10 times F1 'old boys' showed they weren't past it

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
  • Formula 1 is a young person's game - or is it? Plenty of big name drivers have proven over the years they could still cut it at an older age, and in 2021 Fernando Alonso will turn 40 during his comeback season with Renault. Perhaps his achievements will get him added to a future version of this list, but for now take a look at the best performances from drivers approaching, or already past, their 40th birthdays. Who did we miss? Let us know!
    READ MORE HERE
    Hamilton and Raikkonen dismiss Alonso's age: the-race.com/formula-1/hamilt...
    Subscribe: the-race.com/youtube_subscribe
    Website: the-race.com/
    Twitter: / wearetherace
    Instagram: / wearetherace
    Facebook: / wearetherace
    Podcasts: the-race.com/podcasts
    Thanks for watching - please like, share and comment, please also hit subscribe to show your support so we'll keep doing what we're doing.
    #Formula1
    www.the-race.com
    / wearetherace
  • Sport

Komentáře • 530

  • @binoy.bimbisaran
    @binoy.bimbisaran Před 3 lety +651

    Kimi Raikkonen, the oldest driver in the grid set the Fastest Lap in the History of F1.

    • @patricktho6546
      @patricktho6546 Před 3 lety +6

      @@geert574 well in 5 Weeks?

    • @Halbi1987
      @Halbi1987 Před 3 lety +21

      and he will be the first F1 champion over 50 some time in the future :-)

    • @zacharywhite211
      @zacharywhite211 Před 3 lety +10

      Yeah but he's mediocre. Any other of those guys on this list would have also been winning races while Raikkonen struggled to finish on the podium. It's crazy that Vettel won 14 races during his years with Kimi, and Kimi won 1 race

    • @matthewferguson6001
      @matthewferguson6001 Před 3 lety +33

      @@zacharywhite211 Kimi played second fiddle to Seb the majority of his time there

    • @zacharywhite211
      @zacharywhite211 Před 3 lety +5

      @@matthewferguson6001 he was not hired for that role. He wasn't paid as a second fiddler either. He just became one through his own declining performance.

  • @Squexmeister
    @Squexmeister Před 3 lety +442

    Kimi is king!
    No "best fans" or "grazie ragazzi"... Just "Finally!"
    🤣

    • @strangejuice3686
      @strangejuice3686 Před 3 lety +13

      what's wrong with "grazie ragazzi"?

    • @wahhend
      @wahhend Před 3 lety +28

      Nothing wrong
      We just love kimi being kimi

    • @D3HuC
      @D3HuC Před 3 lety +52

      “F*cking finally” actually

    • @Euclides287
      @Euclides287 Před 3 lety

      Can't remember the last time Hamilton ever said "best fans."
      That meme is kinda dead when the person has stopped saying it for years. 😕

    • @anitanzeyimana6768
      @anitanzeyimana6768 Před 3 lety +10

      @@Euclides287 he normally says it on the track parades

  • @SiVlog1989
    @SiVlog1989 Před 3 lety +478

    Fangio was still winning races and titles in his 40's, indeed, he was 46 when he won his fifth and final title in 1957

    • @aboredperson4202
      @aboredperson4202 Před 3 lety +51

      Well tbh 40 then was like early-30s people races in their early 50s.

    • @darchandarchan7036
      @darchandarchan7036 Před 3 lety +21

      it was normal back in the day and

    • @SiVlog1989
      @SiVlog1989 Před 3 lety +17

      @@aboredperson4202 and yet by the end of the decade, Bruce McLaren set a record that stood until 2003 (when Fernando Alonso won the Hungarian Grand Prix that year). The youngest driver to win a Grand Prix, aged just 22 years 3 months and 12 days

    • @kevinhanandi
      @kevinhanandi Před 3 lety +7

      It summed perfectly by pedro de la rosa in beyond the grid podcast that people will start race in f1 younger but also retired from it younger as well due to burnout

    • @sbow2892
      @sbow2892 Před 3 lety +14

      "F1" in 50s has nothing to do with F1 today. Not really relevant to compare those days vs. today.

  • @infinityeight8705
    @infinityeight8705 Před 3 lety +17

    Nigel Mansell's feat of 'finally' winning the F1 world championship and then the indycar championship back to back is massively under appreciated - and like you said he not only held both titles at the same time he also came back to F1 and won!
    All this when he was around the age of 40!

    • @TboneI989
      @TboneI989 Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah, very impressive. Also Jacques Villenueve, won the indy 500, indycar championship and f1 wdc between 1996 and 1997. Crazy to think how far he dropped after that explosive start. He had the speed but it seems like he lost interest after his world championship.

    • @paulallen8109
      @paulallen8109 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TboneI989 The real culprit was his manager Craig Pollock who fed him with a lot of BS and empty promises. After Pollock managed to negotiate a huge salary for Villeneuve by driving for BAR he also was like an overprotective father of Villeneuve's essentially giving him whatever he wanted and what he wanted to hear. Many insisted Villeneuve to get rid of Pollock because it was clear as day he was utterly unsuited to be team principal of BAR.
      Villeneuve himself showed great spirit in 1998-2001 and in the Spanish GP 1999 he was a good third for the first 21 laps of the race - more importantly he held Schumacher in the Ferrari behind in 4th during all those laps.
      His fall came when Jenson Button became his team mate in 2003 and did better with the same car. By this time Pollock had been axed as team principal and Villeneuve realized he had been "sheltered" by him.
      Some top teams like McLaren and Renault actually offered him a drive in 1999 and 2001 but he believed BAR was the place he's future would be shaped at. Ironically he was right...
      Williams also wanted to keep Villeneuve for 1999 and 2000 but he believed they payed him peanuts and hence went for BAR and the money....
      By 2003 a promising new batch of young drivers like Kimi Raikkonen and Fernando Alonso emerged as did the highly competitive Juan-Pablo Montoya. Villeneuve became a less enticing driver to sign for any top team and since Jenson Button - at the time yet not a race winner and not too highly regarded - regularly beat him nobody was that interested in Villeneuve by 2004 so his last years were spent driving the BMW Sauber.
      Had Villeneuve signed for McLaren in 1999 or Renault in 2001 he'd win more races and his career would be right back on track. Unfortunately his manager Craig Pollock pretty much was what "Colonel" Parker had been to Elvis Presley. "Leave it all to me and I'll make you rich and famous."
      Williams massive downturn in performance in 1998 was also one of the reasons. The car was nowhere near the level of the McLarens and Ferraris so he felt he was wasting his time there.

