Julius Jones Case Analysis | Innocent on Death Row?
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- This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of Julius Jones?
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There should be a law preventing Kim Kardashian from interfering in anything requiring logical thinking and a rational mind.
Next Kim will be running for president and Jenner her vice!
Yes there should be! great idea.
Yeah, you are right! Holywood should stick to what they know….pretending to be someone for my amusement😜
She wants criminals to be freed to create new victims. She should be dealt with as one of those criminals IMO. If I lost a loved one or watched as a guilty person was set free by one of these efforts, I'd be looking for payback.
That's why she failed her law exam
When you mentioned Jones' alibi, where his family says he was home at the time, you forgot to mention that 2 of Jones' attorneys signed sworn affidavits saying that he admitted to them that he wasn't home at the time, and the alibi was a lie. He also sent his girlfriend a threatening letter from prison trying to get her to change her story. As far as the "2 inches of hair", that's been debunked repeatedly. She wasn't saying his hair was two inches thick, she was saying it went down two inches below his stocking cap, which is consistent with Julius' hairstyle at the time of the murder.
I hate how people keep saying the description didn’t match. This guy is a doctor but didn’t bother to read the transcripts? Sounds like an idiot to me.
He is guilty - let him pay for his crime - he killed a man in front of his children
There are no sworn affidavits by Julius' court appointed attorneys saying his alibi was not what his family said. David McKenzie was just a piss poor excuse of a defense attorney and didn't present a case to defend Julius. He never even consulted or talked to Julius.
Also the description was that the shooter had a red bandana over his face and a half of an inch of hair sticking out of his stocking cap and his height was abt 5'6 to 5'8. (Julius is 6ft tall) Julius took a mugshot 9 days before the murder showing he didn't even have a centimeter of hair long enough to be sticking out of any kind of cap. There were two mugshot pics taken of him both before and after the murder. Chris Jordan had loose corn rows and side burns on his face and he is abt 5'8. He had hair that would've been sticking out of a stocking cap. Julius did not. That matches the description of the shooter, not Julius. Get your facts right.
@@isislaz lol... Go and read the CCOA of Oklahoma January 27, 2006 decision. Jones' attorneys testified under oath at the evidentiary hearing that Jones had advised them he was not at home at the time of the murder and that his parents were mistaken. Jones had an opportunity to deny these claims at the time and did not. It's all documented in the court's decision, along with Jones' own girlfriend giving testimony against him.
Stop lying.
You're mistaken. She did not say his hair was "sticking out", read the transcript! The witness said she saw a 1/2" to 1" of his hair below the stocking cap.
Exactly. This just means he didn’t have his stocking cap pulled down so far that it covered his entire hairline. She has said this in interviews and it’s entirely consistent with what she said at trial.
This is called a sideburn
This is the part everyone and there uncle gets wrong. Thanks you for pointing this out :D
So guilty he is!!
@@loganturner3895 yes he is guilty. Not because of the description but literally every piece of evidence including DNA evidence that links him to the bandana and is not a match for Christopher Jordan's DNA. The bandana that was found in Julius Jones' room wrapped in the ballistics confirmed murder weapon that was also linked to him the summer prior by his girlfriend who found it in his glove box and the mechanic who worked on his vehicle and found the gun, with the banana, and panty hose. He also used the same gun, same bandana in 2 previous robberies and a car jacking that Julius Jones himself plead guilty to.
The MOST guilty person I have ever seen in my whole life, has escaped justice. Our system is a scam.
I wouldn't go as far as to say that. He now is serving life without parole His clemency hearing is over and he will never get another crack at it unless the Oklahoma voters decide to amend their constitution, which is VERY unlikely. Even the governor was unable to grant him the possibility of parole because of the state constitution. Jones is now out of appeals and clemency hearings, so he's going to die in prison. On top of that, he will now be in the general population and no the isolated death row, and being a fully inducted Blood he is going to have to be a LOT more careful. Who knows how he'll fare in there, but he's not getting out.
those social media influencer blended over the justice, so sick of those xx lives matter movements,
Don't kid yourself. There are more bare faced murders who've gotten away with it past, present and future.
Sounds like another situation where the guy on death row is being adopted by rich celebrities or media companies despite tons of compelling evidence that they are in fact guilty. See also: Rodney Reid, and Kevin Cooper.
I'd like to see an analysis of what causes celebrities to do this kind of stuff in the first place.
because they want to be woke and for the people and like , like , omg , hastag free so and so
Idiocracy
@@drbqqq1433 So very true.
Don't forget Pervis Payne and Brandon Bernard
All have alliterated names lol conspiracy!!
I heard a different narrative, a critical point: the shooter didn’t “demand” anything. He simply walked up and shot him in the head as he was opening the door!
That is the way it happened
Awful, repehensible, evil.
Great work, fairly objective. Just a few points to note ...
1. The apprent "racial slurs" were the use of the word "prowl".. and all other evidence is non existent. Not that it should change anything.
2. Julius never made the claim of the racist threat until the latest "documentary"
3. The hair was referring to the hair outside of his cap... this is congruent with her story and NOT suspicious or contradictory at all.
“The fact is, Julius Jones murdered Paul Howell in cold blood in front of his sister and daughters. No celebrity imploration or profusion of misinformation will change that.”
This is 🤡 world . I appreciate your work but fighting back against this craziness and remaining objective is hard as the media are lying soo much.
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Thank you for clarifying this. I had wondered what the so-called slurs were. I mean they will say its a slur if you call a killer an animal, or a thug.
