I don't like the AMG One, but it didn't break down or crash. That mid lap thing was it stopping, going into Strat 2 mode (race mode) in front of everyone and then carrying on. It ran all weekend without incident, it just wasn't impressive at any point.
Again with their lack of knowledge🤣😂🤣how are they gonna review an event when they clearly chose to do a half job on the research.🤣 but yea, that AMG one looked like a kid who was forced to attend a event he didnt wanna go to and play with the other kids.
Mercedes got fucked over when making the AMG One! Mercedes had to tweak the engine and change the exhaust due to noise homologation over halfway through making the AMG-One.
@@MathewBall I'm sure it is that bad just because they had to change the exhaust.. F1 engines are far too complex for proper road use, that's why it's terrible.
Right?! I got all sucked into the BS of choosing his next daily. Then one week after taking delivery the Audi is now for sale. Sometimes you really want to B**** slap Sam and demand he grow a pair.
@@alisteroliver1669 Always find it bizarre how entitled youtube viewers can become - if the man wants to sell a car that he's worked heard to earn the money to buy, who are you , me or anyone to tell him otherwise? very strange mentality
I think his problem is he doesn't do a lot of content with his cars, seems to be changing a bit now, he's using the Ferrari more now. He needs to stop being so proper and get an Ultraviolet GT3 like he really wants. LOL
@@samjpb I'm amazed how responders to comments completely miss the point of the commentor [sic]. But then you're called Blewitt for a reason. To bad it's not your mothers name though. 🙂
Watching the Goodwood FOS this year really has me buzzing to attend next years event... Keen to see the main channel content from that weekend, great podcast as always!
A shoutout to Pagani for the huayra R creation and not setting expectations through the roof like Mercedes and Aston Martin. That Huayra R sounds better, probably runs better, and is such a special track car. Absolute unit they made and didnt set obnoxious expectations, its for pure soul enjoyment purposes!
@@marksapollo its not but i would still have it over the valkyrie and the project one because if u have that money, i can buy anything else plus that huayra r
A shoutout for building the ten millionth variant of a car you just can't let go? No offence to you or the brand but how long is this supposed to go on? Aston Martin did something they'd never done and no one had ever thought possible, they accepted possible failure and very nearly did fail, but they pulled it off and built something beyond imagination. Did they set high expectations yes, but they also met if not surpassed them. Also, and once again no offence, but if anything the Aston is gonna be a special track car.
PAgani also doesn't have to abide by the same sound rules as bigger manufacturers. Mercedes from all the hypercar manufactureres has the most strict, becuase of the massive fleet of other cars they also produce.
Went to Goodwood for Thursday and Friday great days out really enjoyed it especially the Wayne Rainey ride up the hill for you motorcycle fans , the 1st MM film was excellent well done as always
Subscription services are not designed with savings in mind. My Model 3 performance in US is $750/month, $7/90% charge and $100/insurance a month….not entry level money but still very favorable. Best Mon-Fri driving appliance out there
Good segment on the future of mobility. I would suggest that you get a member of the efuel alliance on the podcast to elaborate on the efuel space and how it compares to EV within the context of climate change. Another guest you may want to consider is Peter Kelly Senecal.
Even if you have "eFuel" Sythetic fuels you nead cleaner burning Engines and Fuel Cell to get the Air Quality benefits. Both Camless Engine with Compression Ignition or SOFC would be what is needed to make Syth Fuels work.
The electric cars stole the show for me, 718 GT4 ePerformance, Rimac Nevera, Lucid Air, Supervan and Mcmurtry. Only ICE car that shone for me was the wacky Subaru GL, the rally car with adaptive aero. A McLaren F1 GTR almost crashed at Goodwood and non Goodwood related there is a video doing the rounds of the Valkyrie clipping a wall (not sure where it happened but the crunch it made bouncing off the wall made my toes curl, sounded very expensive)
E-fuel will never ever be for the mass-market. It will be for the entusiast-segment. As Harry Metcalfe said in a video standing in front of a Testarossa and a Countach "It can be the way to keep our toys on the road".
Exactly rich man’s niche. Car enthusiasts are being wilfully ignorant about this though and put their fingers in their ears when you tell them otherwise.
Love the podcast. I was taking a look at the channel description and noticed that “bought” it spelled wrong, it should be “brought.” Anyways, looking forward to future episodes!
Hypercar/GTP Cars can be LMDh's (which are built on a LMP2-spec chassis from Dallara, Ligier, Multimatic or Oreca), so those cars will be cheaper to build (and buy for private teams). The Porsche 963 is a LMDh's which uses a Multimatic chassis, and they'll have a factory team called Porsche-Penske Motorsport, and privateer teams such as JOTA. Cars such as the Peugeot 9X8, Ferrari Hypercar or Toyota are LMH's and are completely build by themselves. If I made a mistake, please correct me, but as a huge WEC/Sportscar fan, I can't wait for this new era of racing!
The most amusing thing to me about the Tesla Roadster 50 grand deposit is that if you'd spent that money on Tesla stock instead it would be worth well over a million.
Max did say that no F1 car can even get close to the Mcmurty up to around 70mph where the amount of downforce becomes more in the f1 car. thats why they added the wing to the back.