    • @eggselent9814
      @eggselent9814 Před 2 lety +1

      I think Mansell is very overrated tbh. He was super fast, yes but horrifically inconsistent. Like HORRIFICALLY. He was clearly the favourite driver out of the two at Williams in 1986 and 1987. Especially in 1987, he won 6 races compared to Piquet's three, but Piquet still won the title because Mansell couldn't finish his races. Same goes for his title run in 1991. And even when he won that title in 1992, his car was so brutally overpowered, but he still got two wins gifted to him by team mate Patrese (who was clearly not as good as him), and lost at least two races he should've won. And also don't forget the complete beating he took as Prost's team mate at Ferrari in 1990. Prost was new to the team and completely kicked Mansell's ass.

  • @hooligan1017
    @hooligan1017 Před 3 lety +252

    Kimi that same year set the fastest lap in F1 history so technically Kimi is the fastest man in F1 history

    • @thememers_dude
      @thememers_dude Před 3 lety +7

      Technically he was in the fastest car

    • @NHR_Music
      @NHR_Music Před 3 lety +33

      @@thememers_dude That doesn't matter in this case. It's more of a joke mate

    • @RandomGuy37
      @RandomGuy37 Před 3 lety +36

      Fun fact: That record was held by another Finn, Keke Rosberg for over 20 years until Juan Pablo Montoya broke it in 2004. We could even say that Kimi stole that record back to Finns.

    • @binoy.bimbisaran
      @binoy.bimbisaran Před 3 lety +11

      @@thememers_dude You have to be in the fast car to put in a fastest lap. It's quite clear from the name.

    • @georgejakob1451
      @georgejakob1451 Před 3 lety +1

      @@thememers_dude No **** sherlock.

  • @taylorerikbrophy8882
    @taylorerikbrophy8882 Před 3 lety +94

    Kimi, my racing hero.

    • @optimus8387
      @optimus8387 Před 3 lety

      Kimi raikkonen the 3 era engine F1 driver

  • @petermorley-smith9963
    @petermorley-smith9963 Před 3 lety +206

    Good heavens, you've missed "el maestro". Juan Manuel Fangio, probably the greatest driver of all time, was 39 when he STARTED his F1 career!. He continued for seven years, winning 5 world championships in 4 different teams (Alfa Romeo, Ferrari, Mercedes-Benz and Maserati) before retiring in 1957. He should be the most significant driver on this list.

    • @sergeantsupreme4395
      @sergeantsupreme4395 Před 3 lety +9

      A lot of people did that. I'm pretty sure Louis Chiron won a GP in his 50s

    • @sbow2892
      @sbow2892 Před 3 lety +38

      Being 39 year old driver back then was totally different thing than being 39 now and sitting in an F1 starting grid. F1 back then has nothing to do with F1 today and what happened back then shoudn't be compared to modern day in any way. Claiming that Fangio was "the greatest driver of all time" is like comparing a truck driver and a rally driver.

    • @Roguescienceguy
      @Roguescienceguy Před 3 lety +7

      We also have to admit that the talentpool back then was waaaaay smaller. It only became a more or less global sport in the late 90s. I am pretty okey with saying that you had three eras in F1 that aren't comparable at all.

    • @brutalnyas5639
      @brutalnyas5639 Před 3 lety +2

      @@sbow2892 shut up

    • @areebsiddiqui758
      @areebsiddiqui758 Před 3 lety +6

      lol F1 back then was a hobby for rich middle aged blokes. Most drivers were in their 40s. There were close to no physical fitness requirements which is the stark opposite to modern day F1.

  • @fujiwara_4205
    @fujiwara_4205 Před 3 lety +42

    Most drivers before the late 90's were in their 30's when they started in F1, this era can't be compared to then since most drivers now aren't even out of their 20's.

    • @WeAreTheRace
      @WeAreTheRace  Před 3 lety +6

      Interesting point tbh - making us all feel old!

    • @fujiwara_4205
      @fujiwara_4205 Před 3 lety +2

      @@WeAreTheRace That wasn't my intention, lol, sorry.

    • @sherlock_norris
      @sherlock_norris Před 3 lety +5

      Not to think about the fact that some aren't even *in* their 20s when they start. Today's era is crazy young.

    • @Nefus1988
      @Nefus1988 Před 3 lety

      Since Max Verstappen entered F1 2015 aged 17 there was a huge push for teenagers in F1

    • @gorkab8461
      @gorkab8461 Před 3 lety

      As far as I know all the greats of the 1980s started in their 20s.

  • @torraslive
    @torraslive Před 3 lety +38

    1:50 first Williams' victory in 1979 and Kimi was already there taking a 3rd place that day.

    • @Jaco_Schutte
      @Jaco_Schutte Před 3 lety +4

      Say what now? EDIT: Never mind , I see it now. Wow, amazing resemblance! It's a young Rene Arnoux.

