Just How Bad Was NYCK DE VRIES In F1?
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- čas přidán 12. 08. 2023
- Nyck Devries got a pretty bad wrap from his time in Formula 1, and I wanted to take a bit of a deep dive into his performance race by race to see for myself just how bad Nyck really performed.
Not even making it to summer break in his first full F1 season, Nyck Devries would get kicked from AlphaTauri after only ten races. But just how bad was he really?
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Great vid! Jus wanna point out that a formula e season takes place before n after the winter break so they label their seasons 2020/21 or 2021/22. So De Vries only won the championship in formula e once in the 2020/21 season
LOL mistaking 2020/21 season as 2020 and 2021 is kinda hilarious ngl.
Yeah, Félix da Costa won 2019/20
Only double champion is Eric Vergne
He back
Says it all really
From what I can recall, Nyck was nowhere near the pace of Tsunoda in Monaco, Tsunoda was ahead of Lando and Piastri in 8th place, if I am not wrong. Unfortunately, Tsunoda suffered a brake problem and he lost a lot of places, including one to Nyck and finished 2 laps down..
Not to mention Tsunoda finished 9th in Spain but dropped places due to the time penalty
Yuki was also one of the many victims.of the wild track violation penalties in Austria which were extremely inconsistent and weren't being relayed to the drivers as they occured, thus they drove the race thinking they were legal.
Both of NDV's finishes above him were lacking context in this video a little, although the video is very good.
Of course, I assume NDV had issues of his own this season as well which were perhaps forgotten as well, albeit I don't recall any significant ones.
The Sound effects for Formula E had me in stitches.
Thanks for that.
I thought I was having a heart attack every time the FE was on the screen
Tbh If he never got the call for AT, he'd be racing for williams and still have his seat as of now. The Williams is also a better car compared to this years AT, wonder how he wouldve performed there.
De Vries was never offered the Williams seat. They were always going with Sargeant.
@@fliptheswitch4Nope Dorilton capital wanted Sergeant, now his results are bad and brings no money from the American market they might drop him. De Vries was never their first option, De Vries tested with so many teams and none would take him outright. I think Marko just had it wrong this time. The f2 championship was won when Latifi became second, both after a few years in F2. FE is just a big lotery with how the rules are setup. He never was good enough.
Yep, your not the first one to say this, but was clearly not meant to be. For now but probably forever.
Just a correction: nyck didn't win a formula e championship in 2020 AND 2021. It's just that the season spanned across both years. So he only has one title
Just started the video and I thought: "Is this an FE bash or a Nyck hype cause seasons in FE are called as numbers cause the seasons are across two years".
(Only testing is nowdays before january)
Nah you did FE dirty with that Jetsons sound effect 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
When people talk about F2 winners they must also look at what happened during that season and before. Yes he won F2 . The person who came second was Latifi. That tells you it was a weak year for drivers. In addition this was his third year of trying by Nyck. Mick Schumacher is another example of a driver taking two years driving for the best team who scraped the title without a pole , a fastest lap. and just two wins. He was 12th the year before. Take Lando , he came second aged just 18 but was a rookie beaten by George who was also a rookie aged 19 and driving for a more successful team and three rounds before the end they were within six points of each other. He beat Albon, Devries , latifi etc . Lando had won five championships as a rookie back to back but his second in F2 is held up as a criticism.
So its all about context and who they were competing against. Nyck is a nice guy but was never more than a number two driver in reality even with an F2 title. When they get to F1 they are found out.
I think Nick's sacking is just a hard one to swallow especially for those who wanted him to do well. When we see people like stroll and latifi being able to stay in the sport for so long despite being way, way worse than him. In my opinion Nick was not the worst driver on the grid but ultimately money talks in motorsport, which is a sad truth for everyone.
No he sucked balls. Latifi was actually a good driver of you ignore the crashed. I'm half betting he was made to crash by the fia to spice things up, especially like in Abu Dhabi.
Also, stroll still is good enough to be demoted to a lower team but he totally is an f1 worthy driver
@@bigbadt My brother in christ, 2019 F2 season, Monza last year, there is no way in which Latifi deserved his seat more than de vries.
@@leoverrilli7498 I never said he did, what are you on about
@@bigbadtyou did
@@bigbadt latifi had a decent debut. And his confidence and willingness to stay was completely destroyed after the abu dhabi 2021 crash
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Great video as always!
