Robyn L: no kidding? Sheesh! I'd love to see a show, "Slow and steady wins the race," or something to that effect, watching super fat people over a five-year period (or the old Star Trek goal, THREE years) and see how they learn and what they change and how they manage...if they manage. But it would be SLOW...probably not great TV...but it'd be super for learning about something we should have learned about when we were kids--and didn't.
Jasmin R: yeah, I gotta watch some of the whole episodes of that. So far CZcams wanted money for them...I see there are some available now for free. But don't they all have bariatric surgery on that show? In which case, it's not all that slow and steady. I love the short clips I've seen for free...very inspiring.
If these folks lost 100 pounds in 3 months, no wonder they're metabolism is screwed up. That's crazy. Word to the wise: Do it slowly, or at least moderately paced.
D. Lawrence Absolutely right....I’m loosing weight slowly myself...I’ve taken away sodas one week....and took away all junk food and I’ve slowly lost weight...haven’t met my goal yet but l’m working on it
@@devinrivers5808 I lost weight in 6 months like 60 lbs it has been a year I have never gained 1% of fat I increase my weight by 12 pounds all of it was muscle mass it is easy
Instead of dropping insane amount of weight per week Just do it gradually Of course the metabolism is going to fight back if you loose 200lbs in a manner of months!
No that's not what the studies are showing. They are showing that regardless of the method or rate of weight loss, the body fights to get back to that original weight. So they could've lost 200lbs over 2 years or 4 months and their metabolism still would've dropped.
The study only included biggest losser contestants. It doesn't and can't prove anything about slow weight loss because they simply weren't included. The vast majority of people that want to loss weight do so with the intention of reaching a certain weight rather than a permanent lifestyle changes. Many adopt extreme diets to achieve this goal that are never going to be sustainable. They pile on the pounds again because they stop paying attention to what they're eating so old bad habits slowly creep back and before you know it they are right back where they started. Some individuals don't have the luxury of not paying attention to what their eating. I'm one of them. Was always fat as a kid. Yo-yo dieted for years. Today I've lost 46 lbs and kept it off for a year because I pay attention to what I eat. I know if I don't old habits will slip back because they've been ingrained from childhood.
falynch: THANK YOU! Wise words and well-written. (Hmmm WWWW). I agree 100%. And congrats and best to you on your lifestyle change! (25 pounds in 5 months here...and no intention of being oblivious again...as long as I'm not senile!)
100% agree. It's about lifestyle changes, and you can only achieve change if you make food choices, exercise, therapy, and stress management a habit. It's much harder than people think.
I lost 105lbs through diet and exercise only, and have kept it off since 2014. I work out and eat normally most of the time. It takes a commitment and desire to change your life. I am almost 50 years old and also disabled.... so, it can be done. However, I don't think the contestants were given enough real life tools to maintain a healthy, sustainable lifestyle.
Bingo! A lack of real-world tools is the problem. Crazy fast weight loss, diet pills, hrs of cardio per day, starvation diets, etc. Science has KNOWN, FOR MANY YEARS that this screws up metabolism. This study is NOT revealing some shocking new discovery about metabolism. The premise of the show itself: INtense competition and a win at all cost mentality to lose weight as quickly as possible via idiotic methods is the problem. The "trainers" absolutely disgust me! Having a certification means you took the coursework. It doesn't mean you automatically intelligently apply what you learned. Their choices of exercise and activities were ridiculous in many cases. A 350 lb woman running? Doing freaking handstands? Seriously? What about joint damage or muscle tears? But hey, it looks "hardcore " and "extreme" so its good TV, ....right? And no, I was never 200 lbs overweight, but I took a slow and consistent approach and made MASSIVE changes to BOTH my body and MIND. I actually changed my lifestyle and educated myself about exercise and nutrition and while I can easily add fat, maintaining a healthy weight is almost easy....now. No, not easy as in " I can go back to eating a box of crackers, a half block of cheese ,half a jar of olives and a 32 ox Pepesi for a meal." and stop exercising daily (45 minutes). But, ikt is doable and is not a hassle. People need education and tools in addition to the desire to change. I had the desire, but took time to educate myself and acquire tools. It was worth it.
Scott Holley: absolutely! Good for you! Great comment. 25 pounds for me in 5 months, still going fine, slow as glaciers and that's OKAY! By the time I'm to goal (and it's higher than any dietician would've set, I'm sure), I'll know who I am and how I got there and how to stay there. I cannot and will not go back to the fun old lifestyle of eating whatever I wanted in whatever quantities I wanted...now I can have whatever--but I have to limit it to one portion. So what? I eat it slowly and I enjoy it to the max. No cravings. Or--only a few, and in control. GREAT to hear people like you on these forums...too many people are too deluded on this very important issue!
Wow way to go! And I think also putting their bodies through extreme workouts and extremely low calorie intakes messed up their metabolisms permanently :/
Scott Holley: now _50 pounds_ in 14 months and still going fine. Slow and steady. Like riding a glacier but when you look back you see how far you've come. Re-educating yourself is key. Lifetime dedication to ones own health and body is key. We no longer lock up the potato chips. I'm happy now with a single-serving size bag once in a while at a meal. I know I can have any type of food I want...I just can't have all the food I can eat like I used to. I have one plate and sometimes don't finish that. We've gone down to only two meals a day, and today we're looking at only one--and aren't particularly hungry. Intermittent fasting, times when you simply aren't going to eat, is helpful. Also helpful are new hobbies, new activities, new things to think about, new connections to the outer world. Light exercise, particularly some muscle building by lifting small weights, can help some, but basically it's all about the food and how much MY body needs, not how much someone else eats or how much I'm served at a restaurant. It is doable. It was a hassle at first, but I look back now and realize how much I've learned and changed in 14 months. I won't go back.
If they were part of a study im sure the study kept track of what they were eating. A normal person man is 2500 cal and he said to maintain his 200 something body weight he's eating 2100. Which is odd for a pretty big guy.
You have to understand how weight loss works, it’s scientifically proven. Your fat cells don’t disappear when you loose weight, your empty fat cells signal your brain that they are empty, thus you are starving, so your body makes sure your metabolism slows down tremendously. It’s not for nothing that the chances of anyone keeping weight loss on the long term is less then 5%. Also the hormones are sooo out of whack when you loose weight this fast, fat cells release huge amounts of hormones when you loose weight. It’s so easy to judge when you don’t understand how the body and metabolism actually works, it’s simply not sustainable. This is coming from someone who lost 165 pounds, and I have kept it off for 2 years now. Your body will do everything to go back to that weight, believe you me, I cannot eat the way I did when I was at this weight 15 years ago, not even close, eating more than 1000 calories a day is not doable for me to keep this weight off. Im well, but I have very big hormonal issues that my doctors are trying to resolve. Maybe research scientific evidence instead of making quick and totally wrong judgments.
I lost more than 100lbs and currently I don't have any metabolic damage. I burn as much as I should each day. I didn't do it with any special diet such as veganism or high protein. I just ate at a small deficit (1500-1800 calories for a 5'1'' woman) and worked out frequently but not to a point that I damage my -then unfit- body. I feel sorry for these people because they were treated with extreme diets and exercise regimens but didn't learn beforehand the reasons they're having these bad habits. I still have bad days where I struggle with maintaining my weight and I certainly worry about losing control again. I've maintained for over 2 years now, I am proud but I still have a journey to make, that being a journey of self acceptance. Weight loss is simple: eat less junk and move more. The mindset is the thing that has to change for good to start and/or maintain the weight loss. No specific diet, workout program will do this for you. It's only you and that's the wonderful aspect of it. Get to know how strong you are and get yourself where you really deserve to be. :) P.S. We are far more than what we weigh or what we eat. So a good tip to people who wanna lose weight is to find something that you like and go for it. It can be anything as long as you like it. Extend yourself further than food and body image and express yourself. Anything that makes you feel well is more likely to help you making yourself healthier!
Your story is very inspiring to me as I need to lose 60 lbs myself. You've been very smart by deciding to stick to a modest caloric deficit instead of going as low as 1200-1400 kkals like my fitness trainers told me to ( I'm 5'2"), which made me develop disordred eating behaviours... Could you share a bit more on how you kept motivating yourself when things got tough?
craisins 86: RIGHT! It's not that big a deal, and it's sustainable. The biggest problem becomes IMPRATIENCE. So as she said above, find something else to focus on and don't get all wild about the weight loss. It'll come when you allow it, let it, encourage it. You don't have to beat it to death along with yourself.
I’ve been through this twice. I once lost 27kg in almost 2 years. It took me 3 years to regain all the weight. Last year, I lost 15kg. It took me three weeks to go back to normal once I quit keto.
jesus just because people are fat dosent mean they are bad people.... realize that. yeah track your food and of course don't eat a half a dozen donuts but just because people are overweight dosent mean they deserve to be unloved or scorned by society
What is wrong with you ? Obesity is the leading cause of death. It's about health, no one is saying that you have to have a six pack but if you gain too much of weight then it's unhealthy . There's no excuse for people who don't make an attempt to get healthier to lead a better quality of life
I've lost half of my body weight and now have a normal BMI however it's a struggle every day all day. It's easy to be judgmental of someone when you don't understand the struggle of food addiction. You can't stay away from food like you stay away from drugs. I feel for these people and wish them all the best!💕💕💕
As I watched this i kept wondering "why are none of them turning to fasting?" Intermittent fasting is good for daily life but full water fasting can be helpful to rest your digestive system and let it reset naturally....
@@christaggart5687 hard core keto isn't sustainable but with keto you control your metabolism and your ability to process carbs better and use them as fuel. I'm on a modified keto and this is sustainable massively.
True! I started doing hardcore keto- 20 grams and below and actually lost FAR too much weight. I upped it and naturally gravitate to 50-80. And my strength is increasing, I am not gaining back fat. Did I put weight on? yes. but muscle! YES! czcams.com/video/WILu0d2TnfQ/video.html
These poor individuals did not learn about proper nutrition and they did far too much exercise whilst on the ranch, hence they lost that weight too fast. 90 days and exercising 4+ hours a day, what does one expect. They need to get in more strength and weight training. They do far too much cardio. Strength training will help set their metabolisms right again but it will take time, and cardio will need to be reduced. The Biggest Loser needs to take some tips from that other show, Extreme Weightloss. The way they encourage the participants to lose weight over an entire year and not just a couple of months is the way it should be done. They still work but have to learn to fit in the exercise and good eating in between. The Biggest Loser doesn't care about these participants. The creator even said so himself when the consultant dietitians told him safe weightloss is 1-3 pounds a week. He said but after 3 months that'll only be on average 30 pounds lost. That doesn't make for an exciting TV program. Smh
@@melanier-f2799 It may not be 100 lbs, but I'm down 60 lbs from where I was when I started two years ago. About half of that weight was lost over a three month period where I was pretty aggressive in my diet. After that my weight stayed pretty much the same for a year until I decided to buckle down and lose the last 15 vanity pounds. I've lost 10 of those pounds over the last two months and I should be at less than 10% body fat within the next month or two. All this time I've focused almost exclusively on nutrition. My exercise routine has consisted almost exclusively of strength training workouts that take up less than 30 minutes each day. Long term weight loss is hard, and requires major mental shifts in your additude towards food, but it's entirely doable. Exercise is entirely optional and should not be your primary focus if you're trying to lose weight.
