I’m INFJ and was a pilot/navigator in the Air Force 12 years. Had no idea why I had to work so much harder at it while being surrounded by amazing naturally talented people like this guy. It’s as if they are one with the aircraft and fly it like an avatar character, willing it to do whatever they need. I worshiped this type for a long time before I learned they were ISTP. Needless to say I am a therapist now. Much better fit for me.
Bwahaha that’s so awesome kudos to you for pushing through a career that isn’t a glove fit for you. I know, I’m an ISFJ working with a bunch of glorified mechanics in an automotive testing and development laboratory. I LOVE what I do just find it very difficult/uncomfortable to relate to most of my peers.
Double deciders should really consider being in fields with heavy personal interaction. The problem is we all want to strive to do the observer thing, depending on our particular whacked out observers. Letting go of the fact that we might never be the best observer to ever observe opens the door to do the boring people things that we are more balanced at.
@@IndieAuthorX Really well said and I had not thought of it this way. People work tends go so much better for me and has been more fulfilling in the long run.
As an ISTP, I don’t feel that I am better than any other type. Instead, I get confused as to why they aren’t as confident about themselves as I am about myself. I wish everyone the peace of mind that comes with self assuredness.
Well I think it comes with the Se ability to oversee everything that is happening and being able to react in the moment, plus Ti logic always at your fingertips. If you feel dizzy blurry and mopy, you have foggy vision and no clarity of mind, then you better not be too confident about "just acting" just like that.
I don't feel better than any other type holistically. Like, some people can do jobs day after day that would lead me to putting a bullet in my brain. Within a narrow band of situations, though, I can assess where other people are at, and if they're losing it and about to take us all down, I'm like, "okay, get out of the way, I've got it. MOVE. NOW! And STFU."
Totally. I mean, yeah it's a good personality to have in crisis and physical challenges. I have used it many times. But then try to talk to someone crying, manage a group conflict, or process negative feelings. In those situations it can feel like you have a personality disorder
Um yeh not so good in an NF crisis at all, and as females we are expected to be naturally sensitive and nurturing, something as an ISTP I struggle with.
@@rickrocks606 Firstly I wouldn't call an NF crisis a crisis exactly, and I guess I'm generalising because my answer relates to NF and SF crises. In my experience F crises tends to be caused by emotions, feelings and how others will perceive them during and after the crisis. I am obviously less emphatic and more likely to give advice which mostly makes me perceived as being insensitve and harsh 🤷♀️ And I'm actually suss you are a shill 😅
I'm an ISTP and once got kicked out of flight school because I did a low fly by over my parents house. It was extremely stressful and depressing, because I felt I had lost my identity. Took some time to get back up, but managed to change schools and became a pilot anyway :-)
"There's no thing problem you fcking nut" This reminds me of your feelings come later video that dropped around 2018ish! I quote it a lot! "As the plane was going down, what did you feel?" "I felt like I should land the plane." Glad you two go beyond the stereotypes in MBTI! It's so good to see more than just people using them as a bunch of fancy Hogwarts houses!
As an INTP, I always look to the ISTPs as what I might just be like if I didn't have to go SHIT, GIMME A MINUTE every time something hectic comes up and I have to figure out a bunch of options first. Your point about the Karens is spot-on, though, and explains why I find them so mind-wrecking...I swear the crux of lead Ti is the mantra "screaming doesn't fix the problem" even though, for them, kicking the can down the road and into someone else's yard is the whole game and DOES fix it for them.
As an INTP I feel the same, in stressful situations like that I don’t panic and freeze (or go batshit crazy) that way but I do keep second guessing my decisions which paralyzes me.
That is exactly it. My mother is an ISTP & I am an INTP. When we solve problems together she jumps into it immediately & rattles my brain because I can't answer the problem that fast. I need to find the right answer. She just needs to find any answer.
I’m exact type of Dave and I’ve also always had this natural respect and admiration for ISTPs. No matter their modalities or animal orders, they’ve always been very mature, very balanced and very unbiased. We can learn so much from them
@@srose1088 Truth. I live with one too and it is not necessarily a bad thing, it is just a comment agreeing that they are not unbiased. As an ESTJ, I have my thoughts too, so I understand. :)
Ya one of my best friends is an ISTP.. I'm an INTJ and he has this acuteness and awareness and ability to spot pertinent details that so far exceeds my own. I respect it a lot. I love his TiSe advice, and he comes to me for NiTe advice, it's a great friendship. They have Ni in their third slot also which I think helps them to understand and spot patterns on the fly. Great type.
