Schielhau Krumphau
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- Please read: After a year Bratislavsky sermiarsky spolok brings you a new video. This time we tried to cover something which is rather rare to be seen on YT - Krumphau (Crooked cut) and Schielhau (Squinting Hew) with its "stucken". Hope you enjoy it! Comments welcome!
The video is blocked in Germany, please check this link instead: vimeo.com/20504334
I like that these guys "really" get the concept of taking the other persons base/initiative away by putting their body/weight in the right place. Too many people not doing that.
All your base.
you guys need to be hired as action consultants for hollywood
I really respect you for what you doing and also for doing it with hardly any protection while at the same time I'm shaking my head for the same reason!
exactly. Gloves are a minimum
@@frenchgalloglass5204 I mean, theyre performing choreographed drills
@@thomastucker7317 oh you don't know Anton. What they do in this training is restricted fighting, where they limit the amount of actions. Footwork and timing is free, hit intent is real (to the head). Some call it aliveness drills. But of course you have to take care not to hit in the wrong place. Anton is definitely not a choreography guy. But what I can imagine is that some parts are maybe 10% or 20% faster than filmed.
@maeljin hi. we practice both of the possibilities, I`m not sure if it is mentioned somewhere explicitely, but for example if you read Danzig, in his krump zu fleche stuck he doesn`t mention stepping at all. Ofc that does not mean we shouldn`t do it. I would say that it depends on intention, distance and tempo
Sup guys.
I'm a practitioner of KdF from Australia, and I must say that I love your videos. The group I'm with, the Glenn Lachlan College of Arms, do our own research and interpretation, and we've made a similar interpretation of the martial art. It's good to know that somewhere out there, on the other side of the world, someone else is thinking the same things as us. :D
Awesome speed and power; looks like a spark flying at 2:15!
I can't get enough of this
Another notable thing about the video is the control used. Fast attacks but light contact, done very nicely. Fast doesn't have to mean a lot of impact. It's nice to see people drill at high speed with steel but in a way that is safe and controlled, but without huge artifacts creeping into the techniques used. Well done.
-Watches over and over again eagerly waiting for new video-
I love the camera angles, this is a great show!
1:45 The guy getting stabbed just doesn't have any fucks to give.
Great videos. Beautiful swordplay.
beautiful strikes i learned a lot just watching
@maeljin thanks for your oppinion! there is still much to learn, we`re somewhere at the beginning:)
@johnmeadowcourt
Thank you.
My god what beautful blades!
You guys are sooo bad ass! awsome skills!
Very professional through out!
Ahh the lovely sparks at 0:22
great video. best to watch at 50% speed and try to predict what moves they will perform as you watch!
Amazing, just amazing👍👍👍👍👍
So clean!
Very good demonstration of timing and technique. Well done guys!
Best regards,
Andrei Xuereb
Excellent! Great speed and intensity.
@mardby thank you very much!
Absolutely fantastic work! We'll have to get you guys over to Britain!
1:02 - 1:06 was badass. I liked that exchange. :D
this is awesome, i love watching you guys fence
BEST HEMA SPARRING VIDEO !
PLEASE MAKE MORE !
DOBRA ROBOTA SŁAWIANIE !!!
I...can't...stop...watching...this video!
Our group uses only helmets and gloves, and we aim for hits to the arms and legs as well.
"What hurts, teaches."
This is brilliant, I'm currently not able to train outside the context of reenactment so a lot of this stuff is a bit too "deathy", but soon I'll no doubt be looking to this stuff a great deal! I love this video...
@Berkanno glad to help! good luck with practice
This here is one of those videos I keep around for when people start saying that longswords are slow.
I like this video! Now we try to do with this video quality! Step by step I think we'll make it!!
@SethMan91 thanks a lot! schielhau and krumphau rock;)
Lifting this!
brilliant stuff!
@BuscoBeast Hi, it was bought in a regular sports store, but I`m sure some googling will do. However I do not recommend them for sparring, as they are quite softly padded
Thumbs up!! Great Work !
@johnmeadowcourt know what you mean. i'm personally more and more interested in that particular phase of the fight, and i think it's often neglected - we rush straight to krieg and neglect the approach which is a critcal part of the vorshlag. that would make a video of it's own, though, and not one which as exciting as this one - except perhaps to serious fencer!
love it guys!!!
be great to see some work emphasising stepping into distance - much of this starts pretty much in range
but, again great training, good results
This is awesome
Sparks flying at 2:15. These dudes aren't messing around!
Well done! Keep up the outstanding work!
Awesome video!!
Excellent stuff! Add more! =)
Gergely Farkas from ARS ENSIS (HUN), great video THX guys for the upload!!!
I would love to see video of this being used in sparring. It looks very impressive, and I am obsessing over it... but at the same time your starting measure is so close it looks like the potential for doubles is huge.
Would like to see a commentary on which fighters are doing what..
Read Ringeck / Von Danzig. What they practice is pretty much "by the book," but they practice it in a very fluid and alive manner which is impressive to watch.
Well, that is something that irks me as well. That, and the fluidity of their movements at times; on occasion, they appear to rush a sequence of movements a bit artificially. But, I try to reserve judgement -- they seem to be trying to apply the core principles of the art in (at least what they perceive) a realistic manner. That mentality is more important in the long run than any minor discrepancies in technique.
