Did you overpay for your hockey skates ? How to buy the right skate for you.
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- Did you overpay for your hockey skates ? How to buy the right skate for you.
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Hi Chris. In answer to your question, I’m 66 years old and play 2 to 3 times a week. Last season the pandemic shut down our arenas and this season I’m struggling with an injury so only playing once a week. I’m skating on the CCM Jetspeed 480. I chose them carefully. Not playing competitive hockey any longer I didn’t see the need to spend money on the top end skates. In almost every regard they are similar but not a one piece boot. Performance is not a priority. Fit and comfort are. They are in my estimation a very good skate. The only upgrade was to fit them with Step Steel runners and swap the insoles for Superfeet. In my estimation they were an excellent choice for the money. I would however not go with anything in the lower range if you are not a beginner. The materials will not stand up to much use and that results in purchasing a new pair a lot sooner. Anything more than the 480 for me would have been money wasted on money I can spend on a high end stick. That performance difference I can enjoy.
Spent a good month or two trying on every skate I could find after realizing my low end Bauer Supremes from many seasons ago didn’t fit me well. Settled on the CCM FT475 despite being prepared to go for FT485. They honestly just fit better. While I’ve skated for a long time, I’m wrapping up my first season back into the game in a few weeks (been 20 years since I played as a kid). The sentiment here is very spot on, don’t overspend because you think you need the best gear. Apply that to every piece of your hockey equipment and you’ll have better gear for your context and your wallet will be thicker 😆
Hi Chris,In Canada CCM “exclusive” models are carried by Sports Excellence. My son wears the CCM Jetspeed EXTRA SE size 9-1/2 which is
a 485 boot with several upgrades (step steel runners, FT4 pro liner, FT4 tongue, among others) priced about $150 cdn less than FT4 model.
I bought the FT4s purely for fit. I am a tall, finely boned 52 year old woman returning to the sport after 13 years. These skates are far beyond my level of play, but the tapered fit makes them the first skate that I have ever found that fit my long skinny feet. (My shoe size is 10 and the 6.5s fit perfectly without slop in the toebox.) The other ladies I skate with are petite and wear high-end junior skates. I find that I have much quicker feet and am much less fatigued with zero lacebite. I did not have to change inserts. I like the fact that I can change to a thicker tongue if need be as the skate ages. I would have preferred the Ribcors, however, the tapered fit was unavailable at the same price point at the time I purchased my FT4s. I feel that the extra money is worth it for injury prevention at my age. :)
What skates did you have before ft4?
@@depesak1908 Hello. I came from some old Eastons that I bought probably 15 years ago. I honestly spent more money on inserts over the years than the skates originally cost at around $300. I can't say enough about my FT4's. I don't care for the red stripe, but I'm getting used to it. The boot is definately too stiff for me, but I don't ever think about my feet anymore. The skates are very well made.
I brought my son the FT4’s. He is a 12 yo AAA player who skates 5 to 6 times per week between practices and games. He was coming out of the Ribcor 90K. He slipped on both skates and loved the FT4 right away. He is above average in size for his age so I wanted a little stiffer boot but wasn’t spending the $1K for the FT4 Pro. So far so good on the choice
I haven't bought skates yet but man I'm so greatful for your videos they are so informative and helpful please keep doing what you are doing. Wonderful content instant like and sub
Hi Chris, great video. I've been playing hockey for just over 5 years now. I currently have the Bauer Supreme S-29 skate. They're amazing, at least for me. I had the Bauer Supreme S-160s for three years but they stopped being able to support my weak right ankle. As it turns out, I was in the wrong size skate. I was in a size 6 skate but I had my feet scanned and it turns out I really should have been in a 5.5. skate. My skating has greatly improved since moving to the new size and I won't need new skates for another 2-3 years at best. Also moving half a size down, means I don't have to spend as much on skates!
Many thanks for this video ! Please continue to review mid-range equipements !! 🙏🙏
I’ve used all top of the line skates from Bauer, CCM and True in the last couple years. I play 3 times a week, shinny and from what I can tell is that most people that have the top end skates usually don’t know how to use them. Your average hockey player in Toronto Canada wears mid to low level stuff. Most people who have top end skates and know how to use them, get them from their team for free. For me the mid level is the best bang for your buck. I think when the price difference is minimal it’s better to get the better product when you’re already spending hundreds of dollars. Btw I use True custom for comfort reasons. The best skates are the ones that fit you best. I love them and even after using the Ccm as4 pros, ft4 pros, hyperlites and ultrasonic I never had anything come closer to the fit of true customs. If you’re playing a lot I highly recommend them.
really helpful, thank you!
Using the CCM Jetspeed FT485, play 1x game a week and practice 2x a week. They are super comfortable, have never tried a higher spec so I'm not sure what I could be missing out on the higher end s far as blades go... but I love these, and they have held up well so far!
