@@keithchristman9402 Zoey knew she wanted Aaron when she returned to campus. Rochelle was the obstacle that Zoey had to get over to get to Aaron. Aaron was always weak for Zoey.
Zoe got mad at Ana when she dated Aaron and practically almost never forgave her even tho the were friends. Then she did worse by being Aaron sidechick while he was dating Rochelle knowing well enough he was cheating and still trying to be friends with Rochelle. She came up trying to act like a Saint and apologize when all. Rochelle wanted was PEACE. Instead Zoe embarrassed her at her job and trying to overcomplicate a situation literally no one cared about. What a hocrite🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Rochelle shows how people are in customer service business with all smiles but when someone push their buttons. I don't think I could ever do what she do knowing that the person who has done me wrong is smiling at me like I am a dentist.
I feel Zoey is a mirror of society. Most people behave with a lack of mindfulness like her. People are in the comments create one persona, but living the opposite 🤣
She has every right to talk to her the way she did. Because that was shady asf. All's fair in love and war. But don't piss on someone and telling them it's raining. Own up to it and walk it like you talk it.
@@sanhcman666 very true, I really like Rochelle. It’s crazy I really like Yara; but I don’t like Zoey. Grownish should’ve been more about Diane & Jack when they got into college.
No he's just as bad as she was, and he's a punk for not telling Rochelle the whole truth, but Zoey should've left Rochelle alone. The damage has been done and she's just pouring salt on Rochelle's wounds.
@@luishanejones7016 If Zoey still had feelings for Aaron, then she should’ve chose Aaron not Luca. And Zoey reassured Rochelle that nothing is going on between her and Aaron, but still slept with him behind her back.
@@leilanimartinez8903 nothing was going on with them that time, when did they cheat btw was it after when zoey walked away and said she is backing off or before when aaron came back to her and said i choose you?
I really wish junior had been older and got the spin off because even in black-ish Zoey was annoying. Just hella entitled pretending that she ain't. Also... this is the same girl that had all that to say about her friend before
Junior by far had the best character development. We could have easily dropped a few of these Grownish characters and had a subplot of Junior navigating the real world and making ends meet.
@@GAshoneybear I always thought that Marcus character was the oldest bc the way the his character is like he take on alot and he act responsible when my sister told me Zoey was the oldest I was like 😯 get outta here 😂🤣 this show is trash they should've waited until Marcus character and then do it they should know by now always use the favorites characters for a spin off 🤷.
It's hilarious how Zoey got called the exact same thing she called Ana for getting with Aaron even though she wasn't with him at the time. Shows how much of a hypocrite Zoey is
@@ceterisparibus8966 No she doesn’t. Zoey was the reason Aaron broke up with Rochelle, because Zoey convinced him to do it when she knew he was dating another girl. Now Zoey rolls up married to Aaron from a stupid decision, and she’s trying to get Rochelle to forgive her. Nope, I would’ve knocked a bitch out cold for trying to come up and be friendly when they backstabbed me like that. Zoey is a trash person with nobody on her mind but her immature self.
@@that-gay-dork3749 actually to be fair zoey did not convince aaron to break up with Rochelle, he did it by himself.. but yea zoey is a backstabbing bitch
GOOD! I felt bad for Rochelle. Zoey is a good person but don’t be realizing how much her actions affected others. She should have been 💯 from the start with Rochelle
@@sanhcman666 you want him to stay with a woman he doesn't love just to make you happy? That's not how life works sometimes we have to be a little selfish for our own happiness an unfortunately in this situation Rochelle got hurt but it is what it is. He would've left her for zoey anyways sooner or later🤷♀️
@@ceelitty2 why did he date rochelle but contemplated a whole 4seasons to date "hoe" i mean zoe. If he didn't like Rochelle then he should just not interrupted her peaceful life
Remember when A Different World happened and Denise was supposed to be the MC, but they thought she was so boring they made it about pretty much every other character in every season after 1? That was hilarious.
But Zoey wasn't approaching her about the internship. She brought up something completely unrelated to her work to make herself feel better at Rochelle's expense.
