Shotgun Mic Comparison - Sennheiser MKE600 vs. MKE440
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- čas přidán 9. 03. 2018
- Although they'll likely be used for different purposes, just how do the MKE600 and MKE440 compare in build, design and sound quality? Check this out and see for yourself.
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You deserve a lot more views for the quality of your videos. Professional level.
Thanks so much! I really appreciate that :-D
@@ScottDumas How much self noise does the 440 have? my biggest pet peeve with mics
Very helpful video. Always appreciate hearing examples of audio into recorders and straight into camera. Also the fact that you tested the mic's own preamps vs the recorder's 💚
Thank you for taking the time to compare both pics. It was helpful for me.
Thank you for watching! :)
Amazing comparison! Thanks Scott. I think I know what I want to buy now.
A great review. Just what I was looking for! Very professional and informative. Thank you!
Good video, surprisingly enough I find that the 440 seperates the voice from the background sound almost as well as the 600 does, and that one is pretty good at it. Plus, the noise from the highway kinda sounds more interesting when its in stereo. Both sound much better without the hpf on, and it doesnt help much with the street noise when its on anyway. I guess its more usefull for sounds with much lower frequenzies, like wind.
Thanks so much! Yeah- it's still a super-cardioid pickup pattern so has decent off axis rejection, but will record what's in the frame in stereo giving a really cool "feel" to the audio. Also, the filter definitely is more of a help with wind noise than car noises :)
I have the 600 but am looking at picking up the 440, at any rate while searching I found your channel. You seriously got it going on with your videos...Subscribed!
Thanks so much for watching and subscribing! I really appreciate it :) If you love the 600 already I think the 440 will make you very happy :) Thanks again!
Excellent review. This was very interesting and helpful. Thank you so much.
Thanks so much! Appreciate it :)
New sub. You deserve many more for these excellent comparisons!
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that!! :-D I hope you'll continue to enjoy the content! :)
Great comparison! The 440 sounds good for travel vlogs when you want the audience to hear the background as well as hearing the narration. The 600 definitely is better if you want the audience to hear you more and cut out the background. Both great mics, imagine if there was a 640! Great review
Great comparison Scott, well done.
Thanks so much! :)
MKE 600 I think is better for my needs. I make short films and I like how the MKE 600 can minimize surrounding sounds and focus on dialog.
For sure :) Both definitely have their place and I love the 600 myself :-D
Leaning towards the 440. I want to film live shows, so the stereo will be a huge plus. Also, I thought the 440 sounded a bit bassier.
Dear Scott, nice works! which one would you recommend for product unboxing videos and interviews? or would you recommend a better microphone?
It seems to me that the 600 did a better job of reducing traffic noise with High Pass filter than the 440 with the filter. Thanks for the vid. I'm considering getting one for Voice Over and Podcasting
My pleasure! The 600 definitely seems to block out more extraneous noise overall, really a great mic. :)
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Haha, appreciate it! :)
Using my Kanto YU2 I found that the 600 has less echo. More sound separation from background sound floor indoors.
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Thank you! Appreciate it :)
Maybe I don't know what I am talking about, but dual MKE440 could in theory work as a makeshift surround/quadrophonic sound setup right, the camera I own has quad channel audio input so that got me thinking
The MKE600 into the ZoomH4N is EXACTLY the setup I am building towards right now. I have the Zoom H4N but I can't deside between the Senheiser MKH416 which is an industry standard, or the MKE600 which is a lot cheaper and more in my price range. I'm thinking of getting the MKE600 first with all of the accesories and upgrading to the MKH416 when my budget gets bigger. What do you think?
Hey thanks for watching. I think starting out with what you can afford now is probably a good choice. I don't think the MKE600 will disappoint you and like you said you can always upgrade when the budget allows, then the MKE600 will make a really solid second/backup mic to the MKH416 when you can afford it :)
The biggest difference can be heard in the connection method. Recorders or directly the camera.
How would you compare the sensitivity of the MKE 600 vs +20dB of MKE 440 ? I love the sound of the MKE 600 but would like to have the +20dB option of the MKE 440 for some far away shots. If you feel that the sensitivity of MKE440 +20dB is same as MKE600 then it would be a no-brainer for me.. Your thoughts ?