Also, as someone who has dealt with weight issues and is technically classified as obese, I’ve pushed my luck with 1200 calories being 5’7” and 22 with my activity level being at moderate and I was fatigued, had migraines and at one point lost color in my skin because my body couldn’t live off of it. Every body lives off of a different caloric intake depending on their bodies biological structure involving weight. You also need to take into account gender, height, activity level, etc. so there’s many different factors in someone’s daily calorie limit.
yup. I lost @140 lbs///nearing 300 as I type. I've found that the 1200-1400 kcal diet is just not enough IF you also plan to exercise, walk etc....and unless bedridden, just not a healthy choice for anyone seeking to regain muscular strength and rejoin the world. thanks! 2000-2400 kcal for an exercising, attempting to be active adult....with some variations//as you wrote SHOULD work for any obese person MOTIVATED to lose weight. All the best!
You can't expect to train your metabolism in only three months, when you have developed a habit of eating junk over years. These people are just trying to blame the show for their lack of discipline. Over eating and obesity are almost similar to being a drug addict.
PoliTainment you have a point But the answers not that simple I bet it is hard. Are you or have you ever been overweight? It’s easier to judge when you aren’t in that situation.
Absolutely disagree with you. Starvation, severe dieting and overexercise will slow down your metabolism. Look at the Minnesota Semi-Starvation Experiment from 1944. The show did not allow for a natural normal progression in weight loss, it was a crash diet... thus obviously changes in metabolism happened drastically. On the show they exercised for 8 hours a day. This is not normal, nor sustainable. It is not the lack of discipline that caused the weight gain. My argument is that it is the ridiculous nature of the way it was taken off in the first place. It was never taken off in a way that was meant to be kept off.
You claim '"severe" diets work and then say they were crash dieting? That's a load. You'll have to do better than an ancient experiment from 1944. It's pretty detestable that you would refer to lack of starving oneself as a 'lack of discipline'. No one should do that to themselves, nor do they need such superhuman 'discipline' to be considered non-lazy.
The brain will likely adjust to the weight loss if it is maintained for several years. It's called a "set point." The body is trying to maintain whatever it has come to believe is the ideal weight. I would like to see the studies on participants who kept the weight off for 3 ayears. I assume the metabolism would be normalize at some point. Edit: I am not defending the weight loss strategies on the show, which are unhealthy and counterproductive to long term success.
Look into Keto. For the first time in my life I lost weight without getting sick. For the first time in my life I lost weight while simultaneously raising my metabolism, and never gained anything back when keto was over. Look into Keto.
Eddie Gamez How is keto risking the rate of heart disease when you’re eating fruits and vegetables and meat you could say eating just plain meat can cause it eating meat causes cancer is the number one carcinogen above cigarettes but yet here we are
@@sheluvssmokedupeyes1 keto cuts out an entire food group (carbohydrates) which is necessary to function and have ample energy. Sure, the goal with keto is to burn fat as energy (ketosis) but the body cannot sustain that long term because of the severe restrictions. You're also eating an abnormal amount of protein. The body takes much longer to process energy from protein and what isn't processed (or needed) is going to be stored as fat.
Working out 2 hours a day and eating 1400 calories is not good. I don't have a degree in nutrition but I know it's not just about food and exercise. Hormones and sleep comes to play too and if your stressed and always hungry the hormones you release won't let u lose shit. I graruntee quite a few of them have sleeping problems too from being hungry.
It's about matching you food intake to your activity level. If all you do is sit behind a computer screen 1400 calories may be too much. Where as if you have to catch the bus, and go shopping 1400 will have you dying of hunger.
It's because people are just commenting based on anecdotal experience or what the nutritionist told them, or Worse what Google has told them lol... They haven't actually study physiology and how the body works. That will clear up a lot of his Bro Science being tossed hither and thither
As a 16year old who lost 75lbs in a YEAR , which way slower than they did. I can confirm that the slower the *fat loss* the most successful and on top of that Fasting and keto changed my life COMPLETELY, i crushed hunger and can go days staying active weightlifting while being fasted .
What makes me kinda laugh is the creator of the show says “when they blame something else that it’s not their fault, it makes them feel better” he’s doing the exact same thing! - It’s not HIS show that caused their metabolism problem...
The key 🔑 is fasting. All fasting. Stop eating for 24 hrs. Do intermittent fasting, water fasting, or dry fast. I stopped watching that show a long time ago because the weight loss program they gave contestants seemed very unhealthy. They ate BS carbs and did endless hrs of cardio in one day! That’s not needed to lose weight. You will get better results lifting weights. No way I would train with any of those biggest loser trainers.
No the key isn’t fasting or keto or paleo or the carnivore diet. It’s calories in vs calories out. Plain and simple and that’s baked by actual science.
Travis Williams CZcams dr Jason Fung. It’s not about calories in vs out. You can lose weight lowering your calories drastically but you will mess up your metabolism. Fasting has now been proven better for weight loss.
iSweatGlitter established know science states calories in vs calories out. It’s proven science. FYI if you don’t eat for extended period of time, especially days you are drastically reducing your calories. Use your head!
Travis Williams it’s not about just calories in vs calories out. If you’ve ever been fat and tried to cut on 1200 calories a day it’s damn near impossible and you will not have consistency with weight loss but keep thinking it’s just calories in vs out and continue the bro science so you can’t help people actually lose weight smh.
Key phrase here: "Can't eat like a normal person". Exactly. You can't go back to eating cheese burgers daily like some of these contestants most likely did before they went on the show. I'm not blaming them. Those trainers probably didn't emphasize that to them when they went back to the real world. I went from 220lbs in 2009 to 155lbs in 2019 and have kept it off successfully. You always have to be mindful of your diet and your workouts. It never ends. And i'm completely fine with that!
ANNA ROSE: I agree. It's not that low. You can work around your totals and plan treats and cheat meals and it is possible. I'm losing weight at about 1600 a day now, down from 1700-1800 five months ago, and I KNOW as I get lower I'll have to cut more. At some point, it'll have to be closer to 1200 and that IS starting to get a little tight. Truth is, we're used to eating a LOT of food these days. FAR more than our ancestors ate, and with far less physical labor involved, too. When you worked dawn to dusk every day outside, in all weather, to grow your own food, care for animals, maintain a home and a farm and everything, it was a far harder life. It's so easy today to get fat! We have all the food we could ever possibly eat, and so little actual WORK. Half an hour exercise hardly compares to a full day's farming! 1400 today, 466 calories a meal, is reasonable enough! Better yet, go down to two meals a day and eat 700 calories each. Then don't snack. It all evens out, it really does.
Ursa Magick: respectfully, 1500 calories or fewer a day is not starvation level for someone who is gaining weight at that calorie level! Anything under 1200 calories is getting "too low" for normal-height adults; 1400-1500 calories is still reasonable. Anna Rose is right, it's not that low. It is fine, if you don't expect to make food a primary recreation. Below 1200 calories, people become depressed because that really is getting too low. "Starvation" level would be somewhat individualized, as are all calorie counts. If the woman in the video gains weight on more than 1400 calories a day, then 1400 is not starvation level for her, it's maintenance level. In the Nazi concentration camps, the prisoners were getting something like 600-800 calories a day, cabbage water or potato water and bread. That was starvation level, both in calories and nutrition.
Jillian Smith this is a great tip. What I find is that, combining a calorie deficit with intermittent fasting, I can eat fewer meals that leave me feeling fuller. I usually eat my first meal at 12:00 pm, have a small snack at around 3:00pm and then dinner at 7:00 or 7:30. I am down 30 pounds in 3 months and dropping fast. It is also important to keep in mind that not all calories are created equal when it comes to "feeling full." You will feel a lot fuller after eating a salad loaded with bell peppers, cucumbers and pine nuts with a 5oz portion of salmon than you will after getting the same number of calories from 4 bites of cheesecake.
Connman 8d: that's true. Calorie dense foods mean you get a lot less bulk. I've read enough about the two meals a day with consequent longer intermittent fasting to think I may try it. Good for you, great progress! Sounds like you have a good plan going there.
Rene Contreras Jr that doesn’t explain the millions of anorexics, like myself, who were seriously underweight and undereating for years, and who now eat normally and weigh a healthy amount. My metabolism did not “break” due to starving...such a myth. I didn’t even exercise all that much and I still don’t. Yet I am normal and eat normally.
This is so much more complex than the story indicates. Their bodies thought they were starving to death. The rapid weight loss triggers the metabolism to slow to prevent starvation. Slow & steady wins the race. Obviously, more research is needed, but understanding the body's ability to self preserve is key to understanding why this occurs.
Love love love fasting lol look up cole Robertson the snake diet he is a bit rough but he is so great I’ve lost 20 lbs now I live a fasting focused life style
Get in ketosis! your body will keep shedding weight without you even lifting a finger at the gym! Ketosis target the hormones not calories alone thus it doesn't slow metabolism.
Tarek Demachkie except the fact it’s terrible for your body, unrealistic long term, not necessary, the majority of lost weight is just water weight, and is terrible for 99% of the population
This is all misconceptions and wrong information. I'm at 45 lbs down of real body fat and I'm building muscles. the first 2 weeks of weight loss are water weight but then you start burning fat. Lets talk about facts, this is 6 studies on the long term effect of keto 1- www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2716748/ 2- link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs11010-005-9001-x 3- www.nutritionjrnl.com/article/S0899-9007%2814%2900044-6/abstract 4- healthimpactnews.com/2017/study-long-term-high-fat-ketogenic-diet-is-healthy-and-safe/ 5- newatlas.com/low-carb-ketogenic-diet-lifespan-memory-study/51215/ 6- www.researchgate.net/publication/7129732_Long_Term_Effects_of_Ketogenic_Diet_in_Obese_Subjects_with_High_Cholesterol_Level
Sarah Matthews yes the standard American diet sucks but the Keto diet is still not good for you. Just cause a dude trying to sell you something stalks about some studies from the 60s doesn’t mean he’s right
People should never diet. You should portion control and exercise. Read labels. I started putting on some weight, I had started eating these awesome muffins for breakfast at work. When I looked at the label I was shocked. 300 calories per serving, one muffin was 3 servings. I was eating the whole muffin. After that I started reading all the labels. You’ll be surprised how many things you will put back on the shelf.