The goodwood lap was truly mental. Was call to see it come together after that podcast you had with Max, definitely need a follow up and a test drive with him!
The discussion at the end of this pod on fuel vs EV was really interesting. Almost feels like a scaled up car equivalent of VHS and Beta max in a weird way, from the perspective of manufacturers choosing options at least.
3D TV, Betmax, LaserDisc, DAT, MiniDisc, CDi etc. There are countless of examples of what tech manufacturers thought was 'the answer', only to be made obsolete by something else. EV's will be made obsolete by synthetic fuels. It's called progress.
@@saxongroove5898 EVs will be cheaper to run so it will be a bit of both. Synthetic fuels are primarily being developed for trucks, planes, longer range vehicles. The latest VW products coming out in the next two years have over 600km of range. That's plus 100km in two years.
@@saxongroove5898 LOL that's just absurd, sorry Synthetic Fuels will never be economical for large scale use within our life time. I bet fossil fuel Crude Oil Petroleum products will be used far longer as BEVs are slowly phased in. eFuel IS LaserDisc, too expensive and complicated for the time.
Thank you! A fun and good Behind The Glass episode. Great to hear your informed conversation, especially the segment on EV vs ICE, insightful, and also on the monetary front.
I am working on the carbon reduction programme for a FTSE 100 company and have been driving an EV for 6 1/2 years, so I’m very personally invested in reducing carbon and combatting climate change. However whilst I believe EV’s (or at least moving away from fossil fuels) are part of the answer, the fact is that vehicles contribute a small percentage of emissions. There are far higher priorities, in particular green construction techniques, that would have a far bigger impact. I’m confused about why EV’s have so much of the government focus compared to construction techniques, manufacturing techniques etc.
Because it's a doable far bigger functional societal benefit with impacts beyond just carbon emissions. Most simple one being Air Quality in your local area. It seems lots of people on both side here are wrongly fixated on CO2 GHG as the only reason for BEVs.
Love the Podcast as always, and i know you love bashing the Project One but still, please get your facts straight... The Project One had an no Breakdowns the whole weekend. It stopped in the middle of the track to show off the change to Strat2 mode with all the aero bits going up and the car lowering itself, what would be very clear if one had seen it. The crash you got right, the AMG GT Track Series missed a corner and went into the hay. Missed the braking point (fyi the driver is a factory AMG GT3 driver).
It was the AMG GT Track Series which crashed as for the Mercedes-AMG One it ran all week just fine. 👍🏼😬👍🏼 AMG GT Track Series CRASHES at Goodwood Festival of Speed - czcams.com/video/SLnqJqov-ps/video.html Mercedes-AMG One - Acceleration Sounds, Fly By's @ Goodwood Festival of Speed! - czcams.com/video/3gv28_ecXx0/video.html
It was my first time at Goodwood and it was absolutely mindblowing - sad to have missed you there, managed to catch Tim tho. Stood next to my grail vehicle (Singer DLS) - it was just so unassuming amongst all those hypercars but if you know you know.
Electric cars will be part of the solution, not the solution. Just because they don't work for everyone, doesn't mean that they don't work for a large majority of people. A 911 doesn't work for everyone, don't make it a bad car.
BEVs are not even possilbe to SUPPLY in the next few decades to be the whole soloution. BEVs are limited to SUPPLY CHAIN Production limitations not ideological desire to pick a power train type. I still think 70% of all utilitarian vehicles is doable in just under 3 Decades.
On the model 3 costing £1300 a month. I’d assume this is an all-in subscription service, just like JLR’s pivotal for example which can easily cost that much just to drive something like a Defender 90. It’s not really comparable to the finance agreements you were talking about Sam which don’t include maintenance, insurance, tax etc.
I drive a Tesla Model S for everyday use, charging 99% at home and then I have a 488 Spider for weekend drives. Perfect combo!! I would never buy an ICE car for everyday use again!!
All the Ferrari’s V8, if I had the money, I would have an F8 with an incredible exhaust, to make sound like anything but a vacuum cleaner. It’s gorgeous, it’s comfortable, it has space. Dream garage is a F8, 812 comp, 992 Gt3 touring ( or Singer DLS ) and a Range Rover as a daily
Hello again, Gentlemen ! The world has gone mad, there is so much petrol, diesel in and due to come into the UK that the fuel company's don't have space to store it, but the price still increases and demand reduces, the government advisers want electric but can't produce the power to charge all the cars, however BP SuperV Diesel is £215.9 per liter of which the government earn massive amounts of cash as the taxes are based on percentages not fixed surcharge. Crazy. RichardA.
When electric becomes the norm, be ready to see subscribtions every where. Even my dad got convinced to get an electric car on a lease (subscribtion) a KIA EV 6 mid range spec 600 Euro a month. He could have bought the car outright, but i do think my generation 90's kids wont have the money to outright buy cars so they will have to get a subcribtion. or buy crappy second hand EV's.
WTF That's was already a thing with ICE vehicles starting a decade ago. That has nothing to do with BEVs. It's just the Predatory Debt market which literaly tries to sell EVERYTHING that way.
Sorry guys, I like you, but your take on EVs is wrong, they are way more efficient and in every innovation first it gets worse before it gets better (i. e. CO2 for building charging stations or battery manufacturing). I prefer ICE cars as well but that is the truth.
