Great video, I just ordered my Mountain rifle today. Your tips in this video helped me very much. It was difficult to find a company that had this rifle in stock due to supply chain shortages.
This will be my next rifle,i chose the investarms gemmer .54 with 1/60 twist for my montana hunting...keep the great videos coming!! Wish the traditions had the .54 option...
I have been shooting side lock ml since 1975. You do an excellent tutorial video as good as I have seen anywhere. Keep up the good work. Today I subscribed to your channel.
I just ordered the Traditions Mountain Rifle, except for it is a flintlock. It's my first Black powder gun. I am looking forward to learning from you and others. Much appreciate the videos.
I just started getting into traditional style muzzleloaders last year. Ive since bought 6 Hawken style rifles. A American made CVA Mountain Rifle 50, A CVA Hawken Supreme 54cal, a TC Renegade 54 cal, a TC Hawken 50 & a TC Renegade 50, & a Pedersoli Traditional Hawken Target 50cal. I also bought a Peitta 1858 Remington Army 44 cap and ball revolver. My next rifle is going to be a Gemmer Hawken 54cal or Lymen Great Plains Rifle 54cal.
I love the way it sounds when firing with the crack and then the hanging echo, reminds me of the Apache ambush from 3:10 to Yuma. They must have recorded actual black powder firearms going off for the movie audio.
I have two of them both work great. I have found with one of them I use a dry patch on the powder then a lubed patch with the ball and it shoots alot more consistent.
I bought a Traditions Springfield Hawken used for $50.00, slight surface rust on the barrel but unfired and perfect bore .. It has a single stage trigger but there is an internal trigger adjustment, that thing is a tack driver with prb or bullet ..!
When i shoot my black powder rifle i just shoot round ball only i it feel good doing it the way they did it in the old days my rifle is a 45 the caliber is great for deer hog and so much more i recommend black power rifles and handguns they are so much fun god bless you all out there great video
*Magnum caps might fit tighter and be made of slightly thicker metal. Hickory, Derlin, or Custom Made Brass rod would be might top three choices. Brass is extremely durable and heavier. Derlin Flexes without breaking and is claimed to be non abrasive.*
Traditions nipples kinda suck. Cheap to replace though. I don't have any of their flint locks, but I've heard the springs are sub par. All their side cap locks are actually pretty decent and durable. These aren't high end custom made works of art, but for newbies and cheapskates, (I'm the latter,) they punch above their price. Fun and functional. Nice vid, sir.
I don't want powder in the drum causes a longer ignition time. Spark should flash through not cook its way through. Just a thought from someone who has been there keep powder in the barrel not the drum. Number 11 work perfect when the flash channel is clean
I knew a guy who wanted to shake the powder into the drum I shot one of his guns once and the damned nipple blew right out of it so I would never do that ... I didn't know he was afraid to shoot it himself
Kinda new to percussion ... would like to use Hornady round balls... what would you recommend .490 or .495 and do I need a patch and if so what patch... will be using goex ff or fff... again what would you recommend ... be hunting whitetail... thanks again new to this percussion ... I also have a brand new tradition deer hunter
I have seen a factory rod break and go through the shooters hand , replace the rod ,and the nipple before you even fire a shot . If you need to bed it try making your own bedding compound with ground up charcoal and pine resin (pitch) melted together . It sets hard like you wouldn't believe.
You would be doing yourself a big favor by investing in a couple of fiberglass black or brown colored ramrods. Then you won't ever have to worry about breaking a ramrod. Just a little tip from someone who has been shooting muzzleloaders for about 50 years.
I love my Mountain Rifle I was wondering if you have shot any Hornandy Great Plains 385 grains bullets out of your rifle and if you thought they were accurate please let me know thank you
Should be fine, Jose. Depending on the terrain, a Hawkins or a "Deerhunter" has a little shorter barrel for easy handling, but the longer rifles are plenty good and might give you just a little more muzzle velocity.
I know very little about hunting or black powder firearms, but I‘ve heard that hogs can be dangerous. Might want to keep a sidearm that can take one down at close range if you‘re going this way.
@@buckskinsblackpowder7106 oh okay im trying to find a flintlock mountain rifle in canada just very difficult and i looked on traditions site only percussion cap version shows up.
@@staplebluejo3740 I don't know what pawn shops are like up in Canada but I find smoke poles all over in pawn shops down here in Virginia. Typically priced really well too.
