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  • čas přidán 18. 05. 2024
  • Sometimes dream cars are actually nightmares.
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  • @jamesweldon8118
    @jamesweldon8118 Před rokem +13065

    You should do one on “boring” cars that are actually fun to drive

    • @wade7959
      @wade7959 Před rokem +187

      100%, buddy!!

    • @lesterdsilva6094
      @lesterdsilva6094 Před rokem +346

      they did, in the past, they made a video on cars that look boring but are actually pretty fun.

    • @vornamenachname727
      @vornamenachname727 Před rokem +102

      Smart forfour (first gen). Only weighs 2000 pounds, very fun engines, the stock suspension is very stiff/sporty, and it has electric power steering which feels extremely responsive and accurate. 10/10 would drive again.

    • @joshsemo4214
      @joshsemo4214 Před rokem +49

      I had.a ford escort wagon 5 speed manual and that thing.was quick as hell... It had a mazda engine in it... It was like driving a go kart.

    • @ikhoonyejelem2967
      @ikhoonyejelem2967 Před rokem +17

      They already did

  • @inFamousAnto
    @inFamousAnto Před rokem +1327

    “we had to call pagani and his son said yea you can drive it we’ll insurance it” is the coolest and hardest line dropped in a donut video

    • @opeindiana8088
      @opeindiana8088 Před rokem +58

      No literally. Imagine you can jus call Pagani 😂

    • @kegfreak3728
      @kegfreak3728 Před rokem +31

      Respect for Pagani for sure!

    • @victornamba9
      @victornamba9 Před rokem +25

      "Hey, is that Horacio?"

    • @alfredsinkllc4870
      @alfredsinkllc4870 Před rokem

      I like hitlers idea for 1 car design that fcking works right and doesnt have bullshit learning games built into it

    • @danny7694
      @danny7694 Před rokem +1

      I would break down in frantic crying seeing that thing in real life. Just WOW

  • @frenchieblack1
    @frenchieblack1 Před rokem +161

    Reaction to the viper was accurate back then. There was one in my neighborhood 30 years ago. All the kids in the neighborhood could hear when he was coming home but he lived like a mile away. We all hopped on our bikes and met him at his house to ask him questions before he went inside. When he moved away, the kid that moved into his house was really popular for reasons, unbeknownst to himself.

    • @Wireball
      @Wireball Před měsícem +1

      One of our friends had a Viper on a small Micronesian island in the early-to-mid-90s. It was strange encountering it picking its way slowly over a very rocky, rutted dirt road once - I was surprised that it made its way in and out. The taxis used to charge double for driving up that road.

  • @1981AdamGs
    @1981AdamGs Před rokem +72

    I've driven a first gen Viper. I used to work at a dealership in the late 90s when I was in high school. The owner of the dealership had a 93 Viper and he let me drive it...with supervision of course. It was absolutely terrifying to drive. Even at low speeds it never felt like I had control of the thing. It just acted like it wanted to kill you.

    • @sss-mk4lx
      @sss-mk4lx Před 9 měsíci +1

      😎 why everyone called the Viper a Beast of all cars, besides cobra 😅

  • @grandmoffporkins
    @grandmoffporkins Před rokem +1877

    Basically you’re telling our inner child how much grief we were spared by not having the dream car. That’s a service. Well done Donut!

    • @pasthuman
      @pasthuman Před rokem +11

      Can't see the forest for the trees sometimes but I think that last car will definitely hold it's value or perhaps even increase with time... because they are hand made those Pagani's I think they're literal rolling works of art. Nail on the head though, a be careful what ya wish for thing or somethin' :)

    • @Rocky-zs1qj
      @Rocky-zs1qj Před rokem +11

      If you think logic and intelligent argument will stop me from wanting these you got another thing coming

    • @angeloah
      @angeloah Před rokem +2

      I don’t know, sometimes it’s worth it if you can afford it. That’s why they are called dream cars, not reliable cost effective cars.

    • @grandmoffporkins
      @grandmoffporkins Před rokem +1

      I think that’s fair Kenny. It’s more a good warning that if you can just barely afford the dream car (then or now used), don’t do it. Make sure you can also afford the aggravation and maintenance.

    • @JohnGalt-vr3lx
      @JohnGalt-vr3lx Před rokem +4

      I owned a viper from 1999 until 2007. I was third owner. I loved that car, wish I hadn't sold it. My car before that was a 1967 mustang and after I sold viper, I got a 1964 mercury with a back window that goes up and down. It's still my daily driver. Lol. The viper was most comfortable car I owned

  • @JacksonMack3742
    @JacksonMack3742 Před rokem +616

    I love how when he says "we had to call Pagani", he's not talking about the company per se, but a family member, an actual Pagani.

    • @yezki8
      @yezki8 Před rokem +49

      When he said Pagani, he meant not a family member, but the actual Horacio Pagani. Thats why he said "his son" insured them

  • @jairusofall
    @jairusofall Před rokem +240

    Having owned a 1st gen viper for a decade and adding almost 50k to the odometer, I can say with certainty that it’s definitely wonderful to own and never stops being fun! Love your vids btw!

    • @coreyaldridge1753
      @coreyaldridge1753 Před rokem +3

      I'm absolutely jealous. That's my dream car. Good for you sir. Glad you had fun. Did you get another sports car after the Viper?

    • @jairusofall
      @jairusofall Před rokem +2

      @@coreyaldridge1753 currently just bikes, an old truck, and the viper.

    • @bluefalconkiller3887
      @bluefalconkiller3887 Před rokem

      What would you say are pros and cons of your viper?

    • @Scooter227
      @Scooter227 Před rokem

      80k for it right now and I’ll pay to ship it. If it has less than 15k miles I’ll go 110k, hmu

    • @bluefalconkiller3887
      @bluefalconkiller3887 Před rokem +1

      @@Scooter227 well damn

  • @stevenhudson6354
    @stevenhudson6354 Před rokem +17

    Success is not built on success. It's built on failure, It's built on fraustration. it's built on fear that you have to overcome. I pray that anyone who reads this will be successful in life

    • @maryperry2460
      @maryperry2460 Před rokem

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      @maryperry2460 Před rokem

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    • @carlgarza556
      @carlgarza556 Před rokem

      And I can even say she is the sincere broker I know....