Super wychwycone najważniejsze cechy poszczególnych modeli i jak zykle, doskonale zaprezentowane.
Dawno temu pod wpływem twoich filmów kupiłem WHITE K. Jestem amatorem i dobrze mi służą do dzisiaj. Ale czas na zmiany. Myślałem nad nowymi CCM Ribcor 90K. Może pominąłem, ale chyba jeszcze o nich nie mówiłeś. A wydaje mi sie, że to świetna propozycja ze średniej półki.
Great Video! Thanks for talking some sense into me! 😅🙏
Great video. Love the climate comparison. We live in nelson b.c canada. Are two indoor rinks are at a high elevation in the selkirk mountains. We are able to play on are outdoor rink for about two and a half months. Switching to a fish bowl will benefit my son by allowing him to view more of the ice giving quicker reaction time.thanks keep pumping out the videos
This is exactly the review I was looking for. Found a pair of FT4s on clearance. 40% off. I jumped on them, but then started to have some buyer’s remorse because all the reviews I searched after I purchased showed the FT4 pros. I’m 6 feet, 190lbs; average at best, and play 1-2 times per week. You made me feel better about my choice. Thanks!
Glad we could help
I'd love to see a video on the Warrior Alpha LX stick. I've heard a ton of good things about it.
I've played hockey for 30 plus years, I watch all of your product videos. The main thing I've learned with hockey skates is, number one do I feel comfortable in it, My preference is a skate that fits and feels about as good as my sneakers do, and not like I put on a ski boot. The top end specs maybe too stiff for my preference. However the main reason why I don't buy the top spec is the runners. I love Blade Tech. So I don't want to have to pay for the upgraded steel on the top spec when I know I'm just going to order them from Blade Tech anyways. Once you have the fit and stiffness you like, then the biggest factor of feel on the ice and how you perform is the steal quality, the profile, and the sharpening hone, Blade Tech does all this plus allows me to customize the look anyway I want. Of course like you Chris, I know looks don't matter but let's face it Blade Tech does make them very cool looking.
Hey Chris, I purchased Easton Mako's about 9 or 10 years ago. They were top spec, cost me about $900 CAD. I was biased to the appearance as my favorite color is orange so they were already esthetically pleasing. After trying them on, I found them to be very comfy. At the time I played 2-3 games per week and skate recreationally on top of that. I wanted a skate that would last a long time so I figured the higher spec would have better quality materials to reach that goal. I was correct. The plastic on the runner finally cracked and a piece chipped off. So now I have been looking at new skates specifically the Jetspeed line since Easton doesn't make skates anymore. Of course, the top spec skates now are even more expensive so I'm faced with the same decision as before.
I play 3-4 times a week year round. Last summer I went for the FT4. Never felt absolutely at ease. I recently find a pair of used Ultra Sonic for a fair price. It is insane how I immediately felt at ease and more stable on the ice with those. I would have never paid full price for top tier, but now that I know how big a difference it did for me, I will consider it if I ever have to change.
I've been going through the same problem. I started skating again after 15 years and have gone through 3 pair of new skates just to end up in my old pair that just feel right. The overall shape seems so different from how they used to be.
@@steve581581 That's the problem I've had and I'm in the same position. Skates don't seem to fit the same way I remember them as a teenager and it was really difficult to find something remotely comfortable. I got the FT485's which felt fine when fitting and after baking but once I got on the ice with them I've hated them.
@@Panaxxxx I'm going to try some lower end boots when my old ones finally wear out but even those are pretty stiff. I like that the low ones come with a nice tongue now though. I've heard the ribcores are really comfortable but have only seen them online.
I am having a big problem getting use to stiffer skates after my really old Flexible Bauer 2000 gave out. I tried stiff skates and couldn't do a thing. Now I am trying Bauer LXS which is the cheapest hockey skates by Bauer as it's plenty flexible and than move up. I sold both by stiff skates the Bauer 5000 and Bauer Supreme Elite.
I have a pair of Bauer Vapor 3.7's , it went with a budget range and the requirement for a comfortable fitting with exchangeable blades. The store helped me with measurements and options.
Im using a pair of 2005 Rebook 4K skates I bought brand new in 2005, wore twice, and put away and just started playing again after 22 years and being on the ice in 2005. I do enjoy watching these videos though to see what has changed over the years since I bought these and the original Pumps when I played in High School.
Great video! Would love to see this type of comparison with Bauer supreme.
Great video, thanks! Could you do this with the Bauer Vapor family?
I went from rebok (think 2006) to ccm FT490's a few months ago. I was able the get a brand new pair. Night and day difference in the confidence they have given me on the ice. I play one a week and only started about 8 months ago at 44 yrs old. I love it. I was fitted at a local shop. Although the Vapor Hyperlites fit the best, I could not justify $1,200.00 US. I scored my skates for $299.00
Here's a curveball - I don't play hockey (and never have).
