The Virestove - A Collapsible Rocket Stove
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- čas přidán 17. 07. 2020
- In this video I introduce the Virestove, A collapsible rocket stove design
Weight 3lbs / 1363 grams
Collapsed - Length 12” / 30.5 cm, Width 7.5” / 19 cm, Thickness 2” / 5 cm
Assembled - Height 12” / 30.5 cm, Width 10.25” / 26 cm, Burn chamber width 3.25” / 8.1 cm
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Glad to see you try the VIRE. I’ve owned this stove for a year and have used it a lot. It’s the first rocket stove I’ve used that actually works! It is heavy, but robust, and burns HOT. I live in southern US so I can’t speak to cold weather use but in over a dozen burns it has always been easy to start and maintain and has always worked well. Something I can’t say about the HA rocket stove.....I have had this thing roaring and burning way hotter than necessary for cooking, no warping and folds the same. It is a little tricksy to latch together but gets easier after a few times. I really look forward to your extended use review. I enjoy all of your videos!
Right on. Pretty much my experience so far. I also had problems with the HA in titanium. Not a good design. Thanks for commenting
I do like the apparent efficiency of this stove. Also the self feeding fuel port appears to be advantageous as well.
It has a lot going for it Lonnie. I would suggest it might be good for your canoe and snowmobile trips but I need to see how it performs in cold weather before recommending. Thanks for commenting
Nice preview. At 3 pounds this stove is a non starter for me, but I absolutely love rocket stoves. Thanks Mark.
Glad you liked the review. As a backpacking stove it is way to heavy for sure. Thanks for commenting
Looks like a good car-camping or fishing stove! Decently priced, too.
Yes, car camping would be a good match. Thanks for commenting
Thumbling about with the stove like that to set it up looks really unprofessional and makes a person look reasonably stupid, but thats real life, thats how it is for all of us, we really dont need a polished up advert with a beautiful woman unfolding this and cooking within a minute of getting it out of the box, this is raw and how reviews really should be done, its this kind of review that will make me go and buy this, awesome stuff Mark
Thanks for commenting
Face the feed port into the wind, these are great stoves, they work using minimum fuel collected locally, can be used as a thermal siphon for hot water as well, very functional, Davi b
Great tips. Thanks for commenting
Hi Mark,
Thank you for sharing this stove overview with us. And I look forward to learning more about this product in the future.
Glad you liked the preview. Will likely wait til winter before making the second video. Thanks for commenting
Thanks Mark for the review. That's perfect for the backyard for economizing wood use.
Would be great just about anywhere as long as you don't have to carry it far. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thank you for the link; ordered one.
Nice review Mark and thanks. Exactly why I love my Kelly Kettle.
Right on. When a rocket stove works it is a joy to behold. Thanks for commenting
Great video Mark. Looking forward to the long term review!
Glad you liked it. Will likely wait until winter before making it. Thanks for commenting
I think this would be great when hiking with several people. You can keep it going fairly easy and could be sustained over a period of time.
Exactly. It has its place, despite the weight. Thanks for commenting
That looks cool as hell
It actually is. Thanks for commenting
Great review, thanks for that. I've only seen good things said about it online regarding it's efficiency so I'm glad to see it backed up here. I'm prepping for some off road driving/camping and this is going to be an excellent addition to my car-camp set up (not having to worry about weight too much!). Looking forward to the long-term use review.
It is a great stove for vehicle carry for sure. Only aspect I have not had an opportunity to test is cold weather use. Most rocket stoves don't do well in the cold unless the chimney is insulated. Thanks for commenting
Excellent video 👍 Mark.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting
Any rocket stove that folds flat will have to make serious compromises. That being said, I was impressed by its performance, at least in your warm-weather venue. Depending on the situation, I would be happy to use it.
I have been working on the design of a true rocket stove and I will prototype it soon. I have selected the materials for my stove. I am constructing it around a sacrificial PVC form that will burn out on the first few uses. I am using a mineral fiber composite that's capable of withstanding 2000 F. The bonding agent is sodium silicate. It will have an insulated combustion chamber that uses pearlite bonded with sodium silicate. The exterior is a mineral fiber composite shell. I have separated the fuel feed chute from the combustion air port. The combustion port feeds air tangentially into the combustion chamber which should initiate and maintain the vortex easily. The stove will be very light but is unsuitable for backpacking.
Right on. Sounds like a well design rocket stove. Would love to see it in action when finished. Thanks for commenting
Great test, nice Stove
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting
GREAT REVIEW! Very inclusive and didn't leave anything out. You just gained a subscriber, sir.
Thanks for the sub!