    • @rebeccagilbert7691
      @rebeccagilbert7691 Před rokem

      ​@@carlgarza556 O' Yes I'm a living testimony of Mrs Victoria Alejandro.!

    • @rebeccagilbert7691
      @rebeccagilbert7691 Před rokem

      Victoria has changed my financial status for the best.!

  • @mannywilliams6409
    @mannywilliams6409 Před rokem +1196

    Someone once described the Viper as a car that seemed like it was trying to kill it's driver.

    • @kiivaskastylings545
      @kiivaskastylings545 Před rokem +60

      Think it was regular car reviews

    • @goaliepro1996
      @goaliepro1996 Před rokem +11

      probably Freddy Tavarish

    • @digitalparadigms
      @digitalparadigms Před rokem +17

      Common in every comment grab-bag.

    • @dajam9035
      @dajam9035 Před rokem +21

      That's because it is. They named it viper....nuff said 😂

    • @clumsygarage1578
      @clumsygarage1578 Před rokem +19

      I watched a period review of the second gen viper, and they showed it on track looking slidey and snappy, and said it was a way more forgiving car than the first gen lol.

  • @Kj16V
    @Kj16V Před rokem +407

    Justin is such a great addition to the team. Everybody has their own individual personality, but the whole team still gels really well together.

    • @rapidoyolo2038
      @rapidoyolo2038 Před rokem +15

      Justin just seems a really honest person to me for some reason

    • @MrGoodboy
      @MrGoodboy Před rokem

      Justin is the most boring donut host ever. He’s not entertaining to watch at all he’s quiet and just stares at the camera he looks super awkward and when he does talk I feel like I want to go to sleep .

    • @loudicecream4636
      @loudicecream4636 Před rokem +5

      Yeah, dude seems so chill. The type of guy you’d love to have a beer with

    • @georgezeilman1433
      @georgezeilman1433 Před rokem +8

      Went to high school with him, can confirm he’s a chill dude. He has an identical twin named James if I’m remembering correctly

    • @neoretrofans6522
      @neoretrofans6522 Před rokem +2

      Yeah, plus he also represents black and darker people (colored people?). Ethinc diverse... Please dont ban me.

  • @prod.byfound5774
    @prod.byfound5774 Před rokem +25

    3:34 this mans reaction to a closely sounding....word....was priceless

  • @iviui2d3i2
    @iviui2d3i2 Před rokem +6

    As a Service Manager at a Goodyear Automotive Center back around 2000-2001 or so, I had to Road Test a 94 Viper after customer bought Rims, Tires, and Alignment. Usually we have easy access in our area to quickly get to the residential streets, the regular traffic streets, and finish off the road test "circle" with a 2 mile run down the freeway. It was really helpful for diagnosing ride disturbances at different speeds, terrain, etc.,
    I never even drove the damn thing out of our mall parking lot during this road test, (this was the only time in my 10 years working there that I had ever done such a thing) IT ABSOLUTELY, TRULY feels just like the memes; that the car is actively trying to kill you. Particularly, if you're not used to the subtleties of that torque hitting (even with very careful throttle and clutch control), once that power gets itself to the rear tires, that car felt utterly possessed. I parked it and hid the keys in my desk for the rest of the week until the customer was expected to pick it up. Last thing I wanted was for one of our rookie techs to try to get out for a joyride. Nope.

  • @Reaniman99
    @Reaniman99 Před rokem +380

    James asking Jay's team to drive the f1 is the definition of go big or go home lmao

    • @phillydelphia8760
      @phillydelphia8760 Před rokem +6

      Or go bankrupt if you bin it

    • @fantabuloussnuffaluffagus
      @fantabuloussnuffaluffagus Před rokem +22

      And ... he went home.

    • @robertives973
      @robertives973 Před rokem +19

      You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take

    • @SCRandall
      @SCRandall Před rokem +7

      I mean, who wouldn't at least TRY and do the same thing? I sure as hell would have done the same thing in James' shoes.

    • @TheWinjin
      @TheWinjin Před rokem +1

      "Yeah you're dreaming but on a budget" is hilarious

  • @pali1H
    @pali1H Před rokem +181

    My uncle was one of the engineers on the 1st Viper. He picked me up one day after school in a Viper prototype. I was 9. It felt like an alien spaceship.

    • @MrBigCookie3
      @MrBigCookie3 Před rokem +10

      That’s amazing

    • @maddesi2709
      @maddesi2709 Před rokem +6

      😳every kid's dream!

    • @reubenherrera9827
      @reubenherrera9827 Před rokem

      Here in Calabasas California. However, I own an apartment in Madrid Spain...and a very specific and special U.S spec 92 Dodge Viper (SR I) that I keep there. Same and only car used in the 99 film The Ninth Gate with J.Depp. Purchased it in 01 in France as the car was stuck in port due to paperwork issues and held indefinitely. I work in film and television and reached out to and ended up buying the car and having it basically transferred to me and backing it out of customs to purchase. I ended up just paying off a "negotiated" minimal storage fees on behalf and the production company sold it to me for that and gave me title. Great car (8,600 mi) no real issues. Yes, exhaust pipe bad location. No biggie. Overheating; fixed. For years every time I would go back and forth between the States I was bringing in all kinds of duplicate spares; oil filters, all filters, gaskets, switches, hoses, pulleys, thermostats, bulbs, headlights, suspension rods, brake pads, rotors, engine and clutch parts, etc. Best car ever. Recently did a detail with clay bar and a full clear wrap. Other than thermostat and correctable electrical issues the car is bombproof. It gets a fluid change once a year, new battery every 3 years, a battery tender hooked up and a doorman who starts it up twice a week now going on 22 years. No leaks. Solid car. It, to this day whenever I am there (twice a year minimum minus covid as was there 11 months) the car is a huge hit. Like a monster hit. Fun fact. In 2016 I bumped into Johnny Depp here in L.A at a thing and I tried talking to him and told him how I ended up with that car. He had no idea what I was talking about. Like literally no idea what I was talking about until a buddy of his had to remind him later. Then again all he did was sit in the passenger seat in that scene. I have worked with and met many actors and this was the one time that I felt stupid for opening my mouth. My then fourth ex-wife kept pushing me to break the ice and talk to him and tell him about the car even though I did not want to. Even though he was real kind about it and tried to pretend like he knew what it was; after the fact. The nice thing was that his buddy kind of leaned into me afterwards and said," it's okay, he kinda gets it; he's just NOT a car guy." And then LATER he said, " Oh, the red targa with Emmanuel. Yes, yes"!