I definitely was one of the people that had really high hopes for De Vires and I feel bad for how his F1 career ended. However, it has to be said - Nyck is not a rookie. He may be new to F1 but he is older than Max and unless he showed immediate results I understand why Red Bull didn't want to keep him. They're looking for a) real rookies to bring up to speed and make F1 superstars b) an already great driver ready to be paired-up with Max and fight for WCC in 2024 which may be a much tighter season than 2023.
PS: I'm also still holding-up hope for Sergio. He may have had a few bad results, but the way media and general fanbase are treating him is very saddening to see. I'm not defending his results but he may still be Max's Bottas and that's all that RB needs - a reliable 2nd driver that will bring enough points for a comfortable WCC next year.
ok so then why the fck out of all people bring DR back? This doesn't make any fkin sense at all. Plus your reasoning doesn't make sense for de vries because a) rookies with F1 superstar potential will clash with max and b) already great drivers aren't going to be put in a low tier car like AT, they'll most likely end up in the midfield. I can't think of an already great driver being hired in AT or, back then, toro rosso to be promoted to Red Bull again. Either great drivers end up in the midfield untill they retire or retire immediately. Pretty sure they hired de vries only to fire him and replace him with DR so they get extra publicity. Because why tf would AT hire a fall-from-grace can't drive with a mclaren-andy like daniel ricciardo?
"He may be new to F1"... I believe that would make him a rookie 😂 If you don't have a full F1 season in the books, you're a rookie.
@@Ditto370Z you know what he is trying to imply, dont twist or decredit his words. he was a rookie to f1, not a rookie to open wheel driving.
@@code01372So what your saying is that he's a rookie?
I've seen some people mentioning that Nyck wasn't the best FE champion as well. In the sense the year that he won, he didn't really get too much pole positions. Some say he won because he was just playing safe and got points consistently. 2020/2021 leader board points were so close you could really say he won by fate or luck, because the very next year he really fumbled it.
The thing with wins and pole positions in 20/21 were that they had a qualifying system based on the championship position. We had 11 different winners that season and without bad luck for the other ones he wouldnt have been champion
Exactly
Vandoorne would have won if he wasn't taken out 2 or even 3 times by title rivals! So Vandoorne would have been the 2020/2021 and 2021/2022 champion. Nick was just lucky to stay out of trouble.
Certainly not saying he is one of the best, though I feel like they didn't really give him enough time and support. Marko was just looking for any reason to get De Vries out of the car. I don't know how things were behind doors, but because Marko said what he said, it felt like AT and RB lacked commitment. Some people seem to expect De Vries to outperform Tsunoda just like that. Nyck has experience in other/lower classes, but I think F1 is quite a big step up from those classes.
yeah that's what strikes from that video. how they started putting pressure right after the first race was insane. so many things can go wrong that are outside of the driver's control and they judged him in such a tiny number of races. I'm not a fan of the guy as he seemed to have a huge ego but that sacking was ridiculous
the thing is they weren't looking for a young promising driver to give them time and make them comfortable, they already have Yuki covering that
they were looking for someone who can replace Perez after his contract and if things go wrong potentially sooner and DeVries was supposed to be that: experienced enough to not make rookie mistakes but still new to the sport and grateful enough to not upstage Max's position
and when DeVries wasn't even performing at Yuki's level they went for a safer option that was Daniel Ricciardo and i kinda understand them
@@crispybanana3198 Mmh, interesting. It might also (at least partly) explain the difference in opinion between Horner and Marko. Though I think it's not reasonable to expect Nyck to perform at the same level as Yuki. They are just too different. To be honest, I think Yuki has more market value to RB than having another Dutchman. There has to be something that compensates for Yuki's immature tantrums. I like spirit and emotion in F1, but his temper is just not productive. With all the coaching going on (he also seems to dislike physical training?) I can't imagine they would find that worth the investment if there was no money or exposure involved.
With Max as the star for years to come, all RB needs is someone who is willing to play second fiddle and bring in decent money from sponsors. And keep things hot enough to continue when Max leaves.
@@stem2603 i think Yuki started out at alphatauri as a part of a deal with Honda because they always push for a Japanese driver in their car so i think what will happen to Yuki in 2026 cause Honda will supply aston martin only and a seat after alonso or possibly even stroll could be free there and if Yuki doesn't make it to red bull by then he could make his way there i think
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Cool video man. Well done.
