MT-82 vs Tremec T56 Magnum XL Review
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- In this review, I compare the Tremec T56 Magnum XL transmission against the stock Mustang GT MT-82.
The Tremec T56 Magnum XL is installed in the car during every part of this review along with an MGW Shifter.
Mated to the transmission is the McLeod RST Twin Disk Clutch with 26 spline disks to accommodate the larger input shaft. A One-piece Dynotech Aluminium Driveshaft is also installed.
Car is also boosted and has 760 HP with a shit ton of suspension modifications.
I touch on the speedo box install to re-calibrate miles per hour. However, you don't need an Abbott Box or Dakota Box if you have a good tuner. Like Alex Flores at VMP or Ken Bjonnes at Palm Beach Dyno.
Tires in the video are Mickey Thompson Street SS.
Mods: VMP Supercharged Gen2 Stage2, Boost-A-Pump. Tremec T56 Magnum XL. Dynotech One-piece Driveshaft. Cortex Racing Torque Arm and Cortex Racing Watts Link. MGW Shifter. Steeda Springs. Steeda Torque Box Brace (welded) in. Steeda S197 Rear Spoiler. Koni Shocks/Struts. Steeda X11 Ball Joints and Bump Steer Kit. McLeod RST Clutch. Eaton TruTrac Differential. Sparco Chrono Seats. APR Front Splitter.
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2014 Mustang GT Downforce
Supercharged 5.0
Boosted Coyote Motor
760 HP
McLeod RST Twin Disk
Tremec T56 Magnum XL with 26 Spline Clutch
Music: DJ Chronic - Feel the Bass mix
Back in 1998-2002 the T-56 came in the old Camaro’s making an under rated 300 hp. When I did heads in cam in mine, I went to 3.90’s. It made 420 rwhp but not major hp. The T-56 is a tank and even if you gotta go 4.10’s it’s worth it!
Just finished my magnum swap and it feels great
13SS LOL I just went with a 6060 and used a Dakota digital box for the speedo conversion, have cruise in 1st through 4th but not 5th and 6th so it's a bit of a pain in the ass.
Girth Vader Yeah I don't have it in 6th, haven't tried any other gear but I'm not concerned if that's the only negative the positive far out weigh it.
From my experience, the problems with lock out can be attributed to the clutch more than anything else.
I agree. However, I still had lockout after I installed the McLeod RST. It wasn't near as bad, but it was still present at 7k and up shifts. It went away with the Barton and the trans mount insert.
Christopher Lee Hey what company did you buy T56magnum complete kit from. Sliver State Transmission offers complete kit for conversion for around $5k plus. They have 36 month warranty and free shipping no tax. My pos MT82 broke for the 4th time and my dealer wont cover it again cause past warranty period. I run about 600wheel pump gas with 28in drag radials and 90/10 shocks up front. Ain't spending $2500 for MT82 rebuild when it will break again. My input shaft bearing, seal and 3rd gear synchro shot after only 2 years hard street driving.
@@maximusvonce1381 modern driveline
640 whp - VMP gen2 stage2 with a VMP heat exchanger and boost-a-pump.
maximus vonce stock bottom end. 82mm on 10lbs 93 with some Lucas octane booster. boost a pump.
maximus vonce Idk. even bone stock cars vary straight from the factory. fairly sizeable difference between 91 and 93.
I installed a t56 in my 2014 5.0 and when I hit 100+ the transmission vibrates like crazy and idea what it could be? Been seeing it could be a drive shaft issue???
Heard driveshaft shop balances at low speeds don’t know if that’s true
You look like you could be the guy from the dankwheelie video where he almost fights that guy at the gas station.
The clutch is the reason for the lockout not any shifter/mount issue.
Never had a lock out issue with mine even before i put in new shifter. Steeda shifter with bracket and stiff bushing, 7000 rpm shifts no lock out. Installing the trans brace bushing when it shows up as added security. Must be one of the lucky few that has no issues with the MT-82 although i will be getting the 2nd gear upgrade kit in the near future. Enjoy the Tremec bro, don't fuck it up 😁
The 2013-14 gt500 has the Tremec tr6060 with the 2:66 1st gear and its supercharged.
I liked the video man hard to find good detailed videos of the shit you need to know
tdogg9466 I'm getting ready to do a sparco seat review and a Steeda rear spoiler review.
2.97 1st gear in the T56 is nice matchup with 3:73 rears
Got the 2.97 for my gt350 and then leanred i had to swap my rear gear to a 4.56 to make the ratio good for my car
Now I don't have to find someone else with a T56 magnum and drive it since you confirmed the 1-2 clunk. Thank you.
You can also feel more heat coming through the shifter area with the T56. At least I do.
