THE SQUATTER RETURNS AND ARGUES HE HAS BEEN LOCKED OUT | EP 3
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- Unfortunately we have squatters at our property. The police have been here to investigate and informed us that during the time of their visit, all squatters were out, so our builders quickly went to the property to secure it by screwing all the doors and windows down, making it impossibe to get back in. The squatter then returns in the afternoon and calls us complaining he has been locked out, and we find out from the police that we could be committing a criminal offence if we throw the squatters belongings out..
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Lia, call Joel and get Keegan's Rugby team to be at the house when the squatter picks up his stuff..
Hahhaha
LOL!! :)
Awesome idea!!!!
He 'll be happy tooi!
Some beefy boys may be insurance against violence.
What a lunatic. You guys were so calm talking to him, I would not have been as composed. Bravo on how you've handled this so far. So suspenseful! What a learning experience, not just for you, but for anyone that is thinking of buying a commercial property and watching this unfold.
Happy to chat to anyone who is buying commercial about the lessons
That phone call with the squatter was WILD! 😲😲
It really was. The wildest Tuesday I've had in a while
This is the craziest story! That guy is living in an alternate universe thinking he was just doing you a favor. Can't wait to hear the next installment
He really is on another planet this guy
Wow! What a stunning development. I can't get over how bizarre this all is!
Truly has been!
OMG, you 2 are amazing. 😂
I do apologise for securing OUR property. 🤣
i was laughing too: funny
This is unbelievable - can’t believe he actually thinks he is doing you a favour, very scary and no help from the police ! You guys take care 🥰🥰🥰
Thanks Valerie. Yes, we were shocked when he said he thought he was "doing us a favour" too. Crazy times
No, he doesn’t actually believe that he is helping. He is a professional criminal that knows how to twist the loopholes in the law. 🤦♀️
The police should be waiting for him when he comes to get his belongings. Then arrest him for the criminal charges of stealing your electric, pipes etc.
I agree 100%
This is weird af. Can't believe he apologised for the inconvenience caused! Like.. what??
That part threw me off centre too
British apologizing…..lol
@@judykeown Hiya Judy, we apologize to lamppost's when we walk into them
Bravo Lia for staying informed while being so on top of the situation and being so calm and straight forward ! IMPRESSIVE! All the best to you and AK with what sounds like a professional thief/squatter!
Thanks so much, we now call her DCI Hatzakis after this crime drama unfolded
He told on himself so many times and tried to talk circles around you and failed miserably.
Right!! Couldn't have put it better
May I say, what a BEAUTIFUL COUPLE you are😊
Why thanks Lori, you're too kind!
Sorry you are going through this, but this is so good. It’s like watching one of the British crime shows we love to watch here in the States. I love it when Ach said he was going to call you DCI. Ha, ha!
I did love being DCI Hatzakis! Thanks for watching, Therese
What a crazy situation! There needs to be some laws changed.😮
Maybe we should get a petition going 🤔
There needs to be a law against this.
There has been a law since 1 September 2012 that clearly says that it is a criminal offence, but the police won't take action. Crazy right! that's UK.
Let’s get a petition going
I enjoyed watching all your three episodes and found myself laughing as much as I would during a Hollywood action movies
Just unbelievable!! He reminds me of a former boyfriend who was a master manipulator (unfortunately). Michael picked the wrong people to mess with, and I can't wait to hear the next round of your unfortunate battle with him! Much love from Jean xo
Thanks Auntie Jean. I wonder if he knows your former boyfriend? 🤔
Living in Canada..this would NEVER happen! I cannot for the life of me, understand the logic within this scenario. It's a riveting glimpse into the professional squatter world! Well done!! I'm praying you have a good outcome!! 🥰
I had no idea that squatter's had any rights. Which makes it just wrong. Love Canada!
They shouldn't, its crazy what is happening, but here in the U.S. It's a huge problem too!
Maybe we should invest in Canadá?