I challenge anyone that ever struggled on a conventional “diet” to try KETO or at least a LCHF lifestyle for 3 months. What is there to lose? Besides the weight...
"When I went back to eating the foods I had before I lost all the weight, I got fat!" NO SHIT SHERLOCK. I've dropped 50 pounds and I HAVEN'T gone back to eating fattening foods.
Kyle Mikesell except they didn't go back to eating fattening foods??? The man their interviewing eats 2100 cal a day and that just maintains his overweight frame.
Metabolism is not a set thing. If someone eats high protein, moderate fat and low carb, with the majority of carbs from cruciferous vegetables, works out with weights it'll rocket, and eating that way means you get more bang for your buck calorie wise.
1400 kcal is not that little though. I’ve been bedridden due to severe illness since 2014. I can max have 1200 kcal without gaining. My BMI has been between 20-23 the last four years. And I lost over 40 pounds just by lowering the calorie intake - and I never starved.
@River Dawn it's a lot more complicated than that, you need to know your base metabolic rate (bmr) the recommended calories based on that and what food provides the required calories to maintain weight, burn fat and gain muscle it's not as simple as "lose fat weight gain muscle weight" everyone has a bmr that varies even if their weight height and waist size are the same
There are dozens (probably hundreds) of tools and info online. I found out all that info on my own, and I'm sure a doctor could also provide it. If you want to make the change, the tools are out there.
Leslie Ivarson: YES! I actually seem to HAVE muscles in my biceps now...up in 5 months from 1 pound to 9 (drop sets, no less). I know it's minimal...but it's all mine, and I did it myself the natural way. LIFT!
Sorry but if you can´t feel full on 1400 calories a day, it means you don´t eat enough nutrient dense foods. Not only she won´t feel full but will be lacking nutrients. So nutrient free foods have to go. A kilo of cucumber (around two and a half big ones) has only 150cals. For the same amount, you can have just 100g of cooked pastas which is just 42-43 g of dry pasta (an average package being 500g, you already see how less it is). The most important thing is to learn to make low calories but delicious meals. Make ice cream out of just a frozen banana with (sugar free) cacao or vanilla or whatever taste you want, tastes delicious and has only around 89 cals per 100g (plus a little if cacao is added... So a three banana ice will be maximum 300 calories and it´s like a full bowl of it. Use zucchini instead of pasta , cauliflower instead or rice (plus, it´s better to keep carbs and fats separated, so it´s a win win). Also intermittent fasting will help. If you´re eating only one meal or two meals a day, suddenly, 1300-1400 calories looks like a lot more. You could eat a fruit meal first for 600-800 calories and be full, then do your dinner with no carbs and protein and fat for 600-800 calories (whatever meal you want to be bigger) and be totally satisfied. For each meal you love, there is a low calories, delicious version to be made, vegan or none vegan.
I feel like this happened to me on Herbalife I lost 50 lbs it came back I work out I'm vegetarian. I eat less than I ever have and I stay the same 😒 I didn't want to take shakes forever
you will always have to eat the calorie amount for whatever weight that you change that's why when she said she can only eat 1400 calories what do you think of course you can't go back to eating 10000 calories a day and stay at your weight of 160 pounds for 1400 calories there are lots of foods you can eat and feel full
absolutely agree! I'm loosing weight I eat 1100-1200 calories a day mostly proteins an vegetables and I feel full. When you have a 150 -200 g steak - you don't wanna eat for several hours.
I was sympathetic until I heard her say that 1400 calories is nothing. 1400 calories is not nothing, it just depends on what you eat. Low carb, high protein diets will leave you feeling full. There are plenty of delicious foods and recipes that will leave you at or under that calorie limit. If you eat highly processed crap instead of clean, whole foods, of course you'll feel famished eating only 1400 cal a day.
If you look at the Minnesota starvation experiment and patients recovering from anorexia you do see them overshooting their original weight after the restriction ended. Yes that can be contributed to a slowed metabolism but it’s most likely due to the binge eating patterns that occur after extreme restriction. The show simulated an eating disorder
NO. This show did not simulate an eating disorder. The regime they were submitted to on the show was designed for very fast weight loss. The show lasted 5 months, so they needed to lose the weight in that time frame. An eating disorder is something completely different. Contestants drifting into an eating disorder during or after a show is another story. These people were obese. Its not the same thing to lose 20 or 30 vanity pounds than it is to lose over 100 pounds. Having said that I am curious about that lady who says she has to starve to keep the weight off. I wonder what her concept of starvation is. America has an obesity problem. I live in France, but when I go to America at a restaurant and I order a salad as an appetizer, that salad is enough to feed two or three people. The "Entree" will feed about 6 people. If one person is eating meals like that every day three or four times a day just do that math on the caloric intake and see why the whole country is overweight.
This is what I was thinking too. But dude was talking about he has to eat 800 kcals less than other men his size to maintain his weight. So I guess they meant their metabolisms are low even for their new body sizes.
Wow, everyone here doesn't realize that these guys aren't your usual fat loss subjects. They were going on a daily super huge caloric deficit. Cahill was targetting a 3500 calorie deficit..... Do u know that even if a refular person doesn't eat, he won't be able to reach that? He'd have to spend another 4 hours extra walking in the treadmill.
So if they do gain all the weight back, does their metabolism also go back to what it was? In that case, they get a second chance to lose weight the right way.
+TheBooban We dont really know. There are some people that talk about 'metabolic damage' on youtube which is relevant to your question. But all in all, this is somewhat new information.
+schneeroseful Exactly, the "experts" don't really answer that question. They just say that fast weight loss is terrible. All that I have read about slow weight loss is that it is merely an assumption that it is better. It may also be that metabolism readjusts over time, not how fast or how slow the weight loss is. But as Jonathan said, this is "new" research. btw, I find that rapid weight loss is easier psychologically. Slow weight loss is torturious.
I already have a metabolic diverse that slows down my metabolism so I need to be extra careful. I do not feel hungry or tortured by making small steps.
Caloric deficit diet with frequent eating time and exercise is not sustainable because it is dropping your base metabolic rate. The better diet is intermittent fasting.
I wonder if part of it is because they lost so much weight in a short period of time and that ruined their metabolism. But part of it might be because of what they are eating.
That’s why you have to eat less(to your portion) and exercise regularly. You can’t expect to eat the same way that you used to after losing so much weight.
This is literally common sense, shows the exact type of excuses and psychology that made him 430 in the first place. Sounds like he doesn’t understand what he’s doing at all
I have lost 220 on 2 years. Over 150 in a year. I have been reading up on metabolism studies. Yes, your metabolism does slow down. What they so not talk about, is that your muscles become more efficient in burning calories as well. Most people who lose weight will have to eat 20-30% less, or exercise that much more to keep the weight off. As far as there metabolism continuing to slide, this is the only study that shows that. From what I have read, there have been some questions about the rmr equations they used pre and post weight loss. I know, that I have to eat about 500 calories a day less than someone my size and physical activity level at this time. I am still in recovery after all the weight loss. Look up Dr. Rudy lebeil. He has done many studies on people who lose weight. Also people on the national weight control registry. Wish me luck to keep it off long term. To all who are trying to lose or maintain, best of luck.
Lost the weight too fast. It should have been something that takes years and a slow loss that way you don't mess your metabolism. Under 50lbs loss, it may not make much a difference if you lose it a little fast but the moment your hitting triple digit it matters a lot. This is from someone who has lost as much as the greatest loser contestants. I lose 305lbs but it was 3-year process. One pound or two a week.
@@cinthssucession The be honest I keep most of it off but I won't lie I had put on 25lbs do to stress, going back to school, new job, covid shut down. I just starting to get back on the saddle as they say. Looking to lose into 20 pound increments . I was almost 610lbs when I started. I'm getting older as well and energy is getting harder to get when you factor everything I'm doing now. I did not have a crazy diet most of the time either losing weight or gaining weight. The factor for me was stress, energy and activity.
Well, these people could always pack on muscle 🤷🏾♂️ if your body wants to add the weight back on, why not let it be good weight. Plus, adding muscle mass gives your body an excuse to need to consume more calories. It’s win win
I can really relate to everything that these people on the show are talking about, ive struggled with my weight my entire life being ridiculed by my own parents even, ill never forget when my mom told me "oh your dad and i thought you were gonna grow up to be a skinny little thing! But nope guess not." It really hurts and its very hard for a person that has been overweight their entire life to restrict themselves so much its not an excuse but it really does take a toll on your mental health. It is very much like being an alcoholic or a drug addict, you will always have triggers and every day is a struggle.
Amen, keto Power. i've killed my diabetes and put my IBSD hypertension and asthma in hospice care. this is like a war and I'M GOING TO WIN! even my congenital dyserythropoeitic anemia has taken a hit from all the vitamins i take in now. lots of b vitamins from all the meat and fish, vitamin c magnesium and other vitamins and minerals from the green veggies i eat, potassium in the avocados
@@lizwiggins5788 Dont you feel you've been lied to your entire life about eating????? I wish I had known all of this 30 years ago. My entire body has changed since I have gone Keto, and I'm not talking just about weight management I was always in shape but it was really really difficult to maintain. The hardest thing I had to learn to deal with was that everything in moderation is a lie. There are many things that are "never evers". And " eating little and often" was sabotaging my weight.
@@mbear1639 I HAVE been lied to my whole life about nutrition, I just turned 33 in the last couple weeks, i didn't learn about keto til i was 31. now i'm stuck playing catch up, and so is everyone else my age, and anyone older has been lied to for even longer, unless they're about 75 and up. the ADA and AHA didn't start til the 50's
@@lizwiggins5788 I'm 53. Born and raused in Ohio (but lived 14 yrs outside the US) and I can say, FROM EXPERIENCE, our diet is absolutely killing is and just horrible. Im not "anti big business" but what they have done to our food supply is nothing short of criminal.
I think it's amazing that even when given some scientific evidence that weight loss goes beyond eat less workout people still fall back on "well that fatty shouldn't eat donuts duh" is ridiculous.
lillian girvin And yet...I have never known a fat person who didn’t eat too much. Plenty say they eat like birds, but when I am around them they eat a LOT. Not being mean, just my observation. Similarly, people who are thin and say they eat a lot really don’t eat a lot. I think people define “a lot” of food quite differently.
Lol donuts will not help you lose weight under any diet. Carbs and sugars cut is a must. Keto diet with intermittent fasting increases your metabolism.
