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Pyrolino Wood & Pellet Stove - Part Wood Gas, Part Rocket Stove
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- čas přidán 31. 07. 2020
- In this video I review the Pyrolino stove from Greece. It combine a woodgas stove with a rocket stove for some interesting results
www.pyrolino.com/
Description:
● Weight 1700grams / 3.75 lbs
● Height collapsed 25cm / 9.8”
● Height Assembled 45cm / 17.7”
● Diameter 13 cm / 5.1”
● Capacity 1.5 hours max
Stove comparisons
o Pyrolino 2.13 lbs / 1271 grams (woodgas portion only)
o Solo Titan 1.0 lbs / 494 grams
o Lixada 14 ounce / 399 grams
Observations:
June 13, 2020
• Temp: 25C
• Wind: negligible
• 2 cups/500 ml hardwood pellets
• Draft vent full open
• 6-minute startup time
• 7-minute boil of 2 cups/500ml cold water in Pathfinder 48oz pot using the bottom only
• 8:30 boil with chimney extension attached of 2 cups/500ml cold water in a stainless-steel kettle
• No smoke on startup using the bottom only
• No smoke when chimney added
• No soot on kettle
• 35 minutes of steady heat output before dying down
June 14, 2020
• Temp 21C
• Wind negligible
• Full load of hardwood
• Draft vent open
• 2 minute startup time
• 5:23 boil time with 2 cups of water using the Ubelerleban Kessel
• 2:15 boil time with chimney extension. Loud roar from chimney
• Little smoke without chimney. No smoke with chimney
• Total burn time 14:30
A very fascinating stove design. The fact that it leaves no soot on the cooking vessels when the stove top is used, could be considered a real plus.
The company calls it a tertiary burn. It really is very impressive. Thanks for commenting Lonnie
a small fuel door..... small
Nice! I wouldn't mind adding one of these to my stove collection! Thanks for the video!
Most welcome. Thanks for commenting
Thanks Mark. Great presentation as usual!
My pleasure! Thanks for commenting
I could use the base for bikepacking... it's awsome,thank you for your indepth video 👍
Thanks for commenting
Mark ... Excellent review; better video!!!!! Very thorough, fair and objective. I see you as the E. F. Hutton of bushcraft; when you talk, I listen!!! Me and mine wish you and yours all things great and good!!! Take care, be safe, all my best and God bless!!! Chuck Knight from Buffalo, Texas, USA. 🤠🐩👍🖖
Thank you for your kind words. I try and give answers questions I would want to ask if I was thinking about buying an item.
Really like the way this stove was designed to be a wood/gas stove. More of a heavy duty piece than you would think initially by looking at it. Less smoke is always a plus when you're trying to cook over a fire. Looks quite gangley and tall when it's all together, and not at all easy to add more fuel later, but I think for the most part once it's fueled up and running, when would you ever be needing more fuel than that one load anyway? As with many of these things, buying one means something being shipped from overseas, Greece in this case, which is also surprising. They include worldwide shipping in the cost of the unit though...
My thoughts exactly. Thanks for commenting
Great video Mark. Weight aside this stove is impressive and a combination I’d wondered if anyone had thought about. I’m especially impressed that the flue keeps the pot clean. Thank you for getting this information out.
You are most welcome. Glad you found the video helpful.
This is perfect for a car camping imo. I would never carry it because other gasifiers are less than half the weight, and some even 1/10 the weight, but it has a purpose. The no soot feature is amazing.
It would be a good idea for a home stove if modified.
Yes, great for car camping or home use for sure. Thanks for commenting
A lot of other comments already, just to say because of weight only really good for base camp or cabin situation. High efficiency and clean burning, but not refillable to extend the burn, long time to cool off.
That pretty much sums this stove up. Thanks for commenting
Could be a great Stove for Heating up a place
Interesting idea. Something to consider. Thanks for commenting
I love the design, but I would use it at my friends farm when I cook for them.
It is a great design if a bit heavy. Thanks for commenting
Haha Mark. Before I read the description. The picture for the video looks like a Huge AeroPress 😂
Oh man...that is what I need some (most) mornings😜 Thanks for commenting
It was a fun video just to see that vortex when you put the chimney on top - impressive!!!
You must be a stove person😉. Thanks for commenting
Neat portable rocketstove. Wish my ti tower style stove had feet like that.
For a more portable rocket stove take a look at my VIRE stove video. This is much more heavy duty though. Thanks for commenting
Nice review, Mark. Looks like a nice stove. I like the no smoke remark. That means it is a very efficient stove.