Christopher Lee I felt a crapload of heat with garbage mt82
I have the Barton post shifter and just had the Whiteline transmission mount bushing installed. I also have the McLeod RST clutch, all under 1000 miles and still experience lockout going into 3rd gear shifting at 3000 rpms during normal driving. It will go into 3rd gear under 2000 rpms though. Still have a stock MT-82 but thinking of upgrading to a Tremec or a Calimer MT-82.
Hey dude, I have a Magnum too with an RXT and sometimes I feel a little bit of a clunk when going into second at low RPM's. I noticed it right away, but it's improved over time somewhat. Do get a little bit of a clunk in the 1-2 shift at low rpm? Thanks!
100% Yeah, I have the low speed clunk when shifting from 1st to 2nd. I figured it's due to the direct mount shifter, and the one piece drive shaft. But I didn't have it with the MT82 even with a one piece driveshaft.
Doing a T56 Magnum XL swap on an EcoBoost mustang this week. MT-82 isn't bad, but the T56 sounds like it will handle what I'll be pushing through it better.
Bro you have a damn ecoboost... the regular MT82 will be able to handle far more than what you're going to be pushing in your eco.... if thats the reason you are switching transmissions, you are just completely wasting money... that is not the main reason you are going for a Tremec
@@philvillafana2584might have a built engine and not trying to get lockout and have to pull the mt shitty 2 out again
@@chicknnoodlesouuu2150 even if he did build his little Ecoboosts, that MT82 is still going to be able to handle it..plus far more. They can handle boosted 5.0s no problem for a long time. Only reason they fail is from the people who don't know how to drive
Ordering the kit from jpc racing in the morning. The mt82 blows. Did you order the kit or piece it together?
My 14 mt82 just blew 3rd after 60k miles and tons of spirited driving with a Paxton set up on her for a while. Was debating on what I should do next... hows the gearing in 6th compared to mt82?
6th feels similar to the mt82. But it's harder to tell with boost. I was n/a with the mt82
Went 3.73 s with my t56 2.97. Feels soooooo much better. Way quicker. I have 275/60/15 MT.
You boosted?
The Magnum XL is not a T56. It’s a modified TR6060 from Tremec.
True, it's not a T56. However, that's the aftermarket marketing used by many dealers. Tremec is trying to get away from calling it a T56, but that's what most people know it as. Even though it's not technically correct. But there are big differences between the TR6060 and the Magnum XL.The important difference between the TR-6060 and the Magnum is the TR-6060 uses a remote shifter configuration like what we talked about earlier, to keep NVH (Noise, Vibration, and Harshness) concerns to a minimum for manufacturers. The TR-6060 also has an integral bellhousing, cast into the front of the transmission. The Magnum has a conventional bellhousing. The Magnum also uses a slip-yoke 31-spline tailshaft configuration, which is more desirable from a strength and weight standpoint. The TR-6060 uses a bolt on yoke.
Had a 2012 v6 and got beat everytime because of 2-3 3-4gears lockout looking to get a ecoboost 6 speed just really dislike the mt-82 now would it be dumb to put a tremec down the future or get a Camaro LT1
Beautiful Mustang.
I have 3:73's and a 2.9L whipple on e85, I have a twin disk ACT Clutch and Ford motorsport short throw ,im thinking this is my next upgrade...thanks for the vid!
btw 2.66 1st gear is a little better for higher speeds like roll racing, half mile, and highway stuff just cause 5th is a little closer to 4th where the 2.97 1st gear is more for 1/4 mile and stoplight to stop light racing, 1st through 4th is closer and is pretty nice for the strip but once you get to 5th its a pretty steep dropoff.
good videos!!! question: i noticed you have koni oranges.. how are they compared to stock? im debating yellows vs orange, but budget is a pretty big factor for me..
The difference is huge when you also switch out your springs. I'm on Steeda Sports. Orange for the street is plenty good enough in my opinion.
That third gear is WAYYYY too tall
Looks like a nice build going there. I see you upgraded to a Mcleod RST and wonder if you notice any difference in function? I hear the pedal feel with that particular clutch is very good. Are you running an aluminum bell housing or something like a QTP? Thanks for the review.
I actually did a review of the RST and it's on my channel. Yes, I have a QuickTime bell housing. It actually came with the kit from Modern Driveline.
After asking the question about the clutch I found your review. Thanks
No worries brother.
Richard Jones RST is a waste. I fried mine racing 600wheel viper. Get rxt.
@@maximusvonce1381 probably because you can't drive.
Just installed the 4.11's and it's a perfect match.
WarMachine5.0 Lol. I hear you bro
Happy new year bro
Better than the 3.73's??
Whats up brotha nice build, did you need a tune after install ?
How was the wiring mod to make the reverse light and lockout work on that 2014?
Where did you order your transmission through? Was it from tremec themselves or a vendor that sales them?