Completely false, squatting is a problem in Canada too. Try googling
@@vzwodb17 yes.. you're right! Interesting...things have changed so much. I didn't realize they have so many legal rights 😳
This squatter series is crazy compelling LOL. Can’t wait for the next one!
Thanks both, it's been a rollercoaster for sure!
Thanks for the update, guys! Wish you all the best in this saga 💖💖
Thanks Bea, we appreciate it
🤯🤯 That is insane. Totally invested in this story and hope you upload the next one quickly! 😂 I think in the US our squatters rights laws are similar to the UK, except our residential laws are like your commercial property laws. It does vary from state to state though. It's completely insane. You guys seem so composed, I would have been irate!
The laws are similar. Right now we have a property in Iowa that we have some very nice neighbors going in and out of everyday to make it appear someone is there. They are very helpful, also, they probably aren't keen on having squatters next to them either. We even have the alternating lights that go on and off at different times. It's crazy how difficult to remove squatters...but pretty easy to get evicted...so strange.
Apparently it’s a big issue in the US
Amazing! Well done Lia!
You guys are great story tellers. I've just discovered your channel today and I'm enjoying the content very much. Keep up the good work. I really wish you success.
Thank you very much for taking the time to watch and comment! Welcome :)
Been waiting anxiously for this one!
We've had a few messages saying the same!
In the USA one cannot put people’s things out either. I was a general property manager for a realty company ( not a very good one,as I learned on the job btw ) and I ended up quitting, when firearms were drawn.
Good for you.
I wait for this!!!
Can't wait for part three😊
You’ve just watched part 3! Part 4 is currently in the edit 🤓
You two are handling this situation with grace. My head would have exploded by now.
It’s scary that the police won’t assist with transferring the belongings. I’m glad you were able to secure the place. It’s sad for Michael but crazy to think he thinks he’s actually doing you a favour!
It really was crazy, more on this in the next episode too. Thanks, Amanda
No he doesn’t believe that. It’s all part of his scam!
Do NOT feel bad for Michael, he's nothing more than a scam artist. A bold thief without guilt.
I have LOVED this series and how you are rolling it out. So sorry you had to deal with it of course but we are so invested in the outcome!
Stay tuned Kim
What a situation!! I'm glad you can now joke about it.
Yeah, same Carme! Thanks for watching
You are handling yourselves so well in this stressful, aggravating and expensive situation. You guys always rise to the situation on your videos, and set a good example. 👍
Thanks Nancy, we appreciate you watching 👍
Police need to see if squatters are looking up permit applications to see which are vulnerable.
Hi from Las Vegas! Loved this story. It was like a good crime drama on tv! 😃
Thanks Rene - Fox News covered it too! Crazy.
This is just crazy! As is your squatter. Proven by the fact that he thinks he's justified to be there.
He’s a character
OMG😮😮This squatter needs a good beat down. This is just so unbelievable and extremely frustrating 😤. You both are so calm about this.God bless you both. What a trifling jerk. The entitlement is shocking. How dear he. I just can't believe the audacity of some people.#Unbelievable.
I don’t condone a beat down lol but I appreciate your support Jo Anne
Just wow!!!
Right!
This is such a good series and credit to you both for showing the journey. The whole situation is shocking. I hope it all works out for you . Shame on the police for not helping. ... its unbelievable , yet if he makes a complaint on handover of his stuff, then more trouble. Record the whole thing and protect yourselves. Wishing you both all the luck. Kali tihi. Skeftoume sas. Krima !!! We work so hard and these skanks are able to do what they want for free to the detriment of hard working people. Grrrrrrr
You two are such a good lot. I've unfortunately got a moocher/fraudster in my distant family and they know all the laws and the loopholes to be able to live their whole lives moving from one unsuspecting victim to the next. "Michael" is just like him. Always a sob story to tell (complete lies), fast-talking, knows just what to say and do to get away with his crimes and offenses and only leaves when absolutely forced to, while trying to make his victim feel bad for the situation he caused himself. I know you don't want to anger him (he could escalate if you did) and you want to do everything by the book, but you're being loads more kind than I could be. The only truthful words out of "Michael's" mouth was when he confessed to being a "proper criminal". Please don't fall for the rest of his poppycock. Hugs & best wishes.