    • @torraslive
      @torraslive Před 3 lety +3

      @@Jaco_Schutte lol yeah, just a little bit more expressive than nowadays though.

    • @outhdare
      @outhdare Před 3 lety +1

      Arnoux :) Good guy of F1. Just as many in his generation.

    • @rockaway0beach
      @rockaway0beach Před 3 lety

      I don't know what happened between then and now, but that is some smiling Kimi right there

  • @VikingGuard
    @VikingGuard Před 3 lety +62

    I think Alonso will be the next driver to win a race after 40 years of age.

  • @phillipasalisbury7570
    @phillipasalisbury7570 Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you so so much for a trip down memory lane.the memories of watching these fabulous driver's is priceless.

  • @EnjoyTheSilenc3
    @EnjoyTheSilenc3 Před 3 lety +12

    Kimi shows us every day he still got it 🥰

  • @hidenorif9440
    @hidenorif9440 Před 3 lety +30

    Prost, Piquet, Mansell and Senna...the GOLDEN ERA of F1.

    • @eamonahern7495
      @eamonahern7495 Před 3 lety +4

      The 60s had Stirling Moss (for a while) Jack Brabham, Graham Hill, Jim Clark, Jackie Stewart (for the latter half of the decade) as well as Phil Hill, John Surtees (only man to be world champion in the top tiers of both motorbikes and single seater racing cars) as well as World champion Denny Hulme and his buddy from New Zealand - a certain Bruce McLaren. So older generations might argue the 60s was the golden era.

    • @hidenorif9440
      @hidenorif9440 Před 3 lety +2

      ​@@eamonahern7495 I was born in 1972, so let me correct my statement. Prost, Piquet, Mansell and Senna...the GOLDEN ERA of F1 for me.

    • @eamonahern7495
      @eamonahern7495 Před 3 lety +1

      @@hidenorif9440 I was born in 1975 but we didn't get live races on Irish TV until 1995 so I missed that golden era.

    • @amjan
      @amjan Před 3 lety

      @@eamonahern7495 I was born in '83 and started following F1 in 1992 and I totally bow down to you arguments! I think the 60's, the 70's and the 80's each were golden eras in their own right.
      The 60's were the most romantic and chivalric, the early 70's the most flamboyant, crazy and dangerous, the mid 80's the most extreme, turbulent and exciting. And then there were the early 90's, mature and sophisticated, but everything came crushing down at Imola '94...

  • @NyaNekoGTR
    @NyaNekoGTR Před 3 lety

    such a well rresearched video, especially enjoying all the historic photographs, just beautiful.

  • @pedropohren
    @pedropohren Před 3 lety +11

    How in the world does this list not have Lauda's return after quitting F1 for 2 years to snatch the '84 title from Prost for half a point????

    • @mikhailfernandez24
      @mikhailfernandez24 Před 3 lety +1

      I agree, but he wasn't that old tho

    • @pedropohren
      @pedropohren Před 3 lety +1

      @@mikhailfernandez24 So weren't Prost or Schumi. As far as i can tell the criteria was: F1 drivers that quit the category and returned years later, delivering good results or not.

    • @mikhailfernandez24
      @mikhailfernandez24 Před 3 lety +1

      @@pedropohren Fair enough

  • @parazodgaming9493
    @parazodgaming9493 Před 3 lety +2

    Fernando Alonso is gonna be 4 decades old. No matter how much you hate this man for not giving newcomers a chance, you still have to admit this man made the most of whatever car he was given. Truly blessed to watch him race 🙌🙌

    • @Parazod
      @Parazod Před 3 lety +1

      I have to agree with you. Man is a gem

  • @delbroox
    @delbroox Před 3 lety +31

    Kinda overlook the fact that 40 year old F1 Driver today, is way different than 40 year old F1 driver say 20 years ago...

    • @Roguescienceguy
      @Roguescienceguy Před 3 lety +1

      Well yes, it was way more fysically demanding and they didn't have the tools available to keep a man fit well in his fourties. So yes, now it's much more doable. I am not going to say easier but doable...

    • @delbroox
      @delbroox Před 3 lety +2

      @@Roguescienceguy true, but there's also so much more competition. And that's why in my opinion it will become kinda harder to see stuff like Mansell or Prost case happening in the future

    • @Athrun82
      @Athrun82 Před 3 lety +4

      Well you have to admit that F1 drivers actually got YOUNGER as formula 1 developed. In the 50's the drivers were usually quite old (the oldest driver ever was I think a 53 year old) and with the cars getting more demanding the drivers got younger and younger.

    • @MacGillaZ
      @MacGillaZ Před 3 lety

      So what does that day for a driver who helped design, build and race a car bearing his own name into his 40s when F1 was at its most dangerous? I would say Jack Brabham and his compatriots of the time would love to race in an age where driver's deaths wasn't a surprise and considered almost par for course. Where staying fit was more a challenge than staying alive ...

    • @delbroox
      @delbroox Před 3 lety

      @@Athrun82 exactly

  • @bigslydoc
    @bigslydoc Před 3 lety +43

    I wouldn’t put it past Alonso to get a podium next year in a crazy race, say in a similar situation to what happened in Brazil last year or the first Austrian race this year.

    • @dimasachmad8417
      @dimasachmad8417 Před 3 lety +1

      Yep, I dont think he will get a win on 2021 too.
      But again, he's already gambled on the new regs. Just like his suggestion to Renault to "ditch 2021 and focus on 2020".

    • @LimitPro1
      @LimitPro1 Před 3 lety +1

      @@dimasachmad8417 "2022"

    • @richboy900
      @richboy900 Před 3 lety +1

      As good as alonso is, I seriously doubt he'll see the podium in that renault

    • @rumblefish9
      @rumblefish9 Před 3 lety

      @@richboy900 Who knows. Lotus could surprise people in 2022 or even 2021.