I became obese in my teens. My family was homeless, and we ate whatever the homeless shelters gave us. Which was usually bread, pasta, and canned food. It made me feel sick, tired, and have migraines. I couldn't concentrate at school. I left school early, and got odd jobs. I was able to buy apples, and oranges. They made me feel good. But I still couldn't lose weight. A famous martial arts instructor decided to teach me martial arts for free if I maintained his gym. I stopped eating food from homeless shelters. I only ate two cheap fruits or carrots per day. Sometimes nothing at all. I exercised 4-6hrs per day for 3yrs. I became anorexic, because only beautiful skinny women get jobs in which they face customers. I noticed that when applying for jobs. One day I injured my foot, and knee badly. I couldn't exercise. I couldn't buy my own food for 2months. My family brought me canned food, and bread. Within a week I was putting on lots of weight. So much weight that I had to go back to hospital to get a new cast on my leg. After 2 months I was back to my obese size plus a little extra. I felt like the past 3yrs was a waste of time. Today I'm having trouble losing weight. I do plenty of exercise, because I can't afford a car. I walk 40min to shops, and 40min back with heavy items. I also do heavy labor intensive jobs daily. I don't buy junk food. I only eat junk food from homeless shelters when I can't afford food. Homeless shelters in my area never have fresh fruit, vegetables, and meat. I also have PCOS that interferes with losing weight. But PCOS doesn't prevent weight lose. It makes it harder. I don't drink, smoke or do any drugs.
What I want to know is : would their metabolism have also slowed down if they had lost the weight gradually ? If the answer is yes, then the show is not the problem, even though I realise that the fat shaming of former biggest loser contestants is awful and has to stop.
I know they will be full longer eat broccoli and cauliflower. I would like to see them eat a 12 oz ribeye with six cups of veggies and not be full. Actually these people would have been better off with the snake diet or just fasting with supplements in general. Eating five hundred calories then burning five thousand makes no sense. You lose way less muscle when fasting too.
On a low calorie diet the metabolism slows down because it doesn't need to be that fast. You barely have anything to metabolize since you're eating so little. So if you do intermittent fasting or Keto, since you are allowed to eat more food, your metabolism can actually SPEED UP! Your metabolism doesn't just slow down for the rest of your life just because you lose weight, it can recover if you diet correctly. I am speaking out of experience, cutting carbs and fasting brought me down to single digit body fat in 2013 and I never gained the weight back and exercise isn't even needed, I did it with diet alone
The failure of the contestants to keep their weight off proves that we have a very immoral society that craves the unsustainable. This also proves that the contestants 9 out of 10 times were either taking drugs or doing things that were very dangerous to get big numbers and percentages.
Are these people doing anything throughout the day?! These woman says in order to maintain needs to eat less than 1400 KCal a day - that's BS, you would burn that even laying down. They are misinterpreting this study somehow, or they aren't truthful about what they eat or they don't do shit whole day. I bet my life that that woman can eat 2000 kCal a day, nice balanced calories/nutrients, with moderate activity and won't gain a single gram of body weight. But don't give me this BS, you tried it for 5 days and the scale show a number and you give up, give me a year of this average and then say it doesn't work. I call this BS, because i know about calories and PHYSICS and these people are playing mental gymnastics and aren't fully truthful about what they are saying. They are all in serious overeating mode, it's not that their metabolism is slow.
These people used to workout 7 hours a day and they didn't go to work and they had a nutritionist on-site they had to go back into the real world where they work 9 to 5 job took care of their kids so when would there have been time to maintain that weight that they lost on The Biggest Loser
So basically they are saying, these people worked there ass off to lose weight, and then, when the show is over, they disnt know they had to continue to work their ass off? Seems like they gave up.
.....I'm not so sure about this. A heavier person burns more resting calories (moving or resting) than a smaller person ,so losing the weight means you need less calories. If they are still eating a heavier person's diet then it makes sense that they gained their weight back. What am I missing here?
I’ve never been morbidly obese and I’ve always had to eat 1,400 calories a day to maintain my weight. I think some of these people are confused about what the “normal” person eats in a day.
This is very simple... THEY OVER ATE!!!!!!!. If you eat more calories than what your weight requires than your weight goes up. Metabolism plays a part in the burning of those calories but it is still your job to keep within your daily caloric budget provided by a weight chart. If you notice that you continue to either gain weight or lose weight than you adjust your budget accordingly.
All excuses you don't gain weight by eating nothing. My point count calories and portion control. add exercise and it is easy to do. I lost 75 lbs 6 years ago and easily keep it off.
I was always under the impression that our metabolism slowed down as we age anyway, making it harder to maintain your weight, I am 52 and I have never been overweight and I have never been to a gym or been on a weight loss diet, I do eat a lot of bread and way too much cheese and chocolate, and I spend my days in front of a computer screen and have played sport (squash) twice a week for over 30 years, I weigh 146 lbs at 5ft 10", some people may say that I am just lucky and that genetics has a lot to do with it, yet both my mother and my sister are/were obese , the only difference in our lifestyles is they didn't play any sport and they eat meat. I have been a vegetarian for the last 45 years, you do the math.
I sadly have the opposite. I have to eat a lot to keep weight on. Especially if I am eating healthy, then I have to eat all day long. After giving birth to 9 children, and being 38 years old, I still have to take a weight gainer shake every morning. I think the struggle goes both ways. But people skinny shame and think it's okay. It is never okay to shame anyone, ever.
Being “Full” is all in your mind. Eat healthy and workout plain and simple. Follow one of these people everyday to see what they do I guarantee they aren’t doing what’s right to stay in shape
The problem is American food is ladled with obscene chemicals and calories..i.e liquid cheese thats poured over everything...strange processed foods...1400 is very possible if you do it right...high fiber...pulses, meats..
Look, I am not one to judge but 1,400 or 1,500 is actually enough - if you eat high fiber, high nutrient, high protein things. I do that now, and there are days I eat less than that. Paleo diet is pretty damn filling for one. My guess is, no one was taught nutrition.
WTF- 1400 calories is heaps. I ate 1371 calories today and reached 88% of my nutrition targets, although my calcium and potassium were pretty low sadly. Anyway, I pretty much feel like I just ate all day- it was one of those days. If she thinks that 1400 calories is nothing- no wonder these people get fat.
I'm throwing this out as a grossly obese person who has lost a hundred pounds and who and not gained it back but still needs to lose another 80. Why is it that the Holocaust people who came out of the camps just grossly thin I mean just skin and bones why didn't their metabolism stay broken for their whole life? I think it's worth pondering. If I had my own thoughts on it I would say that the ones of us that are fat are addicted to food all those chemicals they put in the food to make food palatable to us we are addicted to it.
I do keto with intermittent fasting and I don't find it remotely difficult to stay under 1400 calories a day. And I have enough energy to do intense physical training 2-3 times a week. Change your fuel source, folks. (PS- that Roth guy eating his pineapple salad really grinds my gears.)
Who would have thought exercising for 8 hours a day wasnt sustainable?
ClassicGamesCanada I dont believe it... I exercised 5 hours w breaks but 3 was not bad at all
@@GloryToTheHighest I can only last 30 mins 😔
It doesn't need to be its the calorie intake
They didn't interview the one person who didn't gain weight back? I want to know what that person is doing.
I've just read in a book by Jason Fung M.D., that he had bariatric surgery
Robyn L: no kidding? Sheesh! I'd love to see a show, "Slow and steady wins the race," or something to that effect, watching super fat people over a five-year period (or the old Star Trek goal, THREE years) and see how they learn and what they change and how they manage...if they manage. But it would be SLOW...probably not great TV...but it'd be super for learning about something we should have learned about when we were kids--and didn't.
Jillian Smith they have a show like that, it's. Called "My 600 pound life" and it's pretty popular
Jasmin R: yeah, I gotta watch some of the whole episodes of that. So far CZcams wanted money for them...I see there are some available now for free. But don't they all have bariatric surgery on that show? In which case, it's not all that slow and steady. I love the short clips I've seen for free...very inspiring.
Jillian Smith
Yes the contestants do have gastraic bypass surgery
If these folks lost 100 pounds in 3 months, no wonder they're metabolism is screwed up. That's crazy. Word to the wise: Do it slowly, or at least moderately paced.
D. Lawrence Absolutely right....I’m loosing weight slowly myself...I’ve taken away sodas one week....and took away all junk food and I’ve slowly lost weight...haven’t met my goal yet but l’m working on it
@@devinrivers5808 I lost weight in 6 months like 60 lbs it has been a year I have never gained 1% of fat I increase my weight by 12 pounds all of it was muscle mass it is easy
Jenifer Hudson didn't lose all of that weight overnight though 😒
Instead of dropping insane amount of weight per week
Just do it gradually
Of course the metabolism is going to fight back if you loose 200lbs in a manner of months!
Tawanda Aquino that's no way to keep people interested in a tv show though...
No that's not what the studies are showing. They are showing that regardless of the method or rate of weight loss, the body fights to get back to that original weight. So they could've lost 200lbs over 2 years or 4 months and their metabolism still would've dropped.
The study only included biggest losser contestants. It doesn't and can't prove anything about slow weight loss because they simply weren't included. The vast majority of people that want to loss weight do so with the intention of reaching a certain weight rather than a permanent lifestyle changes. Many adopt extreme diets to achieve this goal that are never going to be sustainable. They pile on the pounds again because they stop paying attention to what they're eating so old bad habits slowly creep back and before you know it they are right back where they started. Some individuals don't have the luxury of not paying attention to what their eating. I'm one of them. Was always fat as a kid. Yo-yo dieted for years. Today I've lost 46 lbs and kept it off for a year because I pay attention to what I eat. I know if I don't old habits will slip back because they've been ingrained from childhood.
falynch: THANK YOU! Wise words and well-written. (Hmmm WWWW). I agree 100%. And congrats and best to you on your lifestyle change! (25 pounds in 5 months here...and no intention of being oblivious again...as long as I'm not senile!)
100% agree. It's about lifestyle changes, and you can only achieve change if you make food choices, exercise, therapy, and stress management a habit. It's much harder than people think.
I lost 105lbs through diet and exercise only, and have kept it off since 2014. I work out and eat normally most of the time. It takes a commitment and desire to change your life. I am almost 50 years old and also disabled.... so, it can be done. However, I don't think the contestants were given enough real life tools to maintain a healthy, sustainable lifestyle.