    • @dongordon4464
      @dongordon4464 Před rokem +1

      you lucky dog you

  • @JeanMarceaux
    @JeanMarceaux Před měsícem +2

    I still like the way James May described owning a car like these ones: it's a community service. They're awful cars to drive and own, but whenever they're out on a ride across town, they remind people that wonderful examples of automotive design exist.
    He was talking about a Ferrari 308GTB (or whatever)

  • @smody121
    @smody121 Před měsícem +3

    I have a '95 SL320 R129 and absolutely love it. Yes, I had to re-solder the brake light wiring that runs along the trunk hinge, and the blower motor had to be replaced and jerry-rigged but it was cheap and I'm learning a ton about how to work on my own car. 3rd party parts haven't been an issue yet and you don't see these on the road much anymore so get a lot of compliments. The most come from Gen Z kids, makes me think of the days of the 90s when I'd look at the 60s and 70s cars like that.

  • @stephenmaw6482
    @stephenmaw6482 Před rokem +206

    That story on the Pagani and the son giving the okay is amazing. Can we get a series called "Story Time" and just go into things like this.

    • @vivekreddy3886
      @vivekreddy3886 Před rokem +2

      I second this

    • @TheLegoPerson
      @TheLegoPerson Před rokem +1

      Yeah Donut must have so many amazing stories like this

    • @jordank195
      @jordank195 Před rokem

      @@TheLegoPerson Need a Donut version of VinWiki Stories

  • @evandempsey1682
    @evandempsey1682 Před rokem +209

    My dads cousin had a first gen viper. He was driving it a few months ago, lost control, hit a tree and ripped the car into pieces. He was ejected still strapped into the drivers seat. He broke almost every bone in his body but he’s doing better now. He said he wants his viper back 😂

    • @roddydykes7053
      @roddydykes7053 Před rokem +17

      A few years ago I saw one that had hopped a curb and was stuck on a boulevard. So clearly they still are a handful for their old owners to drive

    • @spedracer55
      @spedracer55 Před rokem +9

      jesus

    • @tesmith47
      @tesmith47 Před rokem +16

      @@spedracer55 take the wheel

    • @tommyt1971
      @tommyt1971 Před rokem +1

      Maybe he did it for that very thrill?

    • @AngryGamer1224
      @AngryGamer1224 Před 11 měsíci +2

      *o u c h i e s*
      My consent and best wishes goes to that man.

  • @ShortAss00
    @ShortAss00 Před rokem +49

    Knowing that about the Mclaren makes the fact that Rowan Atkinson put tens of thousands of miles on his F1 absolutely legendary!

    • @bilsbo8870
      @bilsbo8870 Před rokem +8

      plus he wrecked then have the car rebuilt twice, and sold it for $12.2mil

    • @terraflata
      @terraflata Před 11 měsíci +1

      I think the determination of the McLaren F1 is innacurate. Even with all the costs involved the appreciation value was there. You could own one from the start, drive it and maintain it all its life and still sell it for a profit.

    • @norton750commando
      @norton750commando Před 5 měsíci

      Makes sense if a lot of the maintenance intervals are time based rather than mileage based.

  • @_..-.._..-.._
    @_..-.._..-.._ Před rokem +3

    I’m more offended that a Civic costs $50k rather than the McLaren tires being $50k.

  • @gimnof
    @gimnof Před rokem +551

    You guys should do a kit car build. Maybe a factory five or something. That would be a cool series.

  • @NarwahlGaming
    @NarwahlGaming Před rokem +224

    Our town's richest guy (every town has one) waited 6 months or so for his custom Viper when they first came out.
    He showed up to our auto shop to show it off and took one of our guys for a "quick ride".
    They were gone for over an hour.
    Keith decided to do a doughnut in an intersection (because he's rich enough to be able to do one - in town) and wrapped the car around a telephone pole. 😂

    • @JaredConnell
      @JaredConnell Před rokem +22

      Does your town have a donut tax that rich people are allowed to do donuts wherever they want??

    • @briangarrow448
      @briangarrow448 Před rokem +47

      I have a similar story from my hometown. A former classmate inherited a huge amount of money from an uncle who he barely knew, and had no idea how wealthy the uncle was. He immediately went out and bought the most expensive version of the Chevy Corvette for that year. I believe it was early 1980’s.
      He managed to drive it off the road into a very deep and nasty drainage ditch, around 8-10 feet deep with 6 feet of stinking swamp water in it. He had the car for about 3 days, took possession on Wednesday and crashed it on Friday night.
      What a fecking idiot.

    • @flurpoid
      @flurpoid Před rokem +20

      ​@@JaredConnell Reckless driving tickets are just a tax on fun

    • @robswystun2766
      @robswystun2766 Před rokem +13

      Typical Keith.

    • @williamvolkmann8658
      @williamvolkmann8658 Před rokem +2

      @@JaredConnell yea, just pickup the pieces and make a tiny viper

  • @jergarmar
    @jergarmar Před 10 měsíci +7

    My jaw literally fell open hearing about James driving that Pagani, that is an absolutely insane experience, from arranging to drive it, getting it insured from an actual Pagani, driving it through Huntington Beach, and that doesn't even include the insane experience of *actually driving the car*. That is nuts, I can't imagine.

  • @andrewstoffel
    @andrewstoffel Před rokem +4

    Whoa, SuperEgo transition music at 5:50

  • @justinxwest
    @justinxwest Před rokem +9

    7:35 y'all are killing me with the Joestar "OHHH NOOOOO"

  • @b42charlie
    @b42charlie Před rokem +588

    The biodegradable wiring harness is interesting. Idk if modern wires have it but one reason rats loved chewing up wires in cars was because they could smell the peanut oil that was used in making the insulation for the wires.