I think saying De Vries wasn't good enough is a bit stretched. In absolute terms, yeah he wasn't good enough for Red Bull tastes that wanted to put a fire under Perez's ass but at the same time when you look how patient Red Bull was with Tsunoda for example, De Vries definitely wasn't judged as a formula one rookie (and on some part he kinda brought this upon himself at the start of the season). I think he was perfectly capable of matching race pace of Tsunoda (and even Ricciardo) but the Red Bull environment wasn't going to make any compromise for a mercedes driver and it clearly showed. I believe it would've been the same with Mick Schumacher (and any of those 2 going into AT would've given the same result)
youre forgetting the fact that de vries was about 8 years older than tsunoda when each made their debut. sorry but a 28 year old driver doesnt have 3 years to get up to speed. especially when his past says that he never gets up to speed.
@@milanwyd441 because Tsunoda has a real history of being up to speed... I get your point and I even said De vries put himself in the shoes of saying "I am a formula E champion, I am not a rookie" but saying he wasn't good enough is still stretched when you look at how much time was given to him compared to other drivers, yeah age is a factor but age doesn't give F1 experiences, gp races gives F1 experiences
@@Shiinade tsunoda did get up to speed rather quickly in f2 for example. hes only done 1 season and couldve been champion if only feature races counted, 3rd is still very good.
and no, nyck did not deserve a shot in f1. sorry but thats the truth. he wasnt great in any series. he was never f1 level and never will be
I think De Vries should have stuck to Williams taking Logans spot for this season. Would have probably been a better and more comfortable place for De Vries, and would also save Logan from being let into F1 too early
@@TheoF1 de vries is just simply not f1 quality. never was, never will be and most people knew this before the season. he shouldve stuck with toyota and accepted their hypercar seat. he could be fighting for a championship rn
Just a small correction, he just won a single FE championship in 2020-21, but otherwise a great video
FE is weird: I think that when Nyck won the championship his teammate van Stoffel in the same car ended up 9th, the next year it was turned around. The class might be just too random and dependent on the energy level in the final rounds to give a real indication of driver skill, compared to combustion engines based cars
@@Abb0ablehe won due to the main competitor DNFing in the last race
@Abb0able They changed the quali format the following season to a less random format which hurt De Vries
@@Abb0ableStoffel Vandoorne.
@@erickrasniewski567 I read some claims that Nyck's championship was controversial at the time something to do with the point calculation by the FIA, on the other hand those were youtube comments... :D
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Appreciate you!
Just finished the video!
I think you summed his f1 journey well he wasn't bad, just not good enough for the RedBull expectations
Loved the white board highlighting his performances and to me he was getting closer to Tsunoda as the races went.
Sad he didn't get more time
Good vid❤
Saying Nyck "shined" in his junior career is BEYOND generous. He spent three years in F3, and only won that title bc LeClerc forgot what pace was in the second half of the season. He then spent three years in F2 getting beat by LeClerc, then Russel. After that he went into his... sad FE career, barely winning the title on his second go with his first and third years being almost pathetic. Then he went to F1 after driving three different cars in one weekend and showing some pace. The fact that his best finish was P12 and only finished ahead of Yuki TWICE showed he just didn't have pace. 10 races is enough to judge pace when you have 11 years in open wheel racing and the two people who whooped you savagely before you got lucky for your titles are in top teams. Even if that AT is the worst car on the grid, he had zero excuse to be as far behind as he was. Yuki was making him look like he'd never been in the same room as an F1 car let alone driven one, and in terms of incidents even Logan has a better record and he was pulled out of F2 a whole year early AT BEST. On top of Piastri catching up with Lando's pace in the same amount of time it took De Vries to get booted? Yeah. No sympathy. Even if you consider that Yuki got more time, that's bc Yuki was FAST for the car he had when he could keep it out of the wall (and he had good financial benefits). Nyck was not fast, nor did he provide the financial benefits.
Also he was not close to Tsunoda in Silverstone quali he was damn near half a second off and then finished the race almost 2 full seconds behind.
Chill out with the hate lmao ☠️
I reckon Logan Saergant was equally or worse than Devries due to his numerous crashes
The pressure under Marko is next level.
No disrespect to Sargeant but I think it would have been better if Williams had taken DeVries instead, he would have performed much better there in my opinion.