Thanks Thomas, I'm sorry to hear about that. This was certainly our first encounter of somebody like 'Michael' who knows the laws and their rights etc. We believed his story to be honest, but there was no way he was going to be able to stay inside the property. Thanks for watching and supporting 🙂
Oh my goodness... What a nightmare. I'm a nervous wreck just listening to this. You handled the phone call so well and glad you had it on camera so you could go back to relisten and for proof. Lia, awesome job on your reporting and detective skills with the police.
Hang in there Mark 😂
Wow, I’m amazed at the lack of rights/protections you all have as owners of the property. My fingers are crossed this all ends quickly and without much more trouble or delays to you.
Thanks Inga
Greetings from NYC! Just had a thought Lia, this story would make a great script. Sorry you had to go through this. Funny thing is the squatter thinks he's a smart criminal...lol. Congratulations on your upcoming nuptials. Remember, it's your day. So relax and have the time of your lives. Love is everything. ❤ Big hug, Lily
Lillian, I am inclined to agree! and thank you for the well wishes, yes there's so much celebration coming, better times are ahead!
Bless your hearts, this is a horrible experience for anyone. Living on the other side of the pond, as land/property owners, we are forced to deal with similar situations and it is, quite frankly a F**king nightmare. My heart really goes out to you both. Thankfully here where I live (southeast) if I catch the squatters in time, I can get them removed with a small fee paid to civil court, however, if it's been over 90 days, which it rarely is, it can be a headache to get them removed properly. I am hoping and praying that you will have success in getting the person gone with little expense and work can begin and get you on your way to seeing your returns. Best wishes! I will be following your story closely. xx
Thanks, i have more grey hairs since when we started 😂
This is hilarious Michael from Grimsby 😂😂 love this content guys!
🙌🙌
This is what is wrong with class warfare. People think that “the rich” or organizations owe something to the less fortunate. This man is nothing, but a criminal and he needs to be punished and then get a job. If he is crazy, he needs to be in a home.
He’s just doing what he legally can unfortunately.
That’s the way it is in the U.S.A. now. The criminals have all the rights. 😢
You're killing me!!! I need more!! What happens?
Editing the fourth and final episode this week, will be released on Sunday!
LOL
He's a 'Proper Criminal' doing things the right way.
OMG.
The oxymoron and lunacy of this poor bloke leaves me speechless.
GOD BLESS you two for keeping your Composure, whilst this deluded man feels entitled to steal from you.
Sending lots of PEACE and BLESSINGS moving forward, hope it's smooth sailing from here on out.
x
Absolutely speechless too!!
What a nightmare. So sorry you both had to go through this 😮
But you sure handle it extremely calmly hope this Ended ok 🤔
Take care 🥰
Honestly it's mad when you think about it Gwyneth.
This situation just makes me so angry. How someone feels this is okay is just unbelievable. And he actually lives down the road? And the police at this point are useless
Shocking right
Dang what a drama. Can’t wait until next week for the full story. See ya then.
Thanks Donnie catch you then
OMG, this is crazy. I’m sorry that this happened to you guys but I can’t wait to see the next episode🙈
This is so hard to believe - the audacity! Both of you were so self-controlled by keeping your cool while he was babbling on. Hopefully I'll get to hear the rest of the story next Sunday in person!
Stay tuned Beth.
Wow that's just crazy. I don't think that would ever happen like that in the US. I'm just baffled. I just can't even believe he has any right to get his things back. This whole thing makes no sense, it's mental. So sorry you guys are having to deal with that.
