hurt Disneys stock prices.
Can they even define what a woman is
They won't suffer any reputation for that.
@@BouncingZeus Elon wants Disney to make good stories again and to advertise on X again.
I don't think the goal is to "hurt Disneys stock prices"
You also forgot to add Disney has an earnings call today, making the timing of the lawsuit even juicier.
Musk is definitely playing chess
@@thewanderingronin5433 Yeah, with dice.
@@sigurdkaputnik7022With Musk, those dice are fucking loaded, mate.
An earnings call? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Those Disney creatively-bankrupt bastards are gonna be begging for Peltz's money after the trainwreck that was Disney 2023.
@@QrazyQuarian with ketamin or acid...mate?
Excelllent video ... Can't wait for the Dune part 2 review !
the funniest thing about this was that this was predicted in 2019; when Elon Musk posted a photo of himself holding Gina’s machine gun-blaster
About time! I hope this sends a signal to all the creatives in Hollywood. That entire town runs on fear, I've seen it myself. Worked there for two years. Couldn't be happening to a more deserving company. I'm a screenwriter too, and Disney's internal DEI stuff is the death of creativity (I break this down from a screenwriting perspective).
The esg dei requirements needed to make a movie or show these days is pure evil.
Hollywood is so arrogant, that they'll just double down.
You right wingers are trying to make DEI / ESG the new CRT huh? 🙄
Look who's trying to silence different view points now.
Disney has it's view points, why aren't they allowed to have it?
I'm surprised they haven't changed Mandalorian to Persondalorian.
I think you're giving them a bit too much "neutrality credit" there...remember, the Force is female. So, I'm afraid it'd have to be "The Womandalorian."
it's Maamdalorian
Panderlorian
Season 3 was already the Bo Katan Show 🤷🏻♂️
i think they would call it queendalorian, or maybe even yaas queendalorian@@fhturner3
To hell with Disney. They too need to learn that choices have consequences. Hope Carano gets a massive judgement in her favor.
I hope Disney will keep doing this. Any political ideology that impedes gender equality or personal freedom should never be represented in the media in a positive way, it's way too dangerous.
I want to see Disney either gone bust entirely or restored to how we remembered it as children.
Do you think Elon Musk and Peltz are the ones to do that??? 😂
If so….oof.
Also, dude, you’re not 8 years old anymore. Nothing is going to be like it was when you were a kid. That was _your_ time. It’s all relative, and whatever Disney is pumping out these days for eight year olds speaks to them because it’s for _them,_ not you. You’re an adult. Watch adult things, not cartoons and space wizards.
@@eyespy3001 What does his comment have to do with those two people? I believe this is called "constructing a strawman".
Second, watched any classic Disney movies recently? Any of the OG Star Wars? Those movies are considered timeless classic. Do you know why? Because they're simply good movies. They weren't made for 8 year old children, they were made for everyone. Modern movies, by contrast, are made for no one - modern audiences that Hollywood desperately wishes would exist.
Lastly, to denounce the artform of cartoons and essentially calling them not adult does it such a disservice that it tells us more about your own maturity (or lack thereof) than anything else.
@@olafgurke4699 It’s called “relative to the context.” This is a comment on a video about Elon Musk and Peltz possibly acquiring Disney after all. Just connecting dots.
The Disney you knew as a child is the Disney that lobbied for the currently atrocious state of copyright law. I'd rather they go bust - Disney has always been a two-faced monster hiding behind the veneer of their "magic".
Disney was never the way you remembered it as a child.
At this point, I don't think ANYONE wants a role on the Mandalorian.
It was rumored she was going to star in Rangers of the New Republic.
@@kudukilla She was, Favreau had an entire plan going in with the show and Kennedy killed it in the crib because she didn't like the fact that something she had no hand in was successful. Also to spite Favreau, but that should be a given with her.
Next thing you know, mando's gonna start casting the talking heads of late night comedy, given the reliable effluvium of desperation in that sector.
@@mrbigglezworth42 So the head of Lucasfilm had no hand in the success of a Lucasfilm IP?
@@lawrencelawrence8553 Yes, because she was actively trying to sabotage the program due to ideological and creative differences with the man who was leading the show.
Unless you're willing to accept that the head of Lucasfilm is also responsible for its current ruination?
Oh no. The consequences of their own actions. How horrible.
The real "Consequence Culture" is the one codified into law.
😂😂😂 I love it
How lucky of Benny Johnson to meet you and have a drink with you. Should be an honor going both ways lol
The turns and twists in this Disney saga are way more interesting than in any of the shit they produce nowdays.