Yes, Pyrolino calls it a tertiary burn. Super efficient. Thanks for commenting
I don't get to watch all the videos but I try to like them all Mark
We might get more rain for Nova Scotia thursday or friday with that hurricane coming up
I know this sounds bad but I am really hoping for rain...but not high winds. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I am up in Cape Breton, we could use the rain as well.
I'd rather deal with everything soggy than wells going dry / forest fires.
( my work in progress wood cutting and splitting might hate it ha ha)
@@scottmurphy4946 way too hot for that kind of physical labour here in Halifax
That would be an awesome stove for canoe camping.
Very cool.
I’d love to see how that works with wood and a top-down burn.
I can do that. it is truly impressive, especially when the chimney goes on. Thanks Randal
Mark Young i like it. It would be ideal for a small group.
I have a combo rocket/woodgas stove but it weighs about 15 lbs so car camping or power outage use only. It's a big can thing by silverfire... the survivor, i think. It works very well. Great for stir frying with a big wok.
Yes, that is a real rocket stove with an insulated chimney. I am looking to buy one to add to my collection. Way heavy but super efficient. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft it also has wood has features in that it injects heated air above the burn.
Great details in the "show" notes and a very good review. I would say this stove is the coolest stove yet! Looks like it came from WW2 and built like it. Indeed a heavy weight but would be a champion at any base camp for a clean burn. Great review Mark.
Glad you like the video. Yes, it almost looks like a military mortar. Thanks for commenting
Thank you!
Most welcome. Thanks for commenting
Very interesting stove, Mark. I've holidayed on a couple of Greek islands (including Rhodes) and it's wonderful to be on that soil, seeing the sheer raw nature and beauty from rock to water, and thinking of the legends it inspired with the Odyssey and all the rest. Glorious end of the world, if you ever to Europe you should put it on the list.
Anway, to risk boring you with more wood-stove chat, I've been wanting a cheap, light firepit with an ash-pan. Doesn't have to be a stove, perhaps just marshmallows, it's for the light and a bit of heat from a fire. I also wanted hot-coal containment. There are a few very small ones that I'd seen before, I think some you've tested and some I've seen others using on Scottish hills youtube diaries, but I found a (I think) new, hexagonal one (that ISN'T the Vargo clone) that was only £7 so I've ordered it from China. I thought you might be interested in seeing what I found. It's possible airflow will be an issue, the ash-pan seems to seal-off the wood-pan, but there is a lot of ventilation in the sides; and I have collapsible bellows if I need. I'll let you know how I get on. Anyway, a Link to EBay UK so you can see it, doubtless on Ali and a bit cheaper too.
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Outdoor-Folding-Picnic-BBQ-Camping-Cooking-Wood-Burner-Stove-Charcoal-Grill-Lin/174265735327
So, I bought the four sided version of that stove and will be reviewing it soon. I am now thinking about buying the six sided one as well. Thanks for comenting
Thanks for another great stove video! Love the stove vids!
Glad you like them! Thanks for commenting
Only question that comes to mind is does the chimney need to be so long?, where it shorter and it still able to create the vortex and clean burn, then it would be lighter more stable and have less heat waste.
Thank you for showing Mark.
That is a good question. The length does add to the drawing in of air (chimney principle?) and the vortex created by the fins and vents all add up to the cleaner tertiary burn. It may work with a shorter chimney. The stove does not need the chimney to function well. Its just that much cleaner when it is used. Thanks for commenting
Interesting stove design Mark :-) Just made my 1st Ikea stove after watching your videos :-) Hope your good mate and enjoying your weekend :-)
Believe it or not. The Ikea hobo stove still ranks at the top of my all time favourites. Performance for dollar it is hard to beat. Thanks for commenting
Morning, Mark ; Aside From It's Weight, I Like It Very Usable Priced Well Too. Stay Safe & Well Friend. ATB T God Bless
It is super well made and very heavy duty. Just a bit too heavy to carry far. Thanks for commenting Terry
I use a small portion of woodpellets in a jar and shake it with some alcohol. Then I put that on top.
Cleaver idea. At home, I use a gel alcohol to get the pellets going. It also works well. Thanks for commenting
Colin Furze just posted a video where he created a wood gasifier as an engine to power a lawn mower. One of the major problems he ran into was tar as a byproduct. Have you run into this with any of the gasifier stoves you've tested?