Let’s clarify right now. The mt82 can hold 700 reliably. The clutch is the problem. The braided clutch line don’t help, I have an MGW and that does not prevent lockout. It is not anything BESIDES the clutch. Clutch, clutch , clutch. Buy a mantic or rst clutch
I've got a mantic twin disc and have high rpm lockout.
Does this swap require tuning ?
lmao one of the best reviews i've seen man, kept me laughing the whole time lol.
Same length one piece drive shaft for both mt82 and tremec?
you have any issues with the XL ? I ask cause I swapped mine out and within 2 months 2nd gear synchro is crapping out .... seems a bit odd . Otherwise its great , you run the RXT ?
Same problem here. Only on downshifts. Fucking annoying
Y’all having any issues lol? Was about to put an XL in my car with the RST over from the mt82 with the different splined clutch plates. I honestly think you’re problem could be from that clutch... the RXT bites so hard and does not slip one bit it’s very hard on everything..
@@bobbyweymouth2493 so your saying a twin disc is too aggressive for a xl?
I don’t get much lockout with my mgw and rst and braided line
Holy shit u got back to me. Thanks man! Anyway... yeah, we have the same set up, 2.97 with 3.31 gears. I have a TVS on E85 making pretty good power. What I don't understand is why are there so many guys with blowers who go with the 2.66 magnum and then have to change their gears to 4.10s? Why didn't they get the 2.97?
They want all the RPM they can get through the traps in 4th and still want to hook first...
I know this is an old post, but in reply to you question. I have a twin turbo 850rwhp in a Boss with 3.73 gears, I just ordered a 2.66 T56. I'd rather change the gear in the back to bring the rpm up, in 1st gear than to have the 2.95 ratio 1st gear with the wider ratio gears to follow, or a 1-1 4th gear with a 3.23 rear gear. The 2.66 has closer ratio between 2-3-4th gears than the 2.95, making for less rpm drop between shifts. I believe the overdrive in both 2.66 and 2.95 are now with the higher ratio's, and are the same. Higher rear gear ratio with the 2.66 vs lower rear gear ratio with the 2.95, gives the 2.66 T56 more power(higher RPM) in 4th gear and the overdrive modes. I guess it's all down to preference, and how you plan to drive your car. Personally, I am not worried about rpm in 4th gear through Traps. My preference is for on the road drive-ability, especially if you have a power adder, for me the 2.66 with the correct gear in the back, will make the entire experience that much better. Either way the Freakn, Mt82, is like a truck trans with a granny gear.
What bell housing did you use?
This dude spittin facts
Which fog lights are those?
Doing the Lords work
Yolo is the man
He really is man. He works hard. I can't tell you how many tunes he's written in just weekend for me. I ran around on a base tune for almost two fucking months because Justin never responded to my data logs. Yolo saved the day.
#yolodouchbag
Music in the start of the video?
It's a DJ Chronic mix. I can't remember the tracks.
I'm planning on procharging my 3.7 Mustang later this year, my mt82 is starting to go to shit soon as it tends to stick in 4th gear, taking some effort to get out of it. Considering the cost of having the getrag rebuilt with upgraded internals, replacing the driveshaft and all the crap that comes along with handling 200hp over stock, is it more worthwhile to say fuck it, put a Magnum XL in it? The car is paid off anyways and I plan on keeping it for a long time so that may ease the price shock.
I'd talk to Ben Calimer first. According to Yolo, Calimer builds the fuck out of MT82 and Tremecs. Alex Flores aka Yolodouchebag is one of the few legit, knowledgeable Mustang guys on CZcams. I'd give the MT82 rebuild a shot before doing the Tremec. Don't get me wrong, I fucking love my trani. lol And sometimes full swaps become more expensive than you think.
Yeah I'm already expecting 6k for the trans swap and another several hundred for replacing rear gears, all before the cost of procharging.
$6k is probably real close to the final cost.
WarMachine5.0 I busted a calimer mt82 in less than 5k on an all motor cobra jet setup. Granted, the rxt is probably a big reason it died, same as breaking the 1st one, blew all the teeth off of 4th. He told me to get fucked when it came time to reach any kind of agreement or deal on replacing it.
joshnc101 . Mt82 is a pos and i already fried 4 of them in my 600wheel tvs 5.0. I run fat mickeys out back with 90/10's up front so car hits tires like a raped ape every stop light. My Transmission guy said dont waste a penny on rebuilding mt82 cause its a pos and will fail again which means i will have wasted $2500 on MT82 R&R instead of putting that into T56magnum XL. Mt82 rated 380crank torque, so anything over 350wheel torque means Trans is on borrowed time. Now mind you my car is set up like a drag car on the street and i drive daily. I am putting T56magnum complete kit from Sliver State Transmission this week. They have 36 month warranty and free shipping this month. Best deal on internet. Kit runs about $5-6-k depending on options. Mt82 has been a nightmare for me. My car needs T56magnum bad
Rxt clutch is the killer of the my82
For racing purposes you switched from a 5-Speed to a 4-Speed though.
