Dublin Goth New Wave Movement, 1989 (Uncensored)

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  • čas přidán 10. 11. 2018
  • Described as “a poser’s paradise”, Grafton Street in Dublin - a look at the youth culture, fashion and trends in Goths, Cure-Heads, Psychobillies and teenagers who prefer not to be labelled about their clothes and music.
    #Dublin #Ireland #GothMusic #Fashion #AlternativeMusic
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  • @KerKeraunos
    @KerKeraunos Před 3 lety +3397

    - Are you a Goth?
    - No
    - What are you?
    - Nothing
    That's Goth AF, lol

    • @Aaron-zh4kj
      @Aaron-zh4kj Před 3 lety +119

      Goth specifically is so ironic and romantic, because the people who birthed it by and large denied associating with it (Siouxsie Sioux, Robert Smith), so it's hard to really nail down outside just experiencing the music and the art and existing in it. To concur with your comment, I think that's by and large the soul of the goth subculture: Fleeting, romantic, and beautiful, while unpretentious. But that's just my two cents.

    • @1madmaxx80
      @1madmaxx80 Před 3 lety +13

      Don't forget the Damned

    • @michelleobrien9791
      @michelleobrien9791 Před 3 lety +37

      @@Aaron-zh4kj aaaw you make it sound so lovely. I remember the 80s when I thought I was normal but the normal night clubs would not allow my best friend and I to enter.. so we entered the only clubs that would have us.. which was where all the Goths went... so I guess it was Goths and other random misfits.

    • @positivesecret
      @positivesecret Před 2 lety +1

      Goth is what others call them ,,,,they just use that word to describe themselves to the masses.

    • @ManannanmacLir69
      @ManannanmacLir69 Před rokem +5

      It's also ZEN AF

  • @HS-jo7mr
    @HS-jo7mr Před 3 lety +1922

    Looks: Dark, somber, gloomy
    Personality: *intense giggling"

  • @melware1372
    @melware1372 Před 3 lety +3402

    These kids are all so nice and polite and yet the interviewer sounds so annoyed and condescending

    • @X2LR8
      @X2LR8 Před 3 lety +261

      She was quite bothered by the way they were using the rosary beads it seems.

    • @daracorr1484
      @daracorr1484 Před 3 lety +125

      The interviewer wasn't condescending in my opinion, she was genuinely interested in their style choice and asking about it from an unbiased standpoint

    • @una877
      @una877 Před 2 lety +4

      @@X2LR8 because Ireland was extremely Catholic then and it would have been seen as fairly disrespectful and sacrilegious to use them like that.

    • @MrDemonWorm
      @MrDemonWorm Před 2 lety +3

      @blue star ...just ask Colin Kapaernick...

    • @lordlucanslovechild1595
      @lordlucanslovechild1595 Před 2 lety

      The interviewer will be following the media’s agenda

  • @DarkAngelEU
    @DarkAngelEU Před 3 lety +2241

    "Do you like annoying adults?"
    "Well yeah, they annoy us."
    This

    • @marcotd7923
      @marcotd7923 Před 3 lety +50

      And the girl is very beautiful

    • @marcotd7923
      @marcotd7923 Před 3 lety +23

      Now is a 50 years old woman with an husband, two children, a cat and a semi detached house in Dublin suburbs

    • @leeccdoo
      @leeccdoo Před 3 lety +16

      @@marcotd7923 Wow that's interesting! How do you know this, if I may ask? Are you friends with her? I bet she had a lot of fun back in the day, I know I would if I lived back then but I wasn't born until '96.

    • @leeccdoo
      @leeccdoo Před 3 lety +22

      @d You sound like a complete moron.

    • @pasha6517
      @pasha6517 Před 3 lety +17

      @d who hurt you lol

  • @joewesterland5697
    @joewesterland5697 Před 3 lety +4354

    "We listen to The Cure"
    "only one group??"
    "oh no! The Cure and The Smiths"

    • @morphic666x
      @morphic666x Před 3 lety +315

      And the B52's!

    • @Mirokuofnite
      @Mirokuofnite Před 3 lety +337

      *silently* Depeche Mode

    • @gav240z
      @gav240z Před 3 lety +115

      It's like Blues Brothers we like both kinds of music. Country and Western!

    • @doomyman
      @doomyman Před 3 lety +8

      @@gav240z best citation ever

    • @davyroger3773
      @davyroger3773 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Mirokuofnite Probably not somber enough for them

  • @ubayyd
    @ubayyd Před 3 lety +2440

    Would love to hear their 40-50 year old selves reflecting back on these times

    • @desertrose1226
      @desertrose1226 Před 3 lety +150

      The beautiful girl who liked to annoy adults is now middle aged...

    • @jesst.354
      @jesst.354 Před 3 lety +128

      @@desertrose1226 Wow! Really!? I thought that she was still in her teens! 🤯🙄🙄 ( Mind Blowing.)

    • @aliadidondiaa8024
      @aliadidondiaa8024 Před 3 lety +37

      40 year olds would have been around 8

    • @scarlettrubyrose
      @scarlettrubyrose Před 3 lety +72

      more like 50s-60s

    • @lasofi5510
      @lasofi5510 Před 3 lety +1

      YES

  • @AleatoricSatan
    @AleatoricSatan Před 3 lety +1719

    These kids are golden. So well spoken and kind, trying to find their own identity in the world. I hope they only have fond memories from that era : )

    • @aliadidondiaa8024
      @aliadidondiaa8024 Před 3 lety +6

      not memory part of our cultures

    • @alanrmurphy
      @alanrmurphy Před 3 lety +18

      Those kids at the start are from South Dublin, which is a wealthier part of Dublin. Lovely kids though.

    • @BlazingOwnager
      @BlazingOwnager Před rokem +21

      I was just thinking how far humanity has fallen. Now you'd get blank looks and dumb wildly inaccurate things said they read on social media.

    • @dayaautum6983
      @dayaautum6983 Před rokem +23

      @@BlazingOwnager I've seen today's teenage Goths , they are pretty much the same and are sharp as a tack.
      There is new Goth music coming out still to this day and there are about as many Gen Z becoming Goth as there were Gen X or Millenials from what I can see anecdotally.
      Unfortunately you also have young Instagram and tiktok personalities and the populat crowd who are not so sharp pretending to be Goth but obviously are not. To them it's just the latest clothing fashion, much to the ire of actual Goths.