Thanks Julie, it's been a real eye opener for us, a huge learning for sure! we are equally as baffled
It is a complete joke, and you are not alone in this matter. I am in the same situation. My newly refurbished property in East London, which was advertised for letting, was taken over by the squatters (non-English speaking gypsy). I nearly had a heart attack since my life savings were invested in that property. When questioned, the people living there showed a fake tenancy agreement signed by an unknown person as landlord. I know this is all set up. They even claimed to have paid 3400 pounds as rent and an advance but provided no evidence for that. Long story short, they refused to leave my property, and the police didn't even show up when called and simply said it was a civil matter. I even went to the police station to prove that since September 2012, it has been a criminal offence to squat in a residential building. The police officer over the counter simply looked at the legislation and said there is nothing he can do and that I will have to go to the county court.
I am so frustrated by the police response since the squatters broke into my house, changed the locks, and used all the utilities for which I am paying the bills. Not to mention that everything in that house is brand new and refurbished. With no option, I took legal action, which is costing me thousands of pounds. I literally just got an interim possession order from the court, which in theory orders them to leave within 24 hours, but we know they won't leave. I would have to go to court again to get a warrant of eviction for bailiffs to evict them. All in all, it's a stress that I've never experienced in my life and is costing me a fortune in this cost-of-living crisis. The law must change, and the police must be educated to act and protect landlords instead of simply saying it is a civil case. I hope all ends well with you two. All the best.
Why can't you have the water and electricity shut off? Here in the states it's the first thing you do.
@@bkm2797 I tried that, but utility providers refused to do that.
Elias, i'm so so sorry to hear how bad it is. By law they have to leave 24 hours after being served the IPO or they will go to prison. Often these squatters know what they are doing and will just up and leave to the next place. All the best. Please keep us updated.
@@PropertyCouple By law, they are supposed to leave within 24 hours or they will go to prison. Only if the police, who were meant to take them to prison, turn up to take them. 🙂
That is awful, please keep us updated on how you get on. the police are useless. That is a burglary and an aggravated trespass. Lodge a complaint with the police complaints commission that they are neglecting their duty to investigate criminal offences.
Well done I don’t think I would have been so calm . No need for a conversation with him while he try’s to justify his actions and make his problems yours . Also with the police ( 16.36 mins ) they would be required to attend if you advise them that you have reason to believe a breach of the peace will occur even if they would rather not get involved.
You should've deposited their stuff at the police station and told him to pick it up there! Lol!
We did consider it.
The squatter is a pro. He knows the law in terms of squatters rights and owners rights. He beat up his dad? Admits to being a "proper" criminal. Wow, unbelievable. Need to start a new channel starring "DCI Lia Hatzakis", in the world of the criminal mind. You guys are handling this brilliantly."
Nightmare! I'm so sorry!
Thanks Kellie
This is mad! Michael is a classic scam artist and trying to make you feel bad for him.
True or false it worked, we did feel for the guy, very sad situation. Will explain more in next episode!
What about taking all the items to a storage place, paying 1 month, and then giving the info and keys for the storage unit to the squatters
You are more patient than I would be. I would give him a bill for the utilities he has used.
Not sure he’d pay them to be honest Pam.
So infuriating when the criminals have more rights than owners! And Michael is trying to convince you he’s don’t nothing wrong!!! Michael you BROKE INTO
SOMEONES HOME! 😡
Waiting for the next part!
Great job staying calm guys! ~Cara 😊
Thanks Cara - stay tuned. Very frustrating. I have more grey hairs than I did to start, AK
@@PropertyCouple 😩😩😩😩!
I sent a suggestion to This Morning ITV about this video. It would be good for people to know this sort of thing happens. I know I have never heard of such a thing and honestly it’s ridiculous that people can get away with it. They need to change the laws on that.
Probably the worst nightmare as a landlord. As a property investor myself, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to put your money in a low cost index fund and just let it there accumulate interest then having to deal with nightmare tenants. I know it's rare the situation of having to deal with these sort of tenants, but I would rather not take the chance anymore.
