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Literally the BEST Audiophile Tube Amplifier (I've EVER owned), For REAL!
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
- NAT transmitter monoblocks are one of the most POWERFUL Class A SET power amplifiers that High-End Audio has to offer. It is the BEST tube amplifier I've owned. Here is my 2 year report.
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0:00 BIG FAT TUBES! POWER!
3:45 AD
5:00 NAT Transmitter Review
10:05 BEST Pre-amp For the NAT tube amp
15:21 BEST Speakers For the NAT tube amp
19:32 WHY I am selling it
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0:00 BIG FAT TUBES! POWER!
3:45 AD
5:00 NAT Transmitter Review
10:05 BEST Pre-amp For the NAT tube amp
15:21 BEST Speakers For the NAT tube amp
19:32 WHY I am selling it
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Tube fascination ended w cost
and lack of current for maggies 😮
Hey Jay, no hate intended but if you used Black ice audio V2 or Galion 120 ts as examples for extremely less money. Tell me this is worth 10* or more vs room EQ digital or manual 😉
@@wegardfjeld3789 for me it was and thats why I bought it. There is no amount of eq or dsp I can run to get the deep and atmospheric soundstage I get with the NATs.
That's what it's all about. That magic sprinkle
Hi Jay, whats the asking price? If you havent sold them already.
In the 70th, I was in the Russian military, serving in the radio transmitter center. The radio transmission equipment used similar tubes in the output stage. When it was ON, we where not allowed to stand closer than 2 meters from the equipment due to the immense amount of elector-magnetic radiation. We had to wait for 45 min. of OFF time before changing the tubes. It was the part of the regulations in the Russian army that really did not give a s...t about its soldiers. Hope these are not the same!
BS
@@Gullsz He is talking about radio transmission output tubes, not regular tubes used in most audio gear. This is the only home amplifier I have seen that uses these kind of transmission tubes in the output stage, although others may exist that I don't know about.
There is no concern for any sort of emission with these. Wrong type of radiation..
@@OCDHIFiGuy Have you measured the emissions Mike? Would make a good CZcams short video if you did. Thanks
The Russians had done a lot of leading research on various frequencies of electromagnetic radiation in terms of safety and weaponization. They would know. I would love to hear these amps, but I would also want to see some independent safety data.
At 42 thousand I hope it is great. Buying another lottery ticket and dreaming.
Even with a lottery win this ain't it. You get 95% + for way less. Use time on speaker and dac matching + room correction both manual and digital
Sad to say this stuff isn't ever ever worth a 10'th of the price. Thx Galion and Black ice audio as examples for you to test
There is absolutely ZERO comparison with CHINESE audio Amps.. sorry my friend, these are exotic amps for a certain type of amp enthusiast.
@@OCDHIFiGuy look at Mikey checking in...he knows his sh**...
Way too much talking to get to where they are from and price, but if Chinese @ $42k that is money flushed down the toilet. I don’t care how good it sounds. 🤓
So beautiful. 🎉❤😊 Great review Jay. PS- I see those baffles back there you sneaky guy 🤣🤣. My mains for the last year have been a pair of DIY baffles running 18” bass driver, 15” coax mid, and compression horn tweeter for a total sensitivity of 97db. Running at listening levels off a 4 watt single ended pentode amp. ❤❤ Can’t wait to see you dive deeper into open baffles and tubes…. Life changing. 😊. Cheers and have a great weekend. 👌👌
I noted those too and am waiting to see what's up with them too. Lii Song/Audio W15 or 18 and maybe their Crystal 10 and a planar or ribbon tweeter...could be amazing stuff there.
Great review, Jay! You’re going to miss those amps!
Their preamps are very good too. I have the Magnetic and use the XLR for my AVA DVA 225's. Big sound and dynamics, with sweet highs and great bass.
I’ve owned NAT, amazing amp
An added bonus is that you no longer need heating in the winter! Beautiful bit of gear, I've never seen transmitter tubes used in a home amplifier before.
Don't know what 805As are then.... Transmitter tubes... Can push out nearly 40 watts in single ended power.... I have a pair of mono blocks...
@@Michael-zg8qw My tube amps take KT-88s or 6550s, EL-84s and EL-34s and I've seen many that use 300Bs. I've not seen any amps using 805As until today.