I do, however, skate freestyle 3-5 days a week. When I started in this discipline, got myself a pair of used Bauer Vapor X4.0's and enjoyed them for awhile. Like you said, as my skillset expanded, so did my need for a stiffer/more responsive skate.
That's when I picked up a set of Bauer Vapor 1X skates which I have to this day. The difference between them and the X4.0 is literally night and day.
Hey Chris, I went for ft4 pro custom, but not custom plus. I have crazy bone spurs on my heels from poorly fitting skates across my hockey career and huge ankle bones so after trying on pretty much every stock skate, they all felt terrible on my feet even with baking. I considered going for Trues as they provide the best fit for sure but they really don’t last as long as Bauer or CCM and they aren’t as stiff. So I ended up probably overspending on skates to get a great fit and a pair that will last. I expect I’ll keep these for about 15+ years so the total came out to like 100 bucks a year of ownership which is definitely more than you have to spend but for me that was acceptable and I’m happy I did it. My ft4 pros are the lightest, stiffest and most comfortable skates I’ve ever had and they do not irritate my feet in anyway regardless of what socks I wear or if my feet are wet. For context, I played in the OHL for 4 years and now am on the ice 3-7 times per week depending on time of year.
I got fitted for the Bauer Vapor 3x. I was going in there looking for the 2.7s at least, but chose the 3x because they fit a little bit better. I got them after skating a few times on an outdoor rink this past December on rentals. I thought it but be easier if I had my own and if I had sharp blades. I was right. Much easier to skate with decent skates and now I have them for when I want to skate at other rinks this summer and for when I hope to start beer league hockey next fall.
CCM 76K, I was a first time hockey player when buying these and heard that getting too high end of a skate for a beginner would be a negative because I couldn't utilize the stiff boot that high end skates have since I was new. Also the stiff boot when learning could be hard to learn skating skills like stopping and turning ect. I plan to buy one step down from top end on my next purchase since I've developed over a few years. I play twice a week.
Still rocking my Supreme One.9s. Bought them after I had ankle surgery and wanted much more ankle support than my Vapor X3.0 provided. Played much more in the past but im only playing once every week or two now. I had only been playing for a year when I got the Supremes and buying a skate that was one step below top tier was probably overkill for my skill level at the time, but I still absolutely love them 10 years later.
My skill level is average and I skate beer league 3 times per week (weigh 170lbs.). I had the FT4 skates and they were too stiff for my weight and skill level. You were correct in your analysis that too much skate can actually be hard to manage, which is what I experienced...too stiff and my feet were killing me. I sold them and ended up getting the prior year model FT480...the last of the CCM skates with an outsole. Added some Step Steel runners. 170 stiffness rating is plenty stiff and the out sole vs single boot fits my foot better.
10 years old in 1987, skated CCMs.
Best skates ever, that pair.
Great video, could you do the same comparison with the vapor line?
I started out 2 years ago and got myself a pair of FT460 (base model from 2019). I got comfortable in them and still have them to this day. I have upgraded the insoles as the originals were garbage (superfeet carbons) and put a set of polished Step Steel on. I now play anything from 2-4 times a week rec and drop ins where work allows. I have been contemplating a pair of customs as I can now afford them (nothing more nothing less) and figured they would last me years and years, but after seeing this, maybe I should re-think.
Great work as always (Y)
Oh and i'm sure those FT4 have the Step Steel on them - Wouldn't that class as a premium blade over the XS on the 475 and 485?
Great video could you do one on Bauer 3x and under
Given that clearance top end skates can sometimes be had for midrange price points, I feel like this route offers some of the best bang for the buck.
I tried on several different skates from low end to top end. Given I usually only skate twice a week (at most 4), I really wanted to keep the $220 FT490 I picked up on clearance since I liked the materials and the price. However, they didn't fit my feet well so I ended up going for a clearance pair of $500 AS1 instead. Wasn't thrilled about the price but they've been great. I was worried about the stiffness but I like the extra support.
Novice leaguer here….current skate Bauer supreme s29. Had them for a bit over 5 years now. Wear 8.5 wide. Fell in love with the Hyperlites and after a lot of back and forth I bit the bullet and went to Pure Hockey for a custom pair. Wanted a color change (went almost all blk/dark grey) but also my feet measured 8.25 so I was in between the 8 and 8.5 off the shelf model. After two months of waiting they finally came in. Went to pick up and get the baked. The right fit like a glove with the exception that they are new and stiff. The left I knew something was off immediately but was told to skate in them and that it would be ok. I told them before I took the skates. That they felt too narrow. It was hurting my pinky toe. After two skates and a good amount of discomfort I’m headed back to pure hockey today. I used a width reader to measure the skates and there is a 6 mm difference between the right to the left. Needed the fit 3 but it seems Bauer wanted to do one in fit 3 the other in a 2. Let’s see how they handle this situation as I’m not a happy camper after dropping $1,300 and waiting two months. As for why I went with the hyperlite skates ….yes it could be the social media but I was sold from the moment I saw them and felt it was the skate to carry me for the next 7 plus years (hopefully). I skate two to three times a week.