I would see how to get it passed that it's illegal for them to squat on this type of property. Obviously laws are changed. They madenit illegal to squat on a residential property, so see what it takes to get this changed. Keep your evidence and a spreadsheet of the cost to you for the number of days he was there. Not sure how taxes work there, but you may at least be able to write it off as a loss. Put his stuff in boxes and hand it to him, while all on video. Don't let him enter the property to retrieve it.
Dude is a criminal, stay the course.I still believe you guys should write a novel…real antics are much more interesting that some Grisham fantasy. Can’t believe how calm you’ve been, well done. Looking forward to the next chapter.
Thanks Jack.
Jesus wept! There should be a police intermediary to help legally finish this dispute,
His literally selling the pipes , it is a clear cut criminal case that the Rozers should actually help with ,even if its a grey zone on the civil
They don’t want to know.
Oh Michael, how bizarre
Very!
Hiya A.K and Lia, what a crazy society we live in, these squatters are the scum of the Earth, I cant believe this is in January, it dosen't matter, the front of some people, this is Choppy in Whitehaven, Cumbria, England
Hi Choppy! Yup .. at least we had your awesome recipes to see us through the drama!!
In America it’s called BREAKING AND ENTERING! Ita criminal offence and it’s a time in jail. Total lunacy!
I asume some states will allow guns too which could make for an interesting encounter
Gaaa! What a nightmare! Hope this never happens again to you guys. 😳
Thanks Chris, us too!
OMG doesn't it feel like your the criminal or at least the criminal has all the rights SMH here in the states we would have to go to the Magistrate Courts -ughh all the headaches. Breathing a little better with all the suspense and anxiety with listening of all your going thru. LOL Can't wait to see what happens next.......
Stay tuned Kris, and thanks for watching.
you rent what america has called a POD. its a container and you set it outside on the front lawm. fill it with squatters stuff. its a secure pod, safe from weather and thef since it is locked. its out of your property...
Interesting, thanks.
Again, hanging here. LOL
Still hanging in here 😂🤷🏻♀️
the system is so broken....
Agreed.
Hire a security guard to be there to make sure nothing happens.
On bigger projects that’s usually more of a normal thing to do.
Michael the patron saint of Squatting?😅
I mean can you believe that Putz!
Now that's staying!!
it is incomprehensible that this is legal
Apparently so
I feel like the police are in on it, and some former employees too.
I don’t think they are
Wow, I can't believe the police won't at least be present as you give the guy back his stuff. Police in the US certainly would at least the PD Iworked for. I'm risking a very American comment but what the heck do you pay taxes for? You guys have patience crossing fingers it goes well!
The laws have let us down
So the law protects the criminal. Great!!! You should be able to throw their stuff out . If it gets stolen or damaged tough. They are the ones that broke the law. 😡🤬
Come back tonight at 4pm uk time to see what he does to Lia!
Lia and Ach, I don't know how you both stayed so calm on the phone with the guy. It would've been a different story with me, but I think here in the US, we do things a little differently, especially here in the Southeast. 😆 The guy apparently has some mental issues, and did he say he beat up his dad? Crazy!
Correct that is what he said. We thought it best to be polite on the phone because we didn't want to add fuel to the fire, if that makes sense! Thanks for watching, Karen!
Just curious if it is legal to record telephone conversations (as you did with the police and the squatter) without the other person's knowledge and consent. Maybe they did know and consented. In eleven US states it is illegal, including Massachusetts where I live. Hope this all works out for you guys, what a terrible predicament to be in.
Thanks for your support Jan. Generally speaking, it's not illegal to record conversations without consent. But the squatter has my name and number if he'd like to take me to court for publishing on here. Once he's moved out my house.
If it's a two party requirement for consent, consent has been given by you and AK.