Most of the comments I see are all abt how bad Zoe is as a character and idk if some people actually understand that she is written like that for a reason. I don’t know why but for me, I like to see a main lead be horrible (not like a villain) but someone who clearly makes mistakes and doesn’t really learn from them. I kinda find it refreshing in my opinion. What do you guys think?
Bruh zoey should have been honest with Rochelle about Aron and how she loves him I love Rochelle but the fact she was being nice to zoey, zoey should have come out clean and tell her how she felt about Aron instead of doing it with him behind her back.
I've never understood the writing of this show. It's like they're VERY aware of her gaping flaws, inconsistent behaviour and general shitty conduct towards others and just...move on?? Everytime??? What's the reason of pointing out how awfully selfish, self-absorbed and bitchy Zoe is and never developing or changing her character. Genuinely think the writers think stating their awareness is somehow exemption from letting her character grow the entire 4 seasons and however many episodes we've known her for
@@mebeb6399 I actually feel the same way. I ADORE characters that are flawed and not flawed in ways that are cop outs for the writers but rather the characters possess negative traits like greed, anger, idiocy etc. I have absolutely no probLem with flawed characters. I do however, have an issue with this show because Zoe’s flaws are acknowledged and constantly brought up yet there seems to be no change? We, as the audience, are supposed to root for her. Innately, as our main character, she guides us through the story. So she should be the one that we should understand and like the most. Not necessarily because she’s a good person but because she’s interesting. I don’t really particularly mind this storyline because any storyline can be executed well. But this?? This storyline (along with sadly so many others) does not work because it doesn’t DO anything for or to Zoes character. It does NOTHING for her character development because Zoe never grows. They refuse to make her learn from her mistakes and stop being so selfish. There’s a way of consistently keeping a character flawed but continuing to allow them room to be a better person. If we could sympathise with Zoe or see her headspace perhaps I’d be more sympathic. Instead, we have the same washed up storyline of her and Aaron but in the WORST way possible because when they finally admit they love each other...it’s messy and cruel aff. What I’m trying to say is characters having flaws is not what I’m critiquing. My frustration lies in the flaws they give Zoe act out on, which is fine, but her self-absorbed and bratty nature seems to be something she’s completely unaware of or at least unwilling to change from. Ultimately, it’s lazy and I love this show so much but god it frustrates me
they technically weren't even friends imho, they were acquaintances. homie literally didn't have to say A N Y T H I N G. nun. zip. zilch. also, why did zoey think rochelle didn't already know? of course she knows. ya'll weren't hiding it or anything. i mean...just...zoey...she's making it so hard to be on her side. she's just the literal worst. ):
Nah Season one of Grown -ish Zoey would have clapped back. The writers really made her weak as the series went on. I wish they would give her backbone back.
Y'all snapping at Zoey again but I don't remember her and Rochelle being Friends. You keep saying she was awful since Black-ish well that's her character and y'all watch her still. Stop hating um sure everyone in the show has some mishaps as well don't keep attacking the same character.
They don't have to be friends, it's a matter of respect. The fact that Zoey knew Rochelle and Aaron were together and still got with him is the problem. Aaron's just as much to blame, but Zoey didn't come up to Rochelle because she wanted to do the right thing by her, Zoey wanted to make herself feel less guilty.
Nah literally everyone hates Zoey for no reason. Like are we not watching her journey to become a better person, I'm so tired of people hating the MC. Zoey is a great character imo. People are acting like kids on here
@@lisamanyange8096 exactly I just feel the hate is completely necessary. She is actually such a nice character yes she makes mistakes but Vivek literally got expelled for dealing drugs, Jazz lost are chance at the Olympics cause she wasn't focused and would rather play with her boyfriend, Luka lost a chance to work with Joey badass cause he was too shy and prideful, Sky can be unnecessarily rude, Nomi became a single mom and was in a terrible relationship with a lecturer, Aaron straight up cheated on his girlfriend and didn't even do anything until he was practically given an ultimatum and he didn't didn't have the decency to break up like a mature person and Ana can be so annoying and extra. Point is they all have their flaws but people conveniently forget all that when they wanna bash Zoey.
@@Demi-ec2fw she’s such a great character sleeping with another woman’s boyfriend and then instead of letting Rochelle move on, Zoey wants to keep talking about it, but only to make herself feel better.