    • @Schleimkeim19
      @Schleimkeim19 Před rokem +1

      @@dayaautum6983 I don't want to offend you with my questions, but what does Goth actual mean? There doesn't seem to be a political/religious/philosophical base to it or am I wrong? I'm sure this topics are getting discussed within groups of goths, but there is no common goal they pursue, is there?
      A common intrest in death and transitoriness and the wish to express youself to the world in that way seems so little to base a whole subculture on it which leads to the final and most importan question:
      What is the difference between a Goth and one pretending to be a Goth?

  • @bingonamo7520
    @bingonamo7520 Před 2 lety +392

    They're all so friendly, attractive, charming and polite. And experts at their look. Yet at the time, kids like this were often hated for looking like that. I know I was.

    • @letitiabradin810
      @letitiabradin810 Před rokem +8

      even at 52 yrs old still a punk rocker people of black and indian decendences hate me, but their minds are in the toilet, mine is not, still a punker all these yrs, wow cool, me i;m happy when i see a punker/goth/metalhead/mod/new romantics/ska folks, or even 60s hippies, i have a lady girlfriend in her 70s whos an ex hippy, she loves me she loves the punk styles that i have on me, even thou i'm married i have her too, she's divorce, her husband cheated on her and she kicked him out,......marius(punk rules).

    • @bingonamo7520
      @bingonamo7520 Před rokem +9

      @Isolated Pixels People who are in this kind of subculture don't need a therapist any more than anyone else does. They just like that music, etc.

    • @sarcodonblue2876
      @sarcodonblue2876 Před rokem +2

      @@isolatedpixels9142 they are kids and that is the point. You are meant to have fun before you learn of the harsh cruel realities of the world.

  • @georgev9170
    @georgev9170 Před 3 lety +5491

    What's interesting is how virtually all of these random street kids somehow managed to look like high-end fashion models.

    • @GrimDollLotus
      @GrimDollLotus Před 3 lety +206

      Back then everyone thought we looked like street urchins.

    • @umrasangus
      @umrasangus Před 3 lety +24

      First worlders.

    • @DiamanteDea
      @DiamanteDea Před 3 lety +129

      People back then actually put effort into their looks unlike now

    • @lt7114
      @lt7114 Před 3 lety +15

      Haven't met many Irish gals eh?

    • @OneyButtwillies
      @OneyButtwillies Před 3 lety +108

      Well cause the high fashion people were just copying them.

  • @blipblip88
    @blipblip88 Před 3 lety +2815

    Kids having fun, pushing boundaries a little. innocent youth adventures...bless em.

    • @lil_weasel219
      @lil_weasel219 Před 3 lety +24

      now they are the almost elderly

    • @lotussight
      @lotussight Před 3 lety +13

      @@lil_weasel219 they're probably in their 50s to 60s lol

    • @sidneyarmstrong9850
      @sidneyarmstrong9850 Před 3 lety +39

      @@lotussight Closer to late 40's some early 50's ;)

    • @lil_weasel219
      @lil_weasel219 Před 3 lety +10

      @@lotussight anywhere from the mid40s- late 50s. But generally late40s-mid50s

    • @lil_weasel219
      @lil_weasel219 Před 3 lety +2

      @Feblique you might wanna reread my comment. This time pay attention

  • @zerodayfan
    @zerodayfan Před rokem +158

    God, they're all so iconic.

    • @Drowning_lessons_123
      @Drowning_lessons_123 Před rokem +8

      I know, right? The 70’s and 80’s had the best fashion styles

    • @themudpit621
      @themudpit621 Před 6 měsíci

      You think so? lol, pretty ordinary to me! All seems kinda silly now but at the time it seemed important.

  • @percyap4271
    @percyap4271 Před 3 lety +162

    They are so polite and giggly, unlike how most common movies portray punk/goth people like snobs or bullies. It sucks that unrealistic idea stuck in my country.

  • @codybishop7526
    @codybishop7526 Před 5 lety +2402

    Wish I could travel back in time and talk to these people.

    • @sashizakura9124
      @sashizakura9124 Před 5 lety +186

      If you could track them down, I'm sure you could talk to them NOW about what their experience was back then. This interview was done in the late 80s, not the 1800s.

    • @danilosescobar
      @danilosescobar Před 4 lety +44

      These people didn't die... I hope lol.

    • @Ligerpride
      @Ligerpride Před 3 lety +3

      @@sashizakura9124 😂😂😂

    • @speakertreatz
      @speakertreatz Před 3 lety +43

      You're not going to need a Tardis mate, it was only 1989 and they're only in their forties! 'These people' are all still around, I saw some of them on Facebook as far back in time as last year.

    • @speakertreatz
      @speakertreatz Před 3 lety +22

      @Dingus Finkelman You'd have to bring the drugs yourself, in the Tardis cos you won't find them back in Dublin in 1989 among these teens. Before 1991 there was virtually no Ecstasy, unless you were part of a tiny in-crowd that were also a bit older. There was acid, hash, some speed, and poppers but generally teenagers just got pissed. So bring a few 3-litres of Linden Village and you'll have more luck.

  • @plasticflowerz
    @plasticflowerz Před 3 lety +1317

    I love the DIY aspect of it, no Killstar or crappy brands like that.

    • @DidixGil
      @DidixGil Před 3 lety +22

      Why do you find brands such as Killstar crappy? Genuinely curious. I thought it was a pretty much respected brand?

    • @nettlethorn2014
      @nettlethorn2014 Před 3 lety +12

      @@DidixGil i wear Killstar and love it

    • @marsz9364
      @marsz9364 Před 3 lety +160

      i miss when fast fashion didn’t take over “scenes”. idk how people can be alternative and support capitalism like that haha

    • @nettlethorn2014
      @nettlethorn2014 Před 3 lety +41

      @@marsz9364 today living equals to supporting capitalism. Buying toilet paper or clothing is same

    • @plasticflowerz
      @plasticflowerz Před 3 lety +64

      @@marsz9364 Same. Thrifting/charity shops are more fun anyway. More inventive and quirky, don't need to have tonnes of money.