Great podcast as always🤩 Regarding EVs, as an interesting side point, during the take-down of Boris Johnson in a public enquiry on 6 June, the Government haven't even got a Plan B regarding duty for EVs for when ICE engines are discouraged from use, as they make an absolute packet from fuel duty...so I think they'll compromise with what we currently have, but more hybrids :) EVs aren't there yet for charging to be practical 😉
I know this is kind of odd, but I saw the top gear guys do it. Would you ever consider building the lego technic you have at the back, but on video together. A funny dinamic vlog thing.
Sam I share your dilemma with Red Bull Porsche. I really don’t like Max but I am a Porschephille. It’s years away and already stressed about my allegiance.
I truly think there's only a small percentage of people that actually want combustion engines outlawed even outside of the car community. The fact that this is becoming such a realistic future is dissapointing.
@Behind The Glass you didnt mention it in the podcast but what did you think of the formula 1 presence at Goodwood this year. For me it felt like the F1 batch was one of the emptiest its been, and felt very weird with no red bull there.
Idk man...imagine an electric car with twice the fan power and twice the drive power of thr McMurtry. Certainly that sort of thing is coming. It would blow our minds even more than the McMurtry already has
@@mitchellsteindler I honestly really don't care at this point. I am just not an EV person flat out, and that will never change. I am not one to drink the kool aid just because it tastes sweet.
The Porsche is in the LMDh class no the Le Mans Hypercar class. Because the FIA basically wouldn't allow the Manufacturers to convert their Hypercars to a series, all the main manufacturers are basically going into LMDh
@seenthroughglass Couple of color combination options for the GT3…there’s a Miura midnight blue with red interior or a Singer Porsche , the octagon commission…just a thought
Just as a reference point for the goodwood times: Häkkinen in Monaco in 98 got pole in 1.19.8 Leclerc in Monaco in 21 got pole in 1.10.3 So there's a good chance that a modern F1 car would beat the record if they drove it flat out. You would probably want the RB from the end of last year for the fastest but it should win. You can't compare the silverstone times as the layout has changed between 98 and 21 but from 2013 to 2021 the gap in pace from Chilton to Hamilton (pole in 21) was also very large. Not really the best comparison though as silverstone tests very different things to a hill climb.
I think Red bull power trains was set up because Honda were pulling out and red bull kept the facility and staff under their own name.. It wasn't set up for the incoming porsche partnership
Love the podcast but you 2 don’t half bash electric cars. £1300 for the Tesla is stupid and not realistic. It’s the most expensive you’ve heard so your telling people about it. I’ve got the same car and it costs me around £800 all in per month. That’s for 25k miles a year.
22:46 that was the original plan, but they axed that and said you CAN but you don’t have to. Toyota was, they aren’t anymore, SGC still is, and I’m not sure of any other that still are
Hi guys, are used to work at Lanzante. They actually won Le Mans for McLaren the first time out. And when I worked there they looked after customers racing cars. This included Formula One cars right the way down to classic Alfa Romeo‘s, light weight E-type jags and so on. They are now based in Petersfield in Hampshire which is only a stones throw away from Goodwood.
I think Tony forgot the main reason the industry is trying to move away from internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles. It's not because the ICE is broken, it's because oil is not infinite and because ICE are one of the biggest contributors to climate change. Creating synthetic fuel might address the oil shortage, but not the burnt by-product (ie. exhaust pollutant) from it.
Statistically speaking, ICE are not "one of the biggest contributors to climate change". Not by some measure. It's roughly 10% (globally) or there about. The reasons are political more than anything else (personal opinion).
I was looking at Volvo's subscription service and you can get a V90 recharge for 700 quid a month (off the top of my head) and that's 500 mpg using the battery
I don’t think in terms of charging speeds and range EVs will advance that much now. I think batteries will get smaller and lighter but there is no need to target a 300 mile range as this will work for almost everyone. The work that needs to be done is on infrastructure, not the vehicles. (I think this is shown by Tesla where as you said, the main attraction over other brands is the Supercharger network.) I also think think that EVs will work for the vast majority of people the vast majority of the time. If you think about all the ‘A to B’ cars that are on the roads like Jukes, RAV4s, Corsas etc then these vehicles typically are not going to be travelling long distances so would have no issue being electrified. However, I think trying to make *everything* electric is wrong. I completely agree that eFuel is where we should be looking for long distance travel and high performance vehicles. Whilst electric supercars and hypercars are impressive, they’re missing so much in comparison to their ICE equivalents, therefore developing sustainable fuels for these is definitely the route we should be taking. In the end I’d like to see us reach a point where the vast majority of cars are electric because this works for most people, then we have some PHEVs for the likes of Tony doing long distance every day, then we have ‘drivers’ cars which are still ICE. This, to me, is much more achievable than making everything electric and much more exciting than an EV-only future, whilst still being far more sustainable than the situation we’re in now.
"EV-only future" is not possible anytime soon, soo stop fear mongering that. It's going take a few decades just to get a majority of utilitarian vehicles to be BEVs. This false concept that BEVs are going to replace everything soon is just silly add on top the supply chain problems. I think BEVs will naturally become the vast majority of transportation appliances and still alot left over due to supply limitations.