What wheel stand is that for your thrustmaster
0:36 wasn’t back to back. It was a season that happens during both 2020-21
1:34 2 championships in 3 seasons technically
The hype was real for people who were not realistic. He was older, his f2 champs came in a relatively easy field and Fe isn't F1. F1 is full of other drivers that have won at least 1 or all junior championships. Then other drivers that have won f1 championships and f1 races. It's the same as all sports, once you are in the top league everyone is either as good or better than you.
You said the quiet part too quietly 😂
Sergio is gone. I am a Checo fan but, they are looking for someone that is better in Quali so they can still win the championship if Mercedes, or literally anyone else, decide to get their shit together.
Everyone forgets the williams was suited for monza, he crashed out in qualifying and many drivers took grid penalties in the race as well as DNFS. His P9 wasnt thaaaaat impressive
make a video about what happened to gasly at redbull
Hold up!!!! Did you just say, De Vries was very good in F2? He won the title in his third year and among his competitors, there were drivers who stepped into F1 the very next year. And, in Monza he got points in a Williams who's specialty was straight line speed. Latifi would've gotten points had his brakes not failed in Q1.
Devries was a victim of racism against Tsunoda. Everyone can't accept Yuki is decent. So anyone jumping in fresh who can't beat Yuki with 2yrs in the team is considered terrible. And behold, Daniel couldn't do any better. Everyone is talking about Lawson now but Nyck got close to Yuki for the moment.
I think that Nyck should have been given at least one whole season to prove himself. I don't understand why F1 was so brutal to him when tons of other drivers have made way worse mistakes but they've still been given time to get comfortable and work out the problems. He was an investment that could have paid off but they backed out too fast. A driver with his experience could have been great but was never given enough time.
Welcome to the Red Bull team
compared to other rookies, nyck was much older and if AT would give him time to develop (at least 3+ years), his career would end real quick wiht not much success anyways. he also had a lot of experience and was expected to the leader of AT
Atleast Redbull/Alphatauri give NdV a chance and compared it to the hypocrite Mercedes who always boost about NdV ( and Mick now) but never give them a chance or seat. Its NdV fault for not delivering it in Alphatauri.
@@mochachino56 If Nyck would have waited for a few months he would have been given the Williams seat, they didn't give Mick because he is still training
I feel like if Nyck was in Willams this year and Lawson driving for the AT, everyone would be much happier.
I believe he would adapt much better in the Willams and the team would have much less of Sargent nonsense ( I am sorry but Logan’s performance recently is unacceptable).
as bad as Sargeant is
In an alternate universe, Nyck de Vries and Alex Albon could have been teammates at Williams, and both could have scored points or even finished on the podium.
I like De Vries, but sadly he wasn't good enough. He was slow and surprisingly bad in wheel-to-wheel action (did he manage to overtake anyone?), so he never got anywhere near the points, unlike Tsunoda. Lawson's performances indicate that AlphaTauri was right to drop him. I still don't understand why De Vries performed so badly when he was so strong at Monza last year. It was a Williams circuit of course, but as Albon finished 7th this year in a more competitive car, this suggests that result was close to the car's potential. So, what happened?
Oh and don't forget. During the race in Monaco, he even asked his pit crew over the radio on how to change his tyre setting to the wet one. Lmao. You're supposed to know stuff like this if you're in an f1 car.
helmut marko is a crazy old man, change my mind
Atleast Redbull/Alphatauri gives NdV a chance and compared it to the hypocrite Mercedes who always boost about NdV ( and Mick now) but never give them a chance or seat. Its NdV fault for not delivering it in Alphatauri.
nick shouldnt be in F1 at all , he should go to endurance racing and stay there , he is not good enough for F1
I guess AT wanted a senior experienced driver since GAS was gone but they failed to realise that experience in formula-e doesn't translate to experience in formula1
The problem in my opinion was that because De Vries had so much racing experience in other classes, he was under a lot of pressure. Which in itself is normal, but due to the fairly normal start to the season, he just didn't had time to really prove himself. Because every result behind Tsunoda was just super bad according to the media (while Tsunoda was in his 3th season), and that created more pressure. Nyck just couldn't prove himself in his own way, which is constructive and keeps getting better through out the races. And in my opinion I think it is a strange choice to replace him mid season, why just let him drive a whole season? He deserved that. But also why with someone like Ricciardo who already has so much experience and has already had a chance to show himself in F1. And after 2022 Ricciardo wasn't a strong driver. Then put in Lawson who is young and with a lot of talent. That is more than fair in my eyes.