Interesting. I will watch that video. Not much in the way of tar, especially with this stove. Sounds like the gasification is not complete and the exhaust is cooling down and condensing. I do find all woodgas stoves smoke as they get going but once pyrolisis kicks in they are pretty clean. Thanks for commenting
Mark Young there is tar with gasified engines since the wood gas is created, but not burned, and cooled, before it gets to the engine. The solids condense out of the gas during cooling, it one of the big challenges with gasification to run engines.
In a stove, the solids are consumed in the fire in the primary as well as secondary combustion.
While both uses involve wood gas, the operation is completely different.
Just checked the price $189.50 CND, way too expensive for me.
Yes, not cheap for sure and not for everyone but it is a lifetime item. Thanks for commenting
Hey Mark. Found your channel while looking at different stove reviews and i really like your videos. I have been searching for a compact, durable and easy to use stove (i will be using wood 95% of the time), and i thought maybe you could recommend me some. i'm from Denmark, so apologies for my english :)
Glad you found my channel. Your English is great. There are so many stove options out there. To be fair I would need to know a few things first. How much you want to spend. How big or heavy a stove you are looking for. Do you want the convenience of a folding stove. Two stoves that come to mind are the simple to make Ikea Hobo Stove and the folding Firebox stove. I have a playlist of stoves that may help you decide
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Awesome. I'll take a look at the playlist then :)
Interesting conversation pc. But I don't think I could trust a big cast iron skillet on top of that chimney. Thanks for showing us what's available Mark.
Mark wouldn't say it is stable if it wasn't. Remember this is heavy-gauge not the Lixada stuff you could tie a string around and use as a kite. 😄
@@darthkek1953 You be you. I'll be me.
@@FnLn55 No swapsies? 😅
@@darthkek1953 If I put my 12" CI atop that chimney, there might be floppsies!
I can understand your reservations about putting anything heavy on top. As long as the base under the stove is solid an flat, this stove will support the weight and not tip. Still I would keep an eye on it to make sure it didn't get bumped. Thanks for commenting
Mark have you used a thermette wood stove before
I have not. Interesting design though. I will add it to my wish list. Thanks for commenting
Thanks, Mark, but, at that weight, I would rather bring a hot tent titanium folding stove and try to adapt the flue for direct fire cooking. The cost is much, much higher, but the versatility would be unmatched. I am currently considering hot tent camping, and do not own either a tent or stove at this point, so this is theoretical, but logical.
I do, however, own and use a Kelly Kettle Scout in aluminum, and it makes a great cooker, but the kettle must have water in it to avoid damaging it. With the Kettle on the fire base, it's an awesome rocket stove. The base itself is good for slower cooking, like grilling meats and simmering soups.
Horses & courses. Not everyone wants to go hot-tenting, or needs to. It's only ever a novelty here in Scotland and would loony tunes in Greece, but in many places in the North Americas it's a lifesaver or at least a game-changer. I had a Kelly Kettle years ago, got given away as I moved countries for jobs. I fancy the "mKettle SAS" as it is compact and snag-free (only boils 0.5 litre, but that's enough for me... it's not intended for group-use).
Yes, this is not for everyone for sure. What it does, it does well but is not something I would want to carry far. Interesting idea about using the flue of a tent stove to cook with. Thanks for commenting
Can you add wood? Great stove and video.
Yes, you can add wood to the base part but only if the chimney has not been attached. Thanks for commenting
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Definitely an interesting attempt, but ridiculously tall. Those three legs would not be enough width for the height if you had a heavy pot, plus tripods are not all that stable. I'm sure you e had and seen enough CZcams cameras going down. They have too much space between them.
All in all a silly idea, with too many issues to overcome the benefits. Still, am interesting attempt.
The base part works well enough on its own that I doubt I would use the chimney very often. Thanks for commenting Jim
Mark I enjoy your reviews, This stove just looks very dangerous!
I can see how you would think that. The three legs at the base help a lot. Still, it is best to set it up on a firm flat surface. Thanks for commenting
a small fuel door..... small
Yes. More of a pre-load only. Thanks for commenting
I have very bad news, my father died at 31/07/2020 do to the consequences of advenced prostate cancer 🥺😰😥😢, verry sad day to me. He was 74 years Old
I am so sorry to heat that. I know the pain that comes from loosing a parent. My father was about that age when he passed.
Thanks Mark, i apreciate your words
Kinda tall...
Seems kinda dangerous...
I can see how you would think that. The three legs at the base help a lot. Still, it is best to set it up on a firm flat surface. Thanks for commenting