@@Neojhun Didn’t think I was fear-mongering anything, we’re actually in agreement that the future is not 100% electric. However, as far as I know the UK legislation that was referenced applies to passenger vehicles, not ‘utilitarian’ vehicles. Also, the supply chain limitations you reference concern all vehicles, not just BEVs, it’s just that demand for BEVs is understandably outstripping supply.
Guys, just give up, Electric is coming and there is not going to be a reversal, even with synthetic fuels. Off course they are trying to extend the combustion engine, imagine how much they have invested in this ... the infra issues will be solved over time, but the fight has been fought eventually electric will be the standard in 25 years and our combustion cars and bikes will be our hobby and passion projects for the weekend. I love cars, I love bikes and I love electric cars, ... try to be positive, try more electric cars and think of solutions in stead of finding problems everywhere. The grid can handle a lot, it is adaptable but requires changes and optimisation ....
Not realy a case of Infra being solved soon. People do not understand how slow this process of Limit Manufacturing Supply actually is. It will take 3 Decades just build adequate amount of BEVs and charging infrastructure. During that time the Electric Grid will adapt slow. It's like the people who dislike BEVs also think it will all be replaced over night.
Red Bull Powertrains department is already working on their 2026 engine, with many personal they poached around the F1 industry. Porsche is likely only going to badge that engine, pay for it's development while Red Bull Powertrains is building it. At the most, they will co-develop that engine. Audi however wants to do a full works engine program, there is no way VAG is going to pay for two works programs. Honda is currently building Red Bulls & Alpha Tauri's engines under the HRC banner until the end of 2025. Though Honda has signaled they are looking to get back officially into F1, so there isn't anything solid in stone yet with any of these plans.
At this point, why as Porsche would you get involved at all? Put your badge on an engine you didn't even build, just to get your name into F1? As one of the most capable car manufacturers in the world? Isn't that below the brand? What if the engine sucks, it will have their name on it.
@@gandalfkenobi007 Or maybe they co-develop it, it hasn't been confirmed. But Red Bull built a giant facility and has a lot of people working on their 2026 engine, they aren't going to drop that project, they want someone to badge it. VAG has two of their brands in F1, they aren't going to make 2 Works programs that is for sure.
It does not matter how good an electric vehicle is if the infrastructure is no good. Public chargers must all be compatible and working all of the time otherwise there will be chaos. Of course when there is a power cut we will all be f…….d
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I don't like the AMG One, but it didn't break down or crash. That mid lap thing was it stopping, going into Strat 2 mode (race mode) in front of everyone and then carrying on. It ran all weekend without incident, it just wasn't impressive at any point.
Again with their lack of knowledge🤣😂🤣how are they gonna review an event when they clearly chose to do a half job on the research.🤣 but yea, that AMG one looked like a kid who was forced to attend a event he didnt wanna go to and play with the other kids.
@Daniel Willis, I agree with most of what you wrote except for not liking it and to be fair it's not easy being impressive at Goodwood.
Mercedes got fucked over when making the AMG One! Mercedes had to tweak the engine and change the exhaust due to noise homologation over halfway through making the AMG-One.
@@MathewBall they got fucked when they decided to put an F1 engine in a road car lol
@@MathewBall I'm sure it is that bad just because they had to change the exhaust.. F1 engines are far too complex for proper road use, that's why it's terrible.
Don't know about the UK but Rivians have been delivered in the US. Tony needs to do his research!
If you intend to keep the GT3 for a reasonable time then pick the colour you want but if this is purely a u tube car any colour will do in my opinion
Right?! I got all sucked into the BS of choosing his next daily. Then one week after taking delivery the Audi is now for sale. Sometimes you really want to B**** slap Sam and demand he grow a pair.
@@alisteroliver1669 to be fair, getting a gt3 slot didn't seem to be the plan when he got the rs6
@@alisteroliver1669 Always find it bizarre how entitled youtube viewers can become - if the man wants to sell a car that he's worked heard to earn the money to buy, who are you , me or anyone to tell him otherwise? very strange mentality
I think his problem is he doesn't do a lot of content with his cars, seems to be changing a bit now, he's using the Ferrari more now. He needs to stop being so proper and get an Ultraviolet GT3 like he really wants. LOL
@@samjpb I'm amazed how responders to comments completely miss the point of the commentor [sic]. But then you're called Blewitt for a reason. To bad it's not your mothers name though. 🙂
Watching the Goodwood FOS this year really has me buzzing to attend next years event... Keen to see the main channel content from that weekend, great podcast as always!
A shoutout to Pagani for the huayra R creation and not setting expectations through the roof like Mercedes and Aston Martin. That Huayra R sounds better, probably runs better, and is such a special track car. Absolute unit they made and didnt set obnoxious expectations, its for pure soul enjoyment purposes!
I don’t think it’s road legal unlike the Aston and AMG.
@@marksapollo its not but i would still have it over the valkyrie and the project one because if u have that money, i can buy anything else plus that huayra r
@@marksapollo neither is Valkyrie AMR PRO. Huayra and Huayra R are diferrent cars. Same as Enzo/FXX, LaF/FXXK
A shoutout for building the ten millionth variant of a car you just can't let go? No offence to you or the brand but how long is this supposed to go on? Aston Martin did something they'd never done and no one had ever thought possible, they accepted possible failure and very nearly did fail, but they pulled it off and built something beyond imagination. Did they set high expectations yes, but they also met if not surpassed them. Also, and once again no offence, but if anything the Aston is gonna be a special track car.