I will follow up with a conclusion to how this has been handled. Chris you can do an interview with me if you’d like :) we can zoom it or I’ll head to the UK or you head to NYC. 🤙🏻
I’m an older player and pretty much just 1-2 times a week at rat. Have been skating with CCM Pro Tacks from 2005, which were top of the line at the time, but they are about to disintegrate so I need to buy a new pair.The videos are super helpful and I think either the Ft-485 or maybe the Ft 4’s seem like the choice here. I really don’t want to spend a ton of time breaking them in.Thanks for the videos!
The Jetspeed FT4 skates video in terms of stiffness and player skating ability was very informative in helping the decision process in which FT4 skates matches the players skating ability and money pocket.
I just got back into roller hockey. I played when I was in middle school and high school. Hs, I played in an over 18+ rh league. I stopped playing after my senior year. I am now 40yo and I wanted to get back into playing again as a method of exercising. I had Mission skates when I played so I wanted to get Mission skates again so I ended up getting a pair of Mission Inhaler WM03’s from Purehockey. I chose Missions because I wanted what I was used. I also knew how Missions would feel and the sizes. I could’ve gotten WM02’s or WM01’s but I didn’t want to pay that much money. I think I got what I paid for. I now play 2 times a week and I had my skates baked and they fit real nice. I just wished they were a little lighter. I love the boot so I’ll be keeping these for a while. I want to eventually purchase upgraded chassis and have them installed on the same boot. I would like to keep the same boot because it is molded to my feet and comfy but I want upgraded chassis like Kryptonium ones because they are probably the most lightweight chassis.
I would love to see you do some videos with roller hockey skates and products. I am already subbed but I would definitely watch your future rh videos because that’s what I’m most interested in.
hi there!
i took the advice seriously to let my feet completely choose the skates: after beeing unhappy with the first skates, i went to a hockey-shop and tried a bunch of skates (up to mid-level/priced) in a kind of „blind-try-situation“ and i ended on my current skates, the most simple ccm tacks 9040. baked & perfect for my feet & play up to now.
i‘m a player for fun, during the season i‘m playing hockey approx 3x /week. 1x /week in a training for about 2.5 hrs. in total im on the ice for approx 15 hrs per week. already missing the ice now…
I went with the CCM 9380 Super Tacks. I went low end of the top shelf to have the stiffness and responsiveness.
I’m a ref, 5-12 games a weekend from Mite ADM (cross ice) up to “elite” USA Hockey Bantam.
That being said, by next season I am getting custom Super Tacks because I have a half size difference in my feet. Get unibody, at the magical age of using tech to over come general abuse of my body and injuries. Plus, my weight loss and supplements, I am actually needing new fit lol.
Totally agree with your assessment. I have a vapor x600 and recreational player around 70kg. Anything more would be too stiff and hinder my movement
I've had a pair of Bauer Vapors from the early 2000's that have held up, but I'll need a new pair soon. Can you break down the Bauer Vapor line? I like the lack of stiffness in my own skates, but have been curious about a new, slightly stiffer pair. I appreciate your take on going overly stiff. I've been skating for a long time, but I'm 40 and skating less aggressively. My love for my current skates has made me a Bauer guy. Thank you for all your gear breakdowns!
Just got my first skates, Bauer 3X. Playing once or twice a week. Played a tiny bit of roller hockey as a kid, but played an ice tourney with rental skates and borrowed gear. I decided to commit and get my own stuff for my first beer league season. Went with the Bauers because the store didn’t have another brand in my size, and went 3X over X3.7 because the Fit 1 felt better than the D straight out of the box.
I use Bauer Supreme Ignite Pro Plus, which is a hybrid between the 2S and 2S Pro. When I first got them, I definitely over tightened them and hard a hard time using them. After changing the way I tie them I got used to them. I'm currently on then 5-7 hours a week. I originally got them since I wanted something that would last a long time
I recently bought CCM FT475 skates to replace my 20 years old Graf skates (what a change). I didn't play hockey since a long time (when I was 14-15, I'm 51 today). They are a very good choice for me (1m75; 72 Kg, 1 hockey session per week) in terms of price and range. I mean, they are good enough for my skills level and I'm sure I wouldn't see the difference with a better pair of skates (FT4 or UltraTacks). I am today fully happy.