First time seeing this stove, definitely impressed
It works great and now they just came out with a smaller model I hope to start testing soon. Thanks for commenting
You mentioned that the fire ban had been lifted and you could now cook in the woods. I came across a product called Old Faithful Flameless Heating Packs that allows you to cook without a flame. It's apparently designed for something called "Old Faithful Geyser Flameless Portable Cooker", but any appropriately sized pot could work. You drop the palm sized package in a pot and pour water on it and it immediately starts steaming. I watched this in action on a You Tube site called "Camping Together". The video was named "Rain Camp in the Pine Woods". I thought you might wish to check it out. This would allow you to cook during a fire ban.
You can still use gas stoves during a fire ban.
Right on. I looked for them but all I see is that they are out of production. I can still use gas, alcohol and charcoal here in Nova Scotia during a fire ban. Would love to try the flameless cooking. Thanks for commenting
Am I only think. this is the ultimate rocket stove design. they nail it all aspect from portability to self refuel.
I agree this is a very well designed stove for the most part. I still have to test this winter as many rocket stoves don't work as well in cold weather unless the chimney is insulated. Thanks for commenting
Looking forward to you long term review.
Glad you liked it. Will likely wait until winter before making it. Thanks for commenting
Very interesting and effective design. Thanks Mark👍
It really is Wade, within its limitations of course
Thx for the review
Most welcome. Thanks for commenting
I’m liking the look of this stove, I’ve seen it on other reviews and definitely tempted to get on if I can get on in the uk.
I noticed on amazon that lixada have made a sawyer mini style filter too
I will take a look at the Chinese filter...no magic in the Sawyer. Thanks for commenting
Glad you didnt modify it for the test.
Thanks for commenting
Agree it looks very appealing to me,but more for a base camp
I agree Steve. Only want to carry this thing short distances. Thanks for commenting
Thanks for your excellent review. This stove looks very promising and could be an good stove to consider for those who are only car camping and want light portable gear. While I appreciate your points about weight being a consideration for backpacking there is a point to be made about how useful it might be for non-backpacking applications such a use at a trail head camp then left in the vehicle in favor of a smaller box type wood stove etc. This stove might also be considered for canoe camping or horse camping where weight is less of an issue. In my youth I carried a small Svea Stove which is compact, reasonably light and very efficient. However burned white gas which had to be packed in along with the stove and added considerable weight. Even so the stove proved such a benefit over an open fire that the additional weight seemed less of a concern. Being a lot younger and more fit in my 20's than is the case now, about 50 years on I suppose I was more able to adapt to my gear rather than the reverse - LOL.
Good points. This is actually quite compact and lightweight for a car camping or canoeing stove. at least for a rocket stove design. Thanks for commenting
Mark, have you compared its efficiency with a Firebox Gen 2?
@@iraa9935 Not yet but is a great suggestion. Thanks
i have this stove ..
the locking bit you find fiddly all you do is loosen the nut 1st then the locking arm locks in no problem then tighten the nut up with your fingers ... job done no fiddly issues anymore ;)
Thank for your suggestion
Interesting Design, Aside from the Lil Quirks, Worked well, Thanks Mark ! ATB T God Bless
Right on. Will see how it does over the long term. Thanks for commenting
Cool, that one shows promise.
For sure. Just a bit bulky and heavy. But then again, no real way around that. Thanks for commenting Randal
I viewed ur “Mini” version video of this stove and was thinking that I should have bought the smaller version.... just bought the regular sized stove last night. The weight might pose an issue for a longer portage but I’m happy that I went for the larger size. Titanium would be a nice option.
Stay tuned for my full review. I think you will be happy with your purchase. Weight is about the only downsize to the bigger stove. Thanks for commenting
Not a bad looking stove really.
Having to struggle to get it together might not be a deal breaker for me.
Thanks for the video
Funny, that was the first time I struggled with it, except the latch which has a design flaw. Time will tell if it remains an issue. Thanks for commenting
It was because the camera was on. LOL
Maybe for cold weather you could make a sleeve to go over the chimney section out of carbon felt (that stuff they use as a wick in alcohol stoves and is used as a welding blanket)
Yes, as I mentioned in the video. Thanks for commenting
I wish they put the swing latch on both side to make it more securely locked together
I agree, Would be that much safer to use. Thanks for commenting
There seems to be a glut of twig stoves in the past year or two. In a few years, say 2 to 3, there may be only about half as many.
Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
Thanks for commenting
This design looks for nice, and portable. In good weather I tend to use a stove for extended period of time. Where does all the ash go, how to clean out the ash during extended burn so it doesn't choke out the fire? In my flat pack rocket stove I am able to clean out during the cooking process. If I don't clean out time by time I can tell it is not getting enough air.