    • @calebboatsman7856
      @calebboatsman7856 Před rokem +44

      Toyota actually has a huge issue with this on their wiring harnesses. Common to see a Toyota base come into a shop with wiring harness issues from rodents. I don't know specifics of what these harnesses were made out of, but I always chalked it up to "rat friendly food."

    • @dacenmclean7901
      @dacenmclean7901 Před rokem +36

      They are made out of corn derived plastics. Rats love them.

    • @nonotever-cu3nr
      @nonotever-cu3nr Před rokem +5

      ​@@calebboatsman7856 that's true my friend has a tacoma and his has a 2 year old 4runner both had to have new wiring harness replaced in 2 years because of rodents eating them.

    • @sc1338
      @sc1338 Před rokem +10

      No they reverted thank god. Rats will chew anything

    • @whoisthis4130
      @whoisthis4130 Před rokem +10

      The model of ford fusions like the 2007 had this issue. My dad hat one that was his daily driver. He kept it in a clean mostly empty garage and a small animal got to the wires over night. When he towed it to the ford dealership your explanation was the exact story the mechanic gave him. He said that they see it a lot because rodents were drawn to the wires insulation and liked to eat it.

  • @MkSwampy
    @MkSwampy Před rokem +9

    Donut single handedly trying to drive down prices on collector cars. I see what you're doing Donut.

  • @Sheeto_
    @Sheeto_ Před rokem +8

    who is the jerma fan at donut???? I KNOW THAT OOOOOOOOOO at 7:51

  • @judelagcao3575
    @judelagcao3575 Před rokem +412

    Everytime James pronounce the Lamborgine ma-shine makes me laugh so hard. 😅😅🤣🤣

  • @superhawk20002
    @superhawk20002 Před rokem +136

    The Viper looked more and more like a sweet dream as the video went on.

    • @bluemonday2000
      @bluemonday2000 Před rokem +7

      The newer ones were better

    • @napoleontheclown
      @napoleontheclown Před rokem +24

      First gen Viper is firmly in the realm of "nightmare as a daily, but if it's just a sunny weekend toy it's a joy." It was basically designed as a track car that you didn't need to trailer between tracks.

    • @coolbreezelb5023
      @coolbreezelb5023 Před rokem +6

      @@bluemonday2000 its that nostalgia of the first gens though as a kid brought up in the 90s. Especially the GTS, blue with white stripes, and that wing....mmm sexy.

    • @shuruff904
      @shuruff904 Před rokem +3

      @@coolbreezelb5023 THAT Exact car/paint (99') is my dream car. I know they're not million dollar Paganis, but I don't want a Pagani or McLaren. Gimme that Shelby Blue and white Viper any day. But with Brembos lol

    • @coolbreezelb5023
      @coolbreezelb5023 Před rokem +1

      @@shuruff904 hell yea! What color brembos?

  • @sigep145
    @sigep145 Před rokem +2

    My accounting teacher in college was a cool old lady in her 70's who was car crazy. Her daily driver was the Dodge Ram with the Viper engine package. She owned a Viper but made her brother drive it for her. In the first day of class she mentioned she always keeps a dollar in her wallet so she's not vagrant in a reference to the movie Convoy which drew a comment from me about Dirty Lyle, Pig Pen, Spider Mike, & that g-damned double-nickle limit (if you know, you know) & we were instantly bonded for the rest of my college career. Amazing woman with a lifetime of accounting experience in the real world & a very talented teacher. Think she just taught to keep busy. She's probably the main reason I graduated with honors. Pretty sure she passed away in the last 10 years. Sucks, she was an amazing woman.

  • @taylorgang2237
    @taylorgang2237 Před rokem +8

    I’d love to see this with more attainable cars that are inconvenient due to things other than money. Lotus Elise is a good example. Clam being fragile, parts availability. Getting in and out etc

  • @sircalvin
    @sircalvin Před rokem +68

    i was honestly surprised at how "cheap" and most importantly, convenient the bugatti upkeep was. after listing off all the mclaren prices and complications, simplifying it to 100k every 14 months and everything is taken care of is amazing

    • @jayathranps1319
      @jayathranps1319 Před rokem +11

      I suppose they overpriced the individual services to sell the package deal.

    • @no1DdC
      @no1DdC Před rokem +5

      @@jayathranps1319 It should be mentioned that if anything major that needs to be done to the car comes up during this service, the total bill quickly grows to much more than 100k. It's also worth mentioning that this price doesn't stay fixed and does increase over time, obviously. Lots of pricing info on the service of Bugattis is already outdated, because the owners don't talk about it that much and Bugatti themselves are obviously not very forthcoming about it either.

    • @whereforartthou
      @whereforartthou Před rokem +8

      But also remember that 14 months tune up is probably based on an insanely low mileage estimate. I'd be shocked if it was even 10k mi a year. If you look up used supercars you can easily find 20 year old supercars with less than 5k miles.

    • @dennisbernal91z28f1
      @dennisbernal91z28f1 Před rokem +3

      @@whereforartthou Way way way less miles than 10k or even 5k a year. I bought a 2015 Vette in 2019 and it only had 5k miles on it and that was considered "normal". Super car owners do a calculation called "$ of depreciation / mile". In some cars it can be $3-$5k per mile so they rather keep them off the road and let them appreciate faster than any stock they own. That is why the crazy $7.4 mil Pagani sold out, all those hyper special models do, exactly for that reason. They raise in value faster than stocks.

  • @j_mars_cars
    @j_mars_cars Před rokem +349

    Donut really dropping videos at 5am their time. Bravo

  • @JustDux
    @JustDux Před rokem +2

    You kow what, old cars have charisma, their own style. I recognized every single one from this shadow silhouette's like 2:07

  • @monopod6801
    @monopod6801 Před rokem +11

    Would have been cool to see a few “sweet dreams”, I feel like Series Land Rovers and 90s Defenders might fit that bill

  • @MMWoodworking
    @MMWoodworking Před rokem +58

    My Dad's friend had one of those exact Vipers, and to this day, the 20 min ride in that car, on Colorado mountain-side roads, twists, turns and all, was one of the most thrilling things I have ever done. Being catapulted into the back of my seat with every shift was amazing. Sweet dream, no doubt.