I have not handled one recently, but from what I see online, Lymans quality has greatly dropped off. They are sending out stocks with 3/32" wood hanging over all the metal parts, cracked stocks inside the lock inletting. Last year of course they recalled their entire line up due to faulty breech plugs breaking clean in half. If buying, I would suggest inspecting it in person or buying from a company that allows direct returns.
i have a trade rifle in 54 cal and a flintlock i got a 8 pointer and a 10 pointer at 100 yrds a excellent rifle shoots round ball or conical i got my deer s with a 348 grain power belt bullet and 100 gr of 3f power at 0 degrees out i would get one
No, but you could if you needed to, it's just not likely to be needed. The poly stocks are cheap looking but they're actually pretty well made and durable. I've been beating my deerhunter up for 7 years (my first and still one of my favorite knock-around muzzleloaders,) and it doesn't care. Just keeps holding it all together. Wood stocks from traditions are better looking and they're not bad for a budget gun, but even on the preassembled rifles, they benefit from a little extra lovin' to be "just right."
Could you find a worse backstop for shooting? Bullets zinging the hell all over the place off those rocks. I've shoot thousands of conical bullets out of my Thompson Center Renegades on a single wedge keyed barrel and I have NEVER had a trigger or tang come loose. If your wedge keys do not hold the barrel, bedding the tang and trigger isn't going to do a darn thing for the back force.
Bedding the tang and trigger is to have a rock solid Bedding. Over time, the soft beechwood tends to compress from loosen/retightening from recoil. Bedding stops it in its tracks. Sandstone, crumples easily, plus here's a nice little cave back there full of sand which captures my lead.
My build explains it better. Mostly helpful on Beech stocks or softer woods. Tc walnut stocks will benefit greatly as they tend to Crack near the tang and run across the lock screw. bs-bp.forumotion.com/t354-building-the-traditions-st-louis-hawken-kit-gun
You really don't need to bang it the way you are showing. Pour the powder down, bang the butt on the ground a couple of times to settle it then the ramming will make sure the powder gets down there!!
NICE TO SEE A GUY WHO DOSE NOT BOUNCE THE RAMROD
@GWW-sb3hq yeah wear out the rifling faster you can thumb over the end and ram it donw and seat it just fine get good
Wow! That's a hell of a group!
Colin and Conor are full of shit, and quite likely bots.
Absolutely!! First rate!!
Excellent video! I ordered mine earlier today, and after seeing this showcase I can't wait to get my hands on it! SUBSCRIBED.
Great video, I just ordered my Mountain rifle today. Your tips in this video helped me very much. It was difficult to find a company that had this rifle in stock due to supply chain shortages.
This will be my next rifle,i chose the investarms gemmer .54 with 1/60 twist for my montana hunting...keep the great videos coming!! Wish the traditions had the .54 option...
I have been shooting side lock ml since 1975. You do an excellent tutorial video as good as I have seen anywhere. Keep up the good work. Today I subscribed to your channel.
Howdy from Corpus Christi Texas. Thank you for this Outstanding video 👍 👍
Good vid, great shooting.
I have a Traditions Flintlock Kentucky rifle in its way, can't wait to get it.
I just ordered the Traditions Mountain Rifle, except for it is a flintlock. It's my first Black powder gun. I am looking forward to learning from you and others. Much appreciate the videos.
Very impressive shooting at 50 yards. Excellent presentation of the rifle.
Nice shooting, nice gun great video mate top stuff 👍🍻
Loved your video. Thanks
I just started getting into traditional style muzzleloaders last year. Ive since bought 6 Hawken style rifles. A American made CVA Mountain Rifle 50, A CVA Hawken Supreme 54cal, a TC Renegade 54 cal, a TC Hawken 50 & a TC Renegade 50, & a Pedersoli Traditional Hawken Target 50cal. I also bought a Peitta 1858 Remington Army 44 cap and ball revolver. My next rifle is going to be a Gemmer Hawken 54cal or Lymen Great Plains Rifle 54cal.
I love the way it sounds when firing with the crack and then the hanging echo, reminds me of the Apache ambush from 3:10 to Yuma. They must have recorded actual black powder firearms going off for the movie audio.
Great costume!
Nice!
Nice group!
I have two of them both work great. I have found with one of them I use a dry patch on the powder then a lubed patch with the ball and it shoots alot more consistent.
I bought a Traditions Springfield Hawken used for $50.00, slight surface rust on the barrel but unfired and perfect bore .. It has a single stage trigger but there is an internal trigger adjustment, that thing is a tack driver with prb or bullet ..!