  • @disarm1823
    @disarm1823 Před 3 lety +55

    "Are you also a vampire?" "Nah, im nothing..." embodied the spirit

  • @knitware
    @knitware Před 3 lety +418

    I was a Psychobilly from 1987 to 1990 ish, skint, stank, drank, girls, danced and I don't remember too much else. The Goths, us, punks all got on, mostly the differences in music were enjoyed by each group, I even liked some of the chart stuff, Prefab Sprout, OMD etc. I had friends from all groups, we mixed and if we went to a gig it would not matter if it was The Meteors or some Cure type band playing, it was about the company, the drink, the chat, all was enjoyed. What is an ex-Psychobilly up to these days? The usual, mortgage, cars, career, the 80's/90's are a foggy distant memory but one day I will look back on today with nostalgia. (Well, once this crap we are all in has ended) Love to all.

    • @letitiabradin810
      @letitiabradin810 Před rokem +9

      me, too bob, i was a punk rocker in 80s, still a punk rocker now too, punk outfits too, but i love different music too, except stupid hip hop, me and my friends at first were scared to share other musical taste, but i opened up first, then they all chip in and opened up real good, i too had punks/metalheads/goths/mods/skinheads/new romantics/rockers(brian adams type of crowd too), now as i write this i'm listening to howard jones, 80s stuff,.....still a punk rocker all these years,.....marius(punk rules)., but still enjoy 80s music to this day.i'm on old grandpa(52yrs old).

    • @lindsaytoles2023
      @lindsaytoles2023 Před rokem +5

      I was hoping to find something like this in the comments. ❤

    • @mynamejeff3545
      @mynamejeff3545 Před rokem +11

      @@letitiabradin810 Strange that you don't like hiphop. I've hear from more ex-teenage punkers, metalheads etc that while they listened to a wide range of music, rap was almost universally considered "stupid" and not worth listening to, even more so than pop. Maybe the 80's were a different time, but nowadays there's a large overlap between punk and hiphop (at least in the scenes I frequent), in both message and fanbase. Metal is full of escapism and the occasional nazi, rock hasn't been counterculture in 30 years, only punk and hiphop still genuinely air their grievances with society through music. The only difference is how much emphasis is on each of the instrument, and the color of the artists' skin.

    • @letitiabradin810
      @letitiabradin810 Před rokem

      @@mynamejeff3545 dude, i can tell you are a young lad, me i'm an old lad, lets say grandpa, i'm almost 60, now do you know where hip hop came from originaly, nope you don't, it came from deep down in the african jungle, to call up demons, upon the white enemies, like you, now why do you thing hip hop ended up like this, think lad, from hip hop you hame crimes up, like murder, rapes, incest, cheat/lie, anything to get away with crimes, hip hop sucks no lie, it's not even music, just some guy trying to poop in the toilet and can't seem to get the caca out in time for lunch, even the Illuminati hates the whole hip hop crapy scenes and music, why do you think, hip hop artists, end up with their legs up in the air dead, 8 feet under, have fun discovering the truth, before it's too late laddy,.....marius(punk rules).

    • @courtnayj4990
      @courtnayj4990 Před rokem

      @@mynamejeff3545 I'm 54 and I feel the same about hip-hop/rap. It must be a generational thing. And it has nothing to do with skin color. I'm a HUGE jazz fan, 50s & 60s old-school jazz, and that is almost exclusively a black genre. I just don't like hip-hop and rap. I thought it was silly when I first heard it on that dumb, annoying show "Yo MTV Raps".

  • @jhaik2008
    @jhaik2008 Před 3 lety +800

    Our generation.
    I'm 51 now!

    • @lilbertsmom3561
      @lilbertsmom3561 Před 3 lety +17

      I never considered myself any one thing. Most of the time I dressed pretty normal but sometimes I would do myself up like those girls in the video. My dad used to make fun of me for dressing in the dark whenever I dressed like that.

    • @habeebee
      @habeebee Před 3 lety +8

      Every once in a while I wouldn't mind the chance to, just one more time, doing my hair up like that, eyeliner, torn black jeans, discount army boots, and going to the club to dance like we did back then. Not that I've been pining back ever since, there was plenty of other stuff to get into in the next couple of decades, but teenage kicks, they will always be their own thing in your heart

    • @808HEAVEN
      @808HEAVEN Před 3 lety +6

      @Jerzy Dziś youre just too lazy to look for the right music....i guess thats what happens when a whole generation was raised on radio music. Everything played on the radio back then, nowadays you would probably pull your hair out trying to find a teenager who listens to the radio. Its a needle in a haystack

    • @VipericVampire
      @VipericVampire Před 3 lety +1

      HOW FOOKIN DEPRESSING!!

    • @PolarBear-rc4ks
      @PolarBear-rc4ks Před 3 lety

      @Jerzy Dziś ahhh but the Beiber and Grande fans are just normies 👀

  • @davidellis5141
    @davidellis5141 Před 5 lety +1933

    The Cure did not like being classified as a Goth Band. Neither did Siouxsie. Fun times in the late 80's .

    • @LilNicky109
      @LilNicky109 Před 3 lety +108

      @Miss Yancey No, the music is Goth. The Gothiest goth that ever gothed. Blacker than the blackest black x Infinity 🖤🖤🖤

    • @youarentfunny9775
      @youarentfunny9775 Před 3 lety +17

      @@LilNicky109 LMAO

    • @speakertreatz
      @speakertreatz Před 3 lety +113

      None of them liked being classified as a Goth Band, but didn't complain about the concert ticket sales or record sales that came with being identified with a subculture. Goth was the subculture and The Cure and Siouxsie, whether they liked it or not, were the main bands loved and celebrated in that culture, along with Bauhaus and Sisters Of Mercy (Mk 1). You had bands like The Cult and The Mission who were just hard rock/metal but were co-opted into the subculture for other reasons, the look, the attitude, an association with another band and often just because girls fancied the singer. Wayne Hussey did no complaining about his bands following being largely teenage goth girls in love with him.

    • @LilNicky109
      @LilNicky109 Před 3 lety +28

      @@speakertreatz The Mission and The Cult are both Post-Punk and Goth Rock, which are 2 of the main subgenres in Goth subculture.

    • @speakertreatz
      @speakertreatz Před 3 lety +6

      @@LilNicky109 I'd argue that neither of them were post-punk for starter. The Cult originally made psychedelic rock like She Sells Santuary, with hippie-ish aspects, then went full on cock-rock with almost parodic piss take songs like Lil Devil and Wildflower. It was Paisley shirts in the SSS era, then leather and tight pants. The main thing that locked it all together was the apparent charisma and looks and image of Ian Astbury. A Jim Morrison style singer was always welcome in Goth fan circles. There's absolutely NOTHING about The Mission that was goth, the music was bombastic, earnest American soft rock. BUT it was a de facto Goth band because it was a spin off of the Sisters and borrow many of its mother band's pretentiousness and affectations (without the tongue in cheek humour). And because Wayne Hussey had a huge goth female following and was one of the the scene's 'sex symbols.