Dear Jay,
I feel ya. .We hooked up NAT Integrated (not monoblocks) to the Magico’s A5 and it literally blew away McIntosh MA12000, Accuphase E800 and D’Agostino Progression for more than a half of the asking price of these starlets. Continue to dream,maybe one day…
@vule7168 it's the difference between a custom build with exclusive parts nobody else can get and a build using components from the DigiKey parts bins.. ;-)
They look amazing, especially with a cage. Wow
Finally, for so long we waited for this review.
as mentioned in the video, I bought these 2nd hand
@@Jayiyagiyep, mentioned at 19mins and I asked too early beforehand 🤦🏻
Adding these to my "When I hit the Lotto" wishlist.
Great review - real eye opener re the low impedance input!
Jay ! Thanks for the Props in your vid ! For both NAT Audio and myself.
Regarding the NAT preamps, what ai was not clear on is that they are undergoing a model update across the board. The Symmetric is complete, but the one you asked about is being updated, hence the delay. My apology. ;-) guess what I have that may need a new home ? 😊...
Couple of months ago the AGD audion was the best Amplifier.... I am getting confused here now.
If you watch the review of the AGD he says the AGD and NAT are his 2 favs and he cant choose which.
Nothing to be confused about. Those two are my fav amps for different reasons
@@Jayiyagi Thanks Jay, I guess I forgot the mention of this Amp in the other video. My Memory seems to be going bad.....
I would remove the preamp completely and put a Lampizator in its place. The amps will sound their best. Unless you want to put a Boulder in the chain with the Lampi.
That’s 42k? Man, above what I wanna spend for an amp. I am glad the Line Magnetic 805ia gives me the SET sound at a level Im willing to afford.
😂Jay, I loved the video. I am a good friend with Dejan the owner of NAT. And I also use his equipment. And I simply love them. Apart from his amazing amps you should try his AC cord/conditioners and cables. They made my system sing like never before. What do you use under the amps, which feet? I don’t think those are stock feet.
Best.
I was using isoacoustic feet with good results. Your friends with owner of NAT? You wanna put in a good word for me? Haha
I will of course. I sent him the link of the video. 😊
What are the open baffle speakers with Liisong drivers next to you?
Wow looks like a game changer 😮
Can confirm - These amps are Hawt ... Sounding and Feeling. 100% Canadian Winter approved.
Make sure your AC is not broken during the hottest days tho =)
I just upgraded my rectifier tube to the Sophia Aqua II. Detailed and thick sound is what I’m feeling compared to my original Aqua and PSVane Cossor blacks tubes.
Funny Jay, since in 2019 you said you preferred transistors amps over tube amp because tubes didn't work well with rock music or had much bass...
In between, would like Jay to try the Mastersound 845 Integrated amp as his reference tube power amp. Paired 845 tubes per channel. Now in production over 20 years. Still remember them at
CES in LasVegas more than 15 years ago.
If you really want the “best” try the Townshend Allegri Reference passive auto transformer preamp with your amps. I am using one with the AGD Tempo and it sounds absolutely glorious. The perfect component does…. Nothing!
Jay, Was the Audio Note integrated (Tonemeister) you reviewed previously anywhere close?
Yes both are incredibly musical sounding to me but the NAT has a little more to offer in terms of depth and clarity while the audio note tonmeister was just more 3D imagery. If NAT sounded 3D, the tonmeister sounded like IMAX
@@Jayiyagi Thanks for clarifying! Would you say the NAT has a distinct advantage in the department of being able to drive a wider range of speakers given its output specs vs. the Tonemeister?
@@a.s.2426 yes!
@@Jayiyagi Thanks! Love the channel, BTW! Thanks for all the insights.
At 42K all I have to say is thank you Galion TS120 for being 1/10th of the price and so good!
I find your interior …AWESOME…
120 watt for a S.E. tube amplifier?? That's insane! Wow.
these are ideal for the maggies!!
Love this view. I've been wanting to buy the NAT Magma M's and NAT Magmetic Pre amp from OCD. .
I love this Tube Amp! 🔥🔥🔥
Looking at the NAT website, it says the max output is 80 watts. Also the input impedance is stated as 100Kohm, so it should work with moderate output impedance pre-amps. However this data is for versions from November 2019, maybe yours is older....
Mine is older
New version coming out in 30 days..
@@OCDHIFiGuy 😱🤩
@@OCDHIFiGuy how much? Is it better than gaN?
Hi Jay, What are the open baffle speakers with Liisong drivers next to you?
Hi Jay with these big tubes do you feel you lose the sweetness/softness/musicality and nuance of smaller tubes like 300b or 211? Especially of vocals and female vocals? I own the cary 805 anniversary edition (which i believe you previously did), how do they compare especially with regards to nuance/sweetness/delicate-ness of the voice?) Thanks!