Bingo! A lack of real-world tools is the problem. Crazy fast weight loss, diet pills, hrs of cardio per day, starvation diets, etc. Science has KNOWN, FOR MANY YEARS that this screws up metabolism. This study is NOT revealing some shocking new discovery about metabolism. The premise of the show itself: INtense competition and a win at all cost mentality to lose weight as quickly as possible via idiotic methods is the problem. The "trainers" absolutely disgust me! Having a certification means you took the coursework. It doesn't mean you automatically intelligently apply what you learned. Their choices of exercise and activities were ridiculous in many cases. A 350 lb woman running? Doing freaking handstands? Seriously? What about joint damage or muscle tears? But hey, it looks "hardcore " and "extreme" so its good TV, ....right? And no, I was never 200 lbs overweight, but I took a slow and consistent approach and made MASSIVE changes to BOTH my body and MIND. I actually changed my lifestyle and educated myself about exercise and nutrition and while I can easily add fat, maintaining a healthy weight is almost easy....now. No, not easy as in " I can go back to eating a box of crackers, a half block of cheese ,half a jar of olives and a 32 ox Pepesi for a meal." and stop exercising daily (45 minutes). But, ikt is doable and is not a hassle. People need education and tools in addition to the desire to change. I had the desire, but took time to educate myself and acquire tools. It was worth it.
Scott Holley: absolutely! Good for you! Great comment. 25 pounds for me in 5 months, still going fine, slow as glaciers and that's OKAY! By the time I'm to goal (and it's higher than any dietician would've set, I'm sure), I'll know who I am and how I got there and how to stay there. I cannot and will not go back to the fun old lifestyle of eating whatever I wanted in whatever quantities I wanted...now I can have whatever--but I have to limit it to one portion. So what? I eat it slowly and I enjoy it to the max. No cravings. Or--only a few, and in control.
GREAT to hear people like you on these forums...too many people are too deluded on this very important issue!
foxiefair123 I agree I don’t think they were given proper tools to keep the weight off .
Wow way to go! And I think also putting their bodies through extreme workouts and extremely low calorie intakes messed up their metabolisms permanently :/
Scott Holley: now _50 pounds_ in 14 months and still going fine. Slow and steady. Like riding a glacier but when you look back you see how far you've come. Re-educating yourself is key. Lifetime dedication to ones own health and body is key. We no longer lock up the potato chips. I'm happy now with a single-serving size bag once in a while at a meal. I know I can have any type of food I want...I just can't have all the food I can eat like I used to. I have one plate and sometimes don't finish that. We've gone down to only two meals a day, and today we're looking at only one--and aren't particularly hungry. Intermittent fasting, times when you simply aren't going to eat, is helpful.
Also helpful are new hobbies, new activities, new things to think about, new connections to the outer world. Light exercise, particularly some muscle building by lifting small weights, can help some, but basically it's all about the food and how much MY body needs, not how much someone else eats or how much I'm served at a restaurant. It is doable. It was a hassle at first, but I look back now and realize how much I've learned and changed in 14 months. I won't go back.
I lost 80 lbs and have a BMI of 21 now. I've kept the weight off for 2 years by balancing life. Exercise and clean eating is the key.
BUT WHAT WERE THEY EATING AFTER THE SHOW???
Exactly! He said "ate like a normal person". I wonder exactly what that means. Metabolism only justifies for so much caloric expenditure.
Exactly ! Lots of sugar and processed food probably.
They were also working out 6 hours a day. That is part of the issue
If they were part of a study im sure the study kept track of what they were eating. A normal person man is 2500 cal and he said to maintain his 200 something body weight he's eating 2100. Which is odd for a pretty big guy.
You have to understand how weight loss works, it’s scientifically proven. Your fat cells don’t disappear when you loose weight, your empty fat cells signal your brain that they are empty, thus you are starving, so your body makes sure your metabolism slows down tremendously. It’s not for nothing that the chances of anyone keeping weight loss on the long term is less then 5%. Also the hormones are sooo out of whack when you loose weight this fast, fat cells release huge amounts of hormones when you loose weight. It’s so easy to judge when you don’t understand how the body and metabolism actually works, it’s simply not sustainable. This is coming from someone who lost 165 pounds, and I have kept it off for 2 years now. Your body will do everything to go back to that weight, believe you me, I cannot eat the way I did when I was at this weight 15 years ago, not even close, eating more than 1000 calories a day is not doable for me to keep this weight off. Im well, but I have very big hormonal issues that my doctors are trying to resolve. Maybe research scientific evidence instead of making quick and totally wrong judgments.
I lost more than 100lbs and currently I don't have any metabolic damage. I burn as much as I should each day. I didn't do it with any special diet such as veganism or high protein. I just ate at a small deficit (1500-1800 calories for a 5'1'' woman) and worked out frequently but not to a point that I damage my -then unfit- body.
I feel sorry for these people because they were treated with extreme diets and exercise regimens but didn't learn beforehand the reasons they're having these bad habits. I still have bad days where I struggle with maintaining my weight and I certainly worry about losing control again. I've maintained for over 2 years now, I am proud but I still have a journey to make, that being a journey of self acceptance.
Weight loss is simple: eat less junk and move more. The mindset is the thing that has to change for good to start and/or maintain the weight loss. No specific diet, workout program will do this for you. It's only you and that's the wonderful aspect of it. Get to know how strong you are and get yourself where you really deserve to be. :)
P.S. We are far more than what we weigh or what we eat. So a good tip to people who wanna lose weight is to find something that you like and go for it. It can be anything as long as you like it. Extend yourself further than food and body image and express yourself. Anything that makes you feel well is more likely to help you making yourself healthier!
Ana Def very well said
Your story is very inspiring to me as I need to lose 60 lbs myself. You've been very smart by deciding to stick to a modest caloric deficit instead of going as low as 1200-1400 kkals like my fitness trainers told me to ( I'm 5'2"), which made me develop disordred eating behaviours... Could you share a bit more on how you kept motivating yourself when things got tough?
Yes I agree but they were on crash diets and taking pills. But the should be doing it healthy
craisins 86: RIGHT! It's not that big a deal, and it's sustainable. The biggest problem becomes IMPRATIENCE. So as she said above, find something else to focus on and don't get all wild about the weight loss. It'll come when you allow it, let it, encourage it. You don't have to beat it to death along with yourself.
Ana Def Very inspirational story, thank you for sharing. One year later, are you still maintaining?
I would like to hear the interview of that one former contestant who didn't gain the weight back.
I’ve been through this twice. I once lost 27kg in almost 2 years. It took me 3 years to regain all the weight. Last year, I lost 15kg. It took me three weeks to go back to normal once I quit keto.
fix your diet
jesus just because people are fat dosent mean they are bad people.... realize that. yeah track your food and of course don't eat a half a dozen donuts but just because people are overweight dosent mean they deserve to be unloved or scorned by society
What is wrong with you ? Obesity is the leading cause of death. It's about health, no one is saying that you have to have a six pack but if you gain too much of weight then it's unhealthy . There's no excuse for people who don't make an attempt to get healthier to lead a better quality of life
@@yusciangovindasamy1744 , she's just saying that the hate is unnecessary.
I've lost half of my body weight and now have a normal BMI however it's a struggle every day all day. It's easy to be judgmental of someone when you don't understand the struggle of food addiction. You can't stay away from food like you stay away from drugs. I feel for these people and wish them all the best!💕💕💕
you just cannot eat sugary and process foods anymore
Danny has always had such an attractive face
Go Keto (the healthy version), along with intermittent fasting. It works and is sustainable!
As I watched this i kept wondering "why are none of them turning to fasting?"
Intermittent fasting is good for daily life but full water fasting can be helpful to rest your digestive system and let it reset naturally....
Keto actually isn’t sustainable. Lots of research on this. Great for short term up to a year. Any longer than that, it’s not
@@christaggart5687 hard core keto isn't sustainable but with keto you control your metabolism and your ability to process carbs better and use them as fuel.
I'm on a modified keto and this is sustainable massively.
Chantale Woodrow yes that’s how I live!!!!
True! I started doing hardcore keto- 20 grams and below and actually lost FAR too much weight. I upped it and naturally gravitate to 50-80. And my strength is increasing, I am not gaining back fat. Did I put weight on? yes. but muscle! YES! czcams.com/video/WILu0d2TnfQ/video.html
These poor individuals did not learn about proper nutrition and they did far too much exercise whilst on the ranch, hence they lost that weight too fast. 90 days and exercising 4+ hours a day, what does one expect. They need to get in more strength and weight training. They do far too much cardio. Strength training will help set their metabolisms right again but it will take time, and cardio will need to be reduced. The Biggest Loser needs to take some tips from that other show, Extreme Weightloss. The way they encourage the participants to lose weight over an entire year and not just a couple of months is the way it should be done. They still work but have to learn to fit in the exercise and good eating in between. The Biggest Loser doesn't care about these participants. The creator even said so himself when the consultant dietitians told him safe weightloss is 1-3 pounds a week. He said but after 3 months that'll only be on average 30 pounds lost. That doesn't make for an exciting TV program. Smh
The show was unrealistic
most contestants of extreme weightloss also gsin the weight back
I've lost 100 pounds all on my own and haven't gained a single pound back...
whyjordie at what cost, is the question.
Do you still calorie restrict? Do you work out 2 hours a day?
Yah did u work out 7 hours a day and weigh a ton?? And only eat 2000 calories. And do it in only a few months yah didnt think so
whyjordie: congratulations! Good for you!
@@melanier-f2799 It may not be 100 lbs, but I'm down 60 lbs from where I was when I started two years ago. About half of that weight was lost over a three month period where I was pretty aggressive in my diet. After that my weight stayed pretty much the same for a year until I decided to buckle down and lose the last 15 vanity pounds. I've lost 10 of those pounds over the last two months and I should be at less than 10% body fat within the next month or two.
All this time I've focused almost exclusively on nutrition. My exercise routine has consisted almost exclusively of strength training workouts that take up less than 30 minutes each day.
Long term weight loss is hard, and requires major mental shifts in your additude towards food, but it's entirely doable. Exercise is entirely optional and should not be your primary focus if you're trying to lose weight.
whyjordie congrats what did you do to maintain.
Also, as someone who has dealt with weight issues and is technically classified as obese, I’ve pushed my luck with 1200 calories being 5’7” and 22 with my activity level being at moderate and I was fatigued, had migraines and at one point lost color in my skin because my body couldn’t live off of it. Every body lives off of a different caloric intake depending on their bodies biological structure involving weight. You also need to take into account gender, height, activity level, etc. so there’s many different factors in someone’s daily calorie limit.
yup. I lost @140 lbs///nearing 300 as I type. I've found that the 1200-1400 kcal diet is just not enough IF you also plan to exercise, walk etc....and unless bedridden, just not a healthy choice for anyone seeking to regain muscular strength and rejoin the world. thanks! 2000-2400 kcal for an exercising, attempting to be active adult....with some variations//as you wrote SHOULD work for any obese person MOTIVATED to lose weight. All the best!