  • @LANGI902
    @LANGI902 Před 3 lety +100

    SISTERS OF MERCY, THE CURE, DEAD CAN DANCE, FLOCK OF SEAGULLS, JOY DIVISION, CHRISTIAN DEATH, BANSHEES, SIMPLE MINDS, MODERN ENGLISH, XYMOX, TEARS FOR FEARS, PLAY DEAD, DEPECHE MODE, KILLING JOKE, ECHO & THE BUNNYMEN, 45 GRAVE, DANSE SOCIETY, SOFT CELL - TOO MANY TO NAME OFF! AMAZING DECADE.

    • @Voyasermama
      @Voyasermama Před 3 lety +6

      if did not mentioned alien sex fiend you're officially dead

    • @LANGI902
      @LANGI902 Před rokem

      @@Voyasermama I've tried time and time again, can't get into them!

    • @LANGI902
      @LANGI902 Před rokem

      @@Voyasermama respect though

    • @Voyasermama
      @Voyasermama Před rokem +1

      @@LANGI902then you don’t understand Goth my friend. Im so sorry for your loss. Respect tho

    • @LANGI902
      @LANGI902 Před rokem +1

      @@Voyasermama haha I'm fine with that. I like what I like.

  • @themaggattack
    @themaggattack Před 3 lety +272

    "Do you listen to only one group?"
    "No. We listen to The Cure AND The Smiths."
    🤣🤣

    • @olympian3
      @olympian3 Před 3 lety +35

      the cure and the smiths are like siblings who hate eachother, they dislike one another but ultimately they're of the same stock

    • @anonb4632
      @anonb4632 Před 3 lety +7

      Sisters of Mercy was better.

    • @anonb4632
      @anonb4632 Před 3 lety

      @David Flores Is that you Rev Paisley?

    • @dabelli3818
      @dabelli3818 Před 3 lety +2

      Didn't she say "stuff like this" ?

  • @robax
    @robax Před 3 lety +544

    The most frightening fashion in this is right at the start

  • @mandystory4275
    @mandystory4275 Před 3 lety +197

    Some where right now, some teenager just saw their parents on this video.

    • @aliadidondiaa8024
      @aliadidondiaa8024 Před 3 lety +2

      some have small children

    • @Oliviux78
      @Oliviux78 Před 3 lety

      I was just like them at that time. My daughter is in her early 20s.

  • @Alexander_Tronstad
    @Alexander_Tronstad Před 3 lety +826

    Behold how much better their style holds up vs. the "normal" look of the time. The interviewer looks ridiculous.

    • @speakertreatz
      @speakertreatz Před 3 lety +36

      the 'normal style' has held up so well it's been completely appropriated by the high street since the mid 2010s. High waisted jeans, pristine trainers and preppy ankle socks, short bomber jackets, athleisurewear, step haircuts. None of that looks familiar to you? The interviewer was a middle aged journalist, look at the young people.

    • @aliadidondiaa8024
      @aliadidondiaa8024 Před 3 lety +3

      @@speakertreatz yes all our cultures styles are being raided by fashion 90%+ of what one sees are all my cultures and how we grew up

    • @robertcrusher1972
      @robertcrusher1972 Před 3 lety +23

      The interviewer is what kids are dressing like right now (December 2020) I have a hard time with kids looking like a bunch of moms from my younger days.
      Not that they aren’t beautiful naturally, but the fashion reminds me of stuffy unlikable people I remember. Not the kids fault, but...it’s just that way I guess based on living memory.
      Giant sweaters jackets and oversized glasses, clothes in bright blocky colors. High pants, and belted things. And, I dunno...intentionally bad haircuts?
      They look like little mean teachers I had. Of course, they are still cute people whom carry it off, but it’s weird to see the worst “average, Sears-like fashion” be made actual FASHION today.

    • @loki9943
      @loki9943 Před 3 lety

      @@aliadidondiaa8024 what culture is that

    • @Superbed2
      @Superbed2 Před 3 lety

      @@loki9943 all of them

  • @Jaytecx
    @Jaytecx Před 3 lety +80

    Even the “goth” kids still had that Irish charm.

  • @lameassbitch6341
    @lameassbitch6341 Před 4 lety +185

    this makes me so happy and i don’t know why

  • @Ethan2Tone
    @Ethan2Tone Před 3 lety +57

    *Interviewer:* What are you?
    *Victor Van Dort from Corpse Bride:* um, nothing.

  • @daphnecarpenter2794
    @daphnecarpenter2794 Před 3 lety +84

    All of these kids seem to have such a sweet demeanor. They’re uncorrupted by the social media wave of the next generations.

    • @kelvinize
      @kelvinize Před rokem

      @Sine Nomine GenZ should stop blaming their parents generation for their problems

    • @xXInfinityDiesXx
      @xXInfinityDiesXx Před rokem +6

      The next generations are sweet, too, you're just old

    • @Uchyiamada
      @Uchyiamada Před rokem

      @@xXInfinityDiesXx You sure? Tossing around "racist", "nazi", "chauvinist", "transphobic", "islamophobic", "my safe space" etcetera casually like it's nothing and blindly believing every single word the government or massmedia claims doesn't really come off as "sweet" to me. Of course not everyone are like that, but I don't remember this being a thing at all when I was growing up.

    • @xXInfinityDiesXx
      @xXInfinityDiesXx Před rokem +6

      @@Uchyiamada Everyone only remembers the best things from their own generations. Your generation had many of its own issues that could be said, a lot of which is the same as current generations, yet you don't recognize it because of nostalgia and the good memories you had. How is you blindly hating on the new generation any different from the interviewers in this video? The truth is the interviewers were older and bitter about the youth they were talking to, just as you're now old and bitter in your comment toward younger generations.

    • @Uchyiamada
      @Uchyiamada Před rokem

      @@xXInfinityDiesXx How am I "bitter" for simply stating what I've experienced in my everyday life? I also wrote that not everyone are like that, so I'm not sure why you're generalizing me. I'm also not as "old" as you think, probably younger than you :D
      And yeah, the biggest issue "my generation" has is that we allowed the Western world to become what it is today, instead of preserving it.