Like woah Zoe Zoe super toxic on that I know it when I first saw it and like #JUSTCLOUTCHASING .... BUT AY I GIVE MY HAT TO HER FOR REALLY LIKE PUTTING POSITION OVER HERE TERRITORY OF HER SUPER GOODLOOKING JACKSON ....
Zoey deserved that from Rochelle. Zoey pretended to be her friend and backstabbed her.
aaron picked her
@@keithchristman9402 Zoey knew she wanted Aaron when she returned to campus. Rochelle was the obstacle that Zoey had to get over to get to Aaron. Aaron was always weak for Zoey.
@@gregorywatkins3350 Aaron couldn't a had her if he didnt pick her?
@@keithchristman9402 she picked him. You try dating a woman that is not interested in you. She’ll have you talkin to the hand 🖐🏽 LOL!
@@gregorywatkins3350 every forever alone and incel know that , thats why they are fiilling with rage and the product of it
Just need to say Rochelle is stunning
Ong
The actress is hotter than yara, who plays zoey
Zoe got mad at Ana when she dated Aaron and practically almost never forgave her even tho the were friends. Then she did worse by being Aaron sidechick while he was dating Rochelle knowing well enough he was cheating and still trying to be friends with Rochelle. She came up trying to act like a Saint and apologize when all. Rochelle wanted was PEACE. Instead Zoe embarrassed her at her job and trying to overcomplicate a situation literally no one cared about. What a hocrite🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Zoey is too self absorbed 🙄
Facts
THANK YOU. I mentioned a comment similar to your and I wholeheartedly agree!!!
@@pjmadziejoyful2889 just like her dad
Yeah if someone did that at my job, I'd be pissed too like wtf why are you starting or airing drama at my workplace?! Dude 😂😐
Rochelle shows how people are in customer service business with all smiles but when someone push their buttons. I don't think I could ever do what she do knowing that the person who has done me wrong is smiling at me like I am a dentist.
I feel Zoey is a mirror of society. Most people behave with a lack of mindfulness like her. People are in the comments create one persona, but living the opposite 🤣
Thats why my grandpa encourage me to be LESS SOCIAL.
"Society is getting dumber, and part of if came from USA and Europe" he used to say.
Rochelle for the win👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Really loved this moment ROCHELLE DID THAT👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
It’s rare that we root for the person who rips the protagonist of show, but Zoey is so hatable.
They made her so unlikable on blackish that it was always gonna be an up hill battle building a show around her
I was hoping junior would eventually lead grown ish but no, they focus on the life of that ho.e and her friends
@@sanhcman666 maybe he'll get a Child ish
@@marissaurias5116 true but they've more leant into her selfish ways. But instead of treating her family like mud its her friends now
@@libragoddess98287 they should've put Zoey in that sequel😅
Nahhh I’m done the way she said “are u uncomfortable” in a mocking baby voice 😭😭
She has every right to talk to her the way she did. Because that was shady asf. All's fair in love and war. But don't piss on someone and telling them it's raining. Own up to it and walk it like you talk it.
What if Rochelle starts dating Luka or Cash that would be funny and full circle.
Rochelle can do better
She is a human being and respectable woman unlike zoey
@@sanhcman666 very true, I really like Rochelle. It’s crazy I really like Yara; but I don’t like Zoey. Grownish should’ve been more about Diane & Jack when they got into college.
@@t.s.4615 to be fair diane could be some sort of a female afro trump
@@sanhcman666 really? How? 😳
@@t.s.4615 have you never saw how diane really is?
That’s why Luca said Aaron and zoey deserve each other
❤
I like how everyone is blaming Zoey, but Aaron is somehow innocent in all this.
No he's just as bad as she was, and he's a punk for not telling Rochelle the whole truth, but Zoey should've left Rochelle alone. The damage has been done and she's just pouring salt on Rochelle's wounds.
Exactly Aaron was the one who cheated on Rochelle not Zoey and he is just as much in the wrong as Zoey is
Aaron isn’t forcing his presence on Rochelle in an attempt to relieve his guilt
@@stirlingarcher7972 Thank you. Bringing up Aaron is irrelevant.