You can't expect to train your metabolism in only three months, when you have developed a habit of eating junk over years. These people are just trying to blame the show for their lack of discipline. Over eating and obesity are almost similar to being a drug addict.
PoliTainment you have a point
But the answers not that simple
I bet it is hard. Are you or have you ever been overweight? It’s easier to judge when you aren’t in that situation.
Willing to bet you don't have the discipline needed to change their bodies in this society. Comments like yours are just toxic.
Absolutely disagree with you. Starvation, severe dieting and overexercise will slow down your metabolism. Look at the Minnesota Semi-Starvation Experiment from 1944. The show did not allow for a natural normal progression in weight loss, it was a crash diet... thus obviously changes in metabolism happened drastically. On the show they exercised for 8 hours a day. This is not normal, nor sustainable. It is not the lack of discipline that caused the weight gain. My argument is that it is the ridiculous nature of the way it was taken off in the first place. It was never taken off in a way that was meant to be kept off.
You claim '"severe" diets work and then say they were crash dieting? That's a load. You'll have to do better than an ancient experiment from 1944. It's pretty detestable that you would refer to lack of starving oneself as a 'lack of discipline'. No one should do that to themselves, nor do they need such superhuman 'discipline' to be considered non-lazy.
The brain will likely adjust to the weight loss if it is maintained for several years. It's called a "set point." The body is trying to maintain whatever it has come to believe is the ideal weight. I would like to see the studies on participants who kept the weight off for 3 ayears. I assume the metabolism would be normalize at some point.
Edit: I am not defending the weight loss strategies on the show, which are unhealthy and counterproductive to long term success.
Look into Keto. For the first time in my life I lost weight without getting sick. For the first time in my life I lost weight while simultaneously raising my metabolism, and never gained anything back when keto was over. Look into Keto.
the trick to managing this is watching what triggers insulin spikes. that’s why keto and intermittent fasting works really well.
losing weight without addressing the insulin problem is setting yourself up for failure.
Yessss 👏🏼
keto isn't really that sustainable and it increases the risk of heart disease.
Eddie Gamez How is keto risking the rate of heart disease when you’re eating fruits and vegetables and meat you could say eating just plain meat can cause it eating meat causes cancer is the number one carcinogen above cigarettes but yet here we are
@@sheluvssmokedupeyes1 keto cuts out an entire food group (carbohydrates) which is necessary to function and have ample energy. Sure, the goal with keto is to burn fat as energy (ketosis) but the body cannot sustain that long term because of the severe restrictions.
You're also eating an abnormal amount of protein. The body takes much longer to process energy from protein and what isn't processed (or needed) is going to be stored as fat.
Working out 2 hours a day and eating 1400 calories is not good. I don't have a degree in nutrition but I know it's not just about food and exercise. Hormones and sleep comes to play too and if your stressed and always hungry the hormones you release won't let u lose shit. I graruntee quite a few of them have sleeping problems too from being hungry.
It's about matching you food intake to your activity level. If all you do is sit behind a computer screen 1400 calories may be too much. Where as if you have to catch the bus, and go shopping 1400 will have you dying of hunger.
There is so much broscience in the comment section AND in the show, I'm surprised people pay for this shit.
This comments section makes my fucking brain hurt.
It's because people are just commenting based on anecdotal experience or what the nutritionist told them, or Worse what Google has told them lol... They haven't actually study physiology and how the body works. That will clear up a lot of his Bro Science being tossed hither and thither
Lolz, newsflash, most people don't pay for CZcams.
Try Keto with Intermittant Fasting! It works! No hunger. Fuel source uses ketones, not insulin!
As a 16year old who lost 75lbs in a YEAR , which way slower than they did. I can confirm that the slower the *fat loss* the most successful and on top of that Fasting and keto changed my life COMPLETELY, i crushed hunger and can go days staying active weightlifting while being fasted .
What makes me kinda laugh is the creator of the show says “when they blame something else that it’s not their fault, it makes them feel better” he’s doing the exact same thing! - It’s not HIS show that caused their metabolism problem...
And then he had the nerve to make a new weight loss show “the big fat truth”
The key 🔑 is fasting. All fasting. Stop eating for 24 hrs. Do intermittent fasting, water fasting, or dry fast. I stopped watching that show a long time ago because the weight loss program they gave contestants seemed very unhealthy. They ate BS carbs and did endless hrs of cardio in one day! That’s not needed to lose weight. You will get better results lifting weights. No way I would train with any of those biggest loser trainers.
Agree do that with a low carb/keto based diet and you'll never gain it back or be hungry again.
No the key isn’t fasting or keto or paleo or the carnivore diet. It’s calories in vs calories out. Plain and simple and that’s baked by actual science.
Travis Williams CZcams dr Jason Fung. It’s not about calories in vs out. You can lose weight lowering your calories drastically but you will mess up your metabolism. Fasting has now been proven better for weight loss.
iSweatGlitter established know science states calories in vs calories out. It’s proven science.
FYI if you don’t eat for extended period of time, especially days you are drastically reducing your calories. Use your head!
Travis Williams it’s not about just calories in vs calories out. If you’ve ever been fat and tried to cut on 1200 calories a day it’s damn near impossible and you will not have consistency with weight loss but keep thinking it’s just calories in vs out and continue the bro science so you can’t help people actually lose weight smh.
its sad that industry used these people and their bad decisions to make money
The industries will always do that.
Why am I watching these type of videos when I cant even put on a pound LMAO
Key phrase here: "Can't eat like a normal person". Exactly. You can't go back to eating cheese burgers daily like some of these contestants most likely did before they went on the show. I'm not blaming them. Those trainers probably didn't emphasize that to them when they went back to the real world. I went from 220lbs in 2009 to 155lbs in 2019 and have kept it off successfully. You always have to be mindful of your diet and your workouts. It never ends. And i'm completely fine with that!
O.M.A.D....!!!!!
Without struggle. No calorie counting. Almost no hunger. No headaches. More energy, more testosterone, more hgh.
Yep
I'm sorry but 1400 calories is not that low! If you eat 3 meals per day it means that you can have more than 400 calories per meal!! It's fine!!!
ANNA ROSE: I agree. It's not that low. You can work around your totals and plan treats and cheat meals and it is possible. I'm losing weight at about 1600 a day now, down from 1700-1800 five months ago, and I KNOW as I get lower I'll have to cut more. At some point, it'll have to be closer to 1200 and that IS starting to get a little tight. Truth is, we're used to eating a LOT of food these days. FAR more than our ancestors ate, and with far less physical labor involved, too. When you worked dawn to dusk every day outside, in all weather, to grow your own food, care for animals, maintain a home and a farm and everything, it was a far harder life. It's so easy today to get fat! We have all the food we could ever possibly eat, and so little actual WORK. Half an hour exercise hardly compares to a full day's farming! 1400 today, 466 calories a meal, is reasonable enough! Better yet, go down to two meals a day and eat 700 calories each. Then don't snack. It all evens out, it really does.
ANNA ROSE. 1500 calories (or less) per day is considered to be starvation for an adult.
Ursa Magick: respectfully, 1500 calories or fewer a day is not starvation level for someone who is gaining weight at that calorie level! Anything under 1200 calories is getting "too low" for normal-height adults; 1400-1500 calories is still reasonable. Anna Rose is right, it's not that low. It is fine, if you don't expect to make food a primary recreation. Below 1200 calories, people become depressed because that really is getting too low. "Starvation" level would be somewhat individualized, as are all calorie counts. If the woman in the video gains weight on more than 1400 calories a day, then 1400 is not starvation level for her, it's maintenance level.
In the Nazi concentration camps, the prisoners were getting something like 600-800 calories a day, cabbage water or potato water and bread. That was starvation level, both in calories and nutrition.
Jillian Smith this is a great tip. What I find is that, combining a calorie deficit with intermittent fasting, I can eat fewer meals that leave me feeling fuller. I usually eat my first meal at 12:00 pm, have a small snack at around 3:00pm and then dinner at 7:00 or 7:30. I am down 30 pounds in 3 months and dropping fast. It is also important to keep in mind that not all calories are created equal when it comes to "feeling full." You will feel a lot fuller after eating a salad loaded with bell peppers, cucumbers and pine nuts with a 5oz portion of salmon than you will after getting the same number of calories from 4 bites of cheesecake.
Connman 8d: that's true. Calorie dense foods mean you get a lot less bulk. I've read enough about the two meals a day with consequent longer intermittent fasting to think I may try it. Good for you, great progress! Sounds like you have a good plan going there.
Is you crash diet you HAVE to reverse diet right after and ONLY then will you fix your metabolism
Rene Contreras Jr that doesn’t explain the millions of anorexics, like myself, who were seriously underweight and undereating for years, and who now eat normally and weigh a healthy amount. My metabolism did not “break” due to starving...such a myth. I didn’t even exercise all that much and I still don’t. Yet I am normal and eat normally.
This is so much more complex than the story indicates. Their bodies thought they were starving to death. The rapid weight loss triggers the metabolism to slow to prevent starvation. Slow & steady wins the race. Obviously, more research is needed, but understanding the body's ability to self preserve is key to understanding why this occurs.
Calorie restriction slows metabolism.... Try fasting instead
Are you serious right now 😂😂 Re-read your own statement a few times.
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Love love love fasting lol look up cole Robertson the snake diet he is a bit rough but he is so great I’ve lost 20 lbs now I live a fasting focused life style
… not eating is restricting your calories … wow.
Portia Emery he is a clown that doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground.
Get in ketosis! your body will keep shedding weight without you even lifting a finger at the gym! Ketosis target the hormones not calories alone thus it doesn't slow metabolism.
Tarek Demachkie except the fact it’s terrible for your body, unrealistic long term, not necessary, the majority of lost weight is just water weight, and is terrible for 99% of the population
This is all misconceptions and wrong information. I'm at 45 lbs down of real body fat and I'm building muscles. the first 2 weeks of weight loss are water weight but then you start burning fat. Lets talk about facts, this is 6 studies on the long term effect of keto
1- www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2716748/
2- link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs11010-005-9001-x
3- www.nutritionjrnl.com/article/S0899-9007%2814%2900044-6/abstract
4- healthimpactnews.com/2017/study-long-term-high-fat-ketogenic-diet-is-healthy-and-safe/
5- newatlas.com/low-carb-ketogenic-diet-lifespan-memory-study/51215/
6- www.researchgate.net/publication/7129732_Long_Term_Effects_of_Ketogenic_Diet_in_Obese_Subjects_with_High_Cholesterol_Level
Tarek Demachkie absolutely right
Keto is working for me
2299mikey you’re absolutely wrong 😂
Sarah Matthews yes the standard American diet sucks but the Keto diet is still not good for you. Just cause a dude trying to sell you something stalks about some studies from the 60s doesn’t mean he’s right
People should never diet. You should portion control and exercise. Read labels. I started putting on some weight, I had started eating these awesome muffins for breakfast at work. When I looked at the label I was shocked. 300 calories per serving, one muffin was 3 servings. I was eating the whole muffin. After that I started reading all the labels. You’ll be surprised how many things you will put back on the shelf.