NOPE. Still very sweet. I owned the 805, not the anniversary version though. I don't think they compare. Like I said, the NAT sounds better than any tube amp Ive heard to date.
@@Jayiyagi Thanks so much for your reply! :) hehe considering a 212 tube amplifier by line magnetic or a NAT audio. Sounds reassuring! :) All the best with furthering your audio journey! :)
What does 'single-ended' mean?
Don´t sell it untill you have a chance to really buy the flagship NAT. Thx for the video..
Try MastersounD preamp for an even better step up with these monobolcks.
MastersounD are simply the best out there.
Regards
You should try Wavac tube amps from Japan,also with broadcast tubes,but there are other models too with normal kind of tubes,but sure the NAT is a killer!
Wavac is like 5 to 10 times the cost of N.A.T !
@@OCDHIFiGuy Yeah i know,but there is a 300B that goes for 30K,would be cool to test it.
Hello, if that SE amplifier is so good, the cheapest speakers would sound good, it's not worth $10K dollars, wow
It's worth every cent of $10K used..
May i ask what’s the best preamp you ever used with them ?
And ,..why not also a NAT , ? I mean ,…it’s from the same manufacturer !
Mentioned in the video
I use my 8 wpm Class A all tube SET AMP as a space heater too...
MORE POWER BABYYY
All you need is ATC active studio monitors and a good preamplifier. Save your money and stop looking for a unicorn! ATC is a Class AB tri-amp speaker that actually delivers.
Strange result in that tube preamps didn't work. The specs suggest otherwise, 100K input impedance and 1.5V sensitivity. That pretty much says about anything running them should sound good. Wonder what is up with that.
How much are you asking for the pair? 😊
All my speakers need power to sing so tubes never were on the menu for me. Would these be able to drive Maggies or Thiels?
yes they should be able to. I've tested with LRS, 0.7i and 1.7i but nothing above that
There is the MAGMA Evo which is double the power of this one.
I have an AudioNet Stern preamplifier. Would it be a good preamp for this amp?
how much are they ?
thanks
and please share price
Noctua fans are not just "any computer fans" - they are the most silent, powerful and reliable fans in the world by far. Simply the best.
Do you still have the ranking spreadsheet updated on you patreon or did you remove that?
hello,
According to NAT website the power output is 80W not 120 as you mentioned
This is the none HPS model. Older model which did output 120 watts.
So they released a newer version that is inferior then previous version??😢 what is the logic here??
This was a fun video and I enjoyed the descriptions. Though I'm not sure it's so much a "review" as it functions as a sales pitch drumming interest for someone selling a second hand esoteric amp ;-)
Well the amp has been already sold so I am not drumming up interest for my sake
@@Jayiyagi Cool! I luv me some tube amps, and have experienced some of the qualities you described with some tube amps, so it was a fun video. Thanks.
Are they connected to the pre amp by xlr? What pre do you use?
Great review , what is your reference streamer and Dac that you use?
video coming on that soon!
Great review but why are you selling it?
puro movimiento!
Why not the magnetic or the magnetostat se preamps from NAT ?
Sorry ……had not yet seen the video till the end !!!! :)
Popular in Alaska! 😅
How much better than your decware tori(?) jay?
What speakers are in this video?
Totem bison
the best until next week where there's suddenly a $1000 hybrid tube amp that's a NAT giant killer
I wish!
Are those GR Research tweeters in the DIY Open Baffle speakers?
I think they are leesong
@@newdevilman1167 the tweeter on the top?
Love this video.
The fact that you went thru and tried ~60 pairs of speakers... are you sure OCD Mikey is the only one w OCD? 😀
(Just kidding.)
Have to ask... outside of the Canadian Winters... how long could you listen to them before your room got too hot?
Well I do have AC…
These don't heat the room like the big one does..
@@OCDHIFiGuy shiet…
@Jayiyagi Do yours run hot enough to heat the room where you need extra AC ? The latest designs run cooler and the only one I've really felt it with was MAGMA New... my room is roughly 20x22
@@Jayiyagi 😄
Big Jay (the other Jay) has amps a bit like this! 😅
I see you have a choco emei on the shelf...review at some point? also...is it GREEN or grey? some pics it looks grey, some it looks green.
its like a military green
@@Jayiyagi brother THANK YOU for answering my question, ive been asking around for SOOOOO long. huge help ON top of reviews with heart. ty bro.