    • @potatopants4691
      @potatopants4691 Před 3 lety

      @@richboy900 Never say never. A month since you posted this comment, an Alpha Tauri won a race...

  • @MastaMS21
    @MastaMS21 Před 3 lety +1

    4:26 : Jacques Laffite is one of the most underrated drivers of the ground effect/ turbo era. His victory at Montreal 81 under heavy rain was a masterpiece and he almost won Detroit 86 at 43 years old on a Ligier. That's something.

  • @darrylkelly7958
    @darrylkelly7958 Před 3 lety +63

    The Only way an over 40 will win again is if Mansell makes a comeback...

    • @JakobusVdL
      @JakobusVdL Před 3 lety

      LOL! That would be great, as long as he isn't allowed to give an interview afterwards ;-)

    • @mitchellbaker4847
      @mitchellbaker4847 Před 3 lety

      Mika Hakkinen comes back from sabbatical.

    • @senorsoupe
      @senorsoupe Před 3 lety

      I don't think Nige has ever formally announced his retirement, just sayin'

  • @will4may175
    @will4may175 Před 3 lety +3

    I watched Mansells career in Indycar (aswell as his F1), and some of the things he did with that car over the season to win it was awesome to watch, his 2nd season there didnt go well at all, and the huge back breaker crash didnt help.

  • @johnbouttell5827
    @johnbouttell5827 Před 3 lety +36

    As 50 is the new 40, we could see a 50-year-old driver win the world championship. Kimi could do it -- in a decent car.

  • @sxt_shender5433
    @sxt_shender5433 Před 3 lety +1

    Nice video keep up!

  • @DimZ_F1
    @DimZ_F1 Před 3 lety +1

    Since Alonso is returning to F1, i think that in 2022 he'll become the next 40+ podium finisher and even a winner.
    Nigel Mansell was always one of my favourites. He managed a pole and win during '94 and a year later he was dumped because he couldn't fit in his McLaren. Legend!

  • @artadhyay5462
    @artadhyay5462 Před 3 lety +7

    Kimi can do it again. He just needs some luck and a decent enough car.

  • @Roguescienceguy
    @Roguescienceguy Před 3 lety +5

    If they give Alonso a more or less descent car and some of the protagonists run into trouble he could be the next on that list.

  • @rogerj412
    @rogerj412 Před 3 lety +41

    Probably won't happen again until Lewis turns 40 and is still kicking everyone's ass.

    • @ryanwaugh1
      @ryanwaugh1 Před 3 lety +8

      Roger J as long as he keeps driving that Merc he will

    • @rodriguezracer4567
      @rodriguezracer4567 Před 3 lety +2

      @@ryanwaugh1 I dunno, I believe its more than the car.

    • @ryanwaugh1
      @ryanwaugh1 Před 3 lety

      RodriguezRacer 456 that was my point

    • @mrbump28
      @mrbump28 Před 3 lety +1

      @@rodriguezracer4567 Those Mercs are pretty unbeatable over a season and theres a pretty average driver in the No2 seat. Kinda difficult to gauge if/by how far Lewis is the best right now.

    • @mypenishuge3499
      @mypenishuge3499 Před 3 lety

      mrbump28 yeah, personally I believe he is the best Rn. But that is simply do because being able to hone his skills in the merc. That guy has and won’t ever win in the best car

  • @arnoldmbuthia2687
    @arnoldmbuthia2687 Před 3 lety +2

    You forget these are interesting times... There's more than one or two stellar drivers on the grid. In the beginning of their prime, and some well in their prime.

  • @vedranpevec4483
    @vedranpevec4483 Před 3 lety +5

    And then people say how Nico Hulkenberg was a great driver. He was overrated, didn't score a podium, he had capable cars in his career to manage that.
    Even Grosjean scored some podiums, that says it all for Nico.

    • @Holeecrab
      @Holeecrab Před 3 lety

      Grosjean was undoubtly the 2nd best driver in 2013. From everyone he's the only one who able to snatch podium behind Red Bull and it says something

    • @richboy900
      @richboy900 Před 3 lety +1

      Remember watching Hulkenberg in the junior categories. He had talent and looked promising. Underachieved in f1 for sure

  • @arjunkapoor2121
    @arjunkapoor2121 Před 3 lety +65

    Mercadies In a nutshell:the other driver will always be overshadowed by the world champion

    • @swapnilnayak2449
      @swapnilnayak2449 Před 3 lety +3

      Sad Rosberg and Bottas noises!

    • @richieb1990
      @richieb1990 Před 3 lety +5

      Mercedes * Schumacher couldn’t win in the modern era because of new F1 rules stating you can’t wipe out other drivers or stop on the apex to secure yourself wins. Talentless goon that drove dirty that’s all he was

    • @NHR_Music
      @NHR_Music Před 3 lety +5

      @account removed due to controversial comments Nothing you said makes any sense. It's like you're talking about some sort of a conspiracy.
      And besides that. Nothing you can discredit any of Lewis' achievements. He's won in every season that he's taken part in, even if he didn't have the best car at times. He's won championships from huge talents such as Massa, Rosberg, Vettel & Bottas. Even if you have the best car, you still need to be the best driver in that team to win it. And Schumacher also won titles in the best cars mate. Ferrari in 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 & 2004. Hell, even Benneton was the best.