Actually, that is one of things I am looking at before I do my final review. So far, I can see how ash could build up with extended use. It would be a challenge to remove while the stove is in use. Having said that, there is a fair amount of space under the feed ramp for the ash to collect. Still, I will watch and report back, soon hopefully. Thanks for commenting
As always a Great review there Mark. Thanks' Oh and just bought one.... Coming Friday.... TOTAL IMPULSE buy, but what is money for ... ;) Hope they start making HEET available in your area soon. ;)
Hi Bill. The VIRE is working really well for me. Let me know what you think. Still no HEET but I can get marine grade ethanol. It is just more expensive than methanol. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thanks I can actually see some changes already in the VIRE stove as I remember a few things different from the one that I've seen before. Company appears to have good customer support too. My new stove appeared to be an Amazon return so since I bought from Vire directly so as to avoid Amazon because I knew why some stove had been returned. Rather than return the problem. Holes in the case, I contacted Vire directly as they were my purchase source and asked them to send me another case. They apologized and are sending one from Israel. :) Sorry I've not watched your channel explode more. Great stuff my friend.
@@BillDubeVariety The people at VIRE are definitely good to deal with
Nice initial look at this stove, Mark, thank you.
After the fires you’ve lit in it, was there just fine ash to dump out afterwards? Was it easy to clean? Any accumulation of creosote? Any difficulty with the hinges folding it up after cleaning? How quickly does it cool down once the fire burns out? When you ordered it, how many weeks did it take to reach you?
Thanks again.
I can answer the order time now. Two weeks to Canada. The rest will come with the long term review. Thanks for commenting
Interesting. I know of rocket stoves, but never considered them as something practical to carry. I also never would have thought cold weather would do anything other than to slow down the start up time a bit. I'll be looking for your winter video.
I have to say that on camera, it looks awfully narrow and tall. I'd worry about it tipping over, and definitely not something you could support on some sticks in the snow.
Good point about using it in snow Jim. So far, very stable because of the front legs but time will tell. Thanks for commenting
Lovely looking stove. I just want to say about shipping times, I ordered a Boundless Voyage titanium grill plate at it took exactly 7 days to arrive, China to UK.
Wow, That is impressive. Thanks for commenting
@Arsene Lupin III I've never seen an American made titanium camp grill plate like this, but besides that why should I be fiscally local to the USA? As I said in my post, I'm in the UK. If I were going to back anyone up on nothing more than the patriotic basis it would be the UK but there is no equivalent UK-made item.
@Arsene Lupin III Hello bot.
@Arsene Lupin III I assume I'm talking to a scripted bot because surely no human could confuse a BBQ GRILL PLATE and a GASIFICATION STOVE ??
@Arsene Lupin III I wasn't having a go at you, I didn't realise it was a real person making a mistake - I wasn't trying to be mean! :-D Happy camping !!!
What type and make pots/pans do recommend with this stove?
I think for a stove of this size/weight and capability I would go with a pot of at least 1 liters up to maybe 5 liters. It will easily support a pan of 10" diameter, including a cast iron pan. Smaller pots/pans will work on it but it seems like mismatch to carry a small pot and a large stove. Thanks for commenting
Pretty nice stove. 🔥 Have you tried a biolite stove yet?
Yes, I borrowed a BioLite from a friend to compare with my VitalGrill Survival Stove. I have a video on that if you are interested. Thank you for commenting
I just saw a new improved self-feeding folding rocket stove in aliexpress below USD10
Is it this one czcams.com/video/lfo6gzCUS1Q/video.html I also see a clone of the HotAsh stove and a multipart stove
Intriguing design! But 1.35kg is much too heavey for a hiking stove.
Would work for (car-) camping, I guess.
If you are cooking for many people and can distribute equipment (tent, stove) then it might work!
Might be interesting to see a titanium version ... will be very expensive though.
True,but because of the dimensions it would be expensive and maybe half of the weight
Would be interesting in titanium but very expensive I am sure and I wonder how much weight it might save as I think the titanium would have to be quite thick of this design. Thanks for commenting
I’d call that a “Vehicle Twig & Limb Rocket Stove.
Put it in a cool case shaped like a 🚗 and put a camp Fire 🔥 showing the stove...
Right on. They may have missed there market for this. The lightest, most compact car camping stove. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft motorcycle camping!
Would you prefer the Vire Stove over the Solo Stove?
That is a tough one. The Solo is lighter and easier to use from an assembly point of view, The VIRE is easier to use from a wood processing point of view. This would make a good comparison video I can make at some point. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft That would absolutely make a good comparison video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us!
How has it held up
I use it only occasionally as I have so many stoves. So far no issues, other than some warping but it has not affected use or takedown. Thanks for commenting
Wood pellet experiment coming? X
I'll take a look at it but I don't think it will work based on the internal design unless I modify it. Thanks for commenting
price and where available?
in the video description. Thanks for commenting
I like the looks of it, but at $90 it is out of my price range.
Not cheap for sure but not out of range for a good stick stove. Thanks for commenting
there are better rocket stoves around. Look up the Australian made EMU Rocket stove.
Will do. Thanks for commenting
This looks so flimsy
More stable than it looks
Highly overpriced and too heavy for bushcrafting and backpacking.
I agree it is too heavy to carry very far but price is relative to what someone is willing to pay for the quality and functionality of the design. This stove is not cheap but is not outside the cost of other stoves. Thanks for commenting