-We are a diverse and inclusive company
-Cool, I have some thoughts on this whole Covid thing
-No, not like that
No doubt Disney is often lame, putting chicks in everything and making it gay, however Gina was let go for comparing being a Republican to being a Jewish person in the Holocaust. That's an ultra victim complex, one that is not even real, and one that's especially poor comment to make in Hollywood. Not to mention Gina was openly conservative and getting gigs for years up to that point.
My main gripe with the left is this overtly exclusionary rhetoric.
If you have incorrect ideas, we will go out of your way to make your life difficult and exclude you from society.
Then they go and complain about "the alt right pipeline"
The "alt right pipeline" exists because anyone who expresses an opinion to the right of Marx is ridiculed and ostracized, i wonder if people with those views might end up gravitating towards people who at least claim to have free speech on their agenda.
Companies like Disney pretend they want diversity. However anytime someone with a different perspective attempts to express their "diverse" views, they're immediately excommunicated. Guess diversity to them means exclusively the amount melanin in your skin. How progressive!
-No, we meant physical diversity, not mental.
This is good news..
Feels like news of the tide changing.
I heard it elsewhere, but Drinker's eloquence is the cherry on top.
Congratulations.
Oh, look. They've just added a synonym under "hypocrite" in the dictionary. Wait, let me check what it reads - oh, there: "Disney".
also 'The Critical Drinker'
The kind of war my adult self loves to watch.
The real hero saga
Somebody gets 200 million dollars after loosing a lawsuit and you sitting there in limbo ??.... Yeah that show it's nice
Heroine
You've no idea (or maybe you do) how refreshing it is to hear "I dont need to agree with what she said to know she was treated unfairly" is.
The thing people keep getting wrong is, she didn't even say anything. She reposted someone else's post about how the Na zis rose to power and how it's similar to today's Cancel Culture. Fsr leftists started making comparisons to it being about "Republicans and conservatives" even though the post never said that, because they know they were the ones trying to cancel Republicans and conservatives. So basically, confession through projection. I wish people would actually go back and look at what she reposted instead of just looking at the crap people made up about her and assuming idiot talking points from CNN.
Quick now: name your top 3 Gina Carano acting moments on The Mandolarian. No? She got canned because she's a lousy actress. All Disney has to do is run replay her scenes in court. When friggin' Bill Burr is acting circles around you, maybe it's time to find another job.
@@gunkulator1 Yeah because all those films were absolutely filled with nothing but top-notch acting. Somehow they all kept their jobs and didn't have Disney publicly state the company's opinions on their views.
@@gunkulator1 True enough; still, that's not what Disney said.
@@piotrd.4850Doesn't matter. She was bad at her job and got canned. More specifically, she was paid the full amount in her contract and then at the contract's end, Disney chose not to renew it. That's the way contracts work. The lawsuit is completely without merit.
That is where she has a case. It wasn't enough to just fire her. Actors, producers, directors, and others get fired all the time in Hollywood. It's the fact that they blowtorched her on the way out. I have never seen anything like that. Normally when people part ways there are obvious signs but it is never stated obviously. Like Josh Trank being blacklisted. Yes we all knew but Fox never came out and said "Josh Trank is fired because he is a shit director and a raging alcoholic/substance abuser." So that is going to be the part of this lawsuit that definitely has merit.
Ohhhh I hope and pray Gina takes it all the way to court. Sunlight is the best disinfectant, and discovery would lead to a lot of internal communications coming to light.
The only magic Disney has left is making money disappear.
@mct8888
It vanishes like magic… up in smoke!
Drinker missed some key details about the lawsuit:
1) Gina is asking the court to force Lucasfilm to recast her. She wants to be re-employed by Disney.
2) She is only seeking $75,000 in damages.
3) She is using California's worker protection laws to file this lawsuit, laws which don't exist in conservative states.
So this lawsuit isn't about conservative values or free speech. She just wants to be on Disney's payroll again.
been enjoying watching the pendulum swing in the opposite direction in real time. the hypocritical blind eye to Pascal's actions really irked me so im glad Carano's going on the offensive!
He literally Doxxed Ted Cruz and got away with it
I dropped Disney at our home after Pascal started tweeting and we will never go back. I saw nothing wrong with any of Carano's tweets but Pascal is a dirtbag human.
I've been a liberal my entire life, it still drives me crazy when people act like conservatives are fascists.