    • @DidierPeroni
      @DidierPeroni Před 3 lety +4

      @account removed due to controversial comments really going to discount Schumis dirty tactics? Did you even watch him race, or are you just stat junkie looking for a fight in the comment section

    • @fakenamecrywckiddies9751
      @fakenamecrywckiddies9751 Před 3 lety +1

      you know your not a true f1 fan if you dont know how Schumacher drove

  • @DaniMacYo
    @DaniMacYo Před 3 lety +4

    Schumacher! Miss Ya Michael, Keep Fighting Champ!!

  • @NHR_Music
    @NHR_Music Před 3 lety +1

    Could you guys do a video on teams who had a championship campaign that they ultimately lost to their rivals towards the end of the season?
    Like Ferrari in 2017 or McLaren in 2007

  • @adamigo1000
    @adamigo1000 Před 3 lety +2

    What a great material as always!

  • @jordanprice9285
    @jordanprice9285 Před 3 lety +3

    I'm honestly not surprised since just because men don't have the same agility, energy or speed maybe like they used to when they were young.. But usually 40 is like the start of men's peak of our primes!! Hahaha good video

  • @8-bitsteve500
    @8-bitsteve500 Před 3 lety +4

    JYS should have a comeback season and show them all how to drive. ;)

  • @haardpatel2587
    @haardpatel2587 Před 3 lety +17

    Plot twist: Kimi only won cause he was promised his drink.

  • @itzlando130
    @itzlando130 Před 3 lety +1

    An oldie but a goodie.

  • @damarfadlan9251
    @damarfadlan9251 Před 3 lety +1

    I still remember Michael Schumacher's painful comeback in 2012. That year he also has 5 DNQs 😔😔

  • @uhugvjkbkjh
    @uhugvjkbkjh Před 3 lety +4

    Schumacher took too long a break. He had lost the reactions and cd never quite get them back.
    Hamilton I think can go on beyond 40.. He still looks so young

  • @OggaDugga
    @OggaDugga Před 3 lety

    Sega went crazy with the decals on the Williams. Sonics feet still 4:20 lol

  • @alexjohnward
    @alexjohnward Před 3 lety +2

    no mention of Jack Brabham with his walking frame?

  • @cryptical2548
    @cryptical2548 Před 3 lety

    Kubica is worth a mention. The man survived a very bad rally accident, years of recovery to come back to Williams, which Williams didnt even take seriously. Now, In alfa and starting in DTM.

  • @Humanspectrum
    @Humanspectrum Před 3 lety

    I think you missed Gerhard Berger's magnificent race win in Germany (Hockenheim) in 1997. He was 37 at that time. Also, Wikipedia tells me that Italian F1 ace Luigi Fagioli won the French GP in 1951 aged 53

  • @Shundi12
    @Shundi12 Před 3 lety

    That 1980 Ensign car looks gorgeous!

  • @johannesleppitt4329
    @johannesleppitt4329 Před 3 lety +2

    Carlos Reutemann didn't leave for no reason. He left because of the Falkands War. He didn't want to be an Argentine driving for a British team. So he retired. Without the war he would have probably finished the season.

    • @tucoramirez4558
      @tucoramirez4558 Před 3 lety

      Yes, while Reutemann never specifically stated it he's last race with Williams was on the 21st of March 1982. The Falklands War started on the 2nd of April 1982. The third race of the 1982 season was on the 4th of April 1982. Mario Andretti was hastily called in as a spare driver for Williams at the Long Beach GP. For the rest of the 1982 season Williams hired Derek Daly as driver alongside Keke Rosberg.
      Mario Andretti being called in as a "last minute replacement" and the beginning of the Falklands War certainly would be an incredible coincidence. Reutemann was already involved with Argentine politics at this stage so I have a feeling he didn't want to become "unpopular" back home by "driving for the enemy". At this stage nobody knew how long this conflict could be (it turned out to be short). His retirement certainly came on a short notice forcing Williams to approach Andretti - who at this time had left F1 and was fully committed to Indycars.
      Some claim he retired because he felt "unmotivated". He finished a good 2nd in the South African GP, qualified just behind Keke Rosberg and lapped faster. At the Brazilian GP he qualified a good 6th and was faster than his 1981 rival Nelson Piquet. He tailed Prost's turbo Renault and was ahead of Lauda for most of the race before his retirement on lap 21.
      Doesn't appear as if he was particularly "unmotivated" in the first two races of 1982.
      And his 3rd place at the 1985 Argentinian Rally (in the Group B era no less) proved he was far from "tired".

  • @jamesdoesanimations9208
    @jamesdoesanimations9208 Před 3 lety +1

    Nothing better than seeing the older drivers still have it.

  • @JK7kaye
    @JK7kaye Před 3 lety +3

    How ironic for Mansell, a man plauged by bad luck his entire career, in his final race finishes it with some brilliant luck.

    • @whythefuckisthishere
      @whythefuckisthishere Před 3 lety

      He DNFed in his last race.

    • @Formula1Madx
      @Formula1Madx Před 3 lety

      Nigel Mansells last race was the 1995 Spanish Grand Prix when he was driving for McLaren. He retired the car after 18 laps due to the poor handling of the car.

    • @JK7kaye
      @JK7kaye Před 3 lety

      @@Formula1Madx well shit I guess thats a more true ending to Mansells career

    • @tucoramirez4558
      @tucoramirez4558 Před 3 lety +2

      @@JK7kaye The 1995 McLaren was awful. It nearly killed Mika Hakkinen too in Adelaide. Twitchy, unpredictable and unreliable. Had the McLaren been competitive in 1995 I have a feeling we'd see a very different Mansell.

    • @JK7kaye
      @JK7kaye Před 3 lety

      @@tucoramirez4558 worse than Mclaren Peugot?

  • @NicotineRosberg
    @NicotineRosberg Před 3 lety +2

    The old lion himself- Nigel Mansell !