I like most of his analysis, this one was absolutely lazy and he pushed false information throughout this 18 minute video
@@Nothingtoya what was false?
@@stevenhair3250 that the description didn't match for a start and it's by far the most important thing that doubters ha e been using as evidence of his innocence.
I’m sad for the man who died. He looked like he was happy and looking forward to a lovely future.
yes, that's what I was thinking.. So sad he lost his life.
Paul Howell was only 45-years-old when he was shot and killed in his own driveway in front of his sister and two young daughters.say his name ; Paul Howell
@@ExtremePacifist Thats what I was thinking. Its sad he got killed infront of his kids.
He is innocent. None of his DNA was at the crime scene.
@ yes it was
you missed the part about the victims sister identifying julius. she was very clear on which of the two suspects pulled the trigger. she was clear and never changed her story. the daughter said she waved to him as he approached the car which Julius later confessed to whoever he was going to sell the car to. that makes it open and shut beyond s reasonable doubt imo
yeah, there really isn't any doubt in this case, sure Jones had bad legal representation, but that doesn't equal doubt.
Yes. She never said his hair was one inch long. They went over this in trial.
What a tragic, senseless loss of life. This must have been so traumatic for Paul’s family. RIP 🤍
It was just cold-blooded murder. The keys had already been handed over. The man was just enjoying time with his family and didn't want any trouble. So many jackings end in murder because the criminals in question have little to no self-control and are full of hatred and anger.
@@smackedinthejaw it’s so cruel and unnecessary. A material possession is never worth someone’s life. I think you’re absolutely right. They made the choice to kill him and for what? It’s infuriating
I agree with your conclusion. Unfortunately, his actual guilt has taken a back seat to what color he is, like so many other things lately. He's less of an individual than a symbol. It's so stupid.
@ That doesn't mean he didn't do it, given the mountain of other evidence against him.
@ dude you just spam post the same comment everywhere. Are you some kind of special ed? What about the balistics matched to his weapon in his room? Where did you learn about the case? Not the actual source material I would guess. No probably some dumb podcast.
The DNA did not match 3 people.
The DNA match was 1 in 100 million.
Also, the GF testimony counters the families.
And the testimony from one of the individuals Julius tried selling the car to included the story of the daughter waving at Julius before he shot.
Something it would have been impossible for him to know at the time if not for Julius telling him as the daughter had not told that event at the time.
Doing a further deep dive only solidifies Julius's guilt.
Also 12 different appeal reviews have gone over the evidence and denied the appeals. The guy is dead to rights even on a cursory examination of the evidence.
110 million.. Yeah he glossed over the DNA evidence which absolutely buries this Julius clown because he's been claiming for decades that the DNA would clear him lmao..
The dna matched 3 people including the man that testified Nd they found dna long after the trial started..ton of reasonable doubt why are you making up stuff , are you racist or sumn??
@@theoo149 Nonsense, there is a 1-110 million chance the dna found on the bandana wasn't from Julius Jones.. Jordans DNA was not found on the Bandana..
@@dannicatzer305 the dude literally just read the case jordans dna was found on the gun dude and he was the only one that testified after lying to thw xops about touching or seeing a gum lmfao like i said you making stuff up for whatever reason i think ya racist honestly...plus the jury was racially motivated if you didnt watch the video dude states black juror werent allowes for being vixtim of crime or commiting crime but 3 white jurors were allowes even with 2 or more felonys...if ya racist just said tht dude so i can stop typing to you
When the murder weapon is found in a bandana described by the witnesses to be worn by the murderer and it is found in Jones' apartment with dna that is a 1 in 100,000,000 match, its kind of hard to think anyone else could have done it
Say you didn’t watch this video without saying you didn’t watch the video
Yes, but I keep reading the real murderer confessed to the murder and framing Jones
@@BIGmechD what are you talking about?
@@Thekozmonautu from other sources that have been talking about the dna, the degraded dna samples weren't enough to identify but were enough to exclude Chris Jordan as a possible match.
Well truth and justice do not matter to the Left. It's about a racial victory for Black Americans 🥳🎊
Paul’s poor family - especially his little girls. There are some true sociopaths among us.
So very true. No one can escape their fate. Evil is gonna find it`s victims.
That would be 40 to 60% of our population are mentally ill , mentally off psychos, crazy, wacos and abusers abusers as in emotional abusers physical abusers mental abusers.... they are everybody's neighbors they are in our workplaces they are some of our family members etc etc
ya and they all WHITE AS HELL
@@litrogue6328 Racist with horrible grammar
Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.
My problem here is that only one man really did the time. I'm convinced Julius was a participant, but more like 70/30 that he pulled the gun, which falls short of reasonable doubt. That being said, I don't think either man should have gotten away with serving just 15 years and both really should have gotten life, regardless of who fired the gun.
Classic line from Baretta😊👍
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Do they have the death penalty where you live?
@ his dna was in the murder weapon and cloths described by the witness with his dna on it, he’s guilty
I really like how Dr. Grande tells us whether he thinks someone is guilty in reality and then if he thinks they’re guilty according to the law. It’s interesting because the two aren’t always the same so I enjoy listening to the case from these perspectives.
Yep. Also morally correct and legally correct don't always go hand in hand.
@@IamCanadian3333 Sure sign of a decaying society.
@ his DNA was all over the weapon
@ Just on the bandana he wore that was wrapped around the murder weapon found in his closet.
@@thomaslt5547 DNA was found on his bandana at his home 2 days after the crime happened. Stop spreading lies.
Kermit suggesting his competitor Miss Piggy down the street is just pure comedy gold.