next video do Sargent
I mean he definitely didn't do enough to KEEP his seat. Not with RB already having DannyRic as their 3rd and chomping at the bit to jump back into an F1 car...obviously he'd prefer the mainline RB but the AT would be better than nothing. De Vries made way more mistakes than it seems just in this video, not even close to all of his mistakes resulted in crashes. He just wasn't good. He wasn't Nikita Mazepin or GOATifi levels of horrendous, but hes not what RB wanted and expected when they put him in that seat. If he had only had one major crash and otherwise stayed closer to Yuki, he'd still have a seat. Daniel has managed the car just fine, when he's not bring hit by other drivers, and hasn't had any of the same issues so it's not like the car itself is responsible for De Vries earning his nickname Debris...otherwise Yuki would also have been struggling to stay out of the wall and off other cars. When RB saw how Nyck couldn't keep pace with Yuki, or even really all that CLOSE to Yuki, he was done. They gave him enough time to show them SOMETHING and the only race where he performed even adequately, in RB's eyes, was Monaco and they took the context of 1) its Monaco (which really is just a test of patience and qualifying) and 2) it was raining so the pace of the entire field was extremely slowed down compared to a dry race. And really Monaco was the only race where Nyck performed as expected. So contextually they had enough information to know that they were sure he wasn't what they wanted in that seat. Particularly since next years AT is going to be much closer to the mainline RB in terms of performance. If Nyck couldn't handle the current AT, he would likely be even worse with a car much quicker and with much higher expectations. So all in all, dropping him made perfect sense. Particularly since they had an ultra popular driver waiting to fill in in the form of Daniel. Nyck was only bringing negative attention, Yuki and Daniel bring positive attention. It's an easy decision. Nyck may be better off filling in as a 3rd driver if he can for the rest of the season for other teams, but he clearly needs more time in an F1 car before being signed to a full time seat....so they can perform an in depth analysis of him when he's all alone on the track to see if he has what it takes. Most F2 drivers never make it to F1 anyway. And since RB demand excellence he wasn't ever going to sticking around there
Helmut didnt want to put devries in alpha seat, it was not his decision, and he kept the pressure on him the dud collapsed from helmut's pressure and gave helmut a reason to fire him, he was good in the media and bad in the car
De Vries is not ready for f1, before you attack me, let me explain why.
De Vries while being a 3x world champion, 2x in F2 and 1x in Fe, he isn’t ready for the struggle and the absolute cut throat racing of F1, that is not to discredit his skills in any way…
Lets look at his qualifying and race finishes, not good… was he given too little time? No, I personally don’t think so, has shown pour results, been basically under the radar even had some incidents, compared to other rookies, piastri is doing incredibly, sargeant, in my eyes, should also be out of contention and possibly devries should be given his spot.
He started making errors when he was fighting for position, not something an F1 driver should do normally, “normally” because when a definitive fight is happening and its an important fight right on the line, every driver could make a mistake.) while i want to defend De Vries, all of his fights were regular F1 fights and he shouldn’t be making errors.
Was red bull hard on their decision? Probably not, De Vries showed talent in F2 and was expected to preform, this has nothing to do with the team by any means, since F2 is all about DRIVER SKILL, which he just hasn’t shown in F1, even if F1 is about the car, skill is still involved.
In my opinion he isn’t ready, not in pace and not in the mentality that is needed, and neither is Sergeant.
He is not cut throat enough, he isn’t able to handle the cut throat mentality.
He isnt able to handle the pressure and he isn’t able to handle the pace.
And let’s be perfectly honest, look at that graf, and tell le honestly that a team like red bull would want a driver like that currently.
If you tell yourself that he’s preforming decent for a rookie then please look at a mirror, because no he isn’t
He’s a goddamn 2x world champion in F2 which requires skill, you’d imagine that he’d at least carry that over.
The reason why, is because he’s too hung up on the F2 championships, he still imagines the other cars as equal, that is why he goes for insane moves and doesn’t keep up, he imagines that he’ll eventually catch up due to skill, yet he won’t.
