Adnan Syed, focus of 'Serial' podcast, details new evidence uncovered in 1994 murder case (Part 1)
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- čas přidán 18. 09. 2023
- Adnan Syed, the man whose conviction was overturned for the 1999 killing of Hae Min Lee in Baltimore, held an extended press conference on Sept. 19, 2023. He offered new details in his case while calling on Maryland officials to investigate misconduct in office.
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How the hell Jay didn't get any prison time is beyond me. Adnan is not telling us anything that follow this case don't already know. I don't know if he killed Hae. But I know that Hae and her family deserve justice.
I went to school with both of them I never liked Jay at all
Whether he’s innocent or guilty, I can’t believe his lawyers are letting him speak publicly like this. The case is not over.
Many have been saying that he is guilty that's why he himself isn't saying anything about his case... now that he did, many are not happy with it... I don't know what can this poor guy do about these mentally unstable people... 🥴😆
That’s more so during a trial that it means something. This isn’t under oath, it could be used later, maybe, but if he’s not currently on trial than it’s probably a good thing to advocate for yourself
@@truth3554did he give evidence at his own trial.
He likes the sound of his own voice.
Anyone who can strangle someone to death is mentally unstable.
This guys memory is fantastic, when he chooses to remember.
He likes the sound of his own voice? If he used his lawyers you’d be saying it was a sign of guilt. There’s no pleasing people like you. I’m sure after being wrongly incarcerated for over 20 years you’d have plenty to say.
No... He did it.
He is guilty. There is so much misogyny in the world, I guess he justifies it.
What proof do you have ? What day was hae killed ?? We don’t knowb
@@joerabotte5023 An eyewitness/accomplice in Jay is very strong. It doesn't matter if Jay was caught in lies, generally. The paper trail of THIS is strong. Jen KNEW about Hae's murder - went to the police BEFORE cops even knew where the body was because Jay told her. There was NO WAY for her to know otherwise. Jay knew where the car was. Adnan was a spurned ex, tale as old as time.
Misandry youean
@@ogurenedebaki2044 Nope I meant what I said. Misogyny.
80 members of the community signed witness statements saying you were at the mosgue,but didnt give evidence because you were not there. Where were you Adnan, you still don't remember..Your memory is brilliant
He’s not concern with finding the killer. Not a word about that. Allegedly there’s someone out there who frame him but he doesn’t care…
He also stopped calling the victim after she disappeared and changed the story about how he got to school and why he supposedly didn’t have a car that day several times. If only all murder cases were this easy.
Of course he has no interest in finding the killer - it’s him.
Watch the press conference before commenting... he did talk about finding the real killer... stop embarrassing yourself.
You sound silly, did you even listen to the press conference?
He's the killer!
the murder case is from 1999 not 1994 as the title suggests
Guilty as sin.
The fact that any jury believed the states case the first time is baffling to me . We do not know when hae was killed
Why the fuck would you expect to find the killer's DNA on the bottom of her shoes?
None of the items has his dna also the red ribbdons found at the scene none match his close
@@supremercommonder Cases have been solved long before the advent of DNA evidence.
@@ahmaudarberywasaviolentkle8094 😂 based on what fake cell tower and Jay dodgy testimony are you a troll paid by one those dodgy prosecutors
@@ahmaudarberywasaviolentkle8094
Probably a lot more innocent people went to prison pre DNA
@@opaljk4835 Just because someone is talking about DNA doesn't mean that science is on their side. Ask yourself if this is relevant.
I don’t know why didn’t check the dna 🧬 on other suspects like the one who helped to bury her, they kept focusing on him only and that’s a huge mistake
Why did ABC 7 cut the conference short where as other news channels showed the entire press conference in its entirety SMH
He legit wrote im going to kill on top of her letter
i’ve been studying this case for a month now. Not a long time, but with the amount of thought i’ve put into it..
i don’t think he’s guilty
His DNA was not on a pair of shoes in the back of her car. Wow. That’s the evidence. This is bonkers. The dude did it. Has there ever been a more clear cut case?
I know. I can't believe that ANYONE thinks otherwise.
Whaaasaaast? What evidence is there that he did anything??????
@@joerabotte5023 What an absurd question.
I'm surprised this guy got let out.. Waay too much evidence showing he's guilty
How ? No DNA WAS FOUND OF HIS ON THE BODY ??? Sooo how what evidence ? That a friend of his said he killed her ? What if he killed her ? Like u suck at being a crime junky 😂
@@lexlexlex5188he wore red gloves..
Red fibres were found..
Those red fibers never matched any of his cloths why you making shit up no dna no clothing nothing
He may have done it, but no way I could convict on that sketchy ass evidence.
Really? What is the evidence?
He said absolutely nothing. If any of you would take the time to go through the case piece by piece, you would see he’s guilty. The evidence is overwhelming and when he’s re-tried he’s going back to prison where he belongs.
He said a whole lot of nothing or you weren’t listing ? Did you not hear the evidence that was found of female at the sight of where body was found ?? Besides her. Did you hear how they provided a plea deal and tried to hide this evidence. Did you hear about the attorney trying to hide this and make it seem like he was guilty covering Kevin having secret meetings . I mean damn you are slow if u got nothing
U are ridiculous
It seems like there is more evidence against Jay. What evidence are you referring to?
Honestly, what the fuck are you talking about? I’ve only listened to the first 30 minutes and he’s already listed multiple examples of egregious prosecutorial misconduct. These alone should be enough to have the case thrown out. He may or may not have done it, but one thing is clear…the prosecutors played dirty, and don’t deserve a conviction in this case. And there is clearly at least a reasonable doubt as to whether he murdered her.
He debunked all evidence used against him
Guilty or not guilty. I don't really care. I just hope Hae's family finds peace or something close to that.
can you imagine killing someone and then having the temerity to call that person your friend? Think she would refer to you as a friend, Adnen? Remember you choked her to death.
These two pieces of evidence are incredibly weak - presenting these now is pathetic.
What strong evidence is against him
@@supremercommonderhe’s guilty asf
@@holly.7971you just solved the case... what an eye opening evidence. 🥴
@@holly.7971 yet can’t even show why
@@supremercommonderhis phone pinging at the scene of the crime the day after she went missing and then again after Jay got arrested.
I want everyone to think about this.... Adnan served life... The price has been paid.... So my question is.... If you feel like he did it... What reason would he have to do this at all.... He lost the case and served life... And still goes out of his way to clear his name even after the punishment.... Not to avoid it.... He took it on the chin..... And is still passionate about it.... Not something a guilty man would do.
He did it.
But he debunked everything used against him
Guilty, but not a risk to society. He asked her for a ride that day and then later claims the day was unremarkable. If his family and community didn't do so much for him, he'd probably have come clean by now.
Yeah that comment about the day being unremarkable bothers me too. He let a kinda-friend borrow his new phone and car for the day, ex girlfriend goes missing and he gets questioned by police that day.
That would be a pretty memorable day for most high school kids.
This is a very good point. Adnan is unequivocally guilty but all these yahoos who are supposedly trying to help him are forcing him into a corner so he can never admit that he did this.
What's the deal with Jay ?
I thought his voice would be deep 💀
seriously I thought that too
Poor guy. I've seen killers.... I even grew up with one in my house.... My uncle Reese.... Hes serving life for murder.... This man's no killer... It's not in him.
Adnan is guilty, go back to prison!
Whether proper procedures were followed or not? Whether the prosecution proved his guilt beyond a shadow of a doubt or not?
@@MrDayday4641 Proper procedures WERE followed. The prosecution DID prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt. Adnan has ALREADY been convicted and his appeals have been exhausted.
Bilal was also part of tbe plan..he got Adnan the cell, Jay the get away driver. Rabia knows he's guilty too but profiting of the case and the attention it gets. To be honest even Rabia's brother might of known Adnan ls plan too.
There's no evidence that he did it...
What? Go get help.
@AjAj-yb2zb no evidence...please leave that for the people who only rely on serial and Rabia as their source and never look into the case. So they focus on adnan who has no evidence against him instead of the Black kid with priors...is that what you want me to believe happened here 🙄
I think neither Jae or Adnan did it. I think they used Jae against Adnan. They I'm sure threatened Jae with drug charges to make up a story. How do we know Jae knew where the car was we don't? The Police could have given him that info. There were multiple calls to the Police about an abandoned car. They knew exactly where the car was. If Jae recants it points the finger at Jae they put Jae in a position of guilt. He had his car and phone. I'm sure he probably sold drugs using his vehicle and threatened him with drug charges to make up a story. Not to mention that Haes family is hell bent on convicting Adnan. How do we know this wasn't an honor killing. Hae was not allowed to date? They need to look at the family or family members. Clearly the way she died DNA of the murderer would have been found. You can't sit here and believe that Adnan and Jae were capable of unaliving someone with NO TRACE OF DNA. They were 17 yr old kids whose lives got messed up because of their skin color. The thing about Pakistani ppl is they use their time wisely wether in jail or out. He did the right thing by educating himself it was him and him alone who got himself released. They KNOW exactly who the murderer was then and they know now but it looks bad on them hence Murphy covering her ass. If ppl still believe that he is guilty u guys have no idea how much Police mess up cases on a daily basis. How many murderers walk because of negligence
Sounds like a prom king who strangled girlfriend
1994?! Can we at least get the title of the video factually correct. Adnan and Hae are my age and this happened my senior year of high school....in 1999.
Adnan...Steven Avery never takes issue with Brendan Dassey....you never take issue with Jay. Why do you think that is. Personally I think you do not want upset Jay, because he knows the truth. Prove me wrong.
Guilty
How
Facts over feelings he's not guilty
He is guilty. Listen to The Prosecutors Podcast.
how did he know where the body was and why didnt Jay get jail time? who clearly knew where the body was burried
There’s a good documentary that explains it all, it’s called “The case against Adnan Syed” it’s explains everything up until about 2019 so before his release but it’s very interesting.
The body was found way before Jay's first interview, literally the country knew where the body was found because it was on the news.
Real savages wouldnt still be talking about about the victim.... Time served... Gg. They damn sure wouldnt go this hard to clear it up after the fact .... I listened to serial.... Dont think he did it..... Got shafted at trial.... Perfect storm.... Sloppy work all around that trail.
Unless he’s the best actor ever I don’t think he did it. Most people don’t refer to the family, victim by name, etc…he does all of the above and seems to say with conviction. He’s never dropped his story in years or being in jail. However all that time alone could have shaped him into being ready to lie through life. But I read in prison he was teaching religion and helping other inmates. This is a tough one but I’m leaning he’s innocent
He has had 24 years to practice and his mind tricks are especially effective on weak-minded people
He killed her.
Prove it
@@supremercommonder look at the evidence. I don’t have to prove anything. Do enough research and there is it.
@@mauiswift6391 all the people that accuse him don’t bring proof
He did!
@@holly.7971 convince me than
Adnan is so eloquent and well spoken even when emotions rise. He is so respectable and has remained this way over so many years.
Except when he murdered the girl
I wonder how the victim in the case would speak today..
You sound so smitten.
He's a convicted murderer. And rightly so.
@@woodywoodpecker1497he’s not in jail anymore. Get over it
@@Caitlin-hl1fv do you have proof? Or is that just an opinion?
@@EmJane995 do you have proof lol..
He is a convicted murderer.. What more proof do you need.
My brother this world is like a prison. Never expect justice from these folks. Only the almighty is just rest will always disappoint you. May allah swt make your affairs easy.
He isn’t innocent
It's only a prison to you.. Everyone else is having a normal life.
@@woodywoodpecker1497a baby born in prison too considers it normal. Not your fault.
Lol, thanks for the sermon.
Look at this guy lying.
Awww he's the victim now. Poor Adnan.
What a beggar
..jhonestly..you are so brave giving this presentation.
If you had a retrial,would you give evidence. I doubt it.
I don't believe a word this guy says. I still believe he is guilty AF.
A "false argument" does not and should not discount the evidence in this case, that points to nothing short of guilt. The more and more this guy runs his mouth, the more it is presumed he is guilty.
he did it. he got out but he did it. he was young, thought he was in love and when faced with losing and being hurt he committed an unforgivable act. Adnan you did it, i hope you wont find peace and when you try to sleep you are reminded of what you did. you are not a victim.
👨⚖️ ~ If there was never a podcast about this trial then we would never know about the prosecutor misconduct when he convinced a witness to not show up to an appellate court hearing. In fact, imagine how much would never have happened.
Even though I have a lot of problems with more left-leaning people, right wing conservatives have trusted prosecutors basically 100% throughout history, and it has been more left-wing liberals that have said there is a problem with police and prosecutors.
Liberals are usually not left wing
The problem with the court of public opinion is it’s not a court at all and podcasts don’t need to worry about introducing bad evidence.
My heart goes out to you. What a difficult thing to go through. May you feel me peace. God Bless
Who ?
Any words of wisdom for the victim and her family... No..
@@woodywoodpecker1497 hey, an NPR podcast wouldn't lie to her! That would mean she wasted 8 hours of her life on navel-gazing and that's just not something that happens to smart people like her
E Anne Benaroya also needs to be questioned about making a false statement to a judge about Jays criminal record
I think he should go back to prison JUST for having that ridiculous looking goat beard. Cut that idi-tic thing off, for f*cksakes!
Aww..hows Haes health..poor you.
Nothing new. All of this has been heard and even adjudicated. Unless the DNA comes back to a credible person of interest or was found in a more intimate place than on her shoes, it seems irrelevant.
Am I crazy or does his voice in this video sound nothing like his voice in the podcast…?
Yes, the prosecution bungled some aspects of the case, however, anyone who knows all the facts knows that Syed is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
I know all the facts and I don't come to a beyond reasonable doubt that he's guilty. To many unanswered questions
@@bobbyflynn3771 Like what?
@@milart12why there is no DNA evidence connecting Adnan to Hae’s murder? Why did the detectives not test the bottles near the location of the body? Why the cell phone towers don’t match up? Why Jay’s story kept changing? Shall I go on? You have a right to your opinion, but law is based on evidence, not opinion.
@@bryanscollick8305 Most murder cases do not involve DNA. Perpetrators leave behind DNA in fewer than 10 percent of murders, according to The Innocence Project. Didn't you know that? This case belongs in the 90% of the cases that do not include DNA.
Why didn't the detectives' test bottles near the murder scene? Haha. Thats a good one..
The cell phone records do match up and the issue that incoming calls are not reliable to determine location has been debunked. Didn't you know that?
Jay is frustrating, I will admit. But the spine of his story has never changed. Adnan enlisted him to pick him up after he murdered Hae, chauffer him around and finally to assist in burying Hae. Most of Jay's inconsistencies have to do with worrying about his drug past and protecting his relatives.
And of course, I realize that the law is based on evidence. Adnan was convicted and has lost all of his appeals.
Your last statement is very odd. Aren't you offering your opinion that there is, in fact, reasonable doubt or God forbid, that Adnan is innocent. In either case, your judgment is very poor.
You're not saying that the prosecution proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was guilty, right?
Guilty.
Prove it
Adnan is so admirable and well spoken. The amount of prosecutorial misconduct in his case is disgusting. Kevin should sit in jail for 24 years.
What is the attraction for women and killers..
@@woodywoodpecker1497 Amount of energy invested in releasing guilty murders is sad
Or is this Rabia.
@@woodywoodpecker1497some men are so jealous .....you must be under 6ft I get it 😂😂😂😂
He’s guilty.
The only thirng that really makes me cringe about adnon at that time..... He was a volunteer emt...... He would of knew how yo stop her heart easily... And it was manual strangulation with no prints.... A emt would have gloves..... Thats the one spooky fact for me.... He was a emt.... He woulda knew how to do it. I cant ignore that.
The fact that he only refers to her as a close friend is a dire indicator that he killed her. It’s so obvious and anyone whose fault the story.
i think he refers to her as a close friend because for a bit before she was murdered they were not dating but remained friends, close friends. I think he’d rather call her a close friend instead of an ex girlfriend because it sounds a lot more respectful.
blinking a lot means you're telling a lie. Why did he drive by the burial scene after Jay got arrested for a traffic violation but before the body was discovered? Perhaps to see if Jay had told the police about the murder - Crime Weekly got it right...
GUILTY!
Prove it
So for some reason his phone pinged at the murder site and at the site of the car disposal. Also, he never called her after hearing she went missing. Odd behavior for a "friend." Also, he wrote "I will kill" on her breakup note to him. Also Jay said he was called to help bury the body. And now he's innocent because his DNA wasn't on the bottom on her shoes? They should let him out because a 17 year-old served 23 years for killing his ex girlfriend, not because he is innocent.
You clearly haven’t followed this properly. If you had you’d know the mobile phone pinging was complete rubbish & shouldn’t have been used in court.
@@SelinaBeana Sorry, you are using arguments that have been obsolete for years. Multiple experts have since testified that there is zero reason to discount the mobile data. Quite the coincidence that the murderer's cell phone pinged at the drop site and the car disposal site. The story you have to tell yourself to avoid those facts must be convoluted af.
Something I keep seeing that he never called her.... You mean he never called her parents? Because she didn't have a phone. She had a pager that they never found.
So why would he call her parents?
Also Don, her current boyfriend, never called either.
I don't think that argument holds any water.
I cover gone over every transcript, imterview, evidents reports, forensics reports, professional testimonials, judge remarks, so on and so on..And done it three times over.
Adnan should never have been in jail and Hae is not getting justice because of the laziness of work from detectives and prosecutors.
You did all that work and came to the conclusion that Adnan is not guilty? That is nothing to be proud of.
AND your grammar stinks.
This is gross and a slap in the face to Hae's family.
he is guilty for sure, they both are
Justice for Hae 🎉He could never tell the truth he has to stick to his script Disgusting 🤮 at least he did 24 years for the crime. Hopefully he’ll go on to live a productive life. Id love to see a body language expert cover this
Justice for Hae is literally the first thing he said 🙄
Facts over feelings
Adnan did it.
Prove it
He sure did!
@@holly.7971 other than being stupid you gotta back your claims up
Maryland please send him back to jail. He did it. Its all over Reddit.
Oh, wow, if it’s all over Reddit then it must be true. 🙄
@@NoFear69262because to many coincidences points to him and his followers have to to mental acrobatics to come up with other killers
@@Rosyrose101 really? Did you know she had full lividity on her front? Which completely negates the story that she was in a trunk be ‘shown off’ to people. She was found buried laying on her side. It take lividity 8-10 hours to fully set so she couldn’t be buried at 6:35 like that said in the trial. Do your homework.
@NoFear69262 it's so funny you mention Lividity because actual crime proscecutors explained how NO WHERE in the autopsy it stated she had full frontal lividity using PROOF from the autopsy report..it said interior...which interior does not mean frontal. If you think I'm lying, go read her autopsy report.
This is another rumor spread by Rabia.
Even before this, when she said she had full frontal lividity..I though ok, they kept her at Jay grandma house until Adnan and Jay could bury her gtfo 😒
The manner in which she was buried also left a big clue..it was a shallow grave with some parts of her out means that the person who killed her was in a time rush and had to work fast because he was a h.s kid who needed to go back home
Solute classic, most killers who talk provide a really detailed description of their days events.
The they get to the time of the offence..
The it's all sketchy, I don't remember..
It's because they don't want to think about what they have done.
Nothing wrong with your memory Adnan..
This MF Did it!! And Jay Told that he did it. Detectives drop the ball but what do you expect from BCPD. I hope this Dude rest in Piss Water!!!!!!! R.I.P HAE
He’s talking procedure. Not facts….
He can speak as calmly as he wants - he is guilty.
I don’t know if he innocent but there is no proof he is guilty
Kevin Urick should have his license revoked. Before he destroys one more life and hurts one more family .
Who does he expect us to believe killed her then if he didn't.wish he wud stop bs
Everyone should listen to Crime Junkie's take on this case. In my opinion I believe he is not guilty. However, even if he is, he was 17 at the time of the murder and he served decades in prison, I don't see him as a danger to society. He did his time, let the man live his life. They should look into Jay and Bilal more
If you watch American nightmare, it clearly points out that police are sometimes driven by their own biases. Amanda knox is another case where the evidence didn't add up
I seen that podcast too.
I'm not sold on his Innocence but there is so much of a mess in this case between the investigation, Jay, his legal representation and questionable evidence that I don't see how one can be without doubt.
Ultimately I do agree that even if he was guilty he has served what 23 years? I know cases where people got shorter sentences than that for murder outright.
Look into Jay and bilal more...why,how.
What do you expect to find. The killer is staring you in the face but you want to look else where. Absolutely ridiculous.
Amazing man Adnan . God has blessed him with patience sincerity and a remarkable eloquence .
Amazing? He killed his ex gf. Sociopaths can be quite convincing.
That man.. Killed a young girl.. You say he is amazing..
@@woodywoodpecker1497 They're simple people from the ISB.
Yall cant see. The family met with Aisha. She had a crush on Adnan. Do you know what i would do for my highschool crush? Anything and Marry him.. Aisha was coached. Jay was a pawn thats why he got no time. His part was a farce made up by detectives to secure a conviction. However, sadly I believe Adnan and Bilal did this and Bilal organized it. Adnan was an emotional teen being led by Bilal. He has served time and grown into a different good man. Leave Adnan and his family in peace they paid for Bilals crimes. Let Adnan live normal now and if he is due any punishment well only God controls this. Good luck Adnan. Wish you a good rest of life
@@Trusttheprocessagain the family of the victim will never live another day in peace.
Adnan still refuses to admit what he has clearly done.
He is now choosing to use his freedom to attack anyone who plays a role in this case and will no doubt pursue a compensation claim. Even though he clearly murdered that poor girl.
He should be returned to prison and at the very least face another trial where all this Rabia rubbish can be put to bed.
This guy......
1994?.
If I'm ever wrongfully accused I don't want any of y'all as jurors on my case! This man went through the prosecution's case against him point by point with a thorough power point presentation and it's getting absolute crickets from the comment section. Tough crowd I guess🤷🏿♂️... but after listening to Serial, watching the HBO documentary and reading/watching any new information on the Internet; I'm leaning not guilty and at the very least have a reasonable doubt.
This guy is so clearly guilty and continuous to victimize Hae’s family with this BS.
Yes Adnan!!!!
Blah blah blah. This is not the way.
Then what is the way ?? To shut up and let others speak for you . Stop being a hater
Its an absolute shame the way this state has and is currently railroading this kid! He has Already lost over 20 years of his life even though the state presented the worst case possible. This is a problem when it comes to jury trials... most people jury folks included basically believe when a person is sitting in front of them in court that they are there because they are guilty. People of the jury automatically assume from the cops to the prosecutor they have done their job and this man/women is here because they are guilty. Every once in a while you get people on a jury that actually understand this man/women in front of them is actually innocent until the state proves to you the jury with very good evidence that they are actually guilty and not guilty until this man/women and their attorney prove they are innocent.
Damn his soo well spoken! So glad he has been freed
Bilal molested him and then convinced him to kill Hae.
Rabia made that rumor about full frontal lividity...go read the full autopsy report it says interior not frontal🙄 rabia spread rumors like it's gospel bc she knows majority of us won't check.please go read the full autopsy report. Or watch actual crime justice he showed it in the Adnan video.
Rabia also made up the lie about the cops told Jay where the car was.. she speaks as if it's facts whe. It's just her opinion/lies.
Guilt beyond belief
Um.. it says “anterior” which is the medical term for the front of something.
@cristonsolar2955 Interior definition--- situated within or inside; relating to the inside; inner.
Stop playing dum b
Adnan came with receipts!
Hahaha, did the ISB send you guys? So sad. Adnan will probably admit it when his parents die.
Im so so happt adnan is free idc what anyone says he did nott do it
Allah put him in jail.
He is using the word so. SO so so so much.
I do think he killed her. But I'm a person that also thinks 20 years or 25 years is enough time for a 17 year old to serve for the crime he committed. I don't think they should serve life without parole when they were juveniles.
I also don't think he got a fair trial. So I think he deserves one.
At the end of the day though, the family of Hae Lee is the most important and needs to be walked through this process with love and care.
He's using the word so a lot makes him guilty 😆 🤪
@@truth3554 😂😂 I promise that's not what I meant. Just that he's frozen in time and not used to speaking in front of people. My bad. I should have explained it better.
@@arianne494 what makes you think that he is guilty?
I think he did an excellent job, speaking for such a long time would make most people stumble much more. I always believed he was innocent after he refused the plea deal which meant he could have been released years ago but he refused to say he was guilty.
Mr. Adnan you are like the Yousuf of Quran / the Joseph of Bible , who was sent to jail for many years in Egypt.
After coming out of jail Yousuf helped Egypt during the famine .
You too could help America , that has a famine , not of grain but of good moral ethics .
i am almost certain he did it
Jay wilds was never investigated and charged …
Lazy detectives
Of course he was. Do you believe that Jay did it as opposed to Adnan?
@@milart12Yes.
@@harveythecat Tell me exactly how. I will give u a head start. Hae leaves Woodlawn high school to pick up her cousin and then....
@@milart12 …he killed Hae.
@@harveythecat Haha There u have it. I am convinced.
Guilty