This man did something heroic, and this type of stress an ISTP would endure better than many types over a sustained period, but when the fire starts you don’t have your personality type to use as a crutch. I am not a “heroic personality type, but have lived through some very real situations where someone had to stand up and take control. Again not my personality type at all, but to box people in to “this type can do this” is creating excuses for if a person has the character to stand up. Personality type from my experience is more how one deals with it after, and how long the pressure can be sustained.
Well, I never had to land a plane, but about I year ago I've realised I'm a fucking god behind the steering wheel. Cold winter morning, I'm driving in about a foot of fresh snow, with only a few tyre marks left by 40 tonn trucks. One of the ridges created by a truck threw my car sideways into the tree line. Me, steering with my left hand and holding a cheese patty with my right, not even thinking a second, and still chewing on my breakfast. Off the gas, get traction, counter steer, pedal to the metal, front wheel drive pulls it back to the road, and I continue driving in 30cm snow at 110km/h. And about a minute later when I finished with my cheese patty, I bursted out in laughter, like shit I almost fucking died, that was fucking legendary and for fuck sake, now I can't brag about it cause noone saw it.
Lmao I have a few driving things that are in a similar vein 😂 But even just in regular life doing weird simple shjt like dropping something then catching it midsirnbefore I even realized what happens 😂 I’m like fuck did anybody see that that was so cool 😂. Really pissed my parents didn’t notice this shit and through me in secret agent school or something 😂😂😂
YES with the pilot analogy!! this is an ONGOING analogy I use w myself, but diff visuals. I surf, and it happens a lot when I randomly don't believe I can make the wave successfully,,, I am fully balanced and straight clear shot down the wave,, but I burrow my head into the water, making myself wipe out. there are times in my life where i am perfectly set up, perfectly balanced,, ,and that urge to just "bury my head in the wave" and make myself wipe out is so there. it's like--- "no man!! you got a clear!! you're fucking good!! go!!" I literally tell myself don't "bury ur head in the wave" in everyday things when it does come up.
You guys typed me ENFP and I am definitely not this (ISTP) type. One thing I have learned when having huge ST thing struggle, usually involving being lost somewhere, is to pull off the road and just spend time thinking about where I am and how to get to where I need to go. Breaking the problem into smaller parts, which is difficult to do with a lot of distraction. I have to literally pull off the road and just think in silence. Also, I don't have a GPS because I don't have a smartphone and the old Garmin one is lost somewhere and I can't find it, lol. --- So NF advice for fellow NFs. Slow down, calm the emotions, then access the demon ST side of yourself and figure it out by breaking the problem down into manageable parts.
He probably observed the pilot on past fights like that even if it was only a little, I think he'd be compelled to do so. ISTPs hate being incompetent at anything. Btw did real pilot live? If I were flying with 1 pilot and I did it often like this guy, that thought of "what if?" would cross my mind a lot for sure.
I find myself picking up on things just by watching someone else do it. I learned the basics of carpentry from watching my dad for years but no one ever actually taught me how to do it.
@Thedustypolebarn thats cool. My ISTP bf is like that, layed all our hardwood flooring by himself with only afew fixable mistakes, but thats just bc he was over working himself I think. I have to pull him away sometimes and force him to eat and sleep lol. He likes cars and electronics more though. Since u learn fast, do you like to teach stuff? I think my bf likes the idea of teaching but can get impatient and not know how to use words. Then again, I'm an ENTP, so I'm all about words lol.
Not for the first time I wonder how things like ADHD play into type. I’m excellent at crises, getting what needs to be done done in life-or-death situations (and without going too much into it in a CZcams comment, they were were times where someone’s life or my own was in immediate danger) and putting emotion aside until later. It’s only later that I deal with the feelings (or not at all) and they blow up or manifest in weird ways like physical chronic health issues. I’ve been interested in type theory for a long time (15+ years) and have fairly confidently typed myself as an INTJ, but watching these two I find myself unsure. While I’m very Ni-heavy, I seem to have a very peculiar relationship with Se, that’s for sure.
When he said I can't die today, something of similar nature happened to me as a kid, maybe 3rd day of highschool, and in early morning as I was going to school an aggressive neighborhood dog started running towards me to attack me, I heard it and saw it started sprinting, and my thought was, I can't get my jeans dirty, feeling I'm going to a new school, and I was like I guess I just gotta deal with it now. Long story short I started yelling at it and kicked it in the mouth and nose as it was trying to bite me, later neighbor and my dad got out and the dog ran away. But that thought, just dealing with it in the moment, like I'm not letting this happen.
He does the plane stuff after a ton of rehearsal and makes a cringey big deal over all of it in his movie promotion. The final product is designed to look in the moment and ISTP like.