True and he did Anna dirty as well but Zoey was so unforgiving about it but yet she wants Rochelle to do what give her cookie😂bye zoey 😒
Can Roshelle get her own show. I am interested in her story. We can call Bad - ish or something else.
Bad-ish 😂
Would love to see that tbh
Remember when Zoey gave a whole fit for Anna and Aaron being together Even though she chose Luca over Aaron? She’s not looking too good now
Anna is her closest friend, how’d you feel if your friend and your crush from the first day of college got together?🤔
@@luishanejones7016 If Zoey still had feelings for Aaron, then she should’ve chose Aaron not Luca. And Zoey reassured Rochelle that nothing is going on between her and Aaron, but still slept with him behind her back.
@@leilanimartinez8903 nothing was going on with them that time, when did they cheat btw was it after when zoey walked away and said she is backing off or before when aaron came back to her and said i choose you?
@@luishanejones7016 Let me guess, is your favorite character Zoey?
@@leilanimartinez8903 lol no Actually, I don’t too have any fav tbh but I like watching Doug
Love Rochelle. You are better off without a cheater like Aaron. Handle your business girl.
I really wish junior had been older and got the spin off because even in black-ish Zoey was annoying. Just hella entitled pretending that she ain't. Also... this is the same girl that had all that to say about her friend before
Hear hear
I like junior way more than the other 3 siblings discounting devante who is MIA
At the very least, Junior should have ALSO joined Grownish. He would add so much to the show in my opinion. They really missed an opportunity there.
Junior by far had the best character development. We could have easily dropped a few of these Grownish characters and had a subplot of Junior navigating the real world and making ends meet.
@@GAshoneybear I always thought that Marcus character was the oldest bc the way the his character is like he take on alot and he act responsible when my sister told me Zoey was the oldest I was like 😯 get outta here 😂🤣 this show is trash they should've waited until Marcus character and then do it they should know by now always use the favorites characters for a spin off 🤷.
And fun fact, in real life Junior is actually the older one
I’m with Rochelle👏🏾
Why is it so satisfying
Edit: rhetorical
Because she had it coming
Because many peopke hate zoey
@@sanhcman666 Because she's a lot like them.
Coz Zoey perfectly earned it.
@@ceterisparibus8966 i hate fashion industry, my dad is not drama queen nor with double bias about caucasian society
It's hilarious how Zoey got called the exact same thing she called Ana for getting with Aaron even though she wasn't with him at the time. Shows how much of a hypocrite Zoey is
Rochelle is so beautiful
for real she’s stunning 😍
Zoey doesn't deserve forgiveness🚮
She does.
@@ceterisparibus8966 No she doesn’t. Zoey was the reason Aaron broke up with Rochelle, because Zoey convinced him to do it when she knew he was dating another girl. Now Zoey rolls up married to Aaron from a stupid decision, and she’s trying to get Rochelle to forgive her. Nope, I would’ve knocked a bitch out cold for trying to come up and be friendly when they backstabbed me like that. Zoey is a trash person with nobody on her mind but her immature self.
@@that-gay-dork3749 actually to be fair zoey did not convince aaron to break up with Rochelle, he did it by himself.. but yea zoey is a backstabbing bitch
Why does she not deserve forgiveness?
Zoey deserved that honestly. And Aaron and Zoey’s back and forth gets frustrating after a while 😭
GOOD! I felt bad for Rochelle. Zoey is a good person but don’t be realizing how much her actions affected others. She should have been 💯 from the start with Rochelle
That hefa zoey feels more satisfied to know that Rochelle feels like crap. And Aaron annoys me how he switched up so quick to be with zoey
Just as luca said. They deserve each other.. they literally just dragged poor rochelle in their stupid love
Eh I mean Rochelle right but it was only a matter of time that Aaron left her for zoey
That's neither here nor there. Zoey is feeling guilty because she chose to move without honesty or transparency and she should have.