  • @carafeeley
    @carafeeley Před rokem +4

    Dublin is still a pretty diverse place style wise, you do see a lot of alternative and interesting outfits on teenagers and young adults these days. I walk through Grafton street (the road they are on in this clip) every day to get to work and I see crowds like this every day. It does make me happy, and I’m glad it’s been like that for a while, because diversity in what used to be such a conservative country is always great to see.

    • @carafeeley
      @carafeeley Před rokem

      @ciao214Z Not what I was talking about, I mean that there is still a large ‘gothic’ community in Dublin, as well as people that express themselves through their fashion in a unique way.

  • @andrerose3101
    @andrerose3101 Před 4 lety +1926

    I understand irish english better than british english.

  • @newdamage5945
    @newdamage5945 Před 3 lety +378

    Reminds me of today when everyone asks hipsters if they are hipsters and they always "no." Except Goths are actually cool.

    • @jaspermcminnis5538
      @jaspermcminnis5538 Před 3 lety +10

      I don't understand hipsters.

    • @grizzyb4149
      @grizzyb4149 Před 3 lety +33

      @@jaspermcminnis5538 It's just vapid vacuous nothingness trying to be something.

    • @lor5272
      @lor5272 Před 3 lety +3

      @@jaspermcminnis5538 tumblr

    • @heckzotica
      @heckzotica Před 3 lety +2

      Ha! That's exactly what I told the person I was watching this with!

    • @garyh4458
      @garyh4458 Před 3 lety +24

      Goths were a reflection of their musical taste. You could see one and know exactly what kind of music they like and which clubs they would be seen at. Hipsters seem more like just fashionable posers. No real identity other than trying to look like other hipsters. Correct me if I am wrong.

  • @cichobosieniewgra
    @cichobosieniewgra Před rokem +12

    it's amazing to see how elaborate and intelligent these kids were back in the 80s and 90s. Things have changed since then...

  • @renemersi5209
    @renemersi5209 Před 2 lety +36

    back then ppl lived the reality.. nothing was simulated.. love this authentic interviews

  • @Veluvian
    @Veluvian Před 3 lety +583

    Rule No1: No matter If you're a goth or not, you should DENY it, no matter what arguments they have against you, never ever admit it, or the magic is gone :D

    • @lilithjade4363
      @lilithjade4363 Před 3 lety +137

      LMAO literally. they were like “i’m not goth” then three seconds later “why do you wear that?” “oh just typical goth jewelry”

    • @blatherskite3009
      @blatherskite3009 Před 3 lety +50

      That is ... true. I don't remember a single person from that era who ever actually "self-identifed" as a goth :) Whenever I was asked, I'd say I thought of myself as more of a gothy-hippy-ish creature really. Because I smiled and wore a bit of colour among all the monochrome, I guess :) We tended to think of the true "goths" as the ones who never smiled, never broke character, wore things like full wedding-dresses, the full gothic romance thing, and seemed to absolutely live like that 24/7. Next-level, basically.

    • @luanasoares7237
      @luanasoares7237 Před 3 lety +29

      Basically, everyone is different even in the goth scene. There are one hundred types of being goth, you can be goth having your own essence, that's why no one's just goth, but themselves plus goth :)

    • @blatherskite3009
      @blatherskite3009 Před 3 lety +21

      @@luanasoares7237 I think you've cracked it there - no-one really identified as "a goth" because that seemed too simple a descriptor ... people saw themselves as more like a mix of goth plus other elements.
      Funny thing is, I think all of us probably knew people that you saw in the clubs that we thought were the goths - and, in truth, they probably didn't thnk of themselves as the goths either, and thought the goths were us :)

    • @michaelcorcoran3942
      @michaelcorcoran3942 Před 3 lety +9

      Classic heel. NEVER. BREAK. CHARACTER.

  • @audhdcreativity5899
    @audhdcreativity5899 Před 2 lety +32

    Awww, I was a punk flower child visiting in Dublin in '90 ♡ I remember seeing groups of goths and thinking they were beautiful 😍

  • @ajstudios9210
    @ajstudios9210 Před rokem +38

    I love The Cure, The Smiths, and The B52s 😊 Such great oldies!

  • @ooll6600
    @ooll6600 Před 3 lety +32

    The girls all look stunning! Their styles etc. have held up great

  • @abangemirzaihanabangzulkip9502

    1:42 - 1:54 so no one is going to mention how beautiful this girl is? Her smile is absolutely out of this world. 😍🖤

    • @BenAstridge
      @BenAstridge Před 3 lety +11

      As soon as i saw her i thought this exact clip MUST have been the insp for the girl in the movie sing street. She looks exactly the same, face, hair and style wise

    • @ksodz1397
      @ksodz1397 Před 2 lety +9

      1:26 is more beautiful imo

    • @filipmalcic6167
      @filipmalcic6167 Před rokem +1

      Yeah i saw it right away

    • @EtsiJuuret
      @EtsiJuuret Před rokem

      ​@@ksodz1397she is the same girl

    • @Unknown-sz8kg
      @Unknown-sz8kg Před rokem +1

      Simp alert!

  • @NubianGirl7
    @NubianGirl7 Před 3 lety +38

    0:53 that gothic guy is cute 🖤

    • @kristinak1723
      @kristinak1723 Před 3 lety +1

      Finally! I've been looking for this comment for a long time 🖤🙌🏽

    • @nerdzuu229
      @nerdzuu229 Před 3 lety +1

      I KNOW RIGHTTTT

    • @NubianGirl7
      @NubianGirl7 Před 2 lety

      @@kristinak1723 haha thank 🖤 sending love from London

    • @Fatboy00000
      @Fatboy00000 Před 4 měsíci

      He is 55, fat and bald now

  • @mthomas1973
    @mthomas1973 Před 3 lety +20

    Intelligent individuals who think outside the norms of society.
    Admirable

  • @leftrunner2438
    @leftrunner2438 Před 3 lety +9

    Good times. I was 21 in 1989. and remember wearing Goth style earnings and necklace.

  • @user-jt2xf1un2g
    @user-jt2xf1un2g Před 3 lety +34

    I love the old school style of the Gothic scene. The old original of the scene

  • @oswig1768
    @oswig1768 Před 3 lety +15

    Her great aunts cloak, wowzer, so she is in her 20’s, her mum probably in her 40’s, her grandmother in her 60’s and her great aunt in her 80’s and this was in 1989, so her great aunt was born early 1900’s. That cape could be 100 years old as of today or older, that’s one incredible sentimental family item, lets hope the girl didn’t destroy it.