One word...KETO!
Got funk? Was just thinking this. Because keto doesn’t slow the metabolism, I eat as much as I always have & I don’t gain weight back.
I challenge anyone that ever struggled on a conventional “diet” to try KETO or at least a LCHF lifestyle for 3 months.
What is there to lose? Besides the weight...
Clean keto can be maintained for life, when you restrict the good foods people love to eat, they are bound for failure.
Keto is amazing
No.
"When I went back to eating the foods I had before I lost all the weight, I got fat!" NO SHIT SHERLOCK. I've dropped 50 pounds and I HAVEN'T gone back to eating fattening foods.
Kyle Mikesell except they didn't go back to eating fattening foods??? The man their interviewing eats 2100 cal a day and that just maintains his overweight frame.
Metabolism is not a set thing. If someone eats high protein, moderate fat and low carb, with the majority of carbs from cruciferous vegetables, works out with weights it'll rocket, and eating that way means you get more bang for your buck calorie wise.
1400 kcal is not that little though. I’ve been bedridden due to severe illness since 2014. I can max have 1200 kcal without gaining. My BMI has been between 20-23 the last four years. And I lost over 40 pounds just by lowering the calorie intake - and I never starved.
Muscle burns calories. Build muscle to raise your metabolism.
@River Dawn it's a lot more complicated than that, you need to know your base metabolic rate (bmr) the recommended calories based on that and what food provides the required calories to maintain weight, burn fat and gain muscle it's not as simple as "lose fat weight gain muscle weight" everyone has a bmr that varies even if their weight height and waist size are the same
There are dozens (probably hundreds) of tools and info online. I found out all that info on my own, and I'm sure a doctor could also provide it. If you want to make the change, the tools are out there.
Yup! Lift! 🏋️
Leslie Ivarson: YES! I actually seem to HAVE muscles in my biceps now...up in 5 months from 1 pound to 9 (drop sets, no less). I know it's minimal...but it's all mine, and I did it myself the natural way. LIFT!
They were lifting weights and doing cardio...which is scary
Sorry but if you can´t feel full on 1400 calories a day, it means you don´t eat enough nutrient dense foods. Not only she won´t feel full but will be lacking nutrients.
So nutrient free foods have to go.
A kilo of cucumber (around two and a half big ones) has only 150cals.
For the same amount, you can have just 100g of cooked pastas which is just 42-43 g of dry pasta (an average package being 500g, you already see how less it is).
The most important thing is to learn to make low calories but delicious meals.
Make ice cream out of just a frozen banana with (sugar free) cacao or vanilla or whatever taste you want, tastes delicious and has only around 89 cals per 100g (plus a little if cacao is added...
So a three banana ice will be maximum 300 calories and it´s like a full bowl of it.
Use zucchini instead of pasta , cauliflower instead or rice (plus, it´s better to keep carbs and fats separated, so it´s a win win).
Also intermittent fasting will help.
If you´re eating only one meal or two meals a day, suddenly, 1300-1400 calories looks like a lot more.
You could eat a fruit meal first for 600-800 calories and be full, then do your dinner with no carbs and protein and fat for 600-800 calories (whatever meal you want to be bigger) and be totally satisfied.
For each meal you love, there is a low calories, delicious version to be made, vegan or none vegan.
the faster you lost the weight, the faster you gain the weight
Anybody else thinking KETO ?
Thank goodness someone is talking sense!
I feel like this happened to me on Herbalife I lost 50 lbs it came back I work out I'm vegetarian. I eat less than I ever have and I stay the same 😒 I didn't want to take shakes forever
you will always have to eat the calorie amount for whatever weight that you change that's why when she said she can only eat 1400 calories what do you think of course you can't go back to eating 10000 calories a day and stay at your weight of 160 pounds for 1400 calories there are lots of foods you can eat and feel full
absolutely agree! I'm loosing weight I eat 1100-1200 calories a day mostly proteins an vegetables and I feel full. When you have a 150 -200 g steak - you don't wanna eat for several hours.
I was sympathetic until I heard her say that 1400 calories is nothing. 1400 calories is not nothing, it just depends on what you eat. Low carb, high protein diets will leave you feeling full. There are plenty of delicious foods and recipes that will leave you at or under that calorie limit. If you eat highly processed crap instead of clean, whole foods, of course you'll feel famished eating only 1400 cal a day.
Wolf Cola beaf steak=200kc. 1400/200=700g of meat
For real. Just to picture 1400 cals it's like eating 8 apples a day. Hardly starving. Eating the right stuff will keep you full at that many cals
Elle Randazzo Only it's not? Use a calorie calculator and learn something.
If you look at the Minnesota starvation experiment and patients recovering from anorexia you do see them overshooting their original weight after the restriction ended. Yes that can be contributed to a slowed metabolism but it’s most likely due to the binge eating patterns that occur after extreme restriction. The show simulated an eating disorder
NO. This show did not simulate an eating disorder. The regime they were submitted to on the show was designed for very fast weight loss. The show lasted 5 months, so they needed to lose the weight in that time frame. An eating disorder is something completely different. Contestants drifting into an eating disorder during or after a show is another story. These people were obese. Its not the same thing to lose 20 or 30 vanity pounds than it is to lose over 100 pounds. Having said that I am curious about that lady who says she has to starve to keep the weight off. I wonder what her concept of starvation is. America has an obesity problem.
I live in France, but when I go to America at a restaurant and I order a salad as an appetizer, that salad is enough to feed two or three people. The "Entree" will feed about 6 people. If one person is eating meals like that every day three or four times a day just do that math on the caloric intake and see why the whole country is overweight.
Obviously their metabolic rate has decreased though? the smaller you are, the slower your metabolism
This is what I was thinking too. But dude was talking about he has to eat 800 kcals less than other men his size to maintain his weight. So I guess they meant their metabolisms are low even for their new body sizes.
Wow, everyone here doesn't realize that these guys aren't your usual fat loss subjects. They were going on a daily super huge caloric deficit. Cahill was targetting a 3500 calorie deficit..... Do u know that even if a refular person doesn't eat, he won't be able to reach that? He'd have to spend another 4 hours extra walking in the treadmill.
So if they do gain all the weight back, does their metabolism also go back to what it was? In that case, they get a second chance to lose weight the right way.
+TheBooban We dont really know. There are some people that talk about 'metabolic damage' on youtube which is relevant to your question. But all in all, this is somewhat new information.
TheBooban The question I ask myself is if the metabolism slows down as well if you are losing weight slowly and steadily, like I do right now...
+schneeroseful Exactly, the "experts" don't really answer that question. They just say that fast weight loss is terrible. All that I have read about slow weight loss is that it is merely an assumption that it is better. It may also be that metabolism readjusts over time, not how fast or how slow the weight loss is. But as Jonathan said, this is "new" research. btw, I find that rapid weight loss is easier psychologically. Slow weight loss is torturious.
I already have a metabolic diverse that slows down my metabolism so I need to be extra careful.
I do not feel hungry or tortured by making small steps.
7:29 Okay Nightline... Snuck a flex in there. I see you😂😂
Caloric deficit diet with frequent eating time and exercise is not sustainable because it is dropping your base metabolic rate. The better diet is intermittent fasting.
But it is literally dieting. You're starving your body for 16 hours.
I wonder if part of it is because they lost so much weight in a short period of time and that ruined their metabolism. But part of it might be because of what they are eating.
Go Keto, fasting and Intermittent fasting... they work!!! Absolutely!!
That’s why you have to eat less(to your portion) and exercise regularly.
You can’t expect to eat the same way that you used to after losing so much weight.
Most of these people went back to their regular lives of lattes donuts and cake which is something their not going to share with you LOL
Eat keto! I eat 1100-1300 calories a day. I'm full
E Roll Truth! No hunger, no cravings, Keto rocks!
E Roll what do you eat on Keto diet?
Bree James the short answer is healthy fat
@@breejames6323 look up Ken berry onCZcams, he's very knowledgeable. Hope it works for you
Cool 😎 thanks guys 👍🏻
So whats the problem? You weigh less so you need less calories to maintain. They still have the eating problem.
akowned1 They burn less calories than people who have always been thin. Danny burns 800 calories less than the normal man his size.
This is a psychological problem, not metabolism...people need to change their mindset about food and health.
This is literally common sense, shows the exact type of excuses and psychology that made him 430 in the first place. Sounds like he doesn’t understand what he’s doing at all
I have lost 220 on 2 years. Over 150 in a year. I have been reading up on metabolism studies. Yes, your metabolism does slow down. What they so not talk about, is that your muscles become more efficient in burning calories as well. Most people who lose weight will have to eat 20-30% less, or exercise that much more to keep the weight off. As far as there metabolism continuing to slide, this is the only study that shows that. From what I have read, there have been some questions about the rmr equations they used pre and post weight loss. I know, that I have to eat about 500 calories a day less than someone my size and physical activity level at this time. I am still in recovery after all the weight loss. Look up Dr. Rudy lebeil. He has done many studies on people who lose weight. Also people on the national weight control registry. Wish me luck to keep it off long term. To all who are trying to lose or maintain, best of luck.
Keto for 1 year, no desire to ever go back. 70 lbs off for good.
Not sustainable for everyone
Bullshit. I was 230 lb now 130 and I'll be DAMNED if I ever see 131 lb on the scale
Why are people expecting to lose weight without cutting calories/eliminating certain foods and not exercise?
Lost the weight too fast. It should have been something that takes years and a slow loss that way you don't mess your metabolism. Under 50lbs loss, it may not make much a difference if you lose it a little fast but the moment your hitting triple digit it matters a lot. This is from someone who has lost as much as the greatest loser contestants. I lose 305lbs but it was 3-year process. One pound or two a week.
Well done!!!
Did you still keep it off ?
@@cinthssucession The be honest I keep most of it off but I won't lie I had put on 25lbs do to stress, going back to school, new job, covid shut down. I just starting to get back on the saddle as they say. Looking to lose into 20 pound increments . I was almost 610lbs when I started. I'm getting older as well and energy is getting harder to get when you factor everything I'm doing now. I did not have a crazy diet most of the time either losing weight or gaining weight. The factor for me was stress, energy and activity.
