MauLer and SmilerAl Audio Commentary - Star Wars: The Last Jedi
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- čas přidán 30. 12. 2018
- So it is now over one year since my first movie rant and as a result, we thought we could have a celebration of sorts.
Me and Alex run through Star Wars: The Last Jedi, the copy we have is 2:31:51 and we have a countdown in the video itself. Join us, as we re-visit the incredible achievement that is this dumpster fire and share some thoughts about the whole thing.
Let me and Alex know if this was a possible waste of time or if you have suggestions on how to improve it. Or if you would like to see different movies covered in future.
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Thank you all for supporting my endeavour to review media, I couldn't have done it without you guys. A lot more content is on the way, I shall see you there :) / - Hry
Hello there!
I thought this would be something fun to start as a potential series of videos, depending on what people feel about it. :) /
This is the first audio commentary we have ever done so it's clunky at best. There's a bit more than just the edited audio tracks and a screen shot and It's in hopes that you guys will enjoy it a little more as supplementary content. Let me know what you think about potentially dropping this or suggestions for what films you would like a commentary for.
There are some clips thrown into the video to make sure people who can't sync with the movie, know what we are talking about. But don't worry, you are not out of sync if you see those in weird places. As we say in the beginning, the film is 2 hours, 31 minutes and 51 seconds and it wont change if you start with us.
Have a happy new year folks and thanks for 2018 o/
MauLer hahaaaaaaa, you forgoooooooot, hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa
Thanks for the great content! Keep it up! Lord Jared bless you and Alex with beautiful Rhino Milk and all seeing Spider friends.
To quote MauLer,
“I personally can’t wait to get more on this!”
You either start as a RedLetterMedia clone, or you live long enough to clone RedLetterMedia.
*downloads shit jedi movie, straps in and gets ready to laugh*
The end credits should've said:
"The characters of George Lucas were harmed during the making of this movie."
Your intelligence were harmed during the watching of this film.
The entire planet was harmed during the making of this movie (this just has to get bigger)
Those characters have been long dead. Have you seen the prequels? They still make the last Jedi look like a masterpiece. Luke was butchered in tlj but Anakin was eviscerated over three films. To the credit of Rian Johnson, the last Jedi isn’t fundamentally broken- it sucks and has plot holes galore but it doesn’t completely collapse on itself. I’d give it a d+. the prequels are not even worthy of a grade.
James Moseley you said these characters (referring to the characters in TLJ) are long dead and then reference the prequels. Did you proofread this before posting? And the prequels didn't contradict or brake something fundamentally important about Vader 's character or his role in the story. At worst, it over exposed him. Pre Vader Anakin was never going to be interesting. Over exposing the villain isn't nearly as bad framing all hero's from the originals in a negative light. You have terrible priorities.
Or, "no actual characters created by George Lucas were used in this film to prevent their harm as per the international humanitarian character abuse monitor."
I love how Finn, who's basically a defecting Stormtrooper and really just a recruit at this point, asks Leia the plan she not only tells him and the bridge officer details their intent. But Poe who's a Captain and basically a decorated and loyal X-Wing Pilot/Commando asks Holdo what's the plan she brushes him off and tells him to piss off for even talking to her.
You forgot he saved the entire Resistance himself by destroying Starkiller Base. lol
@@AndJusticeforAll567 Well it was a combination effort between Finn and Po.
Poe was thrown under the bus in that movie.
In the same way I can watch the original six Star Wars films and peel away fresh layers of well-thought out details I hadn't noticed in years of watching again and again almost every time, rewatching TLJ just seems to reveal more and more inconsistencies. This movie is the anti-Star Wars.
@KingOne yeah but Finn is a Resistance hero then Poe is definitely one as well.
The last jedi is like snoke, his robe is elaborate and expensive - the visuals, but underneath he is broken, scarred and disgusting - the story/script
Nice metaphor. :)
“metaphor”- Drax
and done at the middle
and his voice is performed by Andy Serkis, who isn't scary or exciting as ive seen everything he can do before and now its old and shit - the disney
Do we even know that? Like seriously
Friend of mine once asked me "If you hate this movie so much, why do you keep watching the reviews for it?"
The answer is pretty simple: Its cathartic.
Star Wars the original trilogy is probably one of the best things i've ever experienced, in terms of culture. It actually FEELS GOOD to trash something that ruined it.
this is so true, i feel like TLJ is the movie i know more about by now and i hate it
Leonardo Davi
Sig. Signoe "Cathartic"? More like "confirmation bias" guys... welcome to reality... misery, you need company.
I think I have watched these movies now 44 times. All with the Rifftrax on or commentaries like this ON. Never the original dialogue. This is the new way to appreciate bad movies. :) the best way to make lemonade, you know?
@@GARY84ROCKS Confirmation bias is when you only accept what confirms what you want to be true. Do you think I wanted TLJ to be this bad? I love Star Wars. I wanted it to be good. And like Mauler said: "We could've had such a good film". It had potential, a lot of it. But since it it so horribly bad in so many levels the only enjoyment I get from it is by trashing it. I still prefer to watch a good movie any day, but this one... ugh
@@MrEmpireBuilder0000 It's kind of an art, isn't it?
I do love how the child slaves will have to clean up Rose's carnage.
Tasty Loaf they leave the kids in slavery. Save the horse dogs, leave the kids in misery. Good job.
Tasty Loaf at the end the kids are playing with hand made toys of an X-wing and Luke. How did they hear about it? Who told them? There were only like 15 Resistance fighters left. The First Order won’t tell them. It made no sense.
bigorange2082 i heard one of the resistance survivors was a jouranlist or so and spread the legend of luke skywalker but i dont know where they heard it
@@bigorange2082 "Starkiller base blew up? Meh... Very meh. Like... a ghost appeared before the FO and it... went away or something. And was... there... I suppose? Uhm, yeah... INSPIRATION!"