And your profile picture made it even funnier 🤣🤣👏🏽👏🏽
@@crystald8465 yes!! Meep
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An eye for an eye but still that’s a harsh sentence but when compared to Paul’s sentence just for getting ice cream it seems fair
Nothing wrong with an eye for an eye. Just cus Christianity says it is bad doesn’t mean it is
@@Me-ji2pn firing squad should come back lol
@@austinlemonty4113 Nah. I think all cruel punishment should be removed. Nobody deserves to be killed in that manner regardless of their actions.
@@Me-ji2pn That line is literally taken from the Bible.
@@hip-hopfan9153 this is just virtue signaling. cool story you are for good things and against bad things. problem is that people with no morals will never give you that same respect. they will kill your kids in front of you for the paper in your wallet.
Look up Devon Tracy he has some amazing videos one of them is a three or four part “documentary“ and Julius Jones. he did that shit
Did Devon make it public or is it behind a paywall, cause as good as it is no one will be able to see it if they have to watch it on censored? I really wish he'd put important videos like that out publicly so that the blatant lies celebrity/influencers spread can have a solid video breaking down why they're not true.
@@Nightman221k He was on CZcams and unjustly canceled. But you’re right it is sad that it’s harder to spread the truth than all the lies
@@Nightman221k He can't post things like that on CZcams, he post small clips on a page called "for your eyes only" it's pretty much all he can get away with now.
Also he still gets a lot of viewers, he's the most watched show on censored besides Gavin (the owner)
@@Nightman221k Roberta glass investigations on CZcams is having him on her show soon, you should tune in! They've talked to each other once previously and it was a great conversation
@@MA__ Thank you for recommending me that channel. I watched their video about the West Memphis Three during my lunch break and could tell I was watching a true crime channel with actual substance. The people who act like those guys were perfect misunderstood angels make me sick when the evidence and their statements have always made me incredibly suspicious of them.
Influencer justice is a verryyy dangerous game.
This man is guilty as charged ..
No new trial needed !!
Actual Justice Warrior did a much more in depth analysis of this case that dispels most of the doubt about Jones’s guilt. I’d recommended watching that as well.
it dispels all doubt he just made a new one as well
Jones is guilty. No doubt about it. It's amazing anyone could think anything else. Especially with all the evidence. It's overwhelming. Not to mention he was found guilty by a jury of his peers.
Atheism Is Unstoppable has been doing even more in depth than AJW but he is now behind a pay wall to the misfortune of all of us. It's a crime that his videos aren't seen by as many as before.
I haven't watched it yet but I get from: the different stories the family tells, the fact the witnesses that were involved said he was at least in the car but his family lying and saying he was at home, the fact they're pushing a "racist" narrative which has nothing to do with his guilt or innocence, and the fact celebrities and BLM groups are behind the protests just proves the motives behind everyone's involvement to pressure the Republican governor whom of course they'll no doubt lable "racist" or "white supremacists" if he doesn't stop the execution, him reading from a script and lack of any new evidence says the man is guilty!
@@sufferedlearnedchanged an all white jury with one confirmed racist? Sure guy
He shouldn’t be on death row without another appeal. I think he’s guilty but it’s pretty clear that the state stacked the jury against him and screwed his defense purposely. Whether or not Julius Jones is guilty is not really the issue at hand in my opinion, it’s the precedent that’s set if we allow this kind of horrible “law” to be practiced.
I think something that a lot of people have difficulty coming to terms with is the idea that everyone deserves a fair trial and a strong legal defense, and that the end result of a trial is that you are found either guilty or *not guilty* and not guilty is not the same thing as innocent.
I wrote a paper in college regarding death row juries and the bias in jurors and if that violates the rights of the person being accused. Unfortunately it’s a real thing. Prosecutors try to tailor jury’s to the best of their abilities to get a guilty verdict and the death penalty. Studies have shown that black people and religious people generally oppose the death penalty. So when they are screening jurors they generally will try and cut them out, and anyone who opposes the death penalty. Unfortunately, that leaves mostly white men because they are the population generally for the death penalty. The question is does this violate the accused’s rights? And in my opinion it does. First, there is not supposed to be any discrimination based on race or religion. And secondly, there is supposed to be a trial by jury of your peers. When they state peers, that generally means a population of people who have the general mind set of the public. So when these prosecutors are tailoring the juries to basically fit a mind set, and discriminating against certain races and religions, that to me is a violation of the accused persons rights.
@@rebeccalafleur322 I know this is an old comment but, doesn't the defense (had he had a decent one) have the opportunity to screen jurors as well? or is that only in civil cases?
If you bring a loaded gun with you during the commission of a theft, and someone is shot and killed, you and your getaway driver should be charged criminally with murder / accessory to murder. I love that we have a high bar for burden of proof, but the investigators/ prosecutors sullied themselves trying to cinch the deal. When, IMO, the evidence stood on its own without either of the two testifying and getting deals from the prosecutors
I’m not sure it would have if Julius had an alibi and there was no proof of him at the scene. Either way I agree they should have made the case without involving such highly suspect criminals . Sounds like with his defence not putting on a defence - he would have been convicted without these two testifying
You are. It’s called felony murder
Hate to say it, but I think this is a rare case where immediately asking for an attorney actually *hurt* the suspect. It sounds to me like the police legitimately weren't sure who the gunman was and were looking to offer the first person who rolled a surprisingly great deal. I'm sure beyond a reasonable doubt that Julius was on the scene and a participant, but more like 70/30 (well short of beyond a reasonable doubt) that he fired the gun. Had Julius gone straight for a deal as merely an accessory, but not the gunman, he may well have gotten one. But you're right, I think in cases like this the prosecutors really shouldn't allow someone who is in reality just as responsible for a murder as the gunman to serve just 15 years.