I’m INFJ and was a pilot/navigator in the Air Force 12 years. Had no idea why I had to work so much harder at it while being surrounded by amazing naturally talented people like this guy. It’s as if they are one with the aircraft and fly it like an avatar character, willing it to do whatever they need. I worshiped this type for a long time before I learned they were ISTP. Needless to say I am a therapist now. Much better fit for me.
Always good to hear about an INFJ being a therapist. I think I might be an INTP and kind of wish that every therapist was INFJ.
Bwahaha that’s so awesome kudos to you for pushing through a career that isn’t a glove fit for you. I know, I’m an ISFJ working with a bunch of glorified mechanics in an automotive testing and development laboratory. I LOVE what I do just find it very difficult/uncomfortable to relate to most of my peers.
Double deciders should really consider being in fields with heavy personal interaction. The problem is we all want to strive to do the observer thing, depending on our particular whacked out observers. Letting go of the fact that we might never be the best observer to ever observe opens the door to do the boring people things that we are more balanced at.
Haha, very cool, are you an infj standard or jumper?
@@IndieAuthorX Really well said and I had not thought of it this way. People work tends go so much better for me and has been more fulfilling in the long run.
As an ISTP, I don’t feel that I am better than any other type. Instead, I get confused as to why they aren’t as confident about themselves as I am about myself. I wish everyone the peace of mind that comes with self assuredness.
Wow, such a humble Di
Well I think it comes with the Se ability to oversee everything that is happening and being able to react in the moment, plus Ti logic always at your fingertips.
If you feel dizzy blurry and mopy, you have foggy vision and no clarity of mind, then you better not be too confident about "just acting" just like that.
I don't feel better than any other type holistically. Like, some people can do jobs day after day that would lead me to putting a bullet in my brain.
Within a narrow band of situations, though, I can assess where other people are at, and if they're losing it and about to take us all down, I'm like, "okay, get out of the way, I've got it. MOVE. NOW! And STFU."
@@barrydworak 100% I come across people who have so much experience and knowledge in their field and yet they are constantly doubting their competence
hmmmm
Now put us ISTPs in an NF crisis and see if we're still so cool.
Nope. We will most definitely not be cool.
Totally. I mean, yeah it's a good personality to have in crisis and physical challenges. I have used it many times. But then try to talk to someone crying, manage a group conflict, or process negative feelings. In those situations it can feel like you have a personality disorder
@@rickrocks606 it refers to a situation where emotions are at play more than what caused them. Being upset by people and not a situation or thing.
Um yeh not so good in an NF crisis at all, and as females we are expected to be naturally sensitive and nurturing, something as an ISTP I struggle with.
@@rickrocks606 Firstly I wouldn't call an NF crisis a crisis exactly, and I guess I'm generalising because my answer relates to NF and SF crises. In my experience F crises tends to be caused by emotions, feelings and how others will perceive them during and after the crisis. I am obviously less emphatic and more likely to give advice which mostly makes me perceived as being insensitve and harsh 🤷♀️ And I'm actually suss you are a shill 😅
“What do we say to the god of death?”
“Not today.”
Arya is one of the rare female ISTP characters. We see ISTPs a lot in fiction, but they are usually men.
I'm an ISTP and once got kicked out of flight school because I did a low fly by over my parents house. It was extremely stressful and depressing, because I felt I had lost my identity. Took some time to get back up, but managed to change schools and became a pilot anyway :-)
Beautiful recovery.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH U WERE BETTER ANYWAY
@@yeniyeni7325 Haha yeah, I like to say to myself that I was too good for my previous school, they couldn’t handle me 😄
"There's no thing problem you fcking nut"
This reminds me of your feelings come later video that dropped around 2018ish! I quote it a lot!
"As the plane was going down, what did you feel?"
"I felt like I should land the plane."
Glad you two go beyond the stereotypes in MBTI! It's so good to see more than just people using them as a bunch of fancy Hogwarts houses!
Yeah i think i can say that we put logic first than feeling. Even more in this situation.
INTPs in this situation: "Whoa, it's just like Flight Simulator!"
As an INTP, I always look to the ISTPs as what I might just be like if I didn't have to go SHIT, GIMME A MINUTE every time something hectic comes up and I have to figure out a bunch of options first. Your point about the Karens is spot-on, though, and explains why I find them so mind-wrecking...I swear the crux of lead Ti is the mantra "screaming doesn't fix the problem" even though, for them, kicking the can down the road and into someone else's yard is the whole game and DOES fix it for them.
Your observations are very pointed, I like it.😂
As an INTP I feel the same, in stressful situations like that I don’t panic and freeze (or go batshit crazy) that way but I do keep second guessing my decisions which paralyzes me.