Hi
I’ve bought top tier for the last 14 years. My first set of elite skates I bought were the Bauer supreme total one. At the time I was on the ice about 4 times a week playing beers league and shinny with friends. I dig in hard with my skates and consider myself a fast skater. Noticed a significant difference from Easton s11. I’m average build about 170 lbs. my skates lasted me about 10 years then I changed to apx2. I like them a lot again on the ice about 3 times a week. I push a hard on my stride. Will probably go back to the supreme. Cross overs, straight line skating and backward transitions were uncomparable hence the price tag
I have the FT485 and they are great, I changed the foot bedding to a super feet and the skate feels amazing. Just wished the blade was a bit taller.
Can you do a best budget stick and skates series. Like a stick at or under 200 and skates 700 or under.
CCM AS3 Pro Supertacks. I play Adult or Beer League I'm on the ice 2 to 3 times a week and I play Hockey 4 to 5 times a week including roller. I had a pair of Supertacks monoframe 360s (one-piece boot) I had gotten a few years ago and was happy with. I saw the AS3 Pros had greatly reduced facia and non-performance parts compared to the AS1's, they had the new XS blade holder with Step Blacksteel runners and all the eyelets were brass instead of just the ones at the end. I replaced my old inline hockey skates by converting my Supertacks to roller with the Marsblade R1 chasis to translate my play to improvements on the ice. I am 6 feet 2 inches and weigh almost 200 pounds. I love the CCM one-piece boot and the heat molding, they are very comfortable and had been broken in by the end of my second skate.
AS3 Pros. I’m a bigger dude, switched to the Tacks from FT490s. The fit was better, and I noticed I was flexing the boot of the 490s from the torque I was putting on them. (Not from being an elite skater, just because I’m heavy 🤣). So the AS3 Pros have provided the support I need. I play 3 times per week in a casual, lower level league and they’ll be the skates I use for a while until I decide it’s time to try something new.
Currently using True TF9. Debated about going with the custom but after talking with a few places, since I don't have anything weird about my feet the TF9s worked fine. I'm a mid to lower end hockey player and a little over weight. Got the TF9s because I figured I woudd spend about that on any other brand of one to 2 tier off the top spec. Since I play 2-3 games a week and am just out practicing 1-2 days a week felt the Carbon fiber boot woudl hold up better over time over the Fiberglass of the TF7. Also changed out the steel for Step Black Steel ((and ordered both right as CCM bought Step)) for the extended edge life so I didnt' get nickle and dimed to deal on sharpenings with skating so much.
Hi! I'm on ice 2-3 times a week. Playing lowest national league. I use vapor x2.9 skates in fit 3 as they were the cheapest skates available for wide / high volume feet after Bauer droped nexus skates. I miss the reduced toe box from the more advanced skates, but on my level, it was an ok choice
Really interested in seeing you feature the True TF7/TF9. I know you previously mentioned True isn't interested in working with you but I'd like to see them compared.
CCM Super Tacks SE Classic size 8.5 - U14 AA GTHL (Toronto, Canada)
I'm playing once max twice a week recreational hockey, sometimes I add ice time with my little son improving his skating and puck control. Currently I own Bauer Vapor XXX skates, which I got used from my brother after my second hand Koho skates broke (oh I lowed those). So in past 20 years I've been using second hand skates. As my skates are now breaking I started to look for new skates. Unfortunately I have no idea what kind of skater I am - though I think about myself as fast and agile :-D . The problem is I can't test the skates on ice (can't return them after use), so I have to be very careful when buying my new skates. BTW great channel I love it.
Bauer Vapor x2.5
I don't play hockey (i'm not planning to in the future) but i just want to comment what i'm using.
I've discovered ice skating around 2 months ago and i found it really fun so i decided to buy my own pair of skates to learn better and avoid all sort of rental skates problem.
And i go 3-4 times a week usually.
I’m playing in B div mens league 1-2 times a week and the odd tournament and drop in here and there. I’ve used CCM Super Tacks AS-1’s (size 9.5D) over the past few years but they never quite fit right (some heal lock issues, a bit tight in the forefoot area) due to an improper fitting at my LHS.
I couldn’t hack the poor fit of the AS-1’s anymore so I just recently picked up some Bauer Supreme 3s Pros (size 8.5 Fit 3) and the difference is night and day. I considered purchasing the Bauer Supreme Ultra Sonic’s but after trying both the 3s Pros and the Ultra Sonics one after another, I couldn’t justify spending the extra money on the flagship pair when the fit and feel of the skates were so similar.
It may have been worth it to buy the Ultra Sonic’s if I were on the ice more and playing a higher level of hockey but for my application the second best in the Supreme line does just fine for me.
This fall 2021 I bought a pair of 2019 CCM Jetspeed FT490 from Hockey Monkey. I'm on the ice 6 times a week between coaching and playing. 6'2" and 215 still playing at a reasonable level for my age. The biggest difference for me with these from my old Nike Vapor skates was the cornering. I profile them and the power I can carve into the ice with is night and day difference to my old stuff.