@@chad3232132 It is never wrong to ask for an attorney and remain silent. Literally never.
What you’re referring to is 100% a thing. If someone dies during a felony (including co-conspirators), anyone involved can be charged with 1st degree murder. So this guy is guilty regardless.
Correction and the witness explained this in court and in an interview years later.
She never claimed the shooter had a half an inch of hair sticking out of the skull cap. They even asked her in court if she knew what cornrows were and if the shooter had cornrows and she said she knew and the shooter did not have cornrows.
The half an inch she described was the space between the scull cap and his ear where his hair was visible. Not the length of his hair.
5:11 I watch these videos while gleefully anticipating the deadpan sarcastic quips seen here! I rarely laugh at videos but there is something hilarious about the dichotomy between his appearance, tone, and subject matter, against the deadpan humor!
Well done Doc!
I love your humor and your analysis, Dr. Grande. Bendiciones. 🙏💙
I started watching this dude like a month ago and it’s taken me up until now to see all the sick burns he is always handing out. He hardly changes his tone and inflection when he is dropping a burn so they can be easily missed by if you’re paying attention you can’t miss them. Oh and his analysis videos are awesome too lol.
He got his facts very wrong in this video jones is undoubtedly guilty
like miss piggy in this one
Right?! Dr. G is the king of dry humor.
@@strwbrywoman Jack Dee just entered the chat room....
Just do your homework instead of jacking cars.
I'm sure it is easy for a middle class white person who has had a million breaks ( like me!) to say just DON'T! But what is the reality of others? What are the temptations, the bad luck, the ease of slipping into crime! The extra hardship of grades and expectations and racial slurs! Etc!
@@bthomson it’s not hard that hard to not be a criminal
@Bruce Thomson what a sensitive intelligent and thoughtful comment!❤
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@@bthomson moronic gibberish.
Dr. Todd. Love your content, brother. But we are missing some very specific pieces of information on this one that’s only contributing to people continuously believing in this Man’s “innocence”. Actual Justice Warrior has done some great work on this one.
Celebrities need to keep their noses out of things that they don't understand. Fair trial or not he is legitimately guilty and must face the consequences of his actions.
Sarada, I agree with you for the most part because I think in popular culture today, many celebrities attach themselves to high profile cases because of the publicity it brings to them over any good it will do for the person they are supposed to be advocating for. That said, perhaps one of the first times a celebrity took this stance was when Bob Dylan released the song 'Hurricane' in 1975, over 45 years ago, that documented the facts about the conviction of the champion, middleweight boxer, Rubin 'Hurricane' Carter and his friend who were arrested for a triple murder that happened in a bar in New Jersey. Carter had been in prison claiming his innocence since his arrest in 1966 and would eventually have his conviction overturned in 1985 at the age of 48. Because Prosecutors, for the most part though not always, are elected officials, how they are percieved in dealing with justice and more importantly perhaps, injustice, can be a career breaker. Dylan's song in and of itself did not secure Carter's release but he had a huge following among young voters and certainly raised public awareness and pressure from the public for Carter to be exonerated. So, this was a case of a celebrity inserting himself into a situation but doing something proactive to encourage the prosecutors and the public to take a closer look at what seemed, and in fact was, a complete travesty of justice and false arrest. Dylan set the bar high at a time when there was none of the technology enabling social media and communications that exist today. He used his head as well as his name. It is a pity these younger celebrities are unable to look back and see that this is one of the better ways of helping someone if you insist in becoming involved. Dylan most certainly did not have any personal agenda other than to get the song out there. I agree with you though about the outcome of this case and think this guy is where he should be, behind bars!
I don’t like Kim kardashian but she literally does have a law degree if I’m not mistaken…. like I’m sure she has an understanding of things. You on the other hand……
@@hannak3233 Actually you are mistaken. Kim Kardashian has taken her first year 'baby bar' exam twice (in 2018 and 2020) and failed it and can not commence with her law studies without passing it. She plans to take it again in 2022 but at this moment she holds no legal qualifications whatsoever. I don't know if your comment is directed towards me or the person who made the original comment. I do not claim to have a law degree myself which, last time I looked was not a prerequisite to making a comment on this channel or any channel. I merely made the generalisation that if celebrities insert themselves into the publicity surrounding a high-profile criminal case that may involve a wrongful conviction, that they do it for the right reasons and that their subsequent actions in the matter reflect this as was the case with Bob Dylan in the Rubin Carter case. It should never be a personal attention seeking and falsely altruistic intrusion only to shed light on themselves more than anything else and there are certainly high profile people who do this in all kinds of situations. Attention by proxy!
@@dearbh1736 Interesting points, but... Bob Dylan as a "celebrity" is kind of an insult. I know in some sense he is, but it's just disturbing to think about him and Kim Kardashian in the same train of thought.
@@michelesmith2620 😂 I hear you Michele but Celebrities come in all shapes and sizes. Wikepedia defines it as follows: 'Celebrity is a condition of fame and broad public recognition of an individual or group as a result of the attention given to them by mass media.' So, technically Bob does fit the bill although if he heard me saying it he would cut my nose off. 😂 I am just trying to make the point that you need to be a person with integrity first and celebrity second if you are going to insert yourself into a situation like this. If you are being truly altruistic and using your status to connect with important people who can help with the particular case then that's a way of turning your celebrity status into a tool for doing good without hoping it will ultimately shine a light on you for the world to see.