  • @i8ittoo
    @i8ittoo Před 3 lety +8

    Kimi will get resigned at Ferrari in 3 yrs, and by then maybe they will have a good car again. And he will get a final win at the last race of the season, and then retire. Lol

    • @jeremyj.5687
      @jeremyj.5687 Před 3 lety

      I just made a reminder in my Google Calendar for today in 3 years. I'll be checking whether you were correct, depend on it. YUGE pick if true.

  • @DrtyALGreen
    @DrtyALGreen Před 3 lety +1

    I love that Williams livery with the Sonic the hedgehog feet x-ray view.

  • @Dan4096
    @Dan4096 Před 3 lety

    Should have mentioned Kimi's pole in Monza 2018 too

  • @naufalthirafi3876
    @naufalthirafi3876 Před 3 lety

    I like how you put Kimi on number seven since that's also his racing number

  • @gchampi2
    @gchampi2 Před 3 lety +1

    No Fangio? He was 40 when he won his first World Championship, 47 when he won his fifth...

  • @JP-gb3mq
    @JP-gb3mq Před 3 lety +1

    Enjoyed that

  • @whassupg89
    @whassupg89 Před 3 lety +1

    A lot of world championships in this list!

  • @ryanwatterson4038
    @ryanwatterson4038 Před 3 lety +3

    Mansell was a machine

  • @RaiderRich2001
    @RaiderRich2001 Před 3 lety

    Could happen this weekend at the Nurburgring if it's a wet, attritional race and Kimi Raikkonen manages to avoid all the carnage.

  • @official_9101
    @official_9101 Před 3 lety +1

    You forgot Luigi Fagioli of 1951 France

  • @Tvsnumber1fan
    @Tvsnumber1fan Před rokem

    I have read a lot of the comments and it’s so so difficult to compare eras in part because 40, 50, 60, years ago drivers generally started their careers in Motorsports older than they do now. In the 1950s a driver may of started their career at 18 or even older. Now almost all drivers start before they are even 10 years old. Many of them start as young as 4 or 5 years old. This is not just unique to F1. You see this in NASCAR also. Jeff Gordon started racing when he was 5 years old in the 1970s and he made his Cup Series debut at the age of 22. Since than this has become much more common in NASCAR. Before that many drivers didn’t start racing until they were over 10 years of age. Because drivers are starting to race younger and start racing in F1 in their late teens or early twenties means that they are retiring younger. Also drivers in F1 don’t race as much now because the big name drivers like Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen make so much more money in F1 than the drivers in the 1950s did.
    You are not going to see drivers racing in F1 until they late 40s or into their 50s now because of the fact that they start racing so much younger than most drivers did back in the day and because of this they will get burned out so much earlier than they used to and the top flight drivers make so much more money than they did 60 years ago. Also there were far fewer races in the 1950s than compared to today. Plus most of the races in the 1950s were in Europe so there was not as much travel as there are today. This is one of the reasons why drivers don’t race in other series. Also may drivers probably have it in their contracts that they cannot race outside of F1 for many reasons. So it’s very difficult to impossible to compare drivers from different eras due to many reasons, and this is without the differences between the cars from the 1950s compared to today which are night and day.

    • @Tvsnumber1fan
      @Tvsnumber1fan Před rokem

      Of a quick note: There were many non championship events in the 1950s that didn’t count towards the world championship. So that did add to the number of races that many drivers did race in the 1950s. However they didn’t count towards the championship. Also the only reason I say F1 when it comes to Grand Prix racing before the 1981 season is because it’s just easier for people to understand what I am talking about. The FIA Formula 1 World Championship as we know it today didn’t being until 1981 for many complicate reasons I will not go into here.

  • @mitzy4738
    @mitzy4738 Před 3 lety +1

    What about Sir Jack Brabham and his 1970 season?

  • @JT-ko2ib
    @JT-ko2ib Před 3 lety +16

    If Hamilton sticks around, he'll still be winning in his 40s. Not only is he very good, he also seems to have good fortune.

    • @rumblefish9
      @rumblefish9 Před 3 lety

      It will only be a matter of time till the tides turn. No one can be that dominant in F1. Even Michael and Ferrari were stopped.

    • @JT-ko2ib
      @JT-ko2ib Před 3 lety

      @@rumblefish9 Oh yeah. By winning, I don't mean dominating. If the cars were all equal now, Verstappen, Leclerc, Russell & Ricciardo would be my favourites to challenge regularly (others may have different opinions). In his 40s, Hamilton wouldn't be quite as good as he is now.
      It will be interesting to see what Hamilton's next move is. I wonder if he'll change tact and sign a 1 year contract until the end of next year, ensuring he gets 8 titles and walks away "unbeaten". Perhaps he'll extend his stay, switching again, taking the Aston Martin seat instead of Vettel for 2022.

  • @bbrodriguez420
    @bbrodriguez420 Před 3 lety +2

    Honestly if someone is going to do it i wouldn't put it past Alonso. 100% depends on whether their engines keep blowing up.

  • @juliataylor2623
    @juliataylor2623 Před 2 lety

    Mario Andrettis rescue of Lotus should count top

  • @dschoene57
    @dschoene57 Před 3 lety

    Love your Top 10s mate, but seriously, have you heard of a man called Juan Manuel Fangio?

  • @twillis449
    @twillis449 Před 3 lety

    Gianclaudio 'Clay' Regazzoni - best name for a racing driver ever.

  • @rudivandermeer3686
    @rudivandermeer3686 Před 3 lety +1

    No fangio. No brabham? Fangio was just getting started when most these people were retireing. Brabham made his own chamionsip winning car at 40 then backed it up with 2nd the nrxt year

  • @matthiascerebri3315
    @matthiascerebri3315 Před 3 lety

    Even I as a Schumi fan have to admit that the Valencia Podium should not have been allowed due to not slowing Down during yellow flags

  • @anidiotinaracingcar4874
    @anidiotinaracingcar4874 Před 3 lety +1

    4:20: Prost nearly came back to Ferrari in 1996, what an adventure this would have been!