See like you, I’m 6”2 and 207lbs. I’m not playing hockey. I’ m just getting back into skating with my kids, but I skated all my young life on hockey skates and I’m still pretty agile and fast for a recreational skater. Done I tiny bit of hockey training when I was younger. I have CCM powering 600’s and I feel they aren’t supporting me in the corners and when turning. Should I go for the Ribcor 86K or the Ribcor 88k? I need something that’s going to make me feel confident, as I still like a bit of a sprint, some 360’s, grape vines and tight turns.
Bauer Vapor X3.7 I absolutely love them similar design to the hyperlights
30 year old guy here with hella wide feet & high arches (weird combo, I know)
I dropped over $1100 USD on custom True skates almost 2 years ago, and they’re still holding up incredibly well.
I would recommend getting TRUE Customs ONLY IF you’re 100% certain you’re done growing, otherwise just stick with mid-level skates that fit your feet the best until you’re done growing 😉
Ps - bring back the Bauer Nexus line! The Nexus 1N 6 EE fit were the only retail skates that didn’t completely crush the sides of my feet!
I would say if your foot fits one of the standard molds, then this video is spot on.
I bought Super Tacks AS2 customs about 3 years ago and I will never buy a non-custom skate ever again. Yes $1200 for skates seems insane, but how often do you buy new ones? (Take care of them dry them out after every play). They are perfectly molded to every aspect of my foot with zero movement and no pain at all. Before these skates I had just come to accept the fact that my feet would always hurt playing hockey (which they have for 30 years of my life).
I played hockey for 15 years through school. Stopped playing once college started. Decided this year that I want to get back on the ice every now and then, so I got a more budget model. Bauer Vapor X3.7.
Went with APX a little while after the APX2 was released. My logic was to buy the best skate available from the year prior to save (a lot) of money. I'm only a beer leaguer now (twice a week sub-competitively), but the only reason I don't have the Hyperlights yet is that my current skates are such a good fit. But likely upgrading next year.
Started playing ice at 19. First skates were Nike V10s. I played for about 3 years in them then took close to a decade off as we had kids. When I decided to get back on the ice, I skated on them twice, my feet hurt and something wasn't right, so I knew I needed new skates. Turned out, the foot bed/base of the skate was cracked. Measured my foot and the consensus was to go with either the Super Tacks or Nexus. I knew I wanted something at least as good (price wise) as the old skates (that $300-400 range). Tried the Nexus 6000, 7000 and 8000. Wound up getting the 8000 on a deal. It was more than I wanted to spend, but I felt it would be worth it as the stiffer boot with my size would be more durable. So far I've been right as I've been using them for about 5-6 years now with no issues. For the record, I'm just a low level beer league player, but the extra comfort, support even for my level has helped.
I was in Bauer reactor 7000 for a few years. I went to True custom 2 piece goalie skates. I got mine at a deal but I’ve notice the difference in the fit and feel.
CCM U+ 08.
1 - 2 times a week on the ice. Have a bit of ancle trouble. But pretty happy with it.
I just bought the FT485 a few weeks ago and I'm hating them so far. The regular fit was too tight around my forefoot and the wide seems to be ever so slightly too loose now that I've skated on them a few times and I was getting really bad arch pain and lace bite which were things I didn't notice when I was fitting them in store.
Originally I wanted the Bauer Vapor 3X skates at the same price point but the Bauer 3D fit servers have been down for a few weeks and I was unable to scan my feet when I purchased so that's why I went with the CCM skates for the 90 day satisfaction guarantee. I'm going to try baking the FT485's again with the superfeet comfort insoles new widers laces and if the problems don't go away I'll likely be returning them by May.
Hey Chris
Big fan of the show have been a subscriber for a few years, I don’t so much play hockey but my son does and was wondering if you could touch on some points for kids and as they grow, my boy is 15 now and I cans start applying apt of what I see to him and how we fit to choose the best equipment for him. But would be nice to get some context for the younger audience.
Keep up the great work
I was going to go for the 2X as it had standard eyelets and looked the same as the 2x pro but wanted to wait and see the new ones and now I have the Hyperlites but had the 3x pro looked as nice I’d have probably gone for them
I have a base model bauer supreme because they were a good price and I didnt know what I was looking for when I bought them... I want to go to the shop again now to get fitted for a pair that fits my feet and my needs.
Currently using a pro stock pair of CCM Tacks AS1s with custom shot blockers applied to the boot, and Step Blacksteel. All together I paid around $300 US for the setup. I play 4-6 hours per week.
As someone that's been playing for years, I think the most expensive skates I've used were like 200$ bauer s150s. I felt like finally giving myself a bit of an upgrade so I recently just bought the new bauer m4 skates. I haven't used them yet but what should I be expecting going from bottom of the line skates vs something newer/better?