There's a thousand reasons that's a terrible thing to do, but even if you're a purist leftist the biggest reason is you're diluting the power of the word. They're creating a world where people think that word doesn't mean what it means.
What Pascal's actions? I'm genuinely sleeping on this one.
UPD: Oh, I'm done watching now,no explanation needed, thank you.
@@RockBrentwood Libertarians always crack me up, ya'll are funny.
Although I vehemently disagree with the idiotic garbage she spouts out (voter fraud, equating conservatives to the horrors Jews faced by Nazis, etc.), I do not believe she should have been pulled from the show. Until they really go off the deep end and start inciting violence and charge the Capitol.
Turns out their strong independent women can actually be _too_ strong and independent
I remember my 'Diversity Equity and Inclusion' "training" at a previous company. It was argued that they wanted to promote diversity because of all the different points of view being beneficial... I did ask what different points of view there were in engineering, it's just maths. Any why those points of views only mattered when they came from people of different genders, races or sexualities... Not economic/class background, which area they were from, if they were from a city or the country, or differences in political and social philosophies. What it seemed like they wanted was a bunch of very differently looking people who all actually thought quite similarly and at the end of the day did exactly the same maths.
Yes. Very little difference in an Indian, Chinese, or European descended engineer. That is my group (all nine are male engineers). My daughter, who is also an engineer, won't approach an engineering problem any differently than me (her education at Iowa State is pretty much the same as mine at Purdue 30 years earlier).
Division Inequality and Exclusion.
I think the idea is to worship the human individual. To be most pure at this, you can not worship competence or anything external to the individual.
I worked for a Fortune 20 company that forced all employees to take a training called “The Problems with Whiteness”.
@@totesmagotes213 wtf?
I thought making people feel bad about the race that they were born was considered bad...
Disney is done and we couldn't be happier.
As a hard core star wars fan/nerd, I sincerely hope with all my heart that Gina wins and Disney Lucasfilm is trashed. It's interesting how star wars is about rebels and standing up for what is right, but when people like Gina who is a real life rebel and who stands up for what's right, star wars fans get so angry, in the words of Palpatine, "It's ironic"
I disagree. As someone who was a Disney kid (grew up watching the shows, movies and going to the parks), it sucks to see what Disney has become. Sure it’s necessary now that they shut down, but I’m not going to pretend I’m glad. Plus there are a lot of people who lose their jobs that have nothing to do with the company culture. Instead they get sacked to save “costs” while the executives keep racking in the same hundreds of millions despite being the ones who are responsible for destroying the company.
I’ll miss the golden Pixar era …
No they’re not Lmfao they have more money than you can even conceive. Them losing one lawsuit is like a drop in the ocean. I’d love to see them bite the dust just like anyone else but this isn’t going to do anything to them.
Haaahahahahaa
James Woods, Kevin Sorbo, just a few names added to the modern Hollywood blacklist.
Most iconic Hercules ever!
It's moronic & pathetic for Disney to think it's too big to fail. ⤵️🔚🔜
unfortunatly disney is staffed by people as terrified by different viewpoints as they are hard work and personal accountability. dunno why but that sentence left me laughing so hard I couldn't breath.
Drinker missed some key details about the lawsuit:
1) Gina is asking the court to force Lucasfilm to recast her. She wants to be re-employed by Disney.
2) She is only seeking $75,000 in damages.
3) She is using California's worker protection laws to file this lawsuit, laws which don't exist in conservative states.
So this lawsuit isn't about conservative values or free speech. She just wants to be on Disney's payroll again.
So this is how cancel culture dies: with thunderous applause.
*Cackles in Palpatine*
Your damn right!
Unlimited (em)powerr(ment)
Sadly, it is far from dying.
Who do you think you are saying that, Natalie Portperson?
The first three seconds are BRUTAL!
Didn't know the channel but I'm subscribing already.
welcome
I was listening to this on audio, and had to come back to make sure you were showing Rachel Zegler when you talked about soft corporate women. You never fail me, Drinker.
PLEASE PLEASE force this to go to trial. Leave any settlement on the table and air out their shitty laundry.
for real, i want them to make this trial PERSONAL bc thats what they did to gina, they made her firing and cancelation personal
And televise it‼️
If Elon's goal is to tank their value to buy them, it's in his best interest to bring this to trial XD
It can go to trial, but the problem is, Disney has so much money, they can delay the trial indefinitely. This is, in fact, their usual tactic to end up with settlements and get lawsuits dropped. The thing this time is, Musk has enough money for that plan to not work. But does Gina want to wait 3-4 years for this lawsuit to finally go to trial, or just take a nice $10-20 million settlement right now and move on with her life? That is the question.