"It was worth it though."
MauLer, I'm genuinely concerned by the amount of TLJ you've exposed yourself to. See a doctor, it can't be good for your health.
crossbones116 Nah see, he’s like a 60s Marvel hero where he’s been exposed to the right amount of TLJ that he gained superpowers.
He's just immune to it by now
I think at this point its like hes dead but doesnt know it yet. Like those with severe radiation poisoning hes had too heavy at dose and at somepoint his body will just fail. Killed by the bullshit of space balls remastered.
Reece Avis - you’ve nailed it. TLJ is just Spaceballs: Remastered. (....only without the intentional humour)
“I can quit any time I want.”
The film makes perfect sense if you realize it is Finn's coma dream.
That's how they'll subvert our expectations for episode IX
No it would create a plot hole because it means Finn would have dreamed about making out with an ugly chick (but hey, maybe he’s into that)
The sequel trilogy makes perfect sense if you realize it is Luke's drunk dream after party with Ewoks.
@@user-xx6vy9ri8p This is now canon and nobody can tell me otherwise.
I would have loved if this was just a Nightmare from Finn and he just wakes up, we get Episode 8 1/2 a month later and it's actually good
To anyone who argues that Holdo’s dress was appropriate attire for a military officer because Leia wore a dress in ANH: At the beginning of that movie she was acting in her official capacity as a member of the royal family of Alderaan/an ambassador on a diplomatic mission, not as a member of the rebel militia. She was dressed appropriately for a princess.
@BK Beatty I don’t disagree with any of that.
You're a racist!!
@@cassandra.wladyslava That's fine since facts don't need your permission to exist. Everything he said happens, in the movie. No subtext needed.
@@Smratboy and further facts are your shitty comment was entirely unnecessary
@@Smratboy Uhh…what are you even talking about? It honestly sounds like you commented on the wrong thing because what you said is so out of left field.
Or if you could point out where I said facts needed my permission to exist/where I talked about subtext, I’d appreciate it.
I’m not trying to start anything or argue. I’m genuinely confused.
Also, Finn should have been an engineer, not a janitor. It would have given him a valuable skill set, a reason for him to have intimate knowledge of all the first order tech, and he still could be minimally combat capable and a coward, giving him plenty of room for character growth. But, I guess he isn't allowed to outshine Rey in any capacity.
EvilCoffee5 I wish I could give this comment more than one like.
Force Awakens: Han and Leia telling Rey how great she is.
Last Jedi: Luke telling Rey how great she is.
Episode 9: Lando telling Rey how great she is.
@@bigorange2082 even Yoda says Rey already has everything she needs
bigorange2082 It’s so sad the way modern Star Wars has been treated.
Rather than the “show, don’t tell” style of the OT, they tell us why we should care with absolutely no evidence for why we should :/
I’d care about Rey if there was some sort of realism to her or her accomplishments felt earned. Oh well, hopefully episode IX is the end for this lame trilogy and we can actually begin going through another New Republic (seriously though, imagine all these characters get killed off and sidelined so we can actually explore a cool new concept of a fledgling republic).
@@FuddlyDud dude they don't even tell us, most background for both TFA and TLJ is missing or relayed via books or comics
For example did you know the stormtrooper who dies at the beginning of TFA was Finn's only friend as he was a big brother of sorts and the one he fights later on was also a friend which is why he recognizes him and calls him traitor?
You can learn this by buying a book that they don't even sell in my country
I seem to recall Lucas having a rule about not doing flashbacks, something about them reminding people that they are watching a movie.
Exactly why that scene with the visions in TFA bothered me. Voices are fine but vision's in SW need to be in the current time and not hallucinations
Snoke doesn’t know about the hyperspace tracker even though it’s on his own ship.
What a subversion of my expectations.
Also Finn doesn’t know that hyperspace tracking is possible, even though he does.
@@wearywanderer7018 now that's a subversion!
Apparently its not only on his ship but widespread in the fleet. And he doesn't know. Because.. uh... oh look, porgs are cute!
“It’s all a waste dude. The whole film’s a waste.” That was the most profound and honest, true thing ever spoken, Mauler.
It's wheel spinning the movie haha, even the fight is a mess
And essentially hamstringed the third one since it had to be a 2nd and 3rd movie at the same time, leading to it being such a cluttered and jumbled mess
It's still better than Jedi but that wasn't hard
@@KaladinVegapunk better than Jedi ?!
No
@@KaladinVegapunk TLJ is better than Rotj? False
@@KaladinVegapunk you really hate ewoks don't you
@@KaladinVegapunk it's an objective fact that Return of the Jedi is better than The Last Jedi.
The real Star Wars 8 is the friends we made along the way.
Well said
Ain’t that the truth though!
the disney movies made me like the prequels way more. they were sometimes bad, but episode 3 was a good movie, and even the not so good ones were at least good as a kid or now have massive meme potential.
Heck you
That's how we're gonna win: making friends along the way, not making sense.
I was flipping channels and saw part of Spaceballs. There's a scene in it where they are arrested for illegal parking.
Lol I always said that plot line sounds like something you'd put in a comedy
I think *That's* where Rian Johnson got the idea from.
There's also a scene in Spaceballs where John Candy climbs down a ladder going into Space without being affected by it, which is similar to how Rose's sister is unaffected by Space when she drops the bombs.
"It’s like poetry. It rhymes." -Rian Johnson
Every silence, I interpret as you both staring in horror.
Ahhhhhhahaha
Who could blame they though?
WELL ACCORDING TO _READER RESPONSE_
"The Resistance ships are smaller and lighter than ours."
Fun fact: that means nothing in space. If anything, the larger ships with more powerful engines would be faster.