Chris, Thanks for this video. You really do a great job breaking things down for us and the line of skates you picked for this video, the current JetSpeed line from CCM, is a great example since these skates are very similar. Like you, I consider myself an average player, but on top of that, I've been playing for many, many years and have owned many pairs of skates. My two cents on this topic is that only paid professionals should be in the top-of-the-line skate. There is simply no reason (other than perhaps vanity or excess funds) for anyone other than a paid professional to have the top-of-the-line skates. Within a line of skates, JetSpeed for example, I think that there are a few reasons that a person picking a skate should lean toward the higher end of the product line - Player weight, strength, skill, and frequency of play to a lesser degree. Heavier, stronger, more skillful players will need and will see a difference with the extra stiffness the higher end skate provides. The marginally better quality is a bonus. Lighter, weaker, less skilled players can get by with skates positioned at the lower end of the line, but they may want to bump up one level if they anticipate getting better and playing frequently. The point is that the higher end skate is not going to make you a better player unless the skate you have now is worn out, doesn't fit right, or is too soft translate your skillful maneuvers to the ice. To me, the stiffness of the skate is key. Not stiff enough and you can't transmit your intended maneuvers to the ice. Too stiff and every slight imbalance will land you on your keester. I am a senior player, light, not that strong any more, and of average skill. I'm skating on 2021 RibCor Platinum (i.e. 78K RibCor skate) only because the 2021 FT485's I bought hurt my feet. At my age I have a few bones sticking out and a 'swim fin' right foot that baking wasn't able to eliminate from the FT485's. The RibCor provides the comfort I want albeit in in a heavier, bulkier boot. I was very particular about the skate I picked not being uncomfortable nor too stiff. I'm happy with my pick.
I hear ya...tried to find a pair of skates to replace my near top of line CCM Tacks from over 15 years ago. Thought Ribcors would be the way to go since they are supposed to be the most flexible, but they didn't fit my feet at all compared to the Jetspeed. Tried the Ft485s once, and they felt like skating in a boulder even after baking. Granted, I'm a lighter guy and used to softer skates from yesteryears, but I thought there was no way I would break those 485's in for years and would hate the process while doing it. So I just went down the line and got the Ft460 on sale for a great price as they were clearing out stock, and wow, what a difference that made. Felt so much more comfortable and control with them the first time out, and even though it's 5 from the top FT2 or 3 from the bottom Ft435 in the Jetspeed line for that year, it's still much stiffer than my old top of line skates, and I can skate 50% faster with less effort already.
Anyway, like you, just glad to find a pair of new skates that fits after all these years.
Hell yeah! Can you do the Bauer vapor line. I feel that they have major differences between each price point
I haven't purchased skates in probably 5 or 6 years but the past few pairs have been top spec Bauer Vapors. I play once a week and ref 2 to 3 nights a week. I went with top spec not because I'm good enough to need it but because of the frequency that I'm in my skates I didn't want them to break down prematurely. I'm 6'4" 238lbs. I'm not hard on my skates but I'm not a lightweight either. I'd love to see a comparison like this for the Bauer Supreme line of skates. I expect my next pair will be Supremes based on Bauer's description of the kind of player those skates are aimed at. I've worn Vapors because they fit me but with the new Fit system I can get Supremes that will fit me well also. I look forward to your comparison of the range of Bauer Supreme skates.
A Pure Hockey rep actually talked me down from Bauer X5 Pros to X4s. I told him I was looking for a mid to 2nd from the top tier skate in a wide fit and asked about the X5s. He told me the X4s were the better value, and I went for them. So far so good (just a couple of skates), and I saved $350. Now I just need to save up a little more to get a top of the line Bauer stick...not.
Been waiting for this thing!!! Love the content!
I chose the FT4 pro. I only play once a week but I also coach private lessons so I am on my skates 10-20 hours per week. For that reason I went with the top of the line to ensure I had longevity in the skate and wasn’t getting something that would break down in a year.
From watching similar skaters on a HS prep league where they play 1-2 times a week and practice 3 days. (Not to mention optional stick and pick fun times) You can see the difference of quality and longevity, of high priced skates vs lower. I see people destroying a pair of skates in a year, versus basic scuff and scrap damage. Also the protection provided in the material is huge. Taking a slapper to the ankle in lower end skates is not a good thing, but seems to be less noticable with higher end skate. Not one of our D men run anything less than the top 2 levels...from experience. As for fit, whether it is Bauer or CCM. Get the one you like. As stated by others, stiff boots may not be your "thing" ...so If you can give up protection for flexibility, that is your call to balance the needs
D man Skating 4 times a week playing Nihl south 1 uk. Using Bauer 2 x pro fit 2, got them super cheap on clearance that’s why I use them. Found them hard to get use to but stick with it and now there good, not as comfortable as my ccm ft1 previous used
Played Hockey 23 years ago in CCM SuperTacks 552 Pro Lite 3 (90s) & Easton Pro Lite with Carbon Frame in the last days (late 90s).