    • @midnight347
      @midnight347 Před rokem +4

      They aren't practical and don't make good dailies I mean that kind of goes without saying and alot of car at that time didn't have traction control. This was a real drivers car. It's basically a race car with license plates and drives as such. Cool for nice day or and weekend drives and stuff but not that practical for a daily.

    • @RCmaniac667
      @RCmaniac667 Před rokem +2

      ​@@midnight347 i think it's fine daily if not making stupid mistakes like flooring the gas and braking pedals agressively

  • @gzeus6332
    @gzeus6332 Před rokem +53

    Was lucky to own a gen 2 viper 5 years ago, you would be very surprised just how reliable they were. Never had unscheduled maintenance in 3 years of ownership.

    • @PM-wc1lp
      @PM-wc1lp Před rokem +13

      Same here, no issues, six years of ownership. '98 GTS

    • @CptLang97
      @CptLang97 Před rokem +4

      Given the engine is based on a design for a truck, it makes sense that they're reliable, after the 1st gen problems were addressed

    • @Impulset0
      @Impulset0 Před rokem +4

      99 GTS. Owned it 9 years. Had an o ring on the AC line crack. 20 cent part.

    • @midnight347
      @midnight347 Před rokem +3

      ​@@CptLang97 yea they're low revving huge displacement pushrod v10 I can see why it would be reliable. The gen 2 looks more practical than the gen 1. They aren't practical daily drivers for most that is for sure. Kind of goes without saying.

    • @jamescampbell4334
      @jamescampbell4334 Před rokem

      I put 100k miles on a Gen1 ('94).
      Crossover tube gasket coolant leak was the only issue. Everything else was scheduled maintenance and normal wear items.
      Had the OE clutch when I sold it.

  • @koihoshi
    @koihoshi Před rokem +2

    I've got a '95 RT/10 and as Justin mentioned, they are a great track toy. My partner really doesn't like the car. I LOVE IT. But she has no interest in road trips in the viper. We also have a C6 corvette and she is in love with that car. It's comfy, it's more practical, it has heated seats. I drive my viper all over the place, but I wouldn't say there is real concern for it breaking down all the time. It's been stout as stout can be. However, I do autocross it and it spends a lot of time getting driven hard. Easy car to work on too. I can certainly agree they are impractical but I wouldn't go so far as to say they suck to own.

  • @ColonelBumButt
    @ColonelBumButt Před rokem +2

    I owned a '94 Viper RT/10 that was the only Callaway modified Viper they ever made. It didn't handle that well, and the gearing was so tall that it would go over 90mph in 2nd gear, so it didn't rev or sound good. It was flashy but every time I got out of it, I'd find a loose screw or bolt on the floor.

  • @Decipher13
    @Decipher13 Před rokem +5

    6:48 >$10,000 means greater than $10,000. The pointed end always points to the lower number.

  • @frodosfrostbite
    @frodosfrostbite Před rokem +41

    Fun fact,the countach didn't actually come with the wing from factory. The dealers installed them themselves. So every countach wing has been applied differently,even some with drywall screws has been seen before!

    • @rocketsurgeon11
      @rocketsurgeon11 Před rokem +4

      And the wing does absolutely nothing except add weight and drag!

    • @frodosfrostbite
      @frodosfrostbite Před rokem

      @rocketsurgeon11 exactly,and honestly just looks stupid IMO,I personally would remove it

    • @rocketsurgeon11
      @rocketsurgeon11 Před rokem +1

      @@frodosfrostbite my 10 year old self screams NO!! But my mature me with my knowledge of it and the design of the car...yeah, I'd probably take it off, too.

    • @frodosfrostbite
      @frodosfrostbite Před rokem +2

      @rocketsurgeon11 I was the same way until I found out it was actually just a dealer aftermarket option lol its literally factory rice

    • @fishii8237
      @fishii8237 Před 8 dny

      @@rocketsurgeon11 very much a useless boomerang you attach on your car that also has the very useful side benefit of reducing your already tiny visibility even more

  • @JakeAdkinsOfficial
    @JakeAdkinsOfficial Před rokem +1

    Now I'm imagining James with 2 Bugattis- one running Konigs and one running BBS.

  • @TheStammzilla
    @TheStammzilla Před rokem +1

    In the Viper's defense a lot of cars from the early 1990s didn't come standard with airbags. Crazy I know, but 1999 was the year that airbags became mandatory in the entire United States.

  • @TheDuckumz
    @TheDuckumz Před rokem +56

    The 190E and its DTM variants are still some of the coolest looking Mercedes in my opinion to this day. Crazy to me to think that someone out there is spending 7 million on one car when for 7 million i could own multiples of almost every car i would want and a shit ton of land to build storage facilities on and still support my entire immediate family for our lifetimes...

    • @DOOM1715
      @DOOM1715 Před rokem +5

      That whole era of those DTM cars were amazing! The 190E is perfection

  • @lhoydjoseragay6674
    @lhoydjoseragay6674 Před rokem +39

    The fact that James drove a Huayra is still mindblowing! My soul would leave my body if I even ride as a passenger.

  • @gcrav
    @gcrav Před 9 měsíci

    This theme could be applied to some classics as well. I'm thinking of the 300SL gullwing and the Lotus Elite and Elan. The original 300SL was a one-off for racing but M-B was convinced to do a production run for customers. The gullwing doors were an expedient workaround for their being restricted by the space frame below them and required the steering wheel to be removed for the driver to get in and out of the vehicle. No problem for a race driver, but not great for the people that bought them for the cool factor. Also, the mechanical fuel injection would wash gasoline into the crankcase while starting. Again, something that pretty much restricts them to being track cars. The Lotus Elite and Elan were fine driver's cars but were a maintenance nightmare for different reasons. The Elite used a plastic body that suspension parts were directly attached to. Of course, the mounting points tended to fail. The Elan was hands down the best small British roadster, but they were batch built with parts and fitting that were not entirely consistent between runs, and documentation of the changes was sketchy at best. Restoring one or replacing parts is a job for a specialist.

  • @lucianene7741
    @lucianene7741 Před 7 měsíci +1

    They should definitely do a remake of the first-generation Viper, the car looks hyper-cool even today. But with modern amenities such windows, airbags, ABS, TC, things that are not expensive and can be found on any econobox. And, of course, door handles.