Faster I could buy, but I feel like a smaller ship would be more maneuverable and agile, thereby fucking with whatever firing solutions are made. That said the fact that the dreadnought doesn’t have some Phalanx CIWS esque chain-laser is bs, fairly certain even actual dreadnoughts had machineguns when planes started to become a thing to worry about
@@dogman9223 the opening scene shows that have something similar, but the x wings are *too fast*
@@ChrisPBacon-zf5gm Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong guns, but the ones I recall shooting at poe's fighter were more akin to a battleships multipurpose secondary battery (and a rather poor one at that).
Smaller ships would still be more maneuverable, because even without gravity, there is still inertia to contend with.
@@Kevin-jb2pv ...and larger ships with larger engines would be able to catch smaller craft. Thank you for making my point.
1:10:47 This part of the movie is where I mentally checked out. I was expecting Rose and Finn to be devastated that: they failed their mission to retrieve the code-breaker, they left the resistance / their friends to die, and they were surrounded and could not escape and would probably be imprisoned for years. Then Finn proceeds to gloat about how they damaged the city and Rose says it was "worth it" because they released the animals. These two main characters are proud about releasing some animals that will be caught again and destroying some slot machines, rather than feeling hopeless for the reasons above. I don't think anything in the prequels was as bad as this one scene.
Yup.I had to check-in with my friend whilst watching and say "they do know their friends are dying right now?"
Yeah for God's sake.. it seems like Ryan Johnson is just a childish activist whos priorities are really messed up. The type of person who would rob in a market and blame capitalism for it.
There is one problem with this audio commentary...I would have to watch TLJ again...
No worries. I give this an hour before Disney nukes it.
Where would you even find it? I can't even find it in dumpsters anymore.
Marcara081 torrents and free sites🤔
@@Marcara081 lmao
@@MatJan86 because TLJ was a dumpster fire...oh nevermind....
If there is only a handful of rebels willing to fight in the entire universe, do the rebels ever wonder whether their cause is a just one?!
I doubt it, their leader does so much cocaine, she thinks she can survive in deep space without a helmet.
I thought that too. The Rebels have no popular support, and their 'allies' are entirely unwilling to help (no surprise there: who'd leave their forces to the tender mercies of a pair of morons like Leia or Holdo?). Basically the argument is "We're attacking the First Order, and it has the effrontery to try to defend itself, so that proves it's evil'.
Well from what I can see the incompetency of the Republic really leads me to believe that the Empire is a better governing body. Sure they are ruthless but at least the universe wasn’t a shit hole where bandits and drug runners ran rampant. But instead of doing something interesting in these movies regarding the First Order and the Republic they completely omitted the Republic and made the First Order space nazis.
I just assumed the rest if the galaxy couldn't deal with their bad management either.
"You gotta be quiet for this bit because you might hear me kill myself" LOL Best line of the commentary .
Where is this line?
Strike one: Poe momma joke.
Strike two: Luke throws the saber.
Strike three: Leia Poppins.
I was done.
It took me leia poppins to really figure out something was wrong.
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Mary Poppins in space told me all I needed to know, that there would never be any tension in this film, I have watched bad movies like Mortal Kombat before, but at least the Mortal Kombat movie had cheesy funny moments to keep me interested in the movie in spite of it being dumb. The new Star Wars movies are just really, really , boring.
Strike Four: Yoda destroys the *s a c r e d j e d i t e x t s* with Force lightning.
Strike Five: Snoke dies.
Strike Six: Holdo Hyperspace Self-Sacrifice Kamikaze.
Strike Seven: Rose stops Finn from self-destructing.
Strike Eight: Luke dies.
Sequels, you're fired. Get out of my building.
I held on for dear life through all those, but when they killed snoke they killed me too
For once your commentary on TLJ will not take more time than TLJ.
There's always room for sequels though, we know that.
What are you talking about? The video is 2 hours 37 minutes, the film is 2 hours 31 minutes. Much longer!
Now imagine - in 20 years - when people will have this commentary available on TLJ-DVDs ...
@@Muck006 I assume DVDs will be gone in 20 years
Infinitely more entertaining 😁
"Thank the Maker! This oil bath is going to feel soo good!" - C-3PO, A New Hope.
"Then I'll see you in hell!" - Han Solo, The Empire Strikes Back.
"I'm sorry captain Solo: it's against my programming to impersonate a deity." - C-3PO, Return of the Jedi.
46:55 Nothing would work on Rey.
Yoda, Sidious, Luke, Anakin, Obi-Wan, Mace Windu, the rest of the entire prequel era Jedi Council, and one thousand storm troopers wouldn't be able to defeat Rey Sue in combat, even if she'd just woken up, and had slept on her arm funny and it was asleep and all tingly.
Heck even Rey couldn't beat Rey at this point
Rey could cut through the Zillo Beast armor, and make the Kessel run in less than 5 parsecs, all while wielding more lightsabers at once than General Grievous.
in EP.9 she'll blow a planet away by just queefing
In Episode IX Rey will rip Starkiller Base 2 in half just by flexing her pinky finger
She could do it with both arms asleep! Cuz she....um.. because, just because she can. And I bet all those stormtroopers would be men too!
Still cant get over Luke getting beaten by Rey in 3 seconds flat.
You realize that Luke didn’t even get beaten. And When Luke “fell”, he used the force to levitate just over the ground. Luke let Rey win to test her skills.
@@dumonga9594 You don't test the skill of somebody by deliberately loosing. That's like I want to test your math skills and then give you a math test for a 2nd grader.
Him holding back would make sense, but "letting her win"?
I can't get over the fact that the director of this dumpster fire is going to be getting his own Trilogy here in the next decade. It makes my blood boil to think about it.
@@tiduswhiteblade8535 The trilogy will be the guys from Game of Thrones.