Great accuracy gander
Please do a video on how to properly use the set trigger.
My Hawkin rifle that was bought in the 1980`s has a fiberglass ramrod.
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You should also " Mark " your ramrod for " Loaded " & " Unloaded "
Sight safety feature when checking if muzzleloader is loaded
Thanks for the video most informative - Which rifle do you like the best Flint or Percussion?
@5:23 I saw an animal moving around the bushes.
When i shoot my black powder rifle i just shoot round ball only i it feel good doing it the way they did it in the old days my rifle is a 45 the caliber is great for deer hog and so much more i recommend black power rifles and handguns they are so much fun god bless you all out there great video
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*Magnum caps might fit tighter and be made of slightly thicker metal. Hickory, Derlin, or Custom Made Brass rod would be might top three choices. Brass is extremely durable and heavier. Derlin Flexes without breaking and is claimed to be non abrasive.*
Where did you get your match coat?
I have the deluxe kit on the way. Can't wait to shoot.
I wish they would provide that high quality wood with their kits.
Try some 7 flange musket caps . They go off every time . Almost as hot as shotgun primers. Buy a stainless musket cap .
Traditions nipples kinda suck. Cheap to replace though. I don't have any of their flint locks, but I've heard the springs are sub par. All their side cap locks are actually pretty decent and durable. These aren't high end custom made works of art, but for newbies and cheapskates, (I'm the latter,) they punch above their price. Fun and functional. Nice vid, sir.
I don't want powder in the drum causes a longer ignition time. Spark should flash through not cook its way through. Just a thought from someone who has been there keep powder in the barrel not the drum. Number 11 work perfect when the flash channel is clean
No i am sorry but that is completely incorrect and does not make sense whatsoever.
I knew a guy who wanted to shake the powder into the drum I shot one of his guns once and the damned nipple blew right out of it so I would never do that ... I didn't know he was afraid to shoot it himself
Kinda new to percussion ... would like to use Hornady round balls... what would you recommend .490 or .495 and do I need a patch and if so what patch... will be using goex ff or fff... again what would you recommend ... be hunting whitetail... thanks again new to this percussion ... I also have a brand new tradition deer hunter
.490 with an .018" patch. 70gr 3fg, 80gr 2fg.
I have seen a factory rod break and go through the shooters hand , replace the rod ,and the nipple before you even fire a shot . If you need to bed it try making your own bedding compound with ground up charcoal and pine resin (pitch) melted together . It sets hard like you wouldn't believe.
I would not use pine resin. A quality bedding epoxy, especially in weld is excellent and low cost.
@@buckskinsblackpowder7106 What about brownells acuraglass for bedding this gun ?
@@nightwave3782 that works fine too.
You would be doing yourself a big favor by investing in a couple of fiberglass black or brown colored ramrods. Then you won't ever have to worry about breaking a ramrod. Just a little tip from someone who has been shooting muzzleloaders for about 50 years.
Just picked up a Traditions Hawken percussion .50 and Mountain percussion .50 today. Can you remove the browning on the barrel and blue it instead?
It's ceracoat. I'd talk to a gunsmith. If anything, draw filing it off would probably be the best bet or sand blasting
I love my Mountain Rifle I was wondering if you have shot any Hornandy Great Plains 385 grains bullets out of your rifle and if you thought they were accurate please let me know thank you
Yes sir, extremely accurate! Very hard to find is a brand called buffalo bullets in 385gr.
Back in day you were good shot or went hungry
Can you use pointed bullets with these? Can you use powder cylinders or does it need to be loose?
Loose powder only. Conicals and round balls. Sabots under 180gr shoot very well. The twist will not stabilize heavier sabots.
I want to go hog hunting here in California, I've been looking into the diy Kentucky rifle by traditions. Do you think it's a good idea?
Should be fine, Jose. Depending on the terrain, a Hawkins or a "Deerhunter" has a little shorter barrel for easy handling, but the longer rifles are plenty good and might give you just a little more muzzle velocity.
I know very little about hunting or black powder firearms, but I‘ve heard that hogs can be dangerous. Might want to keep a sidearm that can take one down at close range if you‘re going this way.
Does that drum have the cone shape to it on the inside or just a parallel sided hole?
Cone
How well does the cerekote hold up? Im on the fence between this and the gemmer
It held up very well! Not bullet proof but neither is bluing.
does traditions still make the flintlock version of this riffle been looking i cant find it.