***** I would actually disagree on that particular point. I feel that modern fencers are too timid, and I will explain why. Though Danzig warns of not "rushing into the war," Lichtenauer clearly states that one should strike the in range directly and to the man without fear, and in earnest -- not employing the "jumping in and out of distance and faking and feinting" that modern competitors are so fond of. Moreover, I find a clear parallel between Lichtenauer's system and previous martial arts I have studied; Wing Chun, in particular, is eerily identical to Lichtenauer in method (attacking via direct lines, chasing the man and not the hands or blade, working from the bind and responding to pressure, the application of simultaneous attack and defense, etc.), and I think what Danzig is likely referring to about "rushing into the war" is what we would refer to as "chasing hands" in Wing Chun. Many people, when they are out of contact and used to working from a bind or "bridge," will chase their opponents hands or weapons in order to try to build that bridge. In Wing Chun, this usually means chasing the opponent's lead hand with some technique you propose to use, and will more often than not, put you in danger, as your opponent can simply move that hand and hit you elsewhere. To make a bridge or bind safely, you have to threaten your opponent by attacking him directly; essentially, giving him an attack that he must parry to ensure his own safety. From there, you now have come safely to the bind or bridge by chasing the man, and can work within it, as opposed to seeking it prematurely by chasing that which can move more readily and surprise you (the hand, or blade).
***** ***** Hey guys, keep in mind this is not a sparring but a demo/presentation of what we do (or did, considering it is 4yo). It "follows the book". Regarding the speed, it's more or less a similar speed in which things occur in sparring.
***** O rly? Reading insightful thoughts like "mentality is wrong" "too fast to process properly" makes me doubt your understanding of the difference. Tell me more about wrong mentality. If you also have any videos of you fencing to share, I'd be delighted to see it:)
Best longsword sparring video on youtube.
@SamGCampbell thanks! the intermezzo is just what I saw when I closed my eyes listening to that music (unlike the main protagonist of Clockwork Orange:))
@MarkHolgate thanks! there was a lot of stepping into distance, but that adding that to the video would double the duration. But nothing special, kinda normal walking or running (rushing) in:)
bucklers are very favorite amongst HEMA practitioners and may stand well against other weapons/combinations
It's too bad that not too many people wouldn't think that these styles are martial arts since the term came from Europe. Keep up with the work.
Great video guys! Top notch, and smooth! Even better that your Slovaks ;)
Very very nice!!!
hey, do the scheitelhauw too! :D Keep up the good work!
@taffy1975 thank you very much Anders! Cheers to Goteborg!
@MadassAlex thx for nice words! Cheers to Australia
@JolinarX no, those are ensifer swords (type into google)
nice work one more time
Anytime someone tells me that realistic longsword fencing wouldn't look good in movies, I show them this. If the "one stroke victory" stuff worked for the great old Akira Kurasawa films, explain to me why western sword epics need to include a minimum of 3 minutes of edge-bashing per fight?
This is exactly the argument I always raise in discussions :P
@halletheone thanks!
@Kunstdesfechtens thanks! we`ll try to:)
@Hara861 dakujeme!
Nice, good stuff.
@Jessj85 thx!
thx!
@ElArteDeLaFuga if we were to engage in a freefight I wouldn`t hesitate a moment, since this is a demonstration of prepared and controlled exercises I wouldn`t mind showing it in a swimming suit :)
thank you! this is just a technique demonstration
@aureusunicornis Thanks Marco! Cheers to Croatia!
@Vondanzigkungfu thank you! cheers to slovenia
Epilepsy warning around 2:07, which becomes safe around 2:12
2:39 is rather an easter egg. Reaction to one discussion on SVK forums regarding 1467 Talhoffer plate where he breaks Ochs with "oberhaw erlugen"
@bsapaka 1560 - Joachim Meyer Msc. A4-2 from Lund
thank you!
@JolinarX thanks! which one? there are three songs in the video:)
Thanks Zwechhau! :)
@mkozachek in the 2nd part of the video we have 4 examples of "wirff den ort auf die hende" if that is the case. about the footwork, we practice every kind of stepping and rather let us not limit on one way. I would be careful with interpreting "wol auff dein rechte seitten" though, you can do a krumphau in may ways. Even the camera angle may be misleading.
yes they are :)
What is the source for the image at 1:26? Great video, I learn something new from it every time i watch it!
@hotspurschool thanks! would definetely love to!:)
@FingonNL Ensifer - Jan Chodkiewicz
@NewAshNavarre holding my fingers crossed;)
@fatmanlaughingstill thanks
Exactly my piont. Its ridiculous but if anyone asks me how looked european fights I just tell tell to watch old japanese classics. It's the closest thing...
@johnmeadowcourt Just curious, what is the music used in the first 15 seconds or so? It sounds very familiar but I can't place it.
@JegolS thx!
@dustfurn 1533 - Gregor Erhart E.1939.65.354 from Glasgow. Thx!
@Johnmeadowcourt correct me if I'm wrong, but it seemed like most of your krumphaus were going to the opponent's blade. Is this your school's interpretation of the cut, or a safety practice? Also, a comment about your footwork - it seems like you only ever do advancing steps. At my group we always practiced the krumphau with an out step rather than a direct step.
@raeplolz hi! we learned by studying old manuscripts and treatises, the rest is practice
Very freaking cool!!
magnifique!!!
Deutsches Langschwert was und ist halt GEIL.....
Sweeeeet! Keep up the great work!
/Anders
No, this is a demonstration or perhaps technique training.
Here is some sparring from the same group:
/watch?v=AUu054k60yw
thx! one day we'll do the rest:)
@halfassedfart Mass Effect 2 OST - Jump Drive
Guys, I really love the way you move and the dynamic in the video, but God, use gloves...
DOUBLE KILL