He made mistakes and he didn’t preform up to red bulls standards, he didn’t preform up to his own skill, he made mistakes that were unprofessional compared to his skill.
Would he ever be capable of racing F1, yes I absolutely believe he is capable of that, just not right now and i think red bull made the right decision, he just isn’t mature enough yet and sadly enough he isn’t good enough yet, even if his season continued, he wouldn’t have done good, i know i make a lot of people angry by this, but learn the truth.
NO HE WOULD NOT HAVE DONE BETTER HAD HE CONTINUED HIS SEASON.
and that ends the conversation.
I believe his time in F1 came too late. Still remember back in 2010 when we already heard news of this guy. Never had a chance in McLaren, to be in the young development plan being 24 is not promising at all. Then he left to Mercedes, won Formula E and even had a chance to prove himself with that 9th position in Monza, with a Williams. Remarkable. Mercedes should have loaned him to Williams instead of Sargeant, and AT should have promoted Lawson or even Iwaza. And in this scenario, I think De Vries would have had more time to settle in. Marko is a toxic character. I don't like that guy at all. Hope he gets sacked soon, what a terrible figure to have in a team. He only puts pressure and gives 0 fcks about the driver's mental health. We forget sometimes how hard it is to earn a spot in F1.
Whatever Red Bull management and Marko in particular are rookies killer without any patience, in my opinion....
The most important problem is that de vries is 28, and at 28 you dont have much space for improvement, and they still took him as a rookie cuz he was a champion in other categori, but the we saw he was nowhere near yuki, that isnt verstappen, so yeah of course 10races to adapt is not a lot but when you are suppose to be an experimented driver you cant spend that much time off, so i would say he was very bad for he should be, like i think he is not far from sargeant, but sargeant is 5years younger, was nowhere in f2 so no one was expecting anything and most of all is only here cuz he is american, so in a team when you are looking for new good drivers, and when you have 3drivers for a seat, and some other like lawson, right here, hadjar not so far, you cant lose time with a season off,
He only won FE once, not two seasons.
He was just living off his debut from Williams at Monza but found out how hard F1 is unless your Lewis Hamilton
Off-topic but which eye do you think Helmut Marko actually uses to see?
The bigger or the smaller one?
RB is looking for a replacement for Perez and De Vries wasnt it.
To bad Mick didnt got his Chance with Franz Tost
Rambert guys he said in F1 not other motorsportd
LOL When did Nick win his 2nd Formula E championship? Its not that hard to google it before making a video...
i just think back to gasly at redbull, when he didnt push enough for them, now Nyck seemed to be pushing and from that comes a crash or some, what redbull wanted to see from gasly, but Nayck pushes and gets thrown out anyway
everyone talking about nyck but then theres stroll 😑
It's all relative. DeVries wasn't that bad for a rookie, but was bad for a 28 year old rookie who is there to be a reliable #2 for Verstappen in the future. Stroll isn't bad, but he is bad for someone with his experience. Perez isn't bad, but he is bad for someone in that second RB seat.
Woah so you really just said "fuck the colorblind" with those cfolor choices huh? Red/Green is already problematic but the ones you chose are worse lol
What are you talking about?
You got some issues man
Its 2 championships in 2 different categories not 3
F1 not suited for him, he should stay in Fe
Pretty bad. At least Sargeant has been close to Alex in one or two races. I dont't think Nyck was ever really close to Tsunoda.
Did he deserve to lose his seat? Maybe
Did he deserve to be replaced for Ricciardo? Hell f*cking NO
"That's hoe Red Bull works," sir Lewis Hamilton
Then he's replacement Mr Riccardo did jack squat😂😂😂😂😂
I already cannot take this vid seriously considering you start of with saying he shined in f2 (won the least competitive f2/gp2 season possibly ever) and that he won formula e back to back (formula e runs through the next year so he only actually has 1 title)
It also took him 3 season, 2017 he finished 7th and 2018 he finished 4th, in 2019 Latifi was second in the championship and Ghiotto third, tells you the calibre of that field
As bad as Tsunoda in 2021. Difference is, Tsunoda was backed by Honda. Although in my opinion he could have become fired the same way
FUN FACT: Nyck De Vries drove for Williams before joining Alpha Tauri. The reason why he didn't performed well in this season's F1 according to me is because he got the worse car and that affected his skills.