Sort of. Luke actually beat Rey pretty easily in their *duel.*
Luke casually avoided and countered her attacks, smacked her a few times, and then easily disarmed her by grabbing the staff straight out of her hands and throwing it away. It's just that then Rey reached out for the nearby blue lightsaber. When he saw that Rey was now bringing a lightsaber to a stick fight, Luke stumbled backwards and fell.
At that point on the ground Luke had three options...1) Pull out his own green lightsaber (though it wasn't clear he had it on him or anywhere nearby); 2) Use some sort of evasive maneuver like a Force shove; or 3) Simply give up the little fight.
Given that Luke didn't approach Rey with his own lightsaber already in hand, nor pull it out when she started attacking him, it seemed pretty clear he had no interest in truly hurting or killing her. Even at the point where he was on the ground, I think he still probably could have defeated her, but it would have meant attacking her with a level of deadly force he did not want to use. He wasn't willing to harm or kill Rey, and he kinda wanted to die anyway so he didn't care about defending himself.
Rey didn't beat Luke, TLJ Luke gave up and because he had defeated himself long before Rey ever stepped foot on the island.
I mean, still an absolutely terrible decision IMO for the direction/assassination of Luke's character.....but after re-watching the duel sequence, I found that I had also misremembered how that scene played out. Luke outduled Rey easily, and then basically just gave up the moment she grabbed the lightsaber.
You are bringing up some great points a lot of people don't notice. All this happens after a span of a day.
1) How did Finn become this famous Resistance hero.
2) How did Rey go from seeing a person *Kylo) who killed his own father. Tried to kill her and her only friend (Finn) to then going to "save" him over one vision. Mind you, she has no idea what the force is. She is obviously confused about all this power she just got and is looking for help. Also, Rey thought of Luke as some myth and legend, yet she knows all his personal history. Even the throne room scene which was probably a very personal event between Luke and Darth Vader. Why would any of that be common knowledge to anyone. From the novel Bloodlines, all we know is that Darth Vader is still known as the ruthless murderous evil enforcer to the Emperor and nothing else.
How did Finn get completely healed in a day?
@@Umcarasemvideo Minority agenda armor is strong with him ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
As for 2) she suddenly changes her disposition for Kylo when seeing him shirtless. That's it. They literally went the "She has a boner for him" route of affection.
But yeah, nonsense is the theme of TLJ.
I hope they continue with this time frame and by the end of ep 9 we discover that the whole war between the first order and the resistance took place over the course of one long crazy weekend.
@@Umcarasemvideo prefaced by the fact that I know I'm not supposed to write for Rion Johnson: I think that FN-128's water suit is supposed to be a personal bacta tank. You see bacta onscreen in empire (the scene where Luke is in the tube with the robo-diaper) it's the clear liquid Luke is bouncing around in. Bacta has been a staple medicine for a very long time in Star Wars and idk if it's intended as such, but it could make sense if medicine was advanced enough for FN-128 to heal quickly, but it would also open yet more plot-holes.
I had an issue with the 'Godspeed, Rebels,' line, but mostly just because it just sounded like Rian Johnson not giving a shit that he's supposed to be writing a Star Wars movie.
First and foremost, we actually heard the loudspeaker in the Rebel base before the first Death Star attack punctuate the orders with 'May the Force be with you.' That seemed like their equivalent of 'Godspeed' or somesuch.
And second, this is the first of two times in rapid succession where Rian Johnson seemed to just not give any fuck about how this isn't the Rebel Alliance. It's the Resistance. I think the distinction is stupid to begin with since TFA clearly wanted Rebels vs Empire and just rebranded both of them, but it seemed like just the latest expression of Rian's ongoing contempt for even the faintest semblance of continuity, even with what was established in the last goddamn film.
That is correct, 'God', at least in most instances, is replaced by 'the Force', unless they're in some weird cult.
@BK Beatty good. That's retarded
Luke inherited youngling killing
Should've had Ewan McGregor Obi Wan force ghost doing his "stifling laughter" face when he watched Luke turn on his lightsabre.
Holdo’s philosophical statement is basically “Listen and Believe”
She doesn't need proof...
Isn't that also Vader's philosophy
Yeah she acts like they're a fascist organization, no questioning anything.. you're fucking rebels
And you're terrible at command if you don't inform your crew to the point at mutiny
Picard could work off a need to know basis and have loyalty because he'd built that trust, they don't know who she fucking is and she hasn't inspired any trust and loyalty, even a speech or anything
They hand wave it like she cared more about saving them blah blah and it's nonsense
Also the idea that Luke realized the Jedi council was complacent and stuck in their ways blinding them to the threat is a fun concept that would have been interesting to explore..qui gon was the only one kind of aware of that and was more of a grey Jedi
But like everything else, they don't add anything to it and there's no depth
@@KaladinVegapunk Define what you think Fascism is.
Hate toward sequel trilogy unite us.
According to Wookiepedia, The Supremacy was large enough to dock 8 Resurgent-class Star Destroyers-6 externally & 2 internally. It crewed over 2,225,000 personnel, including officers, stormtroopers, gunners, vehicle engineers, factory workers, technical specialists, and communications staff. It possessed at least 10 military staging areas, each of which could accommodate a full corps of more than 36,000 stormtroopers. It was also capable of harbouring, building, and conducting ship repairs for the First Order Navy in its onboard hangar bays,[2] two of which were large enough to house and repair Resurgent-class Star Destroyers. DUDE F_CK THIS MOVIE.
Heh, the First Order just wished for unlimited amounts of ressources from some dragon balls at this point
Julio Acceus So the Supremacy held just as many men as the first Death Star? Wtf how? How did the FO even get so many credits to fund JUST THAT SHIP ALONE?