Thank you Dr Grande , that was great as always.
Julios doesn’t have an alibi, he made two separate statements to two different of lawyers of him, he was not home his family was mistaken.
More like straight up lied
We don't know of that! They could be lying
The half inch below the stocking cap is here describing side burns, this was covered in the trial in cross examination, she describes a half inch of hair between the bottom of his ear and the stocking cap, she was asked additional questing to clarify. His alibi included a teacher who provided documents that showed the "dinner" was the day before the incident, and were advised not to use the alibi because of this. You didn't mention the letters he sent to his girlfriend threatening her to not testify and to tell the police she didn't know anything.
I wonder how many takes it took Dr. Grande to make that Miss Piggy reference without laughing.
I heard it once without laughing.
@@eadweard. 😶😶😶😶😶
I learned about this because Kim Kardashian said Freejulius LOL... The man was a criminal with a long criminal sheet. Free nothing. He killed a man, kill him... Period!
So nice that not _everyone_ KK reaches is braindead.
Let's hope some of y'all never need any mercy. Whether he's innocent of this crime or guilty. You all speak as if you have never done any wrong. Just remember the same measure uou dish out is the same that will be measured back to you.
The Daughter saw her father get murdered by Juilius Jones, she described what Julius was wearing even down to the red bandana and white T-shirt. He's guilty plain and simple.
It astonishing how one damn fool can cause such destruction to a family and for nothing.
Feeling for those kids with no Father. Not so much for the stupid criminal. Almost ironic how Kim, the daughter of an Attorney who helped free a killer has to weigh in. She could go to Law School but was probably too busy with her fashion shopping. It's never too late Kim!
She could never keep that big butt in a seat long enough to study for a degree, much less a law degree.
In these celebrity 4 justice cases, I always wonder: do they ever contact the victims? Look them in the eye, talk to them about what they are doing, offer them some help?
@@floraposteschild4184 They don't even look at the actual evidence, just what the criminal spouts out and what his attorneys try to spin (lie) about. After looking into what the DNA lab had to say about how defense counsel was trying to spin the results it's no wonder criminal lawyers are considered snakes.
Paul Howell was only 45-years-old when he was shot and killed in his own driveway in front of his sister and two young daughters.
say his name ; Paul Howell
She is currently in a 3 year law program and was required to take an exam following her first year called the "baby" bar exam in order to be eligible to sit for the actual bar. She admitted on her show that she has failed it twice and is currently on her third attempt.
Paul Howell was only 45-years-old when he was shot and killed in his own driveway in front of his sister and two young daughters.say his name ; Paul Howell
I’d love an analysis of the Aaliyah Ramirez case!
She was just found hiding out of state with family, many of whom were very public during her disappearance
She never said that he had long hair or that he had corn roles. She said that there was a gap where she could see hair between his ears and stocking cap. This is not an inconsistency.
Its extremely common for the families of these criminals to always claim they were with them, they were home, they were in bed sleeping, yet strangely enough none of them ever go so far as to get on the stand since they know their testimony would be torn apart and they could face perjury charges. If my child was ever accused of a capitol crime, and REALLY was home with me eating dinner when it happened, I would stop at nothing until I had my day in court to tell everyone and I would give every detail down to what we ate, the dishes we used, the exact time of dinner, the weather outside, etc. Its a common ploy...exactly same thing with the shooting of Darren Goforth. the mother of the shooter said he was with her "shopping" to give him an alibi but would not go on record and never formally stated this under oath when the time came.
You can have a poor defense yet still be guilty as sin like this kid was. The defense rested because they knew it was an open and shut case and pointless. The fact Dr Grande claims there is a reasonable doubt when the evidence is overwhelming just makes him lose all credibility sorry.
I thought it was just a little lazy. Taking in news reports from both sides instead of primary evidence.
But when you look at the evidence the prosecutors bring vs the defense, the case is pretty open and shut, especially with the DNA evidence, which I found the direct results of.
I would love to see Dr grande just burst out laughing, like just a complete minute long belly laugh. I think that would make my life complete
Omg yeees I need that!
His subjects are too horrible to laugh. He would be completely discredited. He'll never burst out laughing. That would be disgusting. Only a psychopath would wish for this to occur!
@@meenki347 man chill, nobody said we want him to laugh ABOUT THESE SUBJECTS. just in general. Calm down ...
@@meenki347 not all of his videos are on murders etc he's done quite a few on celebrities' and youtube personalities
@@meenki347 I bet you’re fun at parties
“The prosecution says the DNA matched. The defence says it doesn’t”
There is a 1 in 110,000,000 chance that it’s NOT Julius Jones’ DNA. I know which one my money is on.
@ The DNA was found on the bandana he used during the murder and used to hide the gun at his house. Stop defending a murderer.
@@LukeScott74 @Looped Object 80% of exonorated convicts in Oklahoma were black. And the funny thing was... *EVERY* single one of them... cops lied, prostecutors withheld evidence, jurors were blatantly racist AND every single one of them... the public thought the accused were *10000% guilty.*
@@LukeScott74 the gun matched 3 peoples dna including the man that testified on him Nd was with him the day after the murder, Nd the dna was found weeks after the trial started...just say you’re incompetent
@@theoo149 lol... No. DNA testing, using more advanced techniques than were available prior to Jones' trial, revealed there was a partial DNA profile with a major contributor and at least two other possible minor contributors. The DNA of the major contributor matched Jones with a probability of 1 in 110 million. Jordan was not matched to either the major or minor components of the partial DNA profile. No conclusions could be made about the minor contributors because of degradation and allelic dropout. Just say you're a liar and move on, bro.