  • @tonolinus
    @tonolinus Před rokem +15

    love it. what beautiful times. youth is so much fun.

  • @xyhmo
    @xyhmo Před 3 lety +16

    Why are they all so likable

  • @killjoy555.
    @killjoy555. Před 3 lety +31

    everything was sooo beautiful

  • @jennytaylor3324
    @jennytaylor3324 Před 3 lety +49

    I was getting Strawberry Switchblade vibes from some of those girls. The Celts do oesoteric looks well!

  • @cristalblackstar8177
    @cristalblackstar8177 Před 3 lety +26

    All the looks are so original their really show a personality.

  • @letmetellyousomething123
    @letmetellyousomething123 Před 3 lety +27

    They're all so polite. I was right in the thick of it in Dublin in the 80's.

    • @Bm23CC
      @Bm23CC Před 3 lety +4

      They're all D4 heads.

    • @speakertreatz
      @speakertreatz Před rokem

      @@Bm23CC No they aren't. Did you know any of them?

  • @TheT3rrifyingNuclearCat
    @TheT3rrifyingNuclearCat Před rokem +6

    I wish teenagers today were like this. I’d rather live in the 80s than deal with most people in 2022.

  • @GumterFaustino
    @GumterFaustino Před 3 lety +9

    they all look so so gorgeous

  • @servidig483
    @servidig483 Před 3 lety +19

    Aah the old days of socialising

  • @cherbrowne1637
    @cherbrowne1637 Před 3 lety +13

    Good to see and nice The Smiths got a mention. Years later the looks continue.. Sometimes modified.. .A homage to an amazing unforgettable era. ❤

  • @matthewarmitage6681
    @matthewarmitage6681 Před 3 lety +14

    I am from the England and I remember seeing The Cure at Crystal Palace back in the day, I met some Irish fans and had a great time.

    • @stephendarcy9803
      @stephendarcy9803 Před 3 lety +2

      Think I was at that gig(?) I remember there being a lake in front of the stage. I was near the front & when they came on & opened with Shake Dog Shake the whole place went mental!! Great gig.

  • @ninaa4963
    @ninaa4963 Před 3 lety +54

    i just want this back in dublin thanks 😭

    • @blackferdinand2260
      @blackferdinand2260 Před 3 lety +11

      What if you make Dublin like that again yourself by dressing goth

    • @ninaa4963
      @ninaa4963 Před 3 lety +2

      @@blackferdinand2260 oh trust me i do dress the way i want i would just like to see more goths and punks in town,it’s refreshing not being the only one with my taste in music and my interests but obv some people might just have same interests and not dress it so you never know

    • @Ricardo-mr3bg
      @Ricardo-mr3bg Před 3 lety +2

      @@MadeInDublin71 Ireland was a third world shithole back then. Outside Dublin it was extremely poor, some places didn't even have electricity.

    • @Ricardo-mr3bg
      @Ricardo-mr3bg Před 3 lety +1

      @@MadeInDublin71 Never said they starved to death.

    • @speakertreatz
      @speakertreatz Před 3 lety +7

      We're looking at the fun part in this video. The fun part, the monied part, the safe part. If you turned the camera off, walked up to Stephens Green and turned right, you'd pretty soon find yourself in a dangerous zone, not just but including Mercer House flats, which is STILL dangerous in broad daylight in 2020. All the surrounding streets including Camden St and beyond had few shops, were badly lit, not many people around. The further you went in ANY direction after that, you weren't safe especially Christchurch/Thomas St, which was an absolute no-go area beyond the Tivoli and there was nothing there anyway but flats and houses. When the Spar opened up on that corner of Mother Redcaps it was like it lit the whole street up. People forget Dublin city centre 1989 was a dangerous, poverty stricken area in places outside of the likes of Grafton St.

  • @user-yb3yg4ti6g
    @user-yb3yg4ti6g Před 3 lety +7

    Какие все молодые ,красивые ,весёлые ребята !!!Я родилась в 1989г .Мне очень нравится одежда ,которая на ребятах ,я тоже кое-что носила из такого стиля .Жаль ,что сейчас большинства людей злые ,забитые ,и бестолковые .

  • @dannij7081
    @dannij7081 Před 3 lety +6

    I wonder if the journalist get a new wardrobe. I love that us 80's kids had a blast wearing what we wanted and lived it.

  • @deanafromchicago6661
    @deanafromchicago6661 Před 3 lety +21

    “Are you a Goth? or Curehead?” 😁🤣
    I was never asked these questions during that period... 🤷‍♀️

  • @yamigurl822
    @yamigurl822 Před 3 lety +607

    Why THE F IS SHE TOUCHING EVERYONE I WOULD FEEL SO UNCOMFORTABLE LIKE LADY WHY DO YOU THINK YOU CAN TOUCH ME?!

    • @eleafnor
      @eleafnor Před 3 lety +29

      fr when she was talking to the girl about her necklace i was like 😐😐 like why did she touch everyone’s shoulders ugh wweirddds

    • @AJanae.
      @AJanae. Před 3 lety +79

      Before covid casually touching was normal. Hugging, hand shaking, brushing up on arms, hands and back.. very normal. And if that’s too touchy for you, you should see what my family from Indonesia and Holland is like ;D

    • @llovescake15
      @llovescake15 Před 3 lety +67

      It's the 1989s not 2020, the females didnt seem to have a problem now please shut up

    • @viljamtheninja
      @viljamtheninja Před 3 lety +53

      In the beforetime, people weren't afraid of other people and obsessed with personal safe spaces and whatnot

    • @starfox1
      @starfox1 Před 3 lety +54

      gurl this was before people created safe spaces and before everyone came out as trans non binary . back in the day it was ok to hug and be close to people. nowadays you have to be careful about assuming anything. im not talking about covid social distancing. im talking about the threat of getting a phone pulled out and someone cancelling you

  • @DavySuicide
    @DavySuicide Před 3 lety +1

    Lovely short snipped, thx a lot! It was a few years before my actual time :)

  • @emmssi8714
    @emmssi8714 Před rokem +2

    I’m fascinated 🥹 I wish I could’ve what it felt like to have grown up during that era

  • @cerulean25
    @cerulean25 Před 3 lety +9

    "What are you?"
    "Erhm, nothing."
    Same sir, same right here.