That there, is the dumbest fucking shit I've ever heard... A capital ship holding a couple Corvette class ships as well as fighter compliments? That is fully believable, but fuck, being able to hold multiple entire CAPITAL SHIPS inside your Dreadnaught is just MIND BOGGLING, as well as its crew compliment.. Literally the crew of the death star is small compared to that, also, let's not forget, an Empire SPLINTERCELL owns this ship. This wasnt like the Star Forge or something, some found mystery like the Katana Fleet, no..
The First Order just magically has this much shit after The Empire fell.. gimme a break. If 2 out of 3 films in this saga haven't explained it, Episode 9 certainly wont..
Aaaand fuel is a finite resource xD
The comments on here really are the most refreshing things to read.
I’m so glad these awful new Star Wars films have brought so many people together.
Keep it up.
The films aren’t awful. You lads are in the minority.
Shut the fuck up, please.
It's given work to the Rifftrax.com people. I am sure you've heard of those guys. But if you haven't. Good god! I think I watched Force Awakens 16 times now all with their dialogue/commentary on.
Dragonage2ftw Whoa getting a bit defensive there, curiously.
I know it’s 2019 but, Pretty sure opinions are still allowed. Even yours mate.
Dragonage2ftw TLJ is fucking garbage, this movie and Rise of Skywalker both completely invalidate the previous movies, even TFA and Rogue One are lightyears ahead. The biggest problem is that theres nonstop action in every new SW movie with ZERO room for any meaningful character development or worldbuilding, I don’t care about the conflict in the movie because I don’t know anything about the participating factions or what they stand for.
@@Dragonage2ftw good one
Ridley Scott: I'm going to make a bunch of new movies that will completely ruin my beloved sci fi series retroactively.
Disney: Hold my beer!
@By Grapthar's Hammer touche, sir.
@By Grapthar's Hammer You are now my favourite person on the internet for the next 24 hours.
@By Grapthar's Hammer straight facts
Captain Marvel is by far the worst.
A ten Year Cinematic Universe Spanning 20 films (at the time) ruined by *one* single film by Shitting all over the continuity of the Franchise *And* by doing to the audience what Thanos did to life in the Universe... By showing a blatent contempt for the Male Gender and therefore alienating literally Half of the audience.
At least Prometheus and Covenant were objectively enjoyable and watchable. I can’t think of any SW fan I know that actually liked TLJ apart from its audio/visuals.
This is objectively a great video in my subjective opinion.
It's like a critique video in recovered footage movie form.
Subjectively
@Phil Swift IN A CAN!!!
Note to all people of the future: Phil Swift called this 2 hour 37 minute video objectively great 45 minutes after it was posted.
But that's just, like, your opinion, man.
i forgot how much this film just drags on, i mean my goodness. say what you will about tfa but at least that film is a brisk watch in comparison.
Could you just imagine the New Jedi Academy on the big screen? How much bloody better would that be? Otherwise it's just a beat-cop with Mary Sue...
There's no way in hell I'm watching TLJ ever again.
But I'll listen to this, several times :)
mister-x And never get bored?
What were expecting? Empire Strikes Back?
@@Adorni oh trust me after once you can see TLJ in your mind well listening if there was a way to unsee it then Disney would have monetized it already.
Until Mauler's video hit, the first reviews about TLJ just didn't quench my thirst for connecting with someone about my disgust of TLJ. So thanks. His ability to be very specific is his #1 Power. He deserves massive credit for earning his success with detailed scrutiny and hardwore instead of going the easy route of SJW criticism being 90% of the video.
Agreed, unlike WCBS *groan*
Or EvS and Geeks and Gamers... The sgit they wanted in this film was worse than Rian Johnson. Jeremy has a hard on for Ahsoka Tano, despite her ruining the lore if she lives past ANH.
Hollywood Hulk Hogan Geeks and Gamers is the worst. I want to like him so much but jesus Jeremy just can't stop clicking the sjw clickbait. He seems smart and ambitious too.
Mr wardrobe that is exactly who I was thinking of LOL. I want to like their shit but they just can't stop beating the dead horse's longdead carcass. yes we get it. Rose tico sucks.
Hollywood Hulk Hogan How does she run the lore?
If becoming OP is an end point for a good and well-written character, I would gladly have it.
Luke becoming OP is a much better and more rewarding payoff than a character assassination.
@BK Beatty exactly
*How to fix the Disney Trilogy in episode 9:*
_Luke wakes up in bed realizing it was all an horrible dream_ - THE END
Maybe let him wake up in his Jedi Academie and realising he had a force Vision.He stands up,looks at his Lightsaber and desides to leaf it.He gets to the hut where Ben sleeps Wakes him and says:"We have to talk Ben."This would be a good start I guess.
Pieminator
"Duke! Listen, you're just having a really bad trip, man!"
(czcams.com/video/oOmyuweolqY/video.html at 27:27)
@@marcuskurze9759 Okay, this is legitimately a decent thought, even if the whole "it was all a dream" is a hideous trope the force vision is an established thing
The titles said it already. The force awakens the last jedi the rise of skywalker. It’s just all about Luke waking up.
Maybe It was a horrible force vision. Like when Luke was meditating in The Empire Strikes Back on Degaba
So they lose 5 bombers, right? Well, seems like it's two people per bomber.
So that's 10 people they lost total, for an ENTIRE dreadnought that likely housed hundreds if not thousands of First Order troops and personnel.
"At what cost" indeed.
I believe it's three (Pilot, Bomber and Gunner) but your point still stands.
12 fighters took down a planet size weapon with entire legions of stormtroopers and ressources on it yet they are still losing hard. By the films' twisted logic, the cost was indeed high, still bullshit tho
Indeed. It's a spectacular victory, they just don't have any resources.