That is exactly it. My mother is an ISTP & I am an INTP. When we solve problems together she jumps into it immediately & rattles my brain because I can't answer the problem that fast. I need to find the right answer. She just needs to find any answer.
I’m exact type of Dave and I’ve also always had this natural respect and admiration for ISTPs. No matter their modalities or animal orders, they’ve always been very mature, very balanced and very unbiased. We can learn so much from them
Oh can you guys do a type twin interview together? :)
As an ENTP, I would disagree that ISTP is unbiased. They judge you behind your back for sure. I live with one lol.
@@srose1088 Truth. I live with one too and it is not necessarily a bad thing, it is just a comment agreeing that they are not unbiased. As an ESTJ, I have my thoughts too, so I understand. :)
Ya one of my best friends is an ISTP.. I'm an INTJ and he has this acuteness and awareness and ability to spot pertinent details that so far exceeds my own. I respect it a lot. I love his TiSe advice, and he comes to me for NiTe advice, it's a great friendship. They have Ni in their third slot also which I think helps them to understand and spot patterns on the fly. Great type.
This man did something heroic, and this type of stress an ISTP would endure better than many types over a sustained period, but when the fire starts you don’t have your personality type to use as a crutch. I am not a “heroic personality type, but have lived through some very real situations where someone had to stand up and take control. Again not my personality type at all, but to box people in to “this type can do this” is creating excuses for if a person has the character to stand up. Personality type from my experience is more how one deals with it after, and how long the pressure can be sustained.
Well, I never had to land a plane, but about I year ago I've realised I'm a fucking god behind the steering wheel.
Cold winter morning, I'm driving in about a foot of fresh snow, with only a few tyre marks left by 40 tonn trucks.
One of the ridges created by a truck threw my car sideways into the tree line.
Me, steering with my left hand and holding a cheese patty with my right, not even thinking a second, and still chewing on my breakfast.
Off the gas, get traction, counter steer, pedal to the metal, front wheel drive pulls it back to the road, and I continue driving in 30cm snow at 110km/h.
And about a minute later when I finished with my cheese patty, I bursted out in laughter, like shit I almost fucking died, that was fucking legendary and for fuck sake, now I can't brag about it cause noone saw it.
Lmao I have a few driving things that are in a similar vein 😂
But even just in regular life doing weird simple shjt like dropping something then catching it midsirnbefore I even realized what happens 😂
I’m like fuck did anybody see that that was so cool 😂. Really pissed my parents didn’t notice this shit and through me in secret agent school or something 😂😂😂
ISTP gets the praise again...
With a slightly less awesome hair cut...
-ISTP
decisive vs. undecisive; Architect vs. leaf blown by the wind...
Just another day at the office. 😐
omg i wanna cry 😭 thank God he pulled this out, and i hope he can manage the later on emotional wave
True to istp can't die today got too much stuff I put off doing 😂
Istp: I love your videos we beat on ourselves all the time it's nice just to hear something good. Ty
this is so the best! makes me laugh out loud every time I watch. thanks.
Nice bi lighting!! Small touch, but it looks really sharp ♥️💙
Looking extra cool today Shan
ISTP is the best type, no kidding. I have been preaching this since day one but no one listened.
~ a faithful INFJ worshipper
As an ISTP, I land planes and walk away all the time. Of course, I am a commercial pilot.
YES with the pilot analogy!! this is an ONGOING analogy I use w myself, but diff visuals.
I surf, and it happens a lot when I randomly don't believe I can make the wave successfully,,, I am fully balanced and straight clear shot down the wave,, but I burrow my head into the water, making myself wipe out.
there are times in my life where i am perfectly set up, perfectly balanced,, ,and that urge to just "bury my head in the wave" and make myself wipe out is so there. it's like--- "no man!! you got a clear!! you're fucking good!! go!!"
I literally tell myself don't "bury ur head in the wave" in everyday things when it does come up.
You guys typed me ENFP and I am definitely not this (ISTP) type. One thing I have learned when having huge ST thing struggle, usually involving being lost somewhere, is to pull off the road and just spend time thinking about where I am and how to get to where I need to go. Breaking the problem into smaller parts, which is difficult to do with a lot of distraction. I have to literally pull off the road and just think in silence.
Also, I don't have a GPS because I don't have a smartphone and the old Garmin one is lost somewhere and I can't find it, lol.
---
So NF advice for fellow NFs. Slow down, calm the emotions, then access the demon ST side of yourself and figure it out by breaking the problem down into manageable parts.
Oh boy I’m an FN and I hate getting lost. Thanks for your advice.