  • @BrokenBellyBeat
    @BrokenBellyBeat Před rokem +7

    Awww... The steps.... It's such a pity they fenced us all out it was a great spot for like minds to come together. Love yas all the alternative Dublin crew through the ages 🖤

  • @pennybourke1111
    @pennybourke1111 Před 3 lety +7

    The Cure The Smith's Siouxsie and the Banshees Depeche Mode and Bauhaus is all i listened too at that time. B52s and Duran Duran were too commercial for me at that time as we used to say back then haha so silly of me to even think that way.. I still love these bands Bella Lugosi's Dead and Black Celebration Album are still played very often in my music list..

  • @mikescott433
    @mikescott433 Před 3 lety +14

    ...well filmed, a youth culture with great style and also smart, even the breakdancer looks cool, not like nowdays!
    i knew 'new wave/goth' people in her 40/50's and it looks fine - you can grow old in pride in those genres...

    • @letitiabradin810
      @letitiabradin810 Před rokem +1

      i'm 52 and still a punk rocker,.......love goth music too,.....and new wave of the 80s,.....marius(punk rules).

  • @timmc6009
    @timmc6009 Před 3 lety +24

    I'd love to see a where are they now video of these people from this video.

  • @Moonview90
    @Moonview90 Před 3 lety +24

    I loved the Jimmy Neutron fans.

  • @ragingzim
    @ragingzim Před 3 lety +1

    Brilliant footage!

  • @opalescentmica
    @opalescentmica Před rokem +2

    They LOVE labels now

  • @ThinkerOnTheBus
    @ThinkerOnTheBus Před rokem +7

    "I want to be different . . . just like everyone else.", and that is yet another element of the punk scene that appealed to me; doing your own thing for you, yourself.
    There are various subgenres within the punk scene, and nearly everyone has a certain uniform, a specific costume, or a look that is widely accepted, and to some, even considered mandatory. So even within the punk scene, you had imitators, and conformists, with too many attitudes that if you don't look this way, or wear this type of clothing, then you are not truly a (fill in the blank). However, at least there was a small segment of the punk scene that carried the DIY attitude into the fashion element of punk, or non-fashion, or anti-fashion, and didn't feel they had to look any certain way, and that's what I did . . . maintained that DIY attitude, and cared not what everybody else thought, what they were doing, or how they presented themselves to others through their clothing.
    I never felt the need to self-identify via outfits to inform total strangers of who I was, or what I was into. Besides, even if I did follow some unwritten dress code, most other people would not have a single clue as to what I was broadcasting with my clothing. The only other people who would be able to derive any information about me based upon how I looked and the clothing I wore (such as my musical preference, or my political viewpoints, or what was important to me in life), would be others into the same scene I was into, or to some extent, others into similar scenes to mine (one being a subgenre of the other, or perhaps a crossover, or maybe just neighbors on the same branch of the musical genre tree) . . . meaning those who dressed the same as me.
    However, it wouldn't likely be my comrades within my town who could derive any information about me based on how I looked, for they would already know me, and thus, know about me. They would already know who I was, because those types of groups are typically so small, and tightly interwoven in most cities. With me knowing everyone within my group, I would need to travel to another city for my uniform to possess the power to inform complete strangers of what type of person I was, including my musical preference. This would be about the only way for my costume to have the potential to produce any real accurate assessment of me as a person (my musical tastes, and political viewpoints, and whathaveyou) by complete strangers. So, what then is the purpose of needing to don a specific look if you listen to a specific genre of music? Perhaps in the more mediocre, mainstream classifications, there will be those who are into the same things as someone else, and they still won't know each other because it is such a large group of people. In such circumstances, a uniform may serve a practical purpose. However, once you enter into the social construct of a smaller group, it doesn't take long for you to meet everyone else within said group. So, yet again, what's with the outfits? The uniforms? The costumes??? I never comprehended the appeal of looking like everyone else. I guess it is related to our psychological need to be accepted and feel as if you are a part of a community, as if you belonged to something. So, I have always much preferred being different, but not like everyone else. Just no worries, nor concern, doing my own thing without the need to broadcast to the public that THIS IS WHO I AM!
    The following video clip pretty much sums it all up for me: czcams.com/video/oHRWahLcivs/video.html

  • @PretentiousPete
    @PretentiousPete Před 2 lety +3

    I'm living for the girl with the strawberry switchblade streamers at 0:56

  • @MiinkyxMoony
    @MiinkyxMoony Před rokem +1

    they all look so nice and happy with their hair styles and clothes

  • @rafidhassanoney4007
    @rafidhassanoney4007 Před 6 měsíci +1

    They looked fabulous ! All of them !

  • @facingthewind
    @facingthewind Před 2 lety +4

    Was not expecting the B-52s to get a mention by the chicks at 3:20 but that’s pretty cool

  • @bostonsandatot4948
    @bostonsandatot4948 Před 3 lety +13

    Love this so much. So glad this was me in the 90s.

  • @duality4y
    @duality4y Před rokem

    this made me smile and somehow this is what i needed this morning :)

  • @krotan3845
    @krotan3845 Před rokem +3

    00:58 If I don't throw it away, it lasts much longer. I love this woman!

  • @dk7442
    @dk7442 Před 3 lety +21

    "People are strange" fading in the beginning ...

    • @whitebloodcell9158
      @whitebloodcell9158 Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks

    • @stream3333
      @stream3333 Před 3 lety +1

      The music that they are breakdancing to is Inner City - Big Fun
      One of the first House songs

  • @cj222100
    @cj222100 Před 4 lety +143

    The girl at 1:42 is stunning & I love her hair!

    • @cillian605
      @cillian605 Před 3 lety +5

      i wonder what age she is now and where she is now

    • @josephperkins4080
      @josephperkins4080 Před 3 lety +8

      Yep 80s babes was hot back then

    • @briscoethecollie1510
      @briscoethecollie1510 Před 3 lety +1

      @@josephperkins4080 you say that again, bro!

    • @dylanryan2567
      @dylanryan2567 Před 3 lety +19

      As soon as I seen her I came straight to the comments section 'cause I knew I wasn't alone in thinking that! Haha
      Certainly a beautiful lady!

    • @speakertreatz
      @speakertreatz Před 3 lety +8

      @@cillian605 that gang were all about two or three years older than me and I'm 48 so all of them over 50.