PAgani also doesn't have to abide by the same sound rules as bigger manufacturers. Mercedes from all the hypercar manufactureres has the most strict, becuase of the massive fleet of other cars they also produce.
Went to Goodwood for Thursday and Friday great days out really enjoyed it especially the Wayne Rainey ride up the hill for you motorcycle fans , the 1st MM film was excellent well done as always
I find it funny that Tony is going in on your voice. He sounds like an extra from Oliver Twist.
34:30 The McLaren carbon tub is already rigid enough to spearhead a cabrio version, for sure.
Lanzante also had a Zonda R on the stand which they had Road converted 🤯
Subscription services are not designed with savings in mind. My Model 3 performance in US is $750/month, $7/90% charge and $100/insurance a month….not entry level money but still very favorable. Best Mon-Fri driving appliance out there
Good segment on the future of mobility. I would suggest that you get a member of the efuel alliance on the podcast to elaborate on the efuel space and how it compares to EV within the context of climate change. Another guest you may want to consider is Peter Kelly Senecal.
Even if you have "eFuel" Sythetic fuels you nead cleaner burning Engines and Fuel Cell to get the Air Quality benefits. Both Camless Engine with Compression Ignition or SOFC would be what is needed to make Syth Fuels work.
The electric cars stole the show for me, 718 GT4 ePerformance, Rimac Nevera, Lucid Air, Supervan and Mcmurtry.
Only ICE car that shone for me was the wacky Subaru GL, the rally car with adaptive aero.
A McLaren F1 GTR almost crashed at Goodwood and non Goodwood related there is a video doing the rounds of the Valkyrie clipping a wall (not sure where it happened but the crunch it made bouncing off the wall made my toes curl, sounded very expensive)
That Vicky impression 🤣🤣👌
Was a very good year, some proper weapons were on show and on the track.
When you pick something different you end up loving it cuz it’s something you weren’t expecting
Tony smiling and voice are fantastic ! You are a fantastic duo! Great to see you and to watch your videos!
36:00, would love to hear more about the McLaren F1 market.
E-fuel will never ever be for the mass-market. It will be for the entusiast-segment. As Harry Metcalfe said in a video standing in front of a Testarossa and a Countach "It can be the way to keep our toys on the road".
Exactly rich man’s niche. Car enthusiasts are being wilfully ignorant about this though and put their fingers in their ears when you tell them otherwise.
Love the podcast. I was taking a look at the channel description and noticed that “bought” it spelled wrong, it should be “brought.” Anyways, looking forward to future episodes!
Great podcast , love hearing what you have to say about the cars I saw at Goodwood!
Hypercar/GTP Cars can be LMDh's (which are built on a LMP2-spec chassis from Dallara, Ligier, Multimatic or Oreca), so those cars will be cheaper to build (and buy for private teams). The Porsche 963 is a LMDh's which uses a Multimatic chassis, and they'll have a factory team called Porsche-Penske Motorsport, and privateer teams such as JOTA. Cars such as the Peugeot 9X8, Ferrari Hypercar or Toyota are LMH's and are completely build by themselves. If I made a mistake, please correct me, but as a huge WEC/Sportscar fan, I can't wait for this new era of racing!
Correct mate
The most amusing thing to me about the Tesla Roadster 50 grand deposit is that if you'd spent that money on Tesla stock instead it would be worth well over a million.
It was great being back at the festival of speed this year! Missed it so much, went for two days and still missed loads!
Max did say that no F1 car can even get close to the Mcmurty up to around 70mph where the amount of downforce becomes more in the f1 car. thats why they added the wing to the back.
The goodwood lap was truly mental. Was call to see it come together after that podcast you had with Max, definitely need a follow up and a test drive with him!
The discussion at the end of this pod on fuel vs EV was really interesting.
Almost feels like a scaled up car equivalent of VHS and Beta max in a weird way, from the perspective of manufacturers choosing options at least.
I have to admit. I turned it off once they started talking about EVs. Give these two the tiniest bit of ammunition and it's doomsday for the EV.
3D TV, Betmax, LaserDisc, DAT, MiniDisc, CDi etc. There are countless of examples of what tech manufacturers thought was 'the answer', only to be made obsolete by something else. EV's will be made obsolete by synthetic fuels. It's called progress.
@@saxongroove5898 EVs will be cheaper to run so it will be a bit of both. Synthetic fuels are primarily being developed for trucks, planes, longer range vehicles. The latest VW products coming out in the next two years have over 600km of range. That's plus 100km in two years.
@@pato10111 Makes sense 👍
@@saxongroove5898 LOL that's just absurd, sorry Synthetic Fuels will never be economical for large scale use within our life time. I bet fossil fuel Crude Oil Petroleum products will be used far longer as BEVs are slowly phased in. eFuel IS LaserDisc, too expensive and complicated for the time.
Interesting conversation again today men! Will be fun to see where our power comes from for personal mobility in the future.
Thank you! A fun and good Behind The Glass episode. Great to hear your informed conversation, especially the segment on EV vs ICE, insightful, and also on the monetary front.