You can't fight a war with nothing. This is basic logic.
Nailed a significant capital ship with a handful of strikecraft literally a minuscule fraction of the cost of said target in terms of cost, manpower, resource investment, and sheer morale? That's what we call a coup, even in the face of utter defeat. But remember; the good guys don't ever sacrifice ANYONE in the face of a brutal and losing war, because good guys don't sacrifice anyone.
The bombing mission was recalled because Holdo realized they were not equiped with plot armor
Luke being high on drugs and hallucinating the events of TLJ would be hilarious!
Mr Trick He snorted one too many death sticks with Han after celebrating.
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If IX opens with Luke opening his eyes, shaking his head, then going outside of his cave to find Rey practicing a routine he is teaching her and she asks "You look worried, did you have a bad dream?", i would immediately forgive Disney-owned Lucasfilms.
@@joshuakim5240
It would be funny if Luke said "I'm fine, I'm just tripping balls. Got any acid? No? Ok lets take a look at my dad's lightsaber. I hallucinated that i threw it into the sea."
@@joshuakim5240 Or, Rey opening her eyes and asking about weird force visions; mirroring Empire with Yoda training Luke.
On Crate, how come the Millenium Falcon can triple-kill a bunch of TIE fighters, but not just trounce the cannon? Doesn't it have the ability to shoot that far? It should have been easy, especially with God Herself at the guns.
Wait... Oh my that's right they could take down the fuccin beam with the falcon and avoid several deaths... Oh well, another hit on the dead horse
_Seriously,_ There's *Always* something new to find. It never ends.
Those AT-ATs probaly take some time to turn around. She could easily shoot the "Battering Ram Cannon" (lmao) from behind
@Revan so why didn''t Rey use it? And the blast from MF would not work?
@@anhdinhlamduc5700 I'm sure the missiles were sold for scrap or something. That's how I would justify it if I were eager to defend this discontinuious piece of garbage.
yknow, listening to this I just thought of how fucking easy it would be to fix Poes arc while retaining the rough plot beats.
Just make it so that the bridge shouldn't have been able to be destroyed because it had shields, but those shields suspiciously go down, meaning a traitor sabotaged them. You could even have Leia, because of her force sensitivity or whatever. Maybe feel a disturbance or something, and try to leave before it gets blown up, and survive but be caught in the blast. Maybe you could have it be that Poe was given orders to try to stop a shot from hitting the bridge but he refuses, saying hes got a good shot at destroying the dreadnaught and didn't want to risk the opportunity.
That would accomplish
1. justifying why they could just shoot the bridge
2. Leia could display force sensitivity in a way that isn't flying through fucking space.
3. given everyone a valid reason to believe there is a traitor on board
4. Make it so Poe did something you could criticize him on.
or you could just actually make Purple Hair the villian instead of copping out on that for muh wimmin.
having Holdo be the one who took down the shields would also be more in line with the way the movie portrays her as a character constantly hiding shit from poe, and would make for a good setup for her to be a villain, but nah gotta push an agenda
At least now it's bearable to sit through.
Idk, can you really handle listening to his monotone voice for a full 2 and a half hours? I can't. Atleast when watching the last jedi I could laugh at how utterly ridiculous and rule breaking the movie was.
Here before the inevitable takedown
Me too
Some angry nerd gonna report this.
I honestly thought Holdo was a spy for the Empire, I was expecting her to pull something when and if Rey returned to make sure the Empire got the Rebels only force sensitive. Plus beyond that she did her best to neutralize the remaining leadership on the cruiser and sow discord, all the while she is killing off the rest of the senior leadership in the fleet, AKA the captains of the other ships.
lolroflroflcakes I was expecting that.
She sounds like a typical far leftist in the USA. Does everything to oppose the US and sow discord and fear among the citizens....while China trys to bombard us. We think their actions are bad and misguided.... but the media (the movie) ends up telling us they (she) are actually the good guys..... because they say so.
@@Biggiiful
Pff, okay, dude, calmos
A kind gesture on Leia's part when she receives the dice, would be to throw them over her shoulder.
That would explain why they ended up on the ground lol
@@timy9197 It all makes sense now. It's like poetry... it rhymes.
LOL
1:18:32 "NO SEXING...HOW DARE YOUUU!! - This should have been Jake's actual dialogue in the movie.
Stormtrooper Finn, force sensitive orphan Rey and a pilot Poe forced to take charge. So much potential down the drains.
Entertaining commentary, can't wait to see what you will do with Genisys.
i saw a great video yesterday where someone was breaking down the military aspects of the scene and mentioning something i've never heard you comment on. According to the book, the bombers flew in from hyperspace from an area in the galaxy where they're hiding just specifically for this mission. that means it was planned in advance and they were waiting fueled , loaded , and ready to destroy first order ships.
That means Leia was the one who authorized this mission in the first place and after the bombers revealed their existence to the first order and had them at a disadvantage, she change her mind and said they should escape despite that leaving them open to being attacked from behind. So if you thought she was incompetent as portrayed by johnson , you didn't even give a glimpse of how incompetent he thought she was.
That also implies that the Resistance foresaw there being an attack but didn't bother to stock enough fuel(Coaxium, I guess?) for more than 2 jumps with their main fleet. The more you look at it, the more the military incompetency burns through.
Looking forward to listening to this in the background.
I see you have a good taste in avatars as well
TEEN TITANS
M'Lady! :)
Raven Nothing's better than playing games/working as MauLer is in the background
02:09:58 _'Why did you just give me Han's ex-girlfriend's dice?'_
brilliant
Why would Po be a mole, he blew up Star Killer Base.
The perfect cover story!