@@thesammyjenkinsexperience4996 not just one in 110 million. 1-110 million African Americans. There are 40 million African Americans in the United States.
His life really flew off the rails quickly after he started college. There are no winners in this sad story. Thanks for your analysis Dr. Grande!
Just goes to show you how influential the people you hang around with are. If you want to make something of your life hang around with people that have clear goals and a sound moral compass
He never played any collegian sport, he failed out of OU after receiving a GPA of .86 after the first semester, he wasn't on his way to return for a sophomore year. The hair argument and all other arguments are BS. You should look into things prior to making assumptions. Your generation are brainwashed and easily manipulated.
None of his DNA was at the crime scene. He is innocent.
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I'm kinda surprised convicted felons can serve on juries in the US.
Yeah no joke 😲
The last few years there has been a push to change it, but as far as I remember around half the states still bar felons from serving on a jury, the other half have certain requirements. Here in Cali they changed the law last year- felons can serve if they have served and completed their sentence including completion of probation or parole and no one on the sex registry can serve. I believe Maine is the only state where felons can serve without restrictions
Yes but apparently in this case only if you're white. The black jurors who had criminal records were not allowed to serve. Talk about stacking the jury in a trial involving three black men!
@@fuzzyfriendsrescuevoluntee3036 Thank you, I am Irish and we have a slightly different system here although if you have a criminal record and are called for jury duty you are meant to recuse yourself from the outset. I am not entirely sure how prospective jurors are selected but I am 56 and have been called up for jury duty three times in my life but never actually served because the panel was filled before I was needed, I am glad to say. The other thing you are asked to recuse yourself for is if you have any relationship with or any knowledge of the person who is about to stand trial. You would be surprised in District courts here how often the accused is known to a potential juror in some way! The comment I made here was in direct reference to what Dr Grande said about the jury selection for this trial and I am quoting directly here. 'During jury selection the prosecution eliminated a number of jurors who were black for reasons like, having been the victim of a crime or having committed a crime. The prosecution did not apply the same standard to those who were white, for example, one white juror had two felony convictions'. So you kind of have to wonder how that happened? Thanks for the explanation btw. Oh, I got my two dogs from a rescue a year ago. Love them to bits 💕💕
@@dearbh1736 It's not that they weren't "allowed" to serve, they were challenged by the prosecution and removed. Both sides' lawyers question potential jurers and can then have them removed from the jury without giving a reason.
I watched this process myself a couple of weeks ago when I was in the jury pool but never actually called to sit in the jury box. One potential juror was a serving police officer; he was asked several innocuous questions by the defence lawyers, then removed, which wasn't surprising to me, or probably anyone present in the court.
The “hair sticking out from the stocking cap,” has been purposefully misconstrued. The sister was talking about sideburns, not hair on top of the head.
@ you've repeated this lie in every thread, why? if you look into this case, you will find that you are wrong. julius is 100% guilty. sorry you were duped.
@ how much DNA does one normally leave behind at a shooting crime scene. His DNA was found on the red bandana that was worn by the shooter, which was wrapped around the gun that was used in the crime, hidden up in the ceiling of Julius Jones room of his residence. Additionally, Julius Jones's girlfriend identified the gun that she found in his car (the same gun was found by a mechanic, along with a carjacking kit), and Jonee claimed it was his gun he used for protection. Julius Jones also plead guilty to a car jacking with the same MO, that occurred within a week of the shooting of Paul Howell.
@@capitanclassic8624 Minor correction, mechanic found .25 cal ammo in the car. The gun wasn't present. The gun being his for protection was a statement he made to the girlfriend.
Otherwise spot on, the guy is dead to rights.
@ they found DNA that matched julius DNA in the bandana that had the murder weapon wrapped in it in his room
@@ziggy2652 you`re wrong. 2 weeks after the murder, they found a bandana with the murder weapon, and the DNA was tested 13 years later. Thats no evidence for murder. Stop spreading false information.
Love the purple. Thank you for the well delivered video (as always) 💜
That's lilac you philistine!!
@@eadweard. hahaha, very true!
Check Actual Justice Warriors video about Julius. It mentions a few key details that tend to get left out which definitely can change someone's mind.
Good analysis, Dr Grande. Thank you
Defense was asleep? In a coma?😂😂😂
You can't help it, Doctor Grande.
Love, love your CZcams channel. It's the one I watch and love most of the time. Such an intelligent source of information.
This is a tragic story of someone who had great promises and 2 children losing their father.
So right!😓
Yep, and for what? Nothing.
But both sides of the story resulted from bad decisions made by people on _one_ side of the story. ..... I am sad for the man who died and the children who lost their father, and much less sad for those who made "bad life choices" and brutally killed an innocent man.
It's a tragic story for the man who died, not that piece of shit Jones
For no fewer than a lot of times, I'm silencing those who think Jones is guilty, for I know that JJ is innocent, and those are the honest words I hope nobody can ignore.
At first the Miss Piggy joke went right over my head. I had to rewind to listen again and it's hilarious 😂😂😂. Great way to start the work day. Thanks Dr. Grande!
Please explain it to me!! I'm too dim to get it :(
I laughed pretty loudly in my car! Right before he said it, I had been thinking in the back of my mind, who is named Kermit anymore? 😂
@@Somegirl811 Kermit Gosnell?