    • @tracklizard4018
      @tracklizard4018 Před 5 měsíci

      They can't. Every car looks like a crossover blob today for a reason.

  • @cdg3477
    @cdg3477 Před rokem +102

    I'd love to see a series with you guys building a kit car.

    • @Mr.beansholiday
      @Mr.beansholiday Před rokem +2

      Like an Ultima with a 7.0 from the C6 zo6

    • @swifty-nine
      @swifty-nine Před rokem +2

      @@Mr.beansholiday I think a Caterham 7 or a Factory 5 Cobra replica would be more in the style of the Donut team personally.
      For a starting point, they could use a K20 for the Caterham or a Shelby GT350 Mustang engine for the Cobra, then if things work out and the series is popular/successful, they could do a "part 2" series where they either upgrade the K20 and turn the Caterham into a serious track weapon or give the GT350 engine the Roush Performance treatment and make the Cobra a serious street bruiser.

  • @ultrajesus123
    @ultrajesus123 Před rokem +7

    That section about the shelby cobra makes me think: HiLo with kit cars? surely there are expensive and cheap kit cars out there and that sounds like a blast.

  • @upinarms79
    @upinarms79 Před 9 měsíci

    "cause it doent even have no door handles neither" 🤣 James, never stop bro.

  • @MichaelRoy-hc3lz
    @MichaelRoy-hc3lz Před měsícem

    I have a 75 Countach, the no flares no wings skinny tire one. They didn't keep the best records but it was the 28th one built. Bought it in pieces and took years to finish. It handled bad, weak brakes, heavy steering, heavier clutch, no rear vision and over 140 mph the rear end would start to lift. It gets to 60 in 7 seconds. I love it! Driving it is an event. I've installed an electric power steering rack, Wilwood brakes, tweaked the suspension and added Vintage air. I'm a skinny 6 foot and barely can fit. The noise it makes and the pure mechanical feel is fantastic

  • @armadillolover99
    @armadillolover99 Před rokem +37

    My uncle had a first gen Viper when I was growing up (which he eventually gave to his son who uses it as a weekend car now), I was never told about the exhausts and the first time I rode in it I was wearing shorts, so naturally I burned my leg getting in. It’s not the tailpipe or even the exhaust gasses that get you, it’s the bodywork underneath the door which you aren’t expecting to be hot.

    • @shuruff904
      @shuruff904 Před rokem +6

      Vipers in the wild are known to bite....

  • @riccochet704
    @riccochet704 Před rokem +167

    A bit of a correction. The Viper engine was not derived from a Lamborghini engine. It was prototyped in the early 80's based on a 360 (5.9) LA V8 with 2 extra cylinders, longer stroke and bigger bore. Well before Chrysler owned Lamborghini in 1987. If you sat a gen 1 Viper head next to a 360 LA head they are damn near identical, aside from the extra cylinder.

    • @thomashayhurst6547
      @thomashayhurst6547 Před rokem +8

      That is true but lamborghini was involved with the engine. They were given the job of making the cylinder heads from aluminium

    • @riccochet704
      @riccochet704 Před rokem +25

      @@thomashayhurst6547 The only thing Lamborghini did was the production of the aluminum block and heads. The iron block and head V10 design was already in existence and production used by Chrysler in heavy duty trucks. In other words, the engine already existed, they just tasked Lamborghini with the production of the aluminum version of those parts since they had the production facilities to do so. This was an engine that was already producing close to 360 HP in the iron block, and was retuned to 420 HP in the aluminum block via the use of forge internals, intake plenum and higher compression. If you put the head of a Chrysler LA V8 next to a SR1 Viper head they look nearly identical, aside from one being cast iron and the other being aluminum and having 1 extra combustion chamber. Even the combustion chambers are the same design. The ports are the same design, the rocker assemblies are the same design, they basically the same head. If you took a LA V8 block and a SR1 Viper block and put them side by side they look extremely similar, because the Viper block is essentially an LA block with 2 extra cylinders but made out of aluminum. They did increase bore and stroke to get to 8.0 liters of displacement.

    • @giovanni4304
      @giovanni4304 Před rokem +2

      @@riccochet704 Negative, nice try though.

    • @derekhobbs1102
      @derekhobbs1102 Před rokem +4

      I recall reading that they were truck engines stuffed into them.

    • @SugarSpyce
      @SugarSpyce Před rokem

      @@giovanni4304 positive, but nice try. if you're not going to disprove him then don't type dipshit.

  • @wmgthilgen
    @wmgthilgen Před rokem +1

    I'm now 74 and in my 20's when it came to an over whelming desire to own a particular car, my huckleberry was the Miata. Though I wasn't in a position to afford one, I would have draged my ball's through a mile of glass to own one. However being 6 foot 3, though I tried, I couldn't even test drive one. But to this day, it still has it original appeal to me.

  • @conchobar
    @conchobar Před rokem +1

    T-Pain has a great story on owning a Bugatti Veyron. You couldn't give me a Countach today, but no car ever reached the level of Cool as the Countach of the 80s. Remember, there was no internet or social media back then, but everyone knew what that car was and what it represented.

  • @zombieslayaaaa
    @zombieslayaaaa Před rokem +32

    Highly appreciated the Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 'spine-transfer + the 900' transition, that sound just unlocked some sweet childhood memories lol

    • @chuck2998
      @chuck2998 Před rokem

      I think it's free for playstation users right now

  • @robocat893
    @robocat893 Před rokem +13

    I bought a Toyota MR-2 in 1986. That car was extremely reliable and lots of fun to drive! I still miss it.

  • @jeffjordan8836
    @jeffjordan8836 Před rokem +3

    Man you guys crack me up every time I watch this channel that’s why I come here for the content and the laughs haha.

  • @bubbajoe165
    @bubbajoe165 Před rokem

    I knew a kid in college and his dad owned a deep purple 90s viper. It was so beautiful and he never drove it because of all of those exact reasons so it just sat in the garage.

  • @KingCronan
    @KingCronan Před rokem +88

    More content like this please! I miss the old days of up to speed and wheel house but since it seems we aren't getting those back I MUCH prefer this than another Wish car parts video. This is interesting and you actually learn about the cars which is what originally brought me to this channel.