Wishing you all the best - "proper" eviction of the proper criminal and justice for what he has stolen from you.
proper criminal 😂
“Im a proper criminal you can ask the police”
Hey guys, me again. After watching this video, I have been getting video recommendations on similar topics. One that is going viral in the U.S. is where a homeowner couldn't get the police to do anything about a squatter in his home. So HE DECIDED TO SQUAT IN HIS OWN HOME, moving in along with the squatter and bringing some of his "hunting" gear. Perfectly legal. See Steve Lehto's channel id# watch?v=SPHk_6i_2aU. AK can move in with a few friends (here's where Keegan's Rugby team will come in handy). Your squatter has no recourse to call the police on you because HE can't provide proof of occupancy, but of course you can. And to make matters worse for the squatter, you have the right to be as obnoxious as you want while being there. So he wont stick around long. Not sure the legal rules are the same in the UK, but you should be able to occupy your own property.
Wow!! what an amazing idea, I am also being presented with a lot of squatting stories now on my feed - it's unbelievable how much this happens!
These squatters are really bonkers and no respect for one's legal property. You guys are too calm in the matter.
You guys are so kind in England!!! If this happened in New Jersey I would be sitting in the dark with my shotgun ready to blow off the head of the first invasive species that walked through My Door!!!!
I told Ach we had to do this whole thing by the book! Your way sounds easier though.. 😂
@@PropertyCouple And he had the balls to say he did everything by the book??? What alternative universe are we living in??? If you need me to come out there with my baseball bat I'll be happy to take care of this for you since the police doesn't care!!!
@@paul_domici Hiya Poly, the police do care, they cant do anything about the situation
@@paulguise698 What if you get him in the house then break every bone in his body with a bat would the police care?
He is mental,only way to handle him.
I think this should be your legal cause crusade - the laws need to change - squatting is criminal not civil.
Think we could get traction?
@@PropertyCouple There are plenty of people who have dealt with this and all a politician needs is a popular cause to get behind it.
How deluded do you have to be to actually phone you on the number and make out you were in the wrong for not getting a court order. There were some belters in that phone call, the police know him well, the CAB told him it was ok. The police should arrest him. Amazing what you can get away with in this country.
Interesting character right…..
At times it seems that you're almost sorry for "Michael". I think he's a professional criminal. He knows way too much about the ins and outs of the law to be just a casual down on his luck squatter.
There is a human element to it for sure Robert. As much as he’s causing us stress and pain.
Aaaaack!!!!
You British are way too polite. 😆😆
You think? Lol
I actually can't believe the laws on this 🤯 it must feel SO weird to have BOUGHT a property to then be told by someone 'oh no I just live here now' and you have little to no rights to get your own fucking propert back? My mind is blown 😂
Like someones just got in your car and the police are like well its his until he gets out 🤷🏼♀️ like a very serious version of when your seat would be stolen in school and all you'd get is 'is your name on it?' 😂
It’s nuts isn’t it tori. Thanks for watching 😃
Also, don’t forget to check out episode 4!
@@PropertyCouple I have and really amazing dealing with it all guys 😄 I love your content!
The squatter knows all the laws, so he can squat in as many homes as possible. He obviously has a bit of a mental illness, to rationalize he is in the right.
AK?
Achillea. Also known as Ach or AK
@@PropertyCouple That's how you spell Ach
Stop feeling sorry for criminals. He continued to state he has done nothing wrong….when in fact he knew he had.. If you keep rewarding this behavior with a free home or belongings…he will just keep doing this to others.
I don’t feel sorry for him. But on a human level I can appreciate why he’s doing it. There’s a difference - AK
The part I hate is how he knows all his rights and how he's using them against you. However, I have the feeling that he has mental issues. Maybe a case for the psychiatric clinic?
The "story" he told you of the situation he is in, is most likely a lie also. Don't have any empathy for him. He is a con artist at the very least ! I can't believe the laws there regarding squatters !
You take no prisoners Sherri
@@PropertyCouplehahahaha, my husband and I have been scammed before....you live, you learn.