Aaron is a dumb az
Leaving rochelle for zoey is dumb
@@sanhcman666 you want him to stay with a woman he doesn't love just to make you happy? That's not how life works sometimes we have to be a little selfish for our own happiness an unfortunately in this situation Rochelle got hurt but it is what it is. He would've left her for zoey anyways sooner or later🤷♀️
@@ceelitty2 true but staying with zoey for love also show one flaw of the world
@@ceelitty2 why did he date rochelle but contemplated a whole 4seasons to date "hoe" i mean zoe.
If he didn't like Rochelle then he should just not interrupted her peaceful life
Zoey is Denise Huxtable for real
Remember when A Different World happened and Denise was supposed to be the MC, but they thought she was so boring they made it about pretty much every other character in every season after 1? That was hilarious.
@@chrisrockett5897 Jasmine Guy became the lead role after she left
But y'all don't remember when he was with Ana and Rochelle was the side piece. That's how they got together in the first place .
rochelle didn’t know that aaron was messing with ana and him and ana weren’t in a relationship.
Damn! Besides, I think calling somebody a snake is WAY WORSE than calling them a bitch!
Zoey 🚮🚮🚮🚮🚮🚮🚮
Uh Rochelle? Zoey wasn’t your friend anyway. You need to be arguing with Aaron
Zoey's the one who approached her while she was minding her business doing her job
@@willajones1989. for an internship that rochelle is supposed to provide, as it's her job.
Aaron isn't in her face, Zoey is.
But Zoey wasn't approaching her about the internship. She brought up something completely unrelated to her work to make herself feel better at Rochelle's expense.
@@lemondroplizz3476 she broached something unrelated to work???
That is part of the internship?? Lol
Stop trying to justify her actions
Most of the comments I see are all abt how bad Zoe is as a character and idk if some people actually understand that she is written like that for a reason. I don’t know why but for me, I like to see a main lead be horrible (not like a villain) but someone who clearly makes mistakes and doesn’t really learn from them. I kinda find it refreshing in my opinion. What do you guys think?
Also want to point out that the actress who plays her has also mentioned that she hates Zoey too
@@Jojo-if7sl I love when actors hate their character as much as we do.
Aaron really chose Zoey over Rochelle?? Crazy
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Bruh zoey should have been honest with Rochelle about Aron and how she loves him I love Rochelle but the fact she was being nice to zoey, zoey should have come out clean and tell her how she felt about Aron instead of doing it with him behind her back.
I've never understood the writing of this show. It's like they're VERY aware of her gaping flaws, inconsistent behaviour and general shitty conduct towards others and just...move on?? Everytime??? What's the reason of pointing out how awfully selfish, self-absorbed and bitchy Zoe is and never developing or changing her character. Genuinely think the writers think stating their awareness is somehow exemption from letting her character grow the entire 4 seasons and however many episodes we've known her for
Does the main character always have to be good ? I like that she has a lot of flaws and maybe she will change or maybe she won’t
@@mebeb6399 I actually feel the same way. I ADORE characters that are flawed and not flawed in ways that are cop outs for the writers but rather the characters possess negative traits like greed, anger, idiocy etc. I have absolutely no probLem with flawed characters. I do however, have an issue with this show because Zoe’s flaws are acknowledged and constantly brought up yet there seems to be no change? We, as the audience, are supposed to root for her. Innately, as our main character, she guides us through the story. So she should be the one that we should understand and like the most. Not necessarily because she’s a good person but because she’s interesting.
I don’t really particularly mind this storyline because any storyline can be executed well. But this?? This storyline (along with sadly so many others) does not work because it doesn’t DO anything for or to Zoes character. It does NOTHING for her character development because Zoe never grows. They refuse to make her learn from her mistakes and stop being so selfish. There’s a way of consistently keeping a character flawed but continuing to allow them room to be a better person. If we could sympathise with Zoe or see her headspace perhaps I’d be more sympathic. Instead, we have the same washed up storyline of her and Aaron but in the WORST way possible because when they finally admit they love each other...it’s messy and cruel aff.