    • @zidul
      @zidul Před rokem

      This vid was trash dude. Probably took half hour or research and work for one intern.

    • @treboogey00
      @treboogey00 Před rokem

      Amen

  • @DaimyoD0
    @DaimyoD0 Před rokem +6

    3:58 I totally misread this as the next car being the Dodge Challenger and I was really like, "That doesn't look much like a Challenger. Are they that hard to maintain? How is it a 90's supercar? In what world is that James' favorite car??? Oh."

  • @IceNein763
    @IceNein763 Před rokem +1

    I was a kid during the Countach/Testarosa days, even had a Ferrari dealership down the street. I was 100% a testarosa guy. I never thought the countaches looked any good.

  • @tantona9315
    @tantona9315 Před rokem +1

    I was tempted to get one of these at the time - glad I ended up with an Impreza Turbo!

  • @vornamenachname727
    @vornamenachname727 Před rokem +3

    6:09 They are reliable. My friend dailys a ´91 190E, completely stock, original everything.

  • @businessnik
    @businessnik Před rokem +22

    Rented a Viper in Vegas years ago. Definitely a fun, visceral, and scary car to drive. Loved it.

    • @davidbowman2001
      @davidbowman2001 Před rokem +1

      I wonder what the average lifespan of a rentable Viper is lol.

    • @aezzil3536
      @aezzil3536 Před rokem

      Im surprised its even allowed to be rented

  • @spencerchism3926
    @spencerchism3926 Před rokem +12

    My family has owned a 91 dodge viper my entire life. Red one that looks identical to the one in this video. It has been awesome to own! Seems to handle very well and has never had a major issue. Have definitely burnt my ankles on the side exhaust. But if you do it once, you'll never forget to be careful!

  • @xcrack6364
    @xcrack6364 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Man. The 2005 Dodge Viper was always my dream car.

  • @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245

    “ This car will *kill you* “ - Mr. Regular

  • @splitsecondmagician
    @splitsecondmagician Před rokem +4

    As Regular Car Reviews said about the first generation Dodge Viper: "This car is trying to kill you. HOWEVER, it will not do what you don't ask it to."

  • @J-RAD_notAnNpc
    @J-RAD_notAnNpc Před 13 dny

    When i was about 7 one of my dads co workers had the original viper in red. I got to go for a ride in it, which was insane to me because even though we werent poor poor we lived like we were. One of my coolest childhood memories

  • @FTsingos
    @FTsingos Před rokem

    I'll push back on the 90s vipers. My neighbor owned one and I spent a few times cruising with him in it. They were very, very loud and harsh to drive and left you worn out after a drive. It actually made my 2001 trans am seem comfortable. It was also dangerous if you got stupid and tried to do more than your ability. But if you kept it as a summer and weekend car, it was basically bullet proof. NO ONE HAS EVER BOUGHT A VIPER AS A DAILY DRIVER. My neighbor sold his 93 viper and bought a 1994 lotus esprit. The esprit was "more" comfortable than the viper was, but still mildly tiring. It was also less exciting to own and the turbo would frequently overheat and you had to drive around without boost for a bit. And the maintenance was an absolute nightmare. My neighbor worked for Cisco Systems and made crazy amounts of money and he still got annoyed by the constant maintenance with the Lotus. He was frequently annoyed with how he could rarely take it out each Saturday without it needing something or some bug popping up. He regretted getting the Lotus. So I would completely take the Viper over the other cars on this list.

  • @JayZoop
    @JayZoop Před rokem +15

    The Dodge Viper was my dream car as a kid. The moment I got into an actual one and saw the cheap interior, that went out the door.

    • @dajam9035
      @dajam9035 Před rokem

      Facts 😂

    • @jaynelson6228
      @jaynelson6228 Před rokem +2

      Still love it though. We're all just 10 year old kids with paychecks now

    • @damienlee1165
      @damienlee1165 Před rokem +1

      Its like a Corvette, only the budget for the engine is doubled and the budget for the interior is halved.

    • @midnight347
      @midnight347 Před rokem

      Those kinds of cars aren't about interior especially in the 90s I mean what makes viper great is it looks sound and performance. You don't get a car like this for the interior I don't understand people dissing on them because of interior it's like the bare bones nature is part of the vipers charm. This car isn't about that and if fancy interior is more important to you than amazing looks and performance than this isn't the car for you.

    • @JayZoop
      @JayZoop Před rokem

      @@midnight347 The Interior is part of the driving experience. Most of the driving is done at slower speeds anyway. I'm not going to be beating the crap out of it constantly.

  • @furleyforever
    @furleyforever Před rokem +24

    Those old Countach's were weird. The ergos suffered from the same thing as most Italian cars of that era. After adjusting for your liking, you'd usually find that you had to reach for the steering wheel but your legs were cramped. Also, the huge tunnel in the middle forced you to one side of the car. Looked damn cool though.

    • @MountainGanesh
      @MountainGanesh Před rokem +1

      Someone once mentioned in another video that the ergonomics of the Countach work much better if you drive like an Italian e.g. with your arms resting on your thighs and your hands on the *bottom* of the wheel. But they did admit that everything else is accurate especially the clutch pedal which is apparently set in concrete (did Lambo borrow one of their tractor clutches to make sure it could handle the motor?)

  • @gigatron2008
    @gigatron2008 Před rokem

    At least the seats in the Viper are one of the most comfortable I've ever owned. Viper is actually reliable as long as you get those head gaskets replaced.

  • @wirecxre
    @wirecxre Před rokem +3

    All of these cars should be in the sweet dream category because the people who buy them can afford to maintain them

  • @kuebby
    @kuebby Před rokem +8

    I love how all the hosts are slowly getting gold necklaces.