I am working on the carbon reduction programme for a FTSE 100 company and have been driving an EV for 6 1/2 years, so I’m very personally invested in reducing carbon and combatting climate change.
However whilst I believe EV’s (or at least moving away from fossil fuels) are part of the answer, the fact is that vehicles contribute a small percentage of emissions. There are far higher priorities, in particular green construction techniques, that would have a far bigger impact. I’m confused about why EV’s have so much of the government focus compared to construction techniques, manufacturing techniques etc.
Because it's a doable far bigger functional societal benefit with impacts beyond just carbon emissions. Most simple one being Air Quality in your local area. It seems lots of people on both side here are wrongly fixated on CO2 GHG as the only reason for BEVs.
Watching them go at each other is hilarious 😆
Love the Podcast as always, and i know you love bashing the Project One but still, please get your facts straight... The Project One had an no Breakdowns the whole weekend. It stopped in the middle of the track to show off the change to Strat2 mode with all the aero bits going up and the car lowering itself, what would be very clear if one had seen it.
The crash you got right, the AMG GT Track Series missed a corner and went into the hay. Missed the braking point (fyi the driver is a factory AMG GT3 driver).
It was the AMG GT Track Series which crashed as for the Mercedes-AMG One it ran all week just fine. 👍🏼😬👍🏼
AMG GT Track Series CRASHES at Goodwood Festival of Speed - czcams.com/video/SLnqJqov-ps/video.html
Mercedes-AMG One - Acceleration Sounds, Fly By's @ Goodwood Festival of Speed! - czcams.com/video/3gv28_ecXx0/video.html
The tesla eco-system is the big important thing. Solar-car-powerwall. Game changer.
Green with gold wheels Sam, you know you want too
What I was thinking also
It was my first time at Goodwood and it was absolutely mindblowing - sad to have missed you there, managed to catch Tim tho.
Stood next to my grail vehicle (Singer DLS) - it was just so unassuming amongst all those hypercars but if you know you know.
Electric cars will be part of the solution, not the solution. Just because they don't work for everyone, doesn't mean that they don't work for a large majority of people. A 911 doesn't work for everyone, don't make it a bad car.
ICE cars don't work for me. I hate stopping at petrol stations and find fuel too expensive. I like the ease of charging from home.
BEVs are not even possilbe to SUPPLY in the next few decades to be the whole soloution. BEVs are limited to SUPPLY CHAIN Production limitations not ideological desire to pick a power train type. I still think 70% of all utilitarian vehicles is doable in just under 3 Decades.
I was there on Sunday, I thought it wasn’t as good as last year
You're forgetting one other thing about the McLaren F1.
It won Lemans OUTRIGHT on its FIRST TRY (then drove home afterwards).
A real taste maker doesn't give a flip about anyone else's opinion other than theirs.
Yep
such a fan i lived in the UK till and lived in the UK about 94 now im in the US great fan of your guys channels
On the model 3 costing £1300 a month. I’d assume this is an all-in subscription service, just like JLR’s pivotal for example which can easily cost that much just to drive something like a Defender 90. It’s not really comparable to the finance agreements you were talking about Sam which don’t include maintenance, insurance, tax etc.
If Tony liked EV’s he would sing a completely different tune.
Yes - and he knows EV´s and he does not like them - yet. Give him 24 months
There’s Rivians everywhere in western US.
New tactic to sell electric is the fuel costs!
I drive a Tesla Model S for everyday use, charging 99% at home and then I have a 488 Spider for weekend drives. Perfect combo!! I would never buy an ICE car for everyday use again!!
All the Ferrari’s V8, if I had the money, I would have an F8 with an incredible exhaust, to make sound like anything but a vacuum cleaner. It’s gorgeous, it’s comfortable, it has space. Dream garage is a F8, 812 comp, 992 Gt3 touring ( or Singer DLS ) and a Range Rover as a daily
Hello again, Gentlemen ! The world has gone mad, there is so much petrol, diesel in and due to come into the UK that the fuel company's don't have space to store it, but the price still increases and demand reduces, the government advisers want electric but can't produce the power to charge all the cars, however BP SuperV Diesel is £215.9 per liter of which the government earn massive amounts of cash as the taxes are based on percentages not fixed surcharge. Crazy. RichardA.
When electric becomes the norm, be ready to see subscribtions every where. Even my dad got convinced to get an electric car on a lease (subscribtion) a KIA EV 6 mid range spec 600 Euro a month. He could have bought the car outright, but i do think my generation 90's kids wont have the money to outright buy cars so they will have to get a subcribtion. or buy crappy second hand EV's.
WTF That's was already a thing with ICE vehicles starting a decade ago. That has nothing to do with BEVs. It's just the Predatory Debt market which literaly tries to sell EVERYTHING that way.
Sorry guys, I like you, but your take on EVs is wrong, they are way more efficient and in every innovation first it gets worse before it gets better (i. e. CO2 for building charging stations or battery manufacturing). I prefer ICE cars as well but that is the truth.
Viola or the baby blue with baby blue interior is nice if you have to get a Porsche but happy you will make a profit
Please be Jet Metallic Green for the 992 GT3... please!