In all honesty I wouldn't rely on the +20dB setting for far away shots... not because it won't pick up the sound, but because it'll probably sound terrible. It'll be picking up all the noises in between and around the mic and your voice more than your voice itself, and it won't sound much better than the camera's built in mic at that point. The +20dB is very useful for low sounds that are close enough to the mic though, or as a way to lower the gain on your camera or recorder for cleaner sound if the preamps aren't that good. I know that wasn't exactly the answer you were looking for, but I hope it helps. If you need to record a sound further away from the source, either mic with a portable recorder close by, or a wireless mic (either a wireless Tx for the shotgun or a wireless lavilier) would be much much better.
I got to say the 440 sounds better to me, the stereo effect somehow sounds sharper for some reason or in hi-fi terms may be a tad brighter. The other thing is I also like the +20 db function which could be very useful if the subject is farther away.
So, my question is as follows. I like to shoot birds, mostly stills, but I would like to become more of a hybrid shooter by incorporating some videos. A typical situation would be pointing at a bird with a super telephoto zoom on a tripod, the bird could be 30-50+ft away, perched on a branch. The good news is usually there won't be too much ambient noise such as traffic and so on. So, in such situations, would it be better to point the MKE 600 directly at the bird or using the stereo pick-up of the MKE 440? My key concern is the MKE 600 while good seems to lack a little sensitivity plus as mentioned before the MKE 440 has the +20 db function which could come into good use when the bird is this far away.
Which mic would you recommend, Scott?
Thanks for watching!
I'm honestly not super experienced in situations like that and so not sure 100% of what you'd hope for results but in either case, an on camera mic will pick up a lot of the surrounding noise no matter how quiet it is when you're trying to get noises from a subject that far away. Using the +20dB function would not only hone in on the noise you want, but also boost all the unwanted noise at the same time. For that reason, I would imagine the MKE440 picking up general ambiance of the environment at a reasonable level including the noises of the birds mixed in would be the most natural sounding result. Other than that, I'd imagine some more specialized gear would be necessary for capturing more natural sounds, or at the very least an off camera microphone closer to the source.
I hope that helps!
@@ScottDumas Thanks for the reply! I understand the professional way of doing it would be to use parabolic mics, but that's not what I am after, I just want to use a plugged in mic on my DSLR and that's it. I simply want to capture the chirping of the bird as I zoom in, just very short one-off clips if you will without doing any post-editing on video nor audio. I am in the process of doing more research. Let me show you a clip of what I am after in the clip/link below, this guy just used a Rode VideoMicro, but he did do post work and laid on a soundtrack too. If is between the Sennheiser MKE 440 and 600, would you go with the stereo pick-up of the 440 or go for more directivity of the 600? czcams.com/video/VDqFNu-uV_U/video.html
@@Rascallucci Wow, beautiful video. It's amazing if that audio really is captured with the video micro! Between the two, I think I'd still go for the 440... I think it's really made especially for cases like this, and would give a more immersive soundscape, but I don't think it looses out too much on directionality. Hard to say for sure without trying it, but that would be my best guess :)
@@ScottDumas The story deepens, I was just going to pull the pin on the 440, then I discovered Sound Shark actually has a parabolic mic that can be plugged in onto the cold shoe of the DSLR. I thought all parabolic mics were huge and only used by professionals in sports events and so on. I will show you what I am talking about with the link below. I don't know whether I am being cynical, but to me it is a simple plastic dish (which doesn't cost much) that is doing all the work while the lav mic is kind of cheap and flimsy. This particular reviewer tested it against the Azden and the difference was huge. I don't know, comparing it to the 440, the Sennheiser seems to be of much higher quality overall. What do you think? czcams.com/video/QYnMidUIQlg/video.html
@@RascallucciWhat microphone did you get please at the end? MKE 600 or MKE 440? Thanks!
Excellent test, the MKE600 seems to have much less noise than the MKE440 and I'm so happy I got it. I would be so stupid if I got a Rode NTG4+ because the MKE600 sounds sooo good. The MKE440 has it's place but if there's only one person speaking in front of the camera then the MKE600 wins hands down. Clearer sound that is more'''''near".
I agree- the MKE600 sounds incredible, especially for the price. For a compact on camera mic for a DSLR, especially at relatively close range I do like the MKE440 a little more than the Rode VMP+ though to be honest. The MKE600 also beats out the NTG4+ for me, it has a little bit of a "crisper" sound. I have the NTG3 as well, which is much more expensive, but I find myself using the MKE600 quite a lot still. A really wonderful mic!
I have a question: Should I upgrade to a Zoom H5 if I already have th Zoom H1? Right now, I use a 3.5mm to XLR adapter and it seems to work pretty well, but what do you think? Is the money worth it or should I invest on something else?