I watched part of Speed. The main character in that movie was so cool! Dude knew first aid and how to Fe in an emergency.
He probably observed the pilot on past fights like that even if it was only a little, I think he'd be compelled to do so. ISTPs hate being incompetent at anything. Btw did real pilot live?
If I were flying with 1 pilot and I did it often like this guy, that thought of "what if?" would cross my mind a lot for sure.
I find myself picking up on things just by watching someone else do it. I learned the basics of carpentry from watching my dad for years but no one ever actually taught me how to do it.
@Thedustypolebarn thats cool. My ISTP bf is like that, layed all our hardwood flooring by himself with only afew fixable mistakes, but thats just bc he was over working himself I think. I have to pull him away sometimes and force him to eat and sleep lol. He likes cars and electronics more though.
Since u learn fast, do you like to teach stuff? I think my bf likes the idea of teaching but can get impatient and not know how to use words. Then again, I'm an ENTP, so I'm all about words lol.
I wonder how many jabs the Pilot had 🤔 And yes I'm an ISTP also.
Hahaha 🤣 this what I started to think 😂istp as well
We are onto it as always 🤣
Not for the first time I wonder how things like ADHD play into type. I’m excellent at crises, getting what needs to be done done in life-or-death situations (and without going too much into it in a CZcams comment, they were were times where someone’s life or my own was in immediate danger) and putting emotion aside until later. It’s only later that I deal with the feelings (or not at all) and they blow up or manifest in weird ways like physical chronic health issues. I’ve been interested in type theory for a long time (15+ years) and have fairly confidently typed myself as an INTJ, but watching these two I find myself unsure. While I’m very Ni-heavy, I seem to have a very peculiar relationship with Se, that’s for sure.
The title is also a giant double decider troll on ISTPs. Gotta check that Di ;)
Maverick from top gun maverick is ISTP
When he said I can't die today, something of similar nature happened to me as a kid, maybe 3rd day of highschool, and in early morning as I was going to school an aggressive neighborhood dog started running towards me to attack me, I heard it and saw it started sprinting, and my thought was, I can't get my jeans dirty, feeling I'm going to a new school, and I was like I guess I just gotta deal with it now. Long story short I started yelling at it and kicked it in the mouth and nose as it was trying to bite me, later neighbor and my dad got out and the dog ran away. But that thought, just dealing with it in the moment, like I'm not letting this happen.
Fucking love this
In an emergency I go T (dont know ST or NT). Level head, focused, on task
gave it a quick wash before he went home, 🙃
Man I want to be an ISTP Gigachad too🥺
Speaking as an ISTP, it comes at a cost. Whether or not you are aware of it is a whole other story. But there is a cost.
@@PhotoRubio I'm fine with the cost. Being me has no advantages, so nothing to lose..
@@anonymouslearner2454 😆 so who are you?...
@@Limette454 Don't know my type. Feels like 'demon everything' 😂
My ego is going brr
ISTP is the best type?... maybe I'm an ISTP...
i wouldn't be on that plane LOL
You guys need to do Ed Sorenson
What a Chad
Wow, that's crazy. Without prior training, landed an aircraft, bruh...
First! ENTP here🤩
Wasn’t Michael Jordan textbook ISTP? Also big cry baby at weirdest times.
Is that kim from better call saul
5:58 LMAOOO
Is it me or the subtitle of theirs vid of the man is not sync well?
Wait what about the pilot in the back? Did he survive?
Lol, i'm isfp, and i'd be exactly the same as this dude.
ok but when are you gonna upload in 1080.
i realize youtube takes time to process videos so idek if you did or not
When in doubt, check the Se. They upload in 720 for all vids.
@@Hyperdriveuk damn
How Tom Cruise is not an ISTP!!! wtf
He does the plane stuff after a ton of rehearsal and makes a cringey big deal over all of it in his movie promotion. The final product is designed to look in the moment and ISTP like.
zis is crezeh
I didn't say this
Et ezzz
@@mohammedal-shaebi6578 shhhh you crazy betsh
@@jibranjawaid :3
How exactly are you using the scientific method exactly? How is this objective?
You have to understand the methodology. Watching 1 video out of context is going to be fairly useless....
@@Hyperdriveuk I understand the scientific method. I do not see it here. Will my questions be answered or just dodged?
So how does Theo Von fit this description of ISTP exactly?
This guy is blast last, flooring sales guy on the news after a near death experience. Theo von is a comedian, not blast last. Difference enough?
@@marinecobra No actually. They are extremely different types of personality.
@@rickrocks606since you asked me - I heard MF Ti/Se blast last. So either CSPB or CPBS
Not sure for Theo they've talked about him separately