Thats true, but in 18+ cars 5th and 6th are both overdrive anyway.
You don't need the speedo box if your tuner knows what they're doing btw.
Yeah I know. Yolo could have tuned it without the box. But, he wasn't tuning my car until a couple months after I did the trans swap. Eric at HP knows how to tune for speedo without to the box too.
noldevin if you want cruise control you need the box. The abbot box however is very inconsistent and fairly expensive. The Dakota Digital box is a better choice, although I have cruise in 1st-4th but not 5th and 6th but I'm working with Dakota Digital on getting that figured out.
Did you ever have any problems with the mt82? I keep hearing there’s a lawsuit happening right now about it. I’ve had weird vibrations in mine but nothing catastrophic
what rear end gears you suggest on a boss 302 stock with the tremec 2.97
I wouldn't go any taller than 3.73. That might be too tall though, depending on what you're doing with the car.
But It will be slower then the mt82 with the 3.73 correct?
on the bottom end for sure. You prob want to drop down to 4.10s even.
took too long to get to the point and the language was unnecessary; especially on Easter. I had to bail.
you better not have been in the fast lane when that Kia Sorrento "wanted to race you" 8:35
Lol. You're a funny dude brother, I'll give you a shout if I have questions with mine.
Lol, thanks man! Yeah, hit me up anytime if you have questions.
mt82 is rated at 600hp. the stock clutch will fail before the trans.. thats the way its designed. clutches are wayy cheaper than transmissions.
Torque and driveline shock destroy components, horsepower is much more insignificant. That said, memory tells me the MT82 is only rated for something like 383 ft/lbs, it's already under-matched for stock 5.0 power. Go easy on launches, don't use sticky tires, don't add significant power, don't install an aggressive clutch, match your revs well, and the MT82 will last awhile.
Matt dude, 100% stay away from the RXT. Don't dump the clutch. Rev match.
fernandizo no, it's not. but it can handle that power.
WarMachine5.0
so I'm confused, are you saying Getrag is incorrect in their assessment on torque for their transmission?
yes, it will take some abuse, but all mentioned above are guaranteed ways of the MT82 meeting fate.
Matt there are guys running 650hp 5.0 on the Mt82 on the forums (thats more than I would think to put on that trans). and they havent broken it yet.. I think the issues is with power shifters. If you rev match your gonna be good 90% of the time. I have a 15 GT pushing 450hp to the wheels on intake throttle body headers exhaust and tune on 93octane and ive had 0 issues. and I drive that shit pretty hard.
this was absolutely hilarious lol
I thinks it's the crappy clutch . My buddy changed his clutch and there's no more lock out at 7k rpm. I wouldn't dare power shift my mt82. It would break so easy. The shift forks are very weak.
The new ones are even worse. Yolo blew his second gear shift fork on camera in his 2018. WTF
Around how much whp and what power adder do you have?
640WHP
Mt82 is also double O/D. That's how 5.0's avoided a gas guzzler tax
5th gear is 1:1 and 6th is overdrive. The T56 Magnum XL is double overdrive. 4th is 1:1.
Its "hawt like son bitch" haha
Miss a gear, guy?
No
you're a funny dude, awesome review and beautiful car
Travis Whited thanks dude.
Intro music sucks. Visit www.AMPDistributing.com for MT82 and Tremec T56 Magnum parts.
I don't understand vloggers. I waited through two minutes of obnoxious music and just...BS...with no meaningful content....before I gave up and turned it off. Do you think viewers WANT to have their time wasted with a low signal/noise ratio? Not just this channel....many many CZcamsrs do the same. I don't get it.
Well if the person is likable it can be entertaining but this guy is just a fucking douche bag so it's actually painful and cringey to watch.
Changing gears tooo fast
I agree with you the T 56 magnum XL has long throws. These guys like Yolo and others who say otherwise are full of shit.
Jabroni.
music sucks
WarMachine5.0 if you can't take people comments maybe you need to stop posting public videos fat bitch.
If you're taking risks in life, you're going to get haters. I thought you were being funny so I was being funny back. I feel bad for you now poopy bear. R stands for Ratchet. And you are Thee Ratchet!!!
WarMachine5.0 lol fat guy upset 😁😁😁
I realize you have a thing for big guys but I only date hot WOMEN. Don't worry, I think they have dating sites just for little boys like you that like big hairy men. I don't judge. Go live your life with your dream man and be happy.
why curse and use the name of christ…
turn the friging music down
why not turn it up
WarMachine5.0, Because it's too god damn loud!! Turn it down fatty...
Blah blah blah. Are you going to say something?
Do I even want to ask what kind of gas mileage you get? LOL
Super awesome gas mileage. Similar to a Prius