@@TeaNoSugar87 big brain time
And now we can ask why Hux would be a spy
Haha yeah there's literally zero excuse for Holdo to not tell the plan, leading to a fucking mutiny, its just a terrible command and there's no excuse for it
Wait... I just made the realization. If there was a guy in the small little prison on the ship, did they get him out when they evacuated the ship, or did that guy not have any idea what was going on and died when Holdo did her bs hyperspace jump.
I said this while in the theater lol. If Rose was incapacitating soldiers and putting them in cells, there's no telling how many she killed during the Holdo maneuver. And of course she's not culpable and it's not talked about lol
As far as I can remember Leia only really wore a dress in Str Wars and Bespin, as well as the village, however in battle she wore uniform... so those people need to check their priviledge, in my opinion.
Leia was actually wearing a uniform of sorts while in the base at Hoth and then again during the assault on Endor she was dressed in the same camo gear as the rest of the rebel soldiers.
@@macree01 yeah that's what I was saying, any time she was in some sort of commanding role after Star Wars, she wore uniform. It was great, Hoth uniform was my favorite Leia.
Its a shame they skipped the movie when Luke formed the new Academy and trained a new gen of Jedi.
Its a shame they never showed how Ben was drawn to the dark side, and why.
Its a shame they never showed how the new Republic was as weak and bad as the old one.
Its a shame they never explained the relation of Republic, Ressistance and First Order. Was there a 2nd and 3rd order? Order or what?
Its a shame the audience is supposed to know all this without explanation.
Its a shame Luke does not mirror his own training from Obiwan and Yoda.
Its a shame they completely made Reys past meaningless.
Its a shame they rushed the timeline and not have more time frow from 8-9.
Its a shame.
Gabriel Pettersson - it’s a shame we never seen the Knights of Ren.
@@effortlessGFX Exactly. And what why they were formed and what happened to them.
If Kylo is not Sith, he wants to have a new Empire.
And Snoke would REALLY have needed a backstory in all this.
Gabriel Pettersson
Agreed minus the Rey backstory. I thought that was great. Not every hero needs to come from a legendary bloodline.
@@heathenpride7931 weeel. I dont know. The way they built that up would make me feel better if her story matched Kylos.
They act like they are alike, but if all they end up being is yin and yang its kind of meh imo.
@Revan I have no idea how Abrams will try to fix this. He have had the script for a long time.
If I were him... I would probably need at least 2 films to do it.
And by that I mean bridge and explain the things they just left unanswered.
Also something that's been partially hammered at now appears to me;
They took ages with speeders to breach the distance between the base and the cannon and Rose+Finn just walk it... but Kylo also just walks it to Luke when their fight ensues. I guess the Rose+Finn impact just shrunk the entire battlefield a hundredfold? No. Consistency. What-so-ever.
@BK Beatty Not going to rewatch the movie, but from what I recall the shuttle is at the AT-AT's location...
It's in TESB where Han says "see you in Hell".
C-3PO says "thank the maker" a couple of times in the prequels and basically just refers to the person that made him I think.
The god speed quote is just weird.
Han also said: "what the hell are you doing?" When Leia shot open the trash compactor in ANH.
Ti My but hell is a Corellian exclamation
His maker is actually Anakin. But he doesn't remember.
@@user-xx6vy9ri8p I know
@@user-xx6vy9ri8p jar jar starts talking about the gods in the phantom menace
When C-3PO says, "Thank the Maker", he is thanking his maker aka Darth Vader.
Why would the kid need to use a broom? He can’t Force that dirt on the floor around?
1:42:09 I always understood that C3PO thanking HIS maker, he is a droid after all
Marcelo Silveira yeah I don’t see how it’s NOT obvious about what he means, as a kid I understood this as well
You might be surprised how often I've heard of people thinking the droids are sentient and the maker is their equivalent to God.
Finn and rose better hope those horse/fox things are indigenous to that planet, or they just caused an eco disaster.
Star Wars The Last Jedi is objectively the worst thing since my son, in my opinion.
Plinkett said the same thing.
Force Awakens/farce engoarges wasn't an improvement either
*Wife's son
Can't criticise him cause it's just an opinion!
its the worst thing since bagpipes
Muusley you just don't understan the subtle meaning of the film, you just look at everything at face value. For example Rose's saving what we love speech is a metaphor for the Star Wars fandom. You're just fighting what you hate, TLJ and Rian Johnson. While us the TLJ Defenders are saving what we love, Star Wars. Praise our Lord Rian Johnson
*Obvious Sarcasm*
You plan on saving Star Wars by ramming your van into it by any chance? at full flank speed? Just curious ;)
It's not the same kind of story as the original trilogy. Everyone keeps trying to compare this film to the Empire Strikes Back for some reason.
@@suckmyass7368
hm.
some bimbo on a sand planet gets the call to adventure via droid.
meets old mentor, who gets killed by black clad evil dude he has a deep relationship with (master\learner dad/son) while sand bimbo looks on.
hero saves the day sabotaging tbe superweapon.
hm....
ir do you mean that sand bimbo defeats the trained evil guy without knowibg fucking anything and knows no hardship?
tfa was crap, tlj just proved how much of a mess the whole idea was.
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 Yeah, and you still don't know what the conclusion is. The biggest problem was with Episode 7, not 8 in my opinion. They made Episode 7 look way too much like Episode 4 which just confused people and was a big mistake. The duality between Ben and Rey is the entire point of the trilogy. Rey is not the final protagonist.
@@suckmyass7368 I don't think Lucasfilm knows either
There was a white Darth Vader in an Alternate Universe comics. He looks pretty Badass.
You know I wouldn't have minded the Lea force thing if it was more subtle. Instead of launching her a couple of meters it moved her a couple of inches toward a hatch that's just out of reach.
The vacuum of space kills in seconds. If there's no layer of some sort between your skin and the empty space, your body will cook itself to death. You need at least a miniature atmosphere for cooling down, as our bodies are not adapted to space.