@@MarvinPowell1 I don't know Gina personally, but I think Disney made this personal, for her. We know she's stubborn (it's kind of why she got fired) I just hope, in this situation, that she also holds a grudge.
Educational video my friend 🧡
Wow...Yhe corruption of Disney, really does, know no bounds...🙁
One step closer to them going out of business, man!!!! 😃😁🙂👏🎉
I worked on a popular adventure TV show as an editor and the guest for an episode I cut was Gina C. The whole episode was nearly done, ready for air. Then her little misunderstood scandal broke out and I woke up to emergency emails about how we must immediately stop all work on her episode and that she was persona non grata. It's too bad. It was a great episode and she was way more interesting than most of the celebrity guests.
Wow...Now that is messed up...
what show was it?
Your anecdote makes me think of.... high school.... in all the most unflattering ways. :P
What a world we live in.
@@Jreb1865 nah ... that's just the media industry at work.
Too busy protecting their own behinds to care about the content they produce.
Of course it doesn't help that a single bad word will result on idiots responding with death threats like they were personally insulted
Another case of the so-called "cancel culture" in the showbiz? They never care if the person in question is innocent or not. Disgusting! 😡
It's always beautiful to see Disney going through it😂😂😂
Disney is a bully. A bully who richly deserves a comeuppance.
Thanks!
Never has the phrase: “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”, been better used.
Edit: Ally, is a better term than friend because Elon ain’t being a friend here
Unless it is just another entitled trust fund baby like Musk that you're talking about, I would agree.
@@buddygrimfield7954You seem to be forgetting how he's been at the helm of some of the fastest growing and most successful startups in the last 15 years and one of those startups revolutionised space launches and satellite internet.
Then again anti Musk babies can only regurgitate Retarddit talking points.
An ally. Not a friend. Don't use the words the interchangeably. He's someone that can be useful to an end goal, but not entitled to inherent trust beyond that.
@@buddygrimfield7954 Ah yes, spewing hate that have been programmed into you by your political masters. If you hate Elon Musk, you have problems and have absolutely no idea why you're so filled with hate and rage. Hint: It's based on nothing in reality and you're simply acting as a "useful idiot".
@@dbsommers1 Exactly. People like Mush and Iger have no real friends. Only potential avenues to exploit. They're downright psychotic in their views of other people. Especially those whom they deem to be beneath them.
I wonder how the people at Disney will feel about having to deal with... *gasp* consequences. I want to see the case go to trial.
"Prepare for unforeseen consequences"
Yeah, i hope she doesnt take any settlement and that elon supports her financially the whole way. Lets hope
Gina didn't seem so happy to deal with the consequences she faces after what she did.
There are other ways to express yourself that doesn’t put you in Financial jeopardy. Free speech is not free. There is always a price to pay, and anyone who tells you differently is selling you something. Most people in Hollywood know this.
The thing about this is that Pedro P. was told not to poke the Bear anymore as well. Soooo he stopped but did Gina!! NoooOOOPE. Even according to Gina herself Pedro tried to help. Disney tried to help. But sadly she was in her own way!!! Soooo it’s her fault
"Evacuate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances."
Remember a dozen years ago the thousands of humiliated and distraught American Disney employees who were pink slipped and forced to train their overseas foreign national replacements before they could receive their severance pay as ordered by CEO BOB IGER. They should join this lawsuit.
You couldn't spend 2 minutes looking up the fact that her contract expired and she wasn't fired before recording this?
And the fact that she doesn’t have a chance of winning the case.
I was looking for this comment
California law prohibits a company from firing any employee due to political activity, including online speech.
Forget Luke finding put who his father is, Gina is about to show Disney who their Daddy is!
Every sliver of any good news or glimpse of warm nostalgia from Disney is like peeing your pants for warmth in extreme cold - for a second or two you might feel warmer, but then you're just left with frozen crunchy pee pants, much worse off than when you started.
thanks Drinker !
that "OH GOD OH MAN" clip never gets old
How can they fill more roles with women but can't even define what a woman is
not even hideo kojima seems to know...
Some exec at Disney reading this comment:
"REEEEEEEEEE"
That's why they're also filling them with men with dresses.
No hate or attack just wanna see some opinions
Can you define what a woman is
@@squidmanfedsfeds5301 an adult human biological female