Maybe i could make a replica look case and put a normal amp inside to have it as an art piece lol
Guys stop playing lottery. Jay sells the gear on canuck The nat and agd are already gone..but keep an eye for great deals!
It has a great power. But a low watt 300B tube amp will have more romantic vocal.
I had no idea amps make a sound.
Lots of listeners and designers are in the open baffle mode right now. It should sound better, there’s no box speaker involved.
well Open Baffles have their own compromises but it certainly is an easier design choice for DIY
Marshall tube amps peak out at 100 watts. They were designed to fill stadiums. In the music business there's a term, "PA watts". When you get one of these 1500 Watt solid state guitar amps even the manufacturers will qualify it as not like a tube amp.
You need to realize though that anything you can use to "describe the sound" of the amp is coloration?
With those flagship monoblocks you won’t need any heating in the winter and you can’t use them in the summer. 😂
well in the summer u gotta blast AC and cry as your bills go up
These don't heat the room. The amps 2 sizes up do.
OCD Mikey got to him.
Road to heaven or heel. For 42grand,happiness,mmm
Hmm🧐ok
lol that's the NAT OCD mickie sells...
Same brand but these are 10 year old amps.
@@OCDHIFiGuy so is it better than gallium nitride?
No way I'm spending 42k on any audio gear let alone amps. Even if i have a million bucks just sittin. Far too imp things to spend your money on.
Absolutely. Everyone has different priorities
So, matching or pairing these are difficult, it runs ridiculously hot, and it’s incredibly expensive? Ummm, no thanks!
C'mon. The improvement will be 10% or less! That's a fraction. Why not be happy and demo them? I know this is a review channel, but 10% or less is not drama. Fly to OCD Hifi Guy's house when he gets them in and test it that way to see if it is worth it.
I plan to demo first
LOL. It has been for sale for almost a year.
20:29
Making thunder.
Made in Serbia 🥰
Fer real Fer real?
Where's OCD Mike in here
In the house
They paid you
who? Rove concepts? yes they did
No money for them ……buaaaaaaaaaaaááá !! 😢😢😢😂😂😂😂😂
But you said....
Yeah no.... not happening when you start costing more than some of the BAT, VAC amps etc. Give me a Rogue Tube amp anytime... Or maybe even one of those Tawainese Mcintosh MC275 Knockoffs... Just my 2 cents which even I know is worth less than that!
Like your user name, who cares what you do with your money. Why care what others do with their money? 😂
The website loading is too naive to miss out.
I have no doubt they sound great, but between the price and weight (89lbs each), my wallet and back say no. lol
I feel you
You seem to have won the lottery...are you dedicated to just listen to high-end appliances,don't you listen to Music itself ?...
He is a reviewer, he reviews shit
No lottery. Just hard work. I use high end appliances to listen to music
What are you saying? If someone listens to music with high end gear, they don’t listen to music?? 😅
FYI, according to the NAT website, the Transmitter HPS amp that is being reviewed in this video outputs 80W in high power mode and 40W in low power mode.
It's the next more powerful NAT amp, the Magma M HPS, that outputs 130W.
This is the older none hps version
Yes, MAGMA M is next higher up.
When it comes to amps.. the bigger the hotter the less energy efficient the more class A the better. Get that AB and D efficient nonsense out of here. I don’t want a poser Tesla amp I want a nuclear reactor while rolling coal out of my pickup truck.
Hell yeah Borther!!
Fking love it
for Rich people. 94,000 USD.
94K is 2 amp models up..
WHEN EVERYONE SIMPLY NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT EVERY ONE OF THESE REVIEWERS ON CZcams INCLUDING THIS ONE IS GUILTY OF ONE THING..
Claiming consistently all the time on a weekly basis that this is the best in the world these are my reference pieces of equipment, how many reference piece of equipment can you own and play at the same time, in a small room.. this guy a week ago said oh these are my reference speakers this is my reference amplifier this is my reference AVR does all reference of course it's a reference.. at least in the minds of those who create these advertisements.. you can't listen to everything all the time everywhere.. so if you have so-called quote unquote reference equipment.. how does that change about every 8 to 10 days..????
Everybody needs to answer themselves that question..
I prefer my Audio Power Labs 833 TNT. Oilcooled Class A tube Amps from Columbus,Ohio These NAT s are made in eastern Europe and are known to be very unstable! DR Solheim Marbella and Norway!
well my experience is with this one unit so I can't speak for how unstable or unreliable other units are but mine is just as it was when I bought it. And its an older model too
The amps are not unstable at all. These will last a lifetime.. I've sold about 10 pair..