    • @Luke22SV
      @Luke22SV Před 3 lety

      Tbf Prost partnering Schumacher wouldve been one hell of a lineup

    • @anidiotinaracingcar4874
      @anidiotinaracingcar4874 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Luke22SV It would have been one *or* the other. Todt didn't think Schumacher would accept to join Ferrari when he had a perfectly good Benetton and his plan B was Prost. Prost thought the same and was nearly sure he was coming back

    • @Luke22SV
      @Luke22SV Před 3 lety

      An idiot in a racing car ahh i see i think Prost wouldve bailed considering how bad the Ferrari was that year but history couldve been a lot more different

  • @pauloluciomachadodebrito8107

    What about Fangio? Won almost everything beyond 40, against young brit folks like Stirling Moss, Peter Collins, Mike Hawthorne.....
    What an absence.

    • @pauloluciomachadodebrito8107
      @pauloluciomachadodebrito8107 Před 3 lety

      @@uchikoshi-TL his prime was in the late 30's and late 40's
      At that time he won a rally raid in South America that started in Argentina and finished in Brazil about 1000km,
      In other road course race he was so far ahead that he won, and waved the checkered flag to the second place. Multiple wins and titles in argentinian touring cars (the oldest touring car championship in the world)
      No he was not in his prime in the 50's, but he still have it. Go do your homework before saying BS.

  • @sh0ejin
    @sh0ejin Před 3 lety +4

    No Alberto Ascari?

    • @McLarenMercedes
      @McLarenMercedes Před 3 lety +2

      He was merely 36 at the time of his death in 1955. Had he still raced in 1958-1959 then he surely would have been on this list.

  • @EDGEDAZZA
    @EDGEDAZZA Před 3 lety

    Experience baby!

  • @krisht1613
    @krisht1613 Před 3 lety +2

    If Schumi never retired in 2013..imagine how many more championships by now

    • @krithikh72
      @krithikh72 Před 3 lety +7

      Rosberg would have easily beat him haha

    • @deeptenduganguly8530
      @deeptenduganguly8530 Před 3 lety +3

      @@krithikh72 Schumi had started to match Rosberg by 2012, he was very unlucky that season, but he matched Rosberg in qualifying 10-10

    • @krithikh72
      @krithikh72 Před 3 lety

      @@deeptenduganguly8530 Still highly unlikely that a 45 year old Schumi would have beat Rosberg though, and he would probably have been replaced by someone else by that time

    • @G0007
      @G0007 Před 3 lety

      @@krithikh72 to be honest from the second half of 2011 Schu was better is races , and all in all equal in qualiflyings. that pretty amazing that a driver in his age could find the way to improve. my hats off to the Legend.

    • @tucoramirez4558
      @tucoramirez4558 Před 3 lety

      @@deeptenduganguly8530 Yes, 93 points to 49 points. It was clear to Schumacher he wasn't going to get any faster while Rosberg became ever more dominant.
      "but he matched Rosberg in qualifying 10-10" Rosberg was on average 0.192s faster in qualifying.
      " he was very unlucky that season" So was Rosberg. Schumacher was 19th in reliability in 2012 with 966 laps raced. Rosberg was 17th in reliability in 2012 with 1036 laps raced. Mercedes was 9th in reliability of all teams with 2002 laps raced.
      Sorry, Nico Rosberg won a race in 2012. Schumacher didn't.

  • @user12122
    @user12122 Před 3 lety

    Make a documentary of Keke's championship year in F1

  • @ThomasMeierF1
    @ThomasMeierF1 Před 3 lety +1

    Well if things Go Right then Alonso will want to make it to Titel no. 3 Vamos🇪🇸💪🏼

  • @G.P_79
    @G.P_79 Před 3 lety

    Honorable mention for me would be Jack Brabham.

  • @eyaloz7794
    @eyaloz7794 Před 2 lety

    hello matpat I love your videos.
    I want to suggest to you a series called "star wars: the clone wars". it's an amazing show though it isn't as good in the first few seasons but I can promise you will love it by the end of season 3 and it only gets better sins then so there's a 99.999% you won't regret it by the end.

    • @eyaloz7794
      @eyaloz7794 Před 2 lety

      PS. there's a part of the community that will explode in happiness if you bring it up in a video

  • @sammisworkshops3762
    @sammisworkshops3762 Před rokem

    You have left out the oldest Formula 1 driver to win not one but 5 chamionships, All at age 40 or above, Juan Manuel Fangio won his first title at age 40 in 1951, 2nd at 43 in 1954, 3rd at 44, 4th at 45 and his 5th and last title at 45 in 1956. He held the record for most titles won for 46 years until MIchael Schumacher broke that record. And he won those championships with 4 different teams. Let us not forget so quickly the Grand and God father of Formula 1, the great Fangio. no other driver in our lifetimes will break all of his records.

  • @Sinr0ne
    @Sinr0ne Před 3 lety +2

    My story of following F1 ( Im Finnish) is such ; I was 4 years old when I recall watching F1 in 98 with my dad, this habit of watching F1 together still continues today, not too often though. Ive seen Häkkinen battling out Schumacher, Ive seen both of his WC titles. I remember when Kimi came along and became a huge fan immediately, his crude and straight forward attitude, with no bs/politics mentality absolutely ringed every bell, we Finns can relate to that. Being a Kimi fan hasnt been the easiest, but him winning the WC was one of the most memorable moments, I actually shed a tear, so its been painful to watch him being almost a punching bag for some F1 fans, he never lost the speed, he is absolutely still there, but his car and everything need to be spot on for him. Thats why fastest lap in F1 and the last win he got, never surprised me. Fucking finally, thought every Finnish F1 fan, including Kimi.