Great podcast as always🤩 Regarding EVs, as an interesting side point, during the take-down of Boris Johnson in a public enquiry on 6 June, the Government haven't even got a Plan B regarding duty for EVs for when ICE engines are discouraged from use, as they make an absolute packet from fuel duty...so I think they'll compromise with what we currently have, but more hybrids :) EVs aren't there yet for charging to be practical 😉
I know this is kind of odd, but I saw the top gear guys do it. Would you ever consider building the lego technic you have at the back, but on video together. A funny dinamic vlog thing.
Sam I share your dilemma with Red Bull Porsche. I really don’t like Max but I am a Porschephille. It’s years away and already stressed about my allegiance.
Sam low key sounds like SOL with the gravelly voice...🤣
I work for NG and there is no capacity for this and the independent network operators are in the same boat...
Great podcast guys, I'm very hesitant to go electric and you've just made up my mind 😂
We still have at least 25 years of petrol, so petrol cars aren't going anywhere. Don't listen to those green bashers.
Lol stick to petrol mate
@@christianlumpert508 Hell no, only for recreational purposes.
7:48 “GT3 Turbo S” wait, what?
I truly think there's only a small percentage of people that actually want combustion engines outlawed even outside of the car community. The fact that this is becoming such a realistic future is dissapointing.
@Behind The Glass you didnt mention it in the podcast but what did you think of the formula 1 presence at Goodwood this year. For me it felt like the F1 batch was one of the emptiest its been, and felt very weird with no red bull there.
Frozen Berry metallic on the gt3 Sam
Good pod cast sam. Got same cold going on here also ur not the only one sam
Goodwood would be ruined if it all went electric as you would just not get the atmosphere you get with vehicles with proper engines
Idk man...imagine an electric car with twice the fan power and twice the drive power of thr McMurtry. Certainly that sort of thing is coming. It would blow our minds even more than the McMurtry already has
@@mitchellsteindler I honestly really don't care at this point. I am just not an EV person flat out, and that will never change. I am not one to drink the kool aid just because it tastes sweet.
@@wyattmunger5529 damn. You're deep 😬
Go and look at the Rivian share price over the last year and their results and make your own mind up as to how long they will be around.
The Porsche is in the LMDh class no the Le Mans Hypercar class. Because the FIA basically wouldn't allow the Manufacturers to convert their Hypercars to a series, all the main manufacturers are basically going into LMDh
@seenthroughglass Couple of color combination options for the GT3…there’s a Miura midnight blue with red interior or a Singer Porsche , the octagon commission…just a thought
It's going to be green and manual? Each to their own. Enjoy the ordering experience. It will work out great.
Just as a reference point for the goodwood times:
Häkkinen in Monaco in 98 got pole in 1.19.8
Leclerc in Monaco in 21 got pole in 1.10.3
So there's a good chance that a modern F1 car would beat the record if they drove it flat out. You would probably want the RB from the end of last year for the fastest but it should win.
You can't compare the silverstone times as the layout has changed between 98 and 21 but from 2013 to 2021 the gap in pace from Chilton to Hamilton (pole in 21) was also very large. Not really the best comparison though as silverstone tests very different things to a hill climb.
Thought the new Red Bull Powertrains Company was just for their continued use / development of the Honda engine?
The Land Rover box in the background, is that a hint to the new daily to replace the RS6...?
27:44 I believe it was AMG GT Black series
I think Red bull power trains was set up because Honda were pulling out and red bull kept the facility and staff under their own name.. It wasn't set up for the incoming porsche partnership
Love the podcast but you 2 don’t half bash electric cars. £1300 for the Tesla is stupid and not realistic. It’s the most expensive you’ve heard so your telling people about it. I’ve got the same car and it costs me around £800 all in per month. That’s for 25k miles a year.
Also , Porsche penske is the factory entry. They have sold cars to Jota and an IMSA team
The Valkyrie sounds so OTT / mad.
What’s happened to early Patreon uploads?
Tesla are bashed all the time but I’ve had mine close to 12 months now and not had one issue.
You are not doing Lanzante any justice. They literally won Le Mans in 1993 outright. A record not to be repeated again.
Im sure Max Chilton will buy the first Mcmurtry, and flip it.
Porsche 911 GT3 in Arena Red Metallic
Red it is then. Matches the 360 and the F Type Archie revealed on his channel 👀
22:46 that was the original plan, but they axed that and said you CAN but you don’t have to. Toyota was, they aren’t anymore, SGC still is, and I’m not sure of any other that still are
Hi guys, are used to work at Lanzante. They actually won Le Mans for McLaren the first time out. And when I worked there they looked after customers racing cars. This included Formula One cars right the way down to classic Alfa Romeo‘s, light weight E-type jags and so on. They are now based in Petersfield in Hampshire which is only a stones throw away from Goodwood.
C'mon Sam, we all know you are getting a green porsche with tan interior 🤣
I think Tony forgot the main reason the industry is trying to move away from internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles. It's not because the ICE is broken, it's because oil is not infinite and because ICE are one of the biggest contributors to climate change. Creating synthetic fuel might address the oil shortage, but not the burnt by-product (ie. exhaust pollutant) from it.
Statistically speaking, ICE are not "one of the biggest contributors to climate change".
Not by some measure.
It's roughly 10% (globally) or there about.