  • @seattlebeard
    @seattlebeard Před rokem +2

    I wouldn't have been caught dead talking to a journalist when I was a punk in the 70s. I'm nearly 63 now and still wouldn't talk to one.

  • @bloochoob
    @bloochoob Před rokem +6

    I was a psychobilly in the early 80s, and even now in my 50s, I still love the music

  • @emieve617
    @emieve617 Před 3 lety +5

    Such cute outfits! Would definitely wear now! 😍🖤🙌🏻

  • @briscoethecollie1510
    @briscoethecollie1510 Před 3 lety +17

    The blonde girl at 0:50 is lovely

  • @seesritual8990
    @seesritual8990 Před 3 lety +8

    02:30 Some say he is still spinning to this very day..

  • @sietecarpinchos635
    @sietecarpinchos635 Před 3 lety +6

    02:49 my boy morrissey being a handsome man af

  • @kaoduil
    @kaoduil Před 3 lety +574

    Such cool kids and way smarter than the badly dressed condescending interviewer.

    • @garrywindshield1
      @garrywindshield1 Před 3 lety +6

      You are obviously too young too judge well (lol). She wasn't condescending. Wearing rosary is dumb, for example, cause they don't realize what that thing means. They don't have a complete understanding of what the prayer is. This downfall lead to what we have today in our atrocious culture.

    • @joaquinlopeztorres1071
      @joaquinlopeztorres1071 Před 3 lety +26

      @@garrywindshield1 ok boomer

    • @dabdabthethird2410
      @dabdabthethird2410 Před 3 lety +20

      @@garrywindshield1 “that wasn’t condescending” -proceeds to be condescending 😂😂

    • @garrywindshield1
      @garrywindshield1 Před 3 lety +1

      @@dabdabthethird2410 it will stay like this to you until you become smarter. If ever

    • @dabdabthethird2410
      @dabdabthethird2410 Před 3 lety +12

      @@garrywindshield1 more condescending. Classic lack of self awareness here 😂😂

  • @karlmartin849
    @karlmartin849 Před rokem +7

    They look so much nicer than the youth from my generation.

  • @monsterguyx6322
    @monsterguyx6322 Před 3 lety +1

    ohhh wow this was so fun to watch!

  • @emmetkelly8372
    @emmetkelly8372 Před 3 lety +23

    This video makes me proud to be Irish!

  • @orangesporanges1504
    @orangesporanges1504 Před 3 lety +7

    I was 16 in 1989 and living in WV, then in 1992 in Pennsylvania. Apparently I lived in the wrong place.☺️Would have been nice to have some likeminded friends.

  • @jillconner5062
    @jillconner5062 Před rokem +5

    They are all so attractive. You can still see it under even the craziest look.

    • @Drowning_lessons_123
      @Drowning_lessons_123 Před rokem +2

      Who cares? They’re expressing themselves and that’s what *they* want to do

  • @MiinkyxMoony
    @MiinkyxMoony Před rokem +1

    i would love to be friends with people like that, so unconcerned with what other people think and just doing what they like

  • @clydeg4274
    @clydeg4274 Před rokem +1

    Nostalgia for a time I never experienced

  • @genevievemorgan7821
    @genevievemorgan7821 Před 3 lety +5

    They're all so lovely!

  • @umitanonymous3400
    @umitanonymous3400 Před 3 lety +13

    0:53
    " what are You ? "
    " Nothing".
    Sounds like Heidegger and Sartre.

    • @user-cd8cd6yj7v
      @user-cd8cd6yj7v Před 3 lety

      Это высказывание больше напоминает русских нигилистов

    • @DynastyLuminous46
      @DynastyLuminous46 Před 3 lety +1

      Heidegger would've written a large work on that question posed right there, and end up not being able to answer it.
      Sartre would simply say he is ashamed.

  • @shortwidgets
    @shortwidgets Před rokem

    I backpacked Europe right after a few years after this video. Was amazing!

  • @DN-fs2kb
    @DN-fs2kb Před rokem

    this is the video that first got me into goth, thank you. Its nice to know that you dont need to go all out for the look and its okay to tone it down

  • @elisa-gracebrown-wilson8631

    Love seeing this history so beautiful

  • @Amy-gm6ng
    @Amy-gm6ng Před 3 lety +4

    It's amazing to see this. My mom always tells me about her style back in the old days and about the music. Only con she never could help me with my makeup because she only knows how to do some heavy black eye makeup.

    • @hitakkjismith3115
      @hitakkjismith3115 Před 3 lety +2

      lol old days

    • @TallulahFoxxx
      @TallulahFoxxx Před rokem +2

      When I was a young teenager the only make up my mum could do was pink and blue eyeshadow. Pink on the inner part of the eye, blue on the outer 😂 she was a 70s-80s disco/funk then glam rock queen 😂😂😂
      I inherited a playsuit from her: it’s cobalt blue, halter neck but it has lapels, it cinches in at the waist, then it ends in ultra short shorts. You wouldn’t need to take it off for your gyno appointment it was that short 😂👌🏻 this is EXACTLY why she never told me off for wearing skirts that were “too short” when I was a teenager 😂👌🏻 She would be a hypocrite 😂😂😂
      EDIT: She’s also 5’9 and was slim. Her legs looked supernaturally long, and she said she wore nude heels so they looked even longer 😂👏🏻 I always picture this Amazonian-yet-Scottish diva 😂👏🏻 (we’re Scottish: ginger, curly hair and fair skin 😂👌🏻). She travelled during that time and went to the USA - she spent most of her time in Philly in the funk/disco/Motown clubs 😂😂

    • @TallulahFoxxx
      @TallulahFoxxx Před rokem +1

      And just to finish the saga: I’m NOT 5’9 and super slim. I’m 5’4 on a good day, I’m curvy pear shaped and I have a long back and short legs 😂😂😂 literally the opposite body. We have the same hair and colouring though 😂👌🏻

  • @formidablefriend8228
    @formidablefriend8228 Před 3 lety

    That's fun, youtube decided I need to see Dublin Goth New Wave Movement, 1989 (Uncensored) and I obliged.

  • @supermeansadie6753
    @supermeansadie6753 Před rokem +3

    I must say, I still love the Cure! Still one of my absolute favorite bands! I’m glad I got to see them at least once live in 1996! I cried they were amazing! I was never a “Curehead” as far as my dressing in highschool but I’ll always love that band!