It's a hard choice and I think it would depend on what else you need/could get with that money. Having an XLR ready recorder does definitely help as do all the additional controls etc. The sound quality will improve a bit from a combination of the H5 being better and an XLR cable possibly stepping up the audio as well. The other benefit of using XLRs with the H5 is that you'd be able to run the XLR long distances much more easily without losing quality.
For the money though, the H1 is great and if it's working for you and your needs then it's likely enough. But, if you want a step up in quality and usability the H5 would be a great choice.
Thanks for your advice! I just bought the Zoom H5 and tried it out. The preamp noise is very similar to the Zoom H1, but you can set the gain higher on the H5. It is a really hard choice, because the H5 is so much friendlier to operate and I can also use it as a audio interface to monitor audio. My desktop PC has pretty crappy audio when I connect my headphones directly to it for some reason, so the H5 really helps and makes a soundcard unneccesary. At the end though, I don't think it will add any production quality to my work. I propably won't need the extra gain of the H5 becuase the excellent Sennheiser MKE600 is sensitive enough. I tried plugging in the Rode NTG4 plus to the H1 when shopping for a shotgun mic and it definitely needed more gain. The Zoom H5 will be A LOT more enjoyable to use but I think I will return it and save up for a camera slider :)
Sounds like a very logical choice! :) Sliders are lots of fun :-P
My pick , MKE 600 ( have 2 now )
Which microphone do you use at start video default?
The very beginning is the MKE, and then the b-roll voiceover parts are with the Rode NT1A... I think, haha.
3 batteries? they might as well make it 4 or stick with only 2
Is mke 600 better than rode ntg4+
hard to say better or worse, maybe a matter of taste. I do find that the MKE has more of a "crisp" sound and I like it without any EQ better than the ntg4+ but overall they're fairly similar. The NTG4+ will switch to battery mode when phantom power is turned off though so it's easy to forget and drain your battery. The MKE on the other hand, uses a physical switch, not button, for battery power but will have a status light for battery power only when first switched on and then nothing, sometimes making me nervous if the batteries are actually dead when they're totally fine.
Which one would you use to film indoor dance competitions/performances such as this: czcams.com/video/G5ervgot15Y/video.html
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Yikes, they both sound harsh..
Generally I would imagine they could both benefit from a little EQ tweaking as these are straight out of the camera as they were recorded (aside from pure level adjustments to get the volume up a bit), and perhaps my voice has some impact as well, I don't have a great sounding voice in general haha.
Scott Dumas you actually have a great broadcast voice, probably better suited to a mic with more of a flat response, or something with less emphasis on the lows. I have the exact opposite problem, my voice is more sibilant, so I’m usually looking for attenuation in the upper frequencies.
Haha, I've never heard that and appreciate it :) What would be your recommendation for my type of voice? Any favorites?
Scott Dumas That would be a hard to determine, listen to some video comparisons of shotgun mics, you can never go wrong with a sen 416, but Rhode ntg3, and deity smic2 (they just updated their smic) might be of interest. Do some recordings in your closet with your clothes since they kill reverb and see if you get any improvement on what you have. Shotgun mics and reverb create a weird warbly sound that isnt very flattering on any voice. I’d take yours over mine any day lol. I use an electrovoice re27 which has 3 levels of attenuation, but that is a dynamic mic and really not something you would use on the fly with your camera. I’m saving for and should be able to order a shoeps CMIT5u, but its a 2200.00 shotgun mic, so its gonna take a few months, but Ill make a vid when I do. Oh, and I think the sanken cs3e would be good and its also pretty good at rejecting ambient noise.. I’m not a professional or anything, so take what I say with a grain, or rather a boulder of salt, a big boulder.. lol
Thanks for the recommendations :) I do have the NTG3 as well, and really like the sound but find it's a bit bassier than the MKE600. I've checked them out in the closet like you said before, but since that's not where I really use them it didn't seem practical. The Sanken cs3e looks quite nice, I'll have to look into it a bit more. I really should sound treat my room better but at the moment that's not really an option so I just kind of roll with what I can. Anyway, thanks for all the input! :)
Why wear that hat?
This one specifically or in general? haha... one, it's chilly even inside my house (I live in the southern area of Japan where they generally don't have a lot of insulation or full heating system, but it's still relatively cold in the winter). Also, I'm balding haha... have a buzz cut under there but hate my hair so I tend to always wear a hat of some sort. :)
Super helpful question here.