What I’m trying to say is characters having flaws is not what I’m critiquing. My frustration lies in the flaws they give Zoe act out on, which is fine, but her self-absorbed and bratty nature seems to be something she’s completely unaware of or at least unwilling to change from. Ultimately, it’s lazy and I love this show so much but god it frustrates me
they technically weren't even friends imho, they were acquaintances. homie literally didn't have to say A N Y T H I N G. nun. zip. zilch. also, why did zoey think rochelle didn't already know? of course she knows. ya'll weren't hiding it or anything. i mean...just...zoey...she's making it so hard to be on her side. she's just the literal worst. ):
Does Yara know how unlikable her character is?
😂😂😂
How unlikable ? Seeing how people still watch her, she might have flaws but she is not unlikeable
@@mebeb6399 love Yara, hate Zoe. I’m here for the laughs 😅
Zoey stay taking Ls!!! She really needs to evaluate her life.💯
Why does zoey never clap back 😭😭
She was wrong and knows when to back down out of shame
Plus, she's from sherman oaks so I don't think she would have great clapbacks
@@jordanharris5459 not Sherman Oaks😭
Nah Season one of Grown -ish Zoey would have clapped back. The writers really made her weak as the series went on. I wish they would give her backbone back.
I mean what could she possibly say she was 100% a snake
What the hell is Zoey wearing? Isn't she a fashion major?
I love her outfits
Fr 😂
1:18 Literally ultron when 1:19 he noticed the watcher 1:20
1:20 🤣🤣🤣
woah calm down jamal....dont blow up a 9 ahhahahaha
this is episode 3...
Nice pink turtleneck shirt yara shahidi
Zoey is STILL THE SAME SELFISH PERSON!!!!! After 3 seasons . Fire the writers
That’s why the series is called Grown-ish.... she is on her way to being fully grown
Good for her she deserved that.
Y'all snapping at Zoey again but I don't remember her and Rochelle being Friends. You keep saying she was awful since Black-ish well that's her character and y'all watch her still. Stop hating um sure everyone in the show has some mishaps as well don't keep attacking the same character.
They don't have to be friends, it's a matter of respect. The fact that Zoey knew Rochelle and Aaron were together and still got with him is the problem. Aaron's just as much to blame, but Zoey didn't come up to Rochelle because she wanted to do the right thing by her, Zoey wanted to make herself feel less guilty.
Nah literally everyone hates Zoey for no reason. Like are we not watching her journey to become a better person, I'm so tired of people hating the MC. Zoey is a great character imo. People are acting like kids on here
@@Demi-ec2fw now I don't know if they'll be hating her character or her as a person
@@lisamanyange8096 exactly
I just feel the hate is completely necessary. She is actually such a nice character yes she makes mistakes but Vivek literally got expelled for dealing drugs, Jazz lost are chance at the Olympics cause she wasn't focused and would rather play with her boyfriend, Luka lost a chance to work with Joey badass cause he was too shy and prideful, Sky can be unnecessarily rude, Nomi became a single mom and was in a terrible relationship with a lecturer, Aaron straight up cheated on his girlfriend and didn't even do anything until he was practically given an ultimatum and he didn't didn't have the decency to break up like a mature person and Ana can be so annoying and extra.
Point is they all have their flaws but people conveniently forget all that when they wanna bash Zoey.
@@Demi-ec2fw she’s such a great character sleeping with another woman’s boyfriend and then instead of letting Rochelle move on, Zoey wants to keep talking about it, but only to make herself feel better.
Deserved.
Sometimes Grownish doesn’t make any sense 😬
I believe Aaron has a fault in this two he already knew how he liked zoey so you can’t just put all the blame on one person it takes two
From season 1 I never liked Zoey even though she's the main character she's really all for herself
Ma Aaron si mette insieme a Zoey?
I mean she upset for the wrong reasons really 🥴
Like woah Zoe Zoe super toxic on that I know it when I first saw it and like #JUSTCLOUTCHASING ....
BUT AY I GIVE MY HAT TO HER FOR REALLY LIKE PUTTING POSITION OVER HERE TERRITORY OF HER SUPER GOODLOOKING JACKSON ....
Lol
I think some stuff you should keep yourself.
Uh...bye, b****
Will I be using this clip as a soundbite and meme? Uh...yes, b****
wat y'all talkin bout zoey character is fine but still need to grow up
Ok she deserved that but look I take it for my love lol
I want to see better character development in Zoey.
That probably won’t happen 💀