Thanks Mauler now I can watch this video of yours and spend my New Year’s Eve looking at “women”........
because reasons
Check out EFAP episode 13 (The Last Jedi is amazing and you are all insane) that’s where the joke came from. I’d say it’s one of the strongest EFAPs whatever the hell that means.
Whamun... Wumoon... Whamenzo... Whagoogoo... Squish box.
@@thelax5311 one of my proudest EFAP indeed.
New Year's Even with Women
No wonder the resistence didn't last, more then 50% of there forces are petite tiny women. 25% alien. And all the head leaders are women......
I loved TLJ, its the most epic dumpster fire ever. I'm seriously not even mad anymore...If you're going to go out... hold on it's still burning.
better to burn out then fade away
boy have i got a product for you, the star wars prequels
I lower my expectations since SW:The Force Awakens.
My thought on before SW:The Last Jedi is " They are going to copy SW:Empire Strikes Back since previous one is copy of SW: The New Hope".
@@yudhiadhyatmikosiswono9082 That's what I don't understand. Why did anyone think that the Last Jedi was going to resemble Empire?
@@suckmyass7368 Agree, first order never works as Empire. It only works as small faction of groups like terrorist or Secret organization that rely on intelligence, corruption and stealth. That is my take if you want make First Order as threat.
MauLer and Al
Great work, loved all of it! I cannot believe it been one year since coming home from The Last Jedi viewing all pissed off. I my anger I switched on CZcams and found a dying Annikin screenshot title “The Last Jedi” and “Rage” in the title, English bloke and a rotting watermelon and the rest is history. Nice MauLer to see you caught lightning in a bottle and it brought you fortune.
One of your first fans.
Hugo
He's actually Welsh (he hides the accent well) lol
The Title crawl is so full of contradictions that it destroys whatever follows ...
My view on the finn and at at scene.
Pilots see the finn
-hey you see that black guy?
-yeah
-i remember him from training hes one of us
-yeah youre right, everyone stop firing
-no wait billy, he was rushing at us
-silly he clearly wanted to go back
-yeah youre right, everyone stop firing
The Force is Female. Of course they'd keep Leia through the end... Unfortunately, the Force had different plans.
Force Abortions?
It's ironic. She could save her own life from anything on a whim in the movies, yet she couldn't save herself from that cocaine high.
40:00 -ish. Wait a minute, Finn is trying to use an escape pod while the Ressistance fleet is in sight of the Star Destroyers. If you actually can escape to a safe place like that, then why exactly don't they evacuate as many people as possible in the escape pods? Maybe they won't be able to load everyone on board in the pods but saving just a percentage of the Ressistance is better than complete annihilation. It also turns out that they have shuttles with hyperdrive that can leave without being caught by the Empire (First Order, whatever). Load them also with as many people as you can and you may have saved a decent chunk of the Ressistance.
I think Luke lied to Leia and Han about Kylo. He probably told them the story he first told Rey. Which is why Han says "Luke blames himself for it" and Leia just wants to get Luke back and they're not blaming him at all. Which makes it even worse.
The watermelon was. Metaphor on how TLJ is rotting Starwars
I kind of saw it as a metaphor of how the film was going downhill the longer it played. It reflects the audience's patience with this bloody thing.
I wish you all an objectively happy new year in my subjective opinion
That's just, like, your objective fact, man!
Thanks to New Year response theory, I will objectively try to enjoy this year subjectively.
32:48 The moment when Rian informed the audience in no uncertain terms that his "vision" was gonna take precedence over IRL considerations... such as Carrie Fisher being dead. They had the perfect footage. They had the means of giving her an effective on-screen death. And he showed us that... and then he said "Nah. Fuck that!" and laughed his trademark laugh. That's how it felt when I saw the movie, and everything I've heard him say since only confirmed it... and proudly.
Actually, that is something I never thought of...
Luke gets upset when Yoda kerplodes the "sacred Jedi texts!" but... what _are_ the sacred Jedi texts? We can imagine that Palpatine and Vader burned or otherwise destroyed all knowledge and records kept by the Jedi after their usurpation; and maybe Yoda and Obi-Wan ran off with whatever they could carry - which wouldn't be much, given they were fleeing for their lives. Yoda slunk off immediately after losing to Palpatine, Obi-Wan fled from Mustafar immediately after defeating Anakin - if they saved any books it would have been a handful at most. Not to mention that the Jedi were never a religion in the first place, just a bunch of people with more gooblies in their blood than others. What's so sacred about what should realistically be a dozen or so rulebooks, rolodexes and receipts?
In A New Hope they only released a few ships from the Death Star because they were tracking them. They wanted the Falcon to lead them to the base.
In Jedi they unleashed all the TIES on them before the atttack on Death Star II. They even say the Star Destroyers don’t attack because the Emperor said not to. It all made sense.
I really admire Mark Hamill for having the balls to point out his problems early on ... i know it was tempting because of the money...i dont know if he really "needed" it...and i would have loved to see what would have happened if he went a step further and said he would not play THIS version of Luke.
Lol it would’ve been awesome if he had backed out..
Had he backed out there would have been a chance at a better version made by someone else. But now this fucking circus sideshow is canon.
I really lost all respect for Hamill who was the 9nly person with the power to say " no " to these subpar movie.makers but didnt because $ and bitched about it afterward
He didn't go back for the money, he just wanted the crew back together. Never would have happened since Ford would refuse but he did join, so did Hamill. And then he learned about the takeover afterwards. And then they never had scenes together. Yeah, Mark got pretty royally screwed over.
honestly, if it would have been me and it was just for the "fun" i would have said no to those scenes :( @@hassathunter2464
I must have PTSD. I flinched with each still image.
"...the emperor is coming back