@@eadweard. had to look it up, but yeah, that guy's 80. I mean nowadays, as in post Sesame Street. Interesting serial killer though.
@@Somegirl811 Oh yeah see what you mean. It's like you never hear of a baby called Bernard.
Brilliant video. Thank you Dr Grande.
Great analysisas usual Dr Grande!
I just knew there was a Kermit joke coming, lol
Yeah! But what a beauty!
Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals held evidentiary hearing on all of these matters and found there was no procedural error
This is most detailed explanation I've found yet. I've read several articles and only have gotten bits and pieces.
Love your channel!!!!
It's frustrating but understandable that he got some of the information wrong in this video. This case is a bit of a mess. I think he's 100% guilty. He should at minimum, be in prison for life. I don't think he should be killed though.
These people need to think twice before they kill an innocent man while on a crime spree.
That's just it, if they did, they wouldn't have done it, but they don't care.
Judging by their behavior, I don't think they're capable of thinking once. Thinking twice is definitely asking *way* too much.
As a former criminal investigator, who investigated and provided like evidence to both prosecution and defense, I can tell you it is hard enough to get a conviction just based off evidence (with no confession). However, based on what was found and where it was found, purposefully hidden (intent), and just everything wrapped together in a picture book of the case….reads like Julius most likely did it. However, defense lawyers are notorious for bringing up EVERY discrepancy, every possibility that the person didn’t do it…..and that usually is cause enough to say there is reasonable doubt. That should have been the bar the prosecutors, and evidence, had to surpass without any doubt. Remember “If the glove don’t fit, you have to acquit”? That defense move in the OJ case sticks in the minds of a lot of prosecutors of that time and the defense team in this case seemingly failed to play ball.
My problem with all of the celebrities jumping on board is….they, like many Americans, ignore the “other people”. No race, no color…..justice should be for every person falsely accused of imprisoned…..not just a select random few. It’s like the girl who was just found dead in Wyoming…….all assets, FBI, helicopters, national news coverage, but what about the 700+ indigenous children reported missing from 2010-2020 in Wyoming and Montana? What celebrity voice is demanding justice for our missing, killed and trafficked children?
Solution: Get involved. Be open minded and impartial. Have compassion for your fellow man. And seek peace. If we don’t, there will be war……and if you think “defund the police” is bad…….go to war and if you survive….come back and tell me you want more.
I pray for the outcome that is just. Only God and Julius know the real….entire truth. God be with you all!
Peace!
Good piece 👏
Dr. Grande, if you see this or not, THANK YOU for the jokes. They are seriously funny and I have a hard time not snorting with laughter sometimes.
He is definitely guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. The eyewitness didn't say he had inch long hair she said there was an inch of hair showing between his stocking cap and his hairline. And along with the red bandana that matched his DNA they also found the shirt and stocking cap that the shooter was described wearing. And the reason the family wasn't put on the stand to affirm his alibi is because there was so much evidence to the contrary. The day the family described was a day before the murder. His defense attorney stated he didn't want the family on the stand because it would damage their credibility if they were up there lying. And he knew it was a death penalty case and he wanted the family to stay credible in hopes of swaying the jury away from the death penalty. Yeah his attorney sucked, but that doesn't change the fact that he is guilty.
I think its fair to assume that criminals might run from police, even if they're not guilty of the particular crime the police are investigating
The aunt was the only adult to describe the shooter. The daughter relives the images of Julies shooting her father every day.
It's funny Julius even acknowledges he wasn't home. The family, that community, are just a lost cause.
He was home during incident
The person who killed Paul was Christopher Jordan
@@aaliyahdoctor949 no he wasn't. He was murdering Paul Howell during the incident because he murdered Paul Howell and there is overwhelming evidence to prove it.
@@CousinBowling while Christopher Jordan was in jail, he bragged that he killed Paul Howell and that he got away with it, Julius jones didn’t fit the witness description ( Paul Howell’s sister) I want justice for Paul Howell as much as you do but we have to get the right person to service his time and it’s wasn’t Julius who killed Paul Howell it was Christopher Jordan
Christopher Jordan set up Julius jones
Yes I too like to consult the expert witness Kim Kardashian when looking at the evidence against someone. What a joke
Wasn't the whole reason that her family was rich because her father was OJ's lawyer? That's some credentials for justice and innocence right there
@@MA__ lol Robert Kardashian was a lawyer. None of them are
Brilliant analysis xxx
Great work thanks
Although I think Julius was involved in this crime, his trial was exceedingly unfair. This case serves to highlight how criminal activity is effective in bringing destruction into people’s lives. What started as robbery, quickly turned into murder and the next thing you know he is on death row.
There is no way to predict who will and who won’t be treated fairly by the justice system, hence the only thing we can control is our own behavior.
Thank you for the analysis Dr. Grande.❤️
I am more outraged by the light sentences given to the co-conspirators than by the death penalty for Julius Jones.
Light sentences? For who, Chris "WESTSIDE!" Jordan, he got 30 years and served 15.He was a model inmate and did everything that he was supposed to and got credit for time equaling 30 year served based on Oklahoma Corrections calculations.
He cooperated with the state and turned state evidence.
Julius Jones just claimed to be a didntdo.
I was hoping you would do a break down of this case Dr Grande. Such a sad case but thank you for your analysis doc💙💙
Hi Dr. Grande. Great analysis as always. I have another Jones that might be interesting to analyze. Could you do an analysis of Phoenix Jones, and/or the possible personality factors of vigilantes?