2 Months ago I decided to start Ice Skating again and bought myself a Bauer Vapor X3.7 which is a total different Story. It’s just stunning how development kicked hard in the Skate & Hockey Business. Great Videos man - keep up the good work. Cheers from Germany !
Hi Chris i had Bauer 1x pros and have just jumped to ccm 100k pros absolute love them, I play 3 times a week
Yesterday, I went to Pure Hockey and was about to purchase the FT4 but the worker told me based on my build and amount of play that I should get the FT485. So I ended up listening and getting it, this video couldn't be any more perfect on how he explained it and I was getting worried I made the wrong choice.
What's your build
@@rymurphy21 6 foot 185 and play 2 maybe 3 times a week
Graf 709s. First pair in high school and vowed I'd never wear another brand of skates. Absolutely love them. I recently purchased a pair new old stock Graf Ultra G65 skates. I have tried them maybe twice but still use my 709s for league play. I know Graf has been through the peaks and valleys as of late with bankruptcies and ownership changes, however, they still make that quality skate I know and love. #grafhockey
would you recommend CCM AS 500 or Bauer XLP as an entry skate? Which is more comfortable and better quality? Thanks.
I have the Bauer X800s and I love them
I play a couple of times a week, wear CCM AS1's nice stiff boot more than good enough for my level and don't cost top dollar, took an age to break in but are so precise I reckon the pain was worth it 100% I used to play in the 90's wearing Supreme customs or ultra tacks so most modern kit is unreal anyway! Love the channel and your e-skate stuff, top work.
Bauer Supreme from the 90s were what I wore, I had the lower end Supreme 2000 and it was one of the best ever bought by me.
You guys should do the new Bauer supreme line with the Mach as the top spec
I have the Bauer Vapor 1x LE from 2016, I am on the ice 2 times a week
Hello !
I used to play ice hockey as a teenager, but time has passed and my body has changed. Today I'm 31 years old, and I'm overweight (about 150 kg). I'm looking to get back into sports, and ice skating is a great motivator.
Unfortunately, when I went to the ice rink and rented skates, the skates were so bad that the support for my ankle and calf was non-existent with my weight. I simply could not walk without breaking my ankle.
Would you have a model to recommend that would hold my ankle properly?
Thank you very much!
I play 4.5 hours a week..I've been playing for 36 of my 38 years, I weigh 190 lbs 6ft tall. I just play for fun these day's. I was looking at getting the CCM tacks as-v size 7.5 wide width skate's. ..
I currently have an older pair of CCM jetspeeds that I do find aren't stiff enough for me anymore.
I played Hockey from the age of 8 to 19, so its been almost a decade since I've played and 5 years since I've really been on the ice (consistently).
I recently purchased some Bauer XL-P Skates as I couldn't find my old skates (until just recently) so I didn't want to go super expensive. My Old skates are CCM Externo E8's.
The weird thing is, I'm a size 11 shoe but was recommended to get size 10 when buying the XL-P's, and my CCM's are size 9, but for some weird reason my old CCM's fit me much better than the new skates (maybe because I broke them in over the years of playing Hockey?).
I'm looking to start playing some recreational Hockey this year.
I use true pro customs, this was due to my 6/7 day activity on the ice and the overall comfort i get from the boot which seems like its molded to my foot.
I use the ft2. Usually i wanted to take the model below it, but at that time, i dont know why, the ft2 were cheaper. So i took them, never was dissappointed with them
I used to play years back and wore micron 10/90s are there any skates around these days that are similar? Thanks
Thanks for the video. I've been lusting after the Super Tack AS3 for some time now partially because of the one construction boot but I see the Jet Speed line is all one piece and I could save a few bucks going for the FT 485 or even the FT 4. Can't see any reall difference between the two other than stiffness and price. If you do another, I like to see what you have to say about the Super Tack line.
The tacks line are for wider feet, as far as I know.
I have the ccm jetspeed 485 with the black steel blades and I do things like jumping, parkour, crushed ice and freestyle. For me and what I do they are perfect.
I also skate 4 days a week
Thanks for your videos!
I have a problem bc I'm not a good skater but in the winter I skate 4+ times a week so I want something that will last, comfortable and that wraps around my ankle really nicely and my 300$ tacks don't have comfort and a nice wrap around my ankle so not sure what to do
I got the as-v pros and they are great but too stiff for me so I'm thinking of returning them should I get a cheaper skate or maybe try like the ribcore 100ks or jetspeed ft4 pros
Anyone has my problem?
5'10 215 lbs I play 2 to 3 times a week and I'm using the Vapor 3X pros and I absolutely love them. I'm not good enough to notice the difference between the 3X pros and the hyperlights