  • @Housestationlive
    @Housestationlive Před 3 lety

    i will not be surprised to see raikkonen make a podium in 2022 with new regulation and revigored alfa sauber no matter new team name everyday's race car.

  • @AmericasChoice
    @AmericasChoice Před 3 lety +2

    Fangio 1957 German GP. Nuvolari 1935 German GP.

  • @patrickcrean7813
    @patrickcrean7813 Před 3 lety

    Eddie Irvine. Monza 2002

  • @ForzaPolska06
    @ForzaPolska06 Před rokem +1

    I don't think it's coincidence that i got this video reccomended after Alonso hype train started accelerating so fast

  • @arkham3745
    @arkham3745 Před 3 lety

    I don't think Kimi is out of chances yet, he's still got fight in him

  • @teamlean3717
    @teamlean3717 Před 3 lety

    is there a f1 poll kimi doesn't feature in?

  • @anthonysimoes7307
    @anthonysimoes7307 Před 3 lety

    Failed to mention many drivers from bygone eras like Surtees, Brabham, Grahame hill and Fangio

  • @MrGillystar
    @MrGillystar Před 3 lety +2

    If your over 40 you should be given 40 more hp.

  • @abutalibalikazmi4277
    @abutalibalikazmi4277 Před 3 lety

    "Fucking finally".
    - Sir Kimi Raikkonen.

  • @marguskiis7711
    @marguskiis7711 Před 3 lety

    Fangio won MOST of his victories and titles being in his 40s and last one when he was 46!

  • @subarnosinha8042
    @subarnosinha8042 Před 3 lety

    Given Renault's improvements over the last few weeks, expect Alonso to atleast get a podium or 2 in 2021. A race win could be possible in 2022.
    Sad to say but I don't see Kimi getting any podiums or race wins in that Sauber or whatever the heck it's called.

    • @DedMan28
      @DedMan28 Před 2 lety

      > at least get a podium or 2 in 2021.
      Qatar 2021 says hi.

  • @Adrxan_01
    @Adrxan_01 Před 3 lety +2

    2022 Fernando Alonso will win at least one race. Remember the words.

    • @tucoramirez4558
      @tucoramirez4558 Před 3 lety +1

      Only if Renault throws out Cyril Abiteboul.

    • @richboy900
      @richboy900 Před 3 lety +1

      @@tucoramirez4558 and all Mercedes and red bulls fail to finish

    • @paulallen8109
      @paulallen8109 Před 3 lety

      Unfortunately I don't see Renault making a competitive car, and certainly not one which can race with the Mercedes, Red Bull, McLaren and Aston Martin (Racing Point from 2021 onward). Alonso can at best hope for podiums. Sorry, the other teams are too good and there's *plenty* of young talent.
      Alonso won't manage a single podium. Remember the words.

  • @sloppynyuszi
    @sloppynyuszi Před 3 lety

    I think since younger and younger kids are starting F1 careers. I think it will be physically easier for drivers to stay longer. Lewis is still on top form and he is the second oldest on the grid. It will be interesting to see how Alonso does, but I think that will be a measure to see how older drivers fair in the sport.
    Kimi isn’t doing that bad. I think the Alfa is just a crap car since Ferrari asked for their technicians back

  • @hallo_welt_ag
    @hallo_welt_ag Před 2 lety

    Didn't Nigel Mansell also lap the entire field in Adelaide 94?

  • @javiersp15
    @javiersp15 Před 3 lety +1

    Talk about Old boys and not a word about Fangio?

  • @TheRomanRuler
    @TheRomanRuler Před 3 lety

    If Kimi would be in race winning car, i bet he would be next driver to win a race aged over 40. But that looks very very unlikely now.

  • @stepladder3257
    @stepladder3257 Před 3 lety +2

    Im dissapointed Schumi didn't get *69* poles

  • @mynexia9463
    @mynexia9463 Před 3 lety

    Imagine seeing lewis racing and winning in his 50's / 60's

  • @amraverageproduction5379
    @amraverageproduction5379 Před 3 lety +18

    I think Alonso will be kicking himself he didn’t get in the tracing point.

    • @dimasachmad8417
      @dimasachmad8417 Před 3 lety +4

      He's gambling on 2022, he's already said "Ditch the 2021" to Renault.
      And we don't know who will get the best out of the new regs.

    • @Formula1Madx
      @Formula1Madx Před 3 lety +1

      @@dimasachmad8417 Judging on their record over the last decade, it won't be Renault.

    • @stratis722
      @stratis722 Před 3 lety

      @@Formula1Madx lol

    • @ljamieson0581
      @ljamieson0581 Před 3 lety +2

      @@dimasachmad8417 I have a feeling the Mercedes dominance may come to an end, they spend upwards of £400 million developing their cars so with the budget cap set to less than half of that merc and Ferrari might struggle

    • @isa9engineer430
      @isa9engineer430 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ljamieson0581 ferrari is already struggling

  • @AvB.83
    @AvB.83 Před 3 lety

    In a decent car, I'd say Raikonnen and probably Alonso as well could still compete for a place under the top 5 any day. The biggest problem is probably that they expect to get paid instead of paying the team...

  • @lazuardifirdaus1698
    @lazuardifirdaus1698 Před 3 lety

    Hoping Fernando can win few more races and world champoinship

  • @slovajleclerc9093
    @slovajleclerc9093 Před 3 lety

    0:07 A Vampire...?