The reasons are political more than anything else (personal opinion).
I was looking at Volvo's subscription service and you can get a V90 recharge for 700 quid a month (off the top of my head) and that's 500 mpg using the battery
500 mpg...no sir...tesla model 3 is about 100 mpg equivalent.
I don’t think in terms of charging speeds and range EVs will advance that much now. I think batteries will get smaller and lighter but there is no need to target a 300 mile range as this will work for almost everyone. The work that needs to be done is on infrastructure, not the vehicles. (I think this is shown by Tesla where as you said, the main attraction over other brands is the Supercharger network.)
I also think think that EVs will work for the vast majority of people the vast majority of the time. If you think about all the ‘A to B’ cars that are on the roads like Jukes, RAV4s, Corsas etc then these vehicles typically are not going to be travelling long distances so would have no issue being electrified.
However, I think trying to make *everything* electric is wrong. I completely agree that eFuel is where we should be looking for long distance travel and high performance vehicles. Whilst electric supercars and hypercars are impressive, they’re missing so much in comparison to their ICE equivalents, therefore developing sustainable fuels for these is definitely the route we should be taking.
In the end I’d like to see us reach a point where the vast majority of cars are electric because this works for most people, then we have some PHEVs for the likes of Tony doing long distance every day, then we have ‘drivers’ cars which are still ICE. This, to me, is much more achievable than making everything electric and much more exciting than an EV-only future, whilst still being far more sustainable than the situation we’re in now.
"EV-only future" is not possible anytime soon, soo stop fear mongering that. It's going take a few decades just to get a majority of utilitarian vehicles to be BEVs. This false concept that BEVs are going to replace everything soon is just silly add on top the supply chain problems. I think BEVs will naturally become the vast majority of transportation appliances and still alot left over due to supply limitations.
@@Neojhun Didn’t think I was fear-mongering anything, we’re actually in agreement that the future is not 100% electric. However, as far as I know the UK legislation that was referenced applies to passenger vehicles, not ‘utilitarian’ vehicles. Also, the supply chain limitations you reference concern all vehicles, not just BEVs, it’s just that demand for BEVs is understandably outstripping supply.
Fantastic to see the Irish company Mcmurty get the record 👏 🇮🇪
English company, Irish owner.
@@jaykay4218 Irish company buddy. Irish car buddy.
@@jaykay4218 You should be grateful that an Irish company is giving some Brits employment.
@@paddymuppy I'm irish. Unlike the company, which is most definitely registered with Companies House in the UK.
@@jaykay4218 It's an Irish company based in England. What's the name of the car buddy ?
Guys, just give up, Electric is coming and there is not going to be a reversal, even with synthetic fuels. Off course they are trying to extend the combustion engine, imagine how much they have invested in this ... the infra issues will be solved over time, but the fight has been fought eventually electric will be the standard in 25 years and our combustion cars and bikes will be our hobby and passion projects for the weekend. I love cars, I love bikes and I love electric cars, ... try to be positive, try more electric cars and think of solutions in stead of finding problems everywhere.
The grid can handle a lot, it is adaptable but requires changes and optimisation ....
Not realy a case of Infra being solved soon. People do not understand how slow this process of Limit Manufacturing Supply actually is. It will take 3 Decades just build adequate amount of BEVs and charging infrastructure. During that time the Electric Grid will adapt slow. It's like the people who dislike BEVs also think it will all be replaced over night.
Solid chat lads.
Has Sam thrown the RS6 in the ocean yet?
Did Tony mention that the new GT3 got a PDK?
What about ivory or cream for the spec
Yellow would be nice
Albert blue looks nice on the gt3 that is if u want blue
Sam please also tell us your initial choice and what made you change your mind when you do the video on it. Best choice is your choice.
Red Bull Powertrains department is already working on their 2026 engine, with many personal they poached around the F1 industry. Porsche is likely only going to badge that engine, pay for it's development while Red Bull Powertrains is building it. At the most, they will co-develop that engine. Audi however wants to do a full works engine program, there is no way VAG is going to pay for two works programs. Honda is currently building Red Bulls & Alpha Tauri's engines under the HRC banner until the end of 2025. Though Honda has signaled they are looking to get back officially into F1, so there isn't anything solid in stone yet with any of these plans.
At this point, why as Porsche would you get involved at all? Put your badge on an engine you didn't even build, just to get your name into F1? As one of the most capable car manufacturers in the world? Isn't that below the brand? What if the engine sucks, it will have their name on it.
@@gandalfkenobi007 Or maybe they co-develop it, it hasn't been confirmed. But Red Bull built a giant facility and has a lot of people working on their 2026 engine, they aren't going to drop that project, they want someone to badge it. VAG has two of their brands in F1, they aren't going to make 2 Works programs that is for sure.
@@gpaje Fair enough
Tony sits like a friggin teapot...
It does not matter how good an electric vehicle is if the infrastructure is no good. Public chargers must all be compatible and working all of the time otherwise there will be chaos. Of course when there is a power cut we will all be f…….d
EV drivers don't use public chargers. They charge from home.
@@pato10111 only if they have off road parking
I feel like in Italy f1 is supporters are with a football mindset as everyone supports Ferrari no matter the drivers
Haha taken 4 tests. When will the silliness end.