  • @stephenchurch1784
    @stephenchurch1784 Před rokem

    I had a friend in high-school who's dad owned the cobra 427. I 'm 30 now and the ankle scars from it still have not faded

  • @ChrisCardenDrums
    @ChrisCardenDrums Před 8 měsíci

    Actually, gen 1 vipers are extremely low maintenance by sports car standards. Only real headache is finding tires, which it has a tendency to convert into smoke pretty quickly when driving hard

  • @Zanmiester
    @Zanmiester Před rokem +10

    It’s not where near the price status of these but I feel like MINI makes this list (esp. n14 engine). Super fun to drive, people love seeing them, electrical issues, hpfp issues, timing chain issues, heat issues, and the list goes on. Nightmare to own

  • @michaelciullo4788
    @michaelciullo4788 Před rokem +12

    As an owner of a Gen 2 viper (nearly identical mechanically) it is incredibly reliable. It's never once failed me in my years of ownership

    • @CodyGraham
      @CodyGraham Před rokem +2

      I had a 96 for years and just a few minor issues, certainly nothing that sucks to own

    • @michaelciullo4788
      @michaelciullo4788 Před rokem +1

      @Cody Graham they're great cars. Many examples with over 100k miles and constant abuse with no major failures. I think the Gen 1s had issues and everyone who knows no better just assumes they're problematic and that's very far from the truth. The only thing that's problematic is parts availability.

  • @kylemitchell2052
    @kylemitchell2052 Před 8 měsíci

    man this makes me feel way better about the people on tiktok that flaunt these cars around like they're common knowing they're getting drowned.
    It doesn't really matter, but at least i can rest easy

  • @CapeRides
    @CapeRides Před rokem

    Viper was amazing,so futuristic looking . Even the TV show

  • @The_69_Club
    @The_69_Club Před rokem +53

    The whole donut crew is on point right now. It feels like you all fit in so well in every aspect. Love this channel alot!

  • @michaelmaas5544
    @michaelmaas5544 Před rokem +3

    A friend of mine owns two Vipers, he gave me the keys to one once. Almost having the ass end slide out when hitting 3rd scared the shit out of me.
    I was only gone about 15 minutes, thought it’d be good idea to get back before getting to “comfortable” with it.

  • @dingusmcslow1908
    @dingusmcslow1908 Před rokem

    I had a ‘94 e320 w124. Had to get rid of it due to the biodegradable wiring harness being destroyed in upstate NY. Loved that car, comfiest seats ever.

  • @EKez1985
    @EKez1985 Před rokem +22

    I love Justin he's got such a great vibe about him and his laughs give me happy feelings all day. Also next Hi/Lo challenge should definitely be kit cars

  • @ProjectM97
    @ProjectM97 Před rokem +7

    I can't wait to see the series where you actually build a Shelby Cobra kit car to validate that the original is a beautiful nightmare.

  • @heinrichmuller7974
    @heinrichmuller7974 Před rokem

    back in the mid 90s when i was a kid the very first viper i ever saw was one that crashed/blewup behind my house.
    theres a expressway merge directly behind the sound barriers in my backyard, accidents happen fairly frequently but i always remembered the viper wreck, now i didn't see it happen, i heard it, and by the time i got there it was already in flames but from what i read in the papers the next day the guy was absolutely flying as he tried to merge and he smashed into the back of someone driving more reasonably.
    i never knew the viper was lacking in so many features we take for granted, it has me wondering what role they played in this mans death?

  • @NKPGarage
    @NKPGarage Před rokem

    So many iconic cars on the list. Great video boys!

  • @nathanlauzier7768
    @nathanlauzier7768 Před rokem +52

    Saw that viper in the background of another video and ive been ready to see it in the foreground. My dream car for years and years, and here we are crapping on it. Im still convinced i want one. Also the 3 spokes are sick as hell

    • @arandomcat8346
      @arandomcat8346 Před rokem +9

      These scammers, can’t even put the profile picture correctly 💀
      Edit: scammers comment probably got removed

    • @katherinelehmkuhl8659
      @katherinelehmkuhl8659 Před rokem +2

      fan-blades for life my guy

    • @TheDarkPacific
      @TheDarkPacific Před rokem

      Bro i give no fucks how badly these matchines wants to kill me. I will own one. Of each gen. Period

    • @CIoudStriker
      @CIoudStriker Před rokem +1

      @@arandomcat8346 CZcams really needs to add a specific "impersonation of legitimate channels" option to their report feature.

    • @Endo240
      @Endo240 Před rokem +1

      My dad had one probably one of the best cars I’ve rode in

  • @Turbowagon
    @Turbowagon Před rokem +6

    I have a first gen viper that I've owned for quite a while and taken from Florida to California and back on a road trip. Put the soft top and windows on and crank the a/c on max cold. No issues at all with mine. Many people have vipers with plenty of milage on them. Lots of cars over 100k miles. They take a certain amount of not being an idiot to keep them on the road but they are super fun to push hard and drive great with proper inputs

  • @jdwht2455
    @jdwht2455 Před rokem +1

    A fun video - thanks since it does bring back some memories of the rich kid in our group's '66 427 Street Cobra which I had occasion to tune and test drive many times. IIRC, he paid somewhere in the neighborhood of an amazingingly steep $7K while my '63 406/405 Galaxie 500XL was only about 3200 bucks and the ''65 with PI engine was ~$3500. How times changed

  • @theonlynontrollhere
    @theonlynontrollhere Před rokem

    11:50-12:07
    “You raised my hopes, then *dashed* them quite expertly! Bravo!”

  • @calebbaker7355
    @calebbaker7355 Před rokem +39

    love getting off work and immediately seeing a donut upload 🙌🏻

  • @nicklasappleby3534
    @nicklasappleby3534 Před rokem +6

    This one goes out to the underdogs behind the scenes. Donut's style, design and editing is looking great. Keep it up team 🍩❤️

  • @tony_25or6to4
    @tony_25or6to4 Před rokem +1

    When the Viper was introduced as a concept car in the late 80s, people were throwing money at Dodge to produce and sell them. "Take my money"

  • @crossedcreeks2898
    @crossedcreeks2898 Před rokem

    You guys should do a video on what cars have the most expensive services/ownership costs

  • @Thistle55
    @Thistle55 Před rokem +5

    Viper isnt that bad. I had a 99 GTS. Amazing car. Okay, if the tires are cold, you havent much grip. But after 10-15m of driving they have a lot grip. You can max accelerate in the first gear without any lost of grip. I miss that car

  • @oinvestments1413
    @oinvestments1413 Před rokem +101

    Wow, so we just gonna ignore the fact that Justin is 40 but looks 30..