@@shojingod that’s still really good most people want to lose hundreds of pounds in months and then they gain it back with more.
Well, these people could always pack on muscle 🤷🏾♂️ if your body wants to add the weight back on, why not let it be good weight. Plus, adding muscle mass gives your body an excuse to need to consume more calories. It’s win win
I can really relate to everything that these people on the show are talking about, ive struggled with my weight my entire life being ridiculed by my own parents even, ill never forget when my mom told me "oh your dad and i thought you were gonna grow up to be a skinny little thing! But nope guess not." It really hurts and its very hard for a person that has been overweight their entire life to restrict themselves so much its not an excuse but it really does take a toll on your mental health. It is very much like being an alcoholic or a drug addict, you will always have triggers and every day is a struggle.
You mean, if you go back to the same lifestyle as before, and don’t work on maintaining what you have achieved, the weight will come back? Shocker
They need to go keto, that's why.
No carbs guys. Sorry but it's biology.
Amen, keto Power. i've killed my diabetes and put my IBSD hypertension and asthma in hospice care. this is like a war and I'M GOING TO WIN! even my congenital dyserythropoeitic anemia has taken a hit from all the vitamins i take in now. lots of b vitamins from all the meat and fish, vitamin c magnesium and other vitamins and minerals from the green veggies i eat, potassium in the avocados
@@lizwiggins5788 Dont you feel you've been lied to your entire life about eating????? I wish I had known all of this 30 years ago. My entire body has changed since I have gone Keto, and I'm not talking just about weight management I was always in shape but it was really really difficult to maintain. The hardest thing I had to learn to deal with was that everything in moderation is a lie. There are many things that are "never evers".
And " eating little and often" was sabotaging my weight.
@@mbear1639 I HAVE been lied to my whole life about nutrition, I just turned 33 in the last couple weeks, i didn't learn about keto til i was 31. now i'm stuck playing catch up, and so is everyone else my age, and anyone older has been lied to for even longer, unless they're about 75 and up. the ADA and AHA didn't start til the 50's
@@lizwiggins5788 I'm 53. Born and raused in Ohio (but lived 14 yrs outside the US) and I can say, FROM EXPERIENCE, our diet is absolutely killing is and just horrible. Im not "anti big business" but what they have done to our food supply is nothing short of criminal.
@@mbear1639 Definitely
I think it's amazing that even when given some scientific evidence that weight loss goes beyond eat less workout people still fall back on "well that fatty shouldn't eat donuts duh" is ridiculous.
lillian girvin And yet...I have never known a fat person who didn’t eat too much. Plenty say they eat like birds, but when I am around them they eat a LOT. Not being mean, just my observation. Similarly, people who are thin and say they eat a lot really don’t eat a lot. I think people define “a lot” of food quite differently.
Lol donuts will not help you lose weight under any diet. Carbs and sugars cut is a must. Keto diet with intermittent fasting increases your metabolism.
Biplav Shrestha none claims they do. But the point still stands
I became obese in my teens. My family was homeless, and we ate whatever the homeless shelters gave us. Which was usually bread, pasta, and canned food. It made me feel sick, tired, and have migraines. I couldn't concentrate at school. I left school early, and got odd jobs. I was able to buy apples, and oranges. They made me feel good. But I still couldn't lose weight. A famous martial arts instructor decided to teach me martial arts for free if I maintained his gym. I stopped eating food from homeless shelters. I only ate two cheap fruits or carrots per day. Sometimes nothing at all. I exercised 4-6hrs per day for 3yrs. I became anorexic, because only beautiful skinny women get jobs in which they face customers. I noticed that when applying for jobs.
One day I injured my foot, and knee badly. I couldn't exercise. I couldn't buy my own food for 2months. My family brought me canned food, and bread. Within a week I was putting on lots of weight. So much weight that I had to go back to hospital to get a new cast on my leg. After 2 months I was back to my obese size plus a little extra. I felt like the past 3yrs was a waste of time.
Today I'm having trouble losing weight. I do plenty of exercise, because I can't afford a car. I walk 40min to shops, and 40min back with heavy items. I also do heavy labor intensive jobs daily. I don't buy junk food. I only eat junk food from homeless shelters when I can't afford food. Homeless shelters in my area never have fresh fruit, vegetables, and meat.
I also have PCOS that interferes with losing weight. But PCOS doesn't prevent weight lose. It makes it harder.
I don't drink, smoke or do any drugs.
What I want to know is : would their metabolism have also slowed down if they had lost the weight gradually ?
If the answer is yes, then the show is not the problem, even though I realise that the fat shaming of former biggest loser contestants is awful and has to stop.
more fiber! not only does it keep you fuller, but it helps you poop.
TRY KETO, you all can make it.
I know they will be full longer eat broccoli and cauliflower. I would like to see them eat a 12 oz ribeye with six cups of veggies and not be full. Actually these people would have been better off with the snake diet or just fasting with supplements in general. Eating five hundred calories then burning five thousand makes no sense. You lose way less muscle when fasting too.
Keto/IF 19:5 ratio ideal for life long weight loss and looking healthy
Go away.
Yup go keto!!
On a low calorie diet the metabolism slows down because it doesn't need to be that fast. You barely have anything to metabolize since you're eating so little. So if you do intermittent fasting or Keto, since you are allowed to eat more food, your metabolism can actually SPEED UP! Your metabolism doesn't just slow down for the rest of your life just because you lose weight, it can recover if you diet correctly. I am speaking out of experience, cutting carbs and fasting brought me down to single digit body fat in 2013 and I never gained the weight back and exercise isn't even needed, I did it with diet alone
The failure of the contestants to keep their weight off proves that we have a very immoral society that craves the unsustainable. This also proves that the contestants 9 out of 10 times were either taking drugs or doing things that were very dangerous to get big numbers and percentages.
They need to take responsibility for their own weight.
Are these people doing anything throughout the day?! These woman says in order to maintain needs to eat less than 1400 KCal a day - that's BS, you would burn that even laying down. They are misinterpreting this study somehow, or they aren't truthful about what they eat or they don't do shit whole day. I bet my life that that woman can eat 2000 kCal a day, nice balanced calories/nutrients, with moderate activity and won't gain a single gram of body weight. But don't give me this BS, you tried it for 5 days and the scale show a number and you give up, give me a year of this average and then say it doesn't work. I call this BS, because i know about calories and PHYSICS and these people are playing mental gymnastics and aren't fully truthful about what they are saying. They are all in serious overeating mode, it's not that their metabolism is slow.
These people used to workout 7 hours a day and they didn't go to work and they had a nutritionist on-site they had to go back into the real world where they work 9 to 5 job took care of their kids so when would there have been time to maintain that weight that they lost on The Biggest Loser
So basically they are saying, these people worked there ass off to lose weight, and then, when the show is over, they disnt know they had to continue to work their ass off? Seems like they gave up.
.....I'm not so sure about this. A heavier person burns more resting calories (moving or resting) than a smaller person ,so losing the weight means you need less calories. If they are still eating a heavier person's diet then it makes sense that they gained their weight back. What am I missing here?
This is depressing
I’ve never been morbidly obese and I’ve always had to eat 1,400 calories a day to maintain my weight. I think some of these people are confused about what the “normal” person eats in a day.
This is very simple... THEY OVER ATE!!!!!!!. If you eat more calories than what your weight requires than your weight goes up. Metabolism plays a part in the burning of those calories but it is still your job to keep within your daily caloric budget provided by a weight chart. If you notice that you continue to either gain weight or lose weight than you adjust your budget accordingly.
Lots of excuses, Pass the donuts, GO KETO and you don't have to count calories!
James Woods this is an extremely ignorant comment
All excuses you don't gain weight by eating nothing. My point count calories and portion control. add exercise and it is easy to do. I lost 75 lbs 6 years ago and easily keep it off.
I was always under the impression that our metabolism slowed down as we age anyway, making it harder to maintain your weight, I am 52 and I have never been overweight and I have never been to a gym or been on a weight loss diet, I do eat a lot of bread and way too much cheese and chocolate, and I spend my days in front of a computer screen and have played sport (squash) twice a week for over 30 years, I weigh 146 lbs at 5ft 10", some people may say that I am just lucky and that genetics has a lot to do with it, yet both my mother and my sister are/were obese , the only difference in our lifestyles is they didn't play any sport and they eat meat. I have been a vegetarian for the last 45 years, you do the math.
Living Well With TJ Vegetarians eat cheese. Vegans don't.
Rather go keto
I sadly have the opposite. I have to eat a lot to keep weight on. Especially if I am eating healthy, then I have to eat all day long. After giving birth to 9 children, and being 38 years old, I still have to take a weight gainer shake every morning. I think the struggle goes both ways. But people skinny shame and think it's okay. It is never okay to shame anyone, ever.
Dr. Jason Fung Fasting can correct the broken metabolism and change the bodies set weight.
Being “Full” is all in your mind. Eat healthy and workout plain and simple. Follow one of these people everyday to see what they do I guarantee they aren’t doing what’s right to stay in shape
The problem is American food is ladled with obscene chemicals and calories..i.e liquid cheese thats poured over everything...strange processed foods...1400 is very possible if you do it right...high fiber...pulses, meats..
At the end of the day it's about discipline. Fat loss isn't brain surgery. Will power is the hard part. We eat too much 24/7.
I wanna know how much junk food or exercise they are putting in after the show
Look, I am not one to judge but 1,400 or 1,500 is actually enough - if you eat high fiber, high nutrient, high protein things. I do that now, and there are days I eat less than that. Paleo diet is pretty damn filling for one. My guess is, no one was taught nutrition.
Some of these folks are making their excuses for failing to keep the weight off long term.
1400 cal. thats plenty!
WTF- 1400 calories is heaps. I ate 1371 calories today and reached 88% of my nutrition targets, although my calcium and potassium were pretty low sadly. Anyway, I pretty much feel like I just ate all day- it was one of those days. If she thinks that 1400 calories is nothing- no wonder these people get fat.
eat 3 meals a day no snacks do light exercise and enjoy life
Who’s eating donuts while watching this🤤
I'm throwing this out as a grossly obese person who has lost a hundred pounds and who and not gained it back but still needs to lose another 80. Why is it that the Holocaust people who came out of the camps just grossly thin I mean just skin and bones why didn't their metabolism stay broken for their whole life? I think it's worth pondering. If I had my own thoughts on it I would say that the ones of us that are fat are addicted to food all those chemicals they put in the food to make food palatable to us we are addicted to it.
I do keto with intermittent fasting and I don't find it remotely difficult to stay under 1400 calories a day. And I have enough energy to do intense physical training 2-3 times a week. Change your fuel source, folks. (PS- that Roth guy eating his pineapple salad really grinds my gears.)