Yes, they do but they have had a stock supplier issue where they are having a hard time getting enough wood in for this larger stock profile.
@@buckskinsblackpowder7106 oh okay im trying to find a flintlock mountain rifle in canada just very difficult and i looked on traditions site only percussion cap version shows up.
@@staplebluejo3740 I don't know what pawn shops are like up in Canada but I find smoke poles all over in pawn shops down here in Virginia. Typically priced really well too.
I have the traditions pa pellet flintlock came as a redi pak pretty nice for the price
What do you think of the Lyman Trade Rifle?
I have not handled one recently, but from what I see online, Lymans quality has greatly dropped off. They are sending out stocks with 3/32" wood hanging over all the metal parts, cracked stocks inside the lock inletting. Last year of course they recalled their entire line up due to faulty breech plugs breaking clean in half. If buying, I would suggest inspecting it in person or buying from a company that allows direct returns.
@@buckskinsblackpowder7106 Thanks, what would your recomended rifle be for a beginner to muzzleloading to deer hunt with?
Willfromsc the Traditions Deerhunter
@@russellpickett2689 deer hunter or go a big step up for a little more with the hawken woodsman.
i have a trade rifle in 54 cal and a flintlock i got a 8 pointer and a 10 pointer at 100 yrds a excellent rifle shoots round ball or conical i got my deer s with a 348 grain power belt bullet and 100 gr of 3f power at 0 degrees out i would get one
Where did you get the green coat?
Traded for it many years ago. You can pick up Capotes on Ebay, all kinds of colors for a fair price.
How does this gun do with 370 grain maxi-balls ?
They shoot them very well. The 385gr hornady great plains bullets however, shoot awesome.
Do you have to bed with the synthetic stock?
No, but you could if you needed to, it's just not likely to be needed. The poly stocks are cheap looking but they're actually pretty well made and durable. I've been beating my deerhunter up for 7 years (my first and still one of my favorite knock-around muzzleloaders,) and it doesn't care. Just keeps holding it all together. Wood stocks from traditions are better looking and they're not bad for a budget gun, but even on the preassembled rifles, they benefit from a little extra lovin' to be "just right."
Thang s
It is now about a $600 rifle.
They can be quite serviceable, nothing wrong with them at all.
Where can I find a pretty gun like that?
Try www.deercreekproducts.net
at 516 i see something walking in the background
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Could you find a worse backstop for shooting? Bullets zinging the hell all over the place off those rocks. I've shoot thousands of conical bullets out of my Thompson Center Renegades on a single wedge keyed barrel and I have NEVER had a trigger or tang come loose. If your wedge keys do not hold the barrel, bedding the tang and trigger isn't going to do a darn thing for the back force.
Bedding the tang and trigger is to have a rock solid Bedding. Over time, the soft beechwood tends to compress from loosen/retightening from recoil. Bedding stops it in its tracks. Sandstone, crumples easily, plus here's a nice little cave back there full of sand which captures my lead.
My build explains it better. Mostly helpful on Beech stocks or softer woods. Tc walnut stocks will benefit greatly as they tend to Crack near the tang and run across the lock screw. bs-bp.forumotion.com/t354-building-the-traditions-st-louis-hawken-kit-gun
Pellets aren't / shouldn't be used Older style muzzleloaders
you can use pyrodex pellets with this gun correct?
Negative
You need to slap it more
I am too cheap for a left-handed model is at 100% necessary with cap gun
You have to have voted for Hillary!
No trump lost rights due to liberal policys so these are what i can own
Plese just use a long loading tunnel... But nice video
Did you mean funnel?? and if so, why?
No reason to use a long tube funnel. Some folks say its it put the charge directly into the breech plug. Its complete overkill and not needed.
You want to use a funnel for small calibers such as .32. It makes it easier to load.
You really don't need to bang it the way you are showing. Pour the powder down, bang the butt on the ground a couple of times to settle it then the ramming will make sure the powder gets down there!!
How in the hell is the powder not going to go to the bottom when you ram the ball in
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If you have to do all that to get the gun to go off that gun is not made right!!
It's understanding how the breech plug is. This ensures proper powder flow into the drum. Thus is a patent breech set up.
Seriously traditions should pay you,4000% better than traditions video!!!
Load to tight
No such thing unless you can't push it down. And from the accuracy you see, it's a perfect load.