Dude just look at the whiteboard………..if the car was so incredible bad then yuki should also be all the way in the backfield
Then why Tsunoda is outside top 7 or at least 10 in the drivers championship if you think the car isn't that bad on the track? Yeah, the season isn't ended but still.
People tend to forget u can get points in Williams with a decent strategy. Its a low downforce car, nothing impressive to drive in Monza.
He the wrong move tbh.
Marko.....
De vries is known for that he needs alot of time to adjust, after that he performs good
Why do you suggest to swap Sergio for Vries?
Sergio ended second place this year.
This makes no sense if it is not a racial reason for saying that.
I hope he comes back to F1 and can prove the people wrong. I think he still has potential but in a different team.
Too late, he dropped the ball a little too hard, and he's by no means young in the current standard of F1, whilst there're other more proven drivers around when the demand is there. He's not definitely coming back, at least as a driver.
@@apophisstr6719He will with Porsche
@@goodputin4324Porsche? What are you on about? They're not even a thing in F1 😂
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Might be an unpopular opinion, but: De Vries is extremely underrated. After Monza '22, everyone was quick to label him as one of the next superstars of F1 (I did as well), but the problem is, that race was a very specific case to take conclusions from, as he was driving a terrible car, that performed well in straights, in a track that's full of straights. Had Albon raced that weekend, he would certainly score points. But then De Vries unfortunately gets put under the wing os Red Bull, and we know they tend to not be patient with their rookie drivers.
He was not bad, the car was poor and some one eyed old man wanted something else, thats all
he was pretty bad. this video kinda sugar coated his horrible stint in f1
I have a feeling that Red Bull doesn't know how to manage people.
No they don't 😂😂
They are the best team out there, they run the team almost perfectly, they lose less people than any other team, they have the same team principal since the beginning, they have the best F1 engineer for 15 years and he doesn't want to leave them, 6 of 20 current drivers and 2 multiple world champions are from their junior program but You're right, you know what is important? Your feeling.
@@sam-nariman6236 When I say that I have a feeling, I mean just that. I was in no way, shape, or form implying that I'm right.
Liam Lawson showed us how bad DeVris was in F1. He is a brilliant driver but he couldn't handle the F1 pressure.
Very very bad!
Comparing Yuki to Nyck in this season is perhaps controversial. Comparing Nyck's performance in his first (partial) season to that of Yuki's first season could potentially be more insightful. Let's not forget, Yuki had a very rocky start to his F1 career, and still isn't displaying the qualities necessary to drive for Red Bull alongside the likes of Max Verstappen.
Stop putting goofy sounds over Formula E, no one finds it funny.
please put in more research mate, you immediately embarassing yourself around 10 times in the first 90 seconds💀
he won 2 championship, not 3.
"in 2 different series" sure, one being a feeder series.
"shined in both" hardly. he was mediocore in both if you watched it not just checked wikipedia. his formula e title winning season was BY FAR the worst out of anyone, overall a weak performance, and he was always the weaker merc driver. and in f2... well he only won in his third season, which was one of the worst if not THE worst f2/gp2 grid ever, with his title rival being latifi. all at the age of 24 which is very late in f2.
his monza performance was more down to luck and the cars abilities than anything else. capitilized off penalties and williams' straight line speed. sure he did good not to crumble and bottle it, but thats about it. was it an f1 seat worthy performance? absolutely not.
"the hype was real" well... not really. maybe for casual fans, but anyone more invested in motorsports knew he was never f1 level and never will be.
he was in mclaren and mercedes junior academy/reserve driver for over 10 years. he was never given a chance by them because they realized hes not that level.
sacking him asap was the good decision. damage limitation. he deserved 0 races in f1, he got 10+1.
feeder series is still a championship
you cant win a championship being mediocre
he joined a backmarker team with no experience and he destroyed his teammate in the first race, scoring points, definetly an f1 seat worthy performance
i dont know if you live under a rock cause a lot of people were talking about him even before the race
he said "willing" to give him a chance
@@WiseFella many drivers win championships with mediocore performances.
he destroyed latifi. not ana chievement. and 100% NOT f1 seat worthy performance. literally only casual motorsport fans think it was.
yes, there was talk, but he was never gonna get it, mainly because he never earned one, never deserved one.
giving him a seat was a mistake and every motorsport fan who watched nvd's career knew he was gonna flop. its that simple.
yeah this guy is a joke