That hair sticking out isn't something that would warrant a new trial, and a family alibi isn't credible,
This is one time i disagree with dr. Grande, but dr. Grande always gives a fantastic analysis
You need to reread the details about the description of the hair carefully. She did not say the hair was sticking out that far she said that's how much hair she could see under the cap. His hair was short but several inches of it were exposed at the bottom of the cap.
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She never said several inches was sticking out, she never mentioned corn rolls, you need to watch a video by "actual justice warrior' on julius jones the most recent one on him, he brings out the real transcript of what the daughter said and the what victims sister in court, they were very consistent about what they seen that night, in fact their testimony never changed
How do you get on a jury if you have a felony?
Ugh don't remind me. Here in California they changed the law last year. Felons can serve if they have completed their sentence as well as any probation or parole. You still can't if you're on the sex registry, thank god for that.
@@cissyiniguez Wow! Really? I'll have to see what our State laws are on it. They get the jury lists from the voter lists and I thought you couldn't vote if you were a felon. Sheesh!
A very fair and accurate assessment of the facts
nice plant placement :) cool analysis
Im watching that coffee cup.
I've always had a problem with guns that shoot themselves.
I get confused sometimes about who are the 'players' are.
Always interesting
I appreciate your opinions.
Peace
Always love your videos.
What an odd comment, I love it.
Lol!❤I'm loving this comment too!..I actually thought it was a poem at first!😁
Thanks Dr. Grande.
I'm still hoping for a Frank Zappa video.
You have not mentioned important thing. Jones had two lawyers, one resigned. On the other hand, both defenders under oath testified that alibi of Jones about eating cookies with his family was untrue and Jones said it to them.
So much in judicial system is unfair. Thanks Dr G😊💜💜 (& yes beautiful shirt!)
The hair issue is inaccurate. She describes the extent that the hairline extended below the cap, not the length of his hair.
Wow, he had everything going for him. It is sad that being a smart, handsome college student was not considered as cool as being a thief and a murderer.
i suspect drugs and alcohol or marijuana were involved.
@@jguenther3049 Marijuana? People usually just get sleepy and chill on that stuff
@@LeetoLydia This one had homework to do. Didn't get done. Chilled, instead. Classes to attend. Didn't show up. Too sleepy.
@@LeetoLydia have you seen any videos of gangstas? Have you ever seen a hood? Like srsly
@@LeetoLydia Some people "smoke a little weed", to others marijuana is part of a cultural scene, that comes with other lifestyle choices, some of which aren't legal.
“One of his competitors down the street. Miss Piggy”
I almost crashed my car LOL
Either way this dude is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. No one is their right mind would say this dude didn’t do it. He deserves what he’s getting. May god bring Paul and Julius family peace.
maybe we should try and instill in that practical culture that strong arm robbery is cooler than using a gun. Maybe fund some movies where the criminals just grab people or use baseball bats or something. Jazz it up with some popular music sex and fast cars. Julius Jones was just trying to fit in and doing what was expectable in his sub culture..... Like Judging Julius needs to be done with particular care revaluating the whole system Man ......... Like defunding police and putting the money into better movies makes a lot of sense .
You're joking right? This must be satirical
He committed strong arm robbery too.
Interesting analysis! Obviously Kermit was a key figure in Julius Jones' perceived sub-culture and Miss Piggy is nothing but trouble. Personally, I'm pissed that Julius chose to rob a pizza shop. Why a pizza shop? Surely there were other places with greater sums of money available. Did this guy harbor some resentment for pizza? Perhaps coming from a family where both parents worked he spent too many evenings eating take-out - cold, soggy, pizza. His childhood resentment may have stretched to Suburban's such as the one described in Dr. Grande's analysis. His contractor father probably drove a beater Ford pickup and his mother being a schoolteacher probably drove some little foreign shit car with garbage stereo system. You've got my vote to provide funding (grants?) to movie industry to be more creative with crime/action films. After all, life often imitates art!
Hey man, great idea to use some of that money from defunding the cops to make better movies. Today's movies suck! Look at how exciting Clockwork Orange was. Kubrick was the master of crazy crime. This Julius Jones case is uninspiring-downright lame. He paints a gun to look real and uses fake name. Meh. Maybe Dr. Grande should do some movie reviews.
Hi, Dr. Grande. Great video. Can you analyze Dylann Roof?
About the hair thing. She meant that there was a one inch area of head where hair would be exposed. Like it was sitting more on top of his head. She has never changed her testimony.
Thanks, Doc.
I'm so glad Dr. Grande that you expose the screw ups in our justice system.
Apart from this one that clown is guilty and the justice system operated as it should have...
@@dannicatzer305 I bet you know nothing about the case lmao prolly just a racist hah
@@theoo149 I know everything about this case... This scumbagg is as guilty as sin. Go on tell me about how he's innocent bro..
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A thorough case analysis. I feel like I understand both sides of the case now.
great breakdown.
This guy Julius was tempted by the thug life, and wanted to be part of it for easy money. A stupid decision when this guy murdered an innocent man and threw away a promising future for himself. Now he's reaping the consequences of his actions by being on death row. I have no sympathy for him.
My thing is..... if Julius wasn't the shooter? Why would he be the one showing up to the meetup in the suburban?
Was one of the commenters requesting more on innocent ppl being accused, highly interesting plus brings more awareness to an issue seemingly considered acceptable casualties of the current justice system in practice.
There should (of course!)be no such thing as acceptable casualties!!!
@@bthomson EXACTLY 👍👍👍
Toward the end he is lying about the description. The witness didn’t say he had hair sticking out of the wave cap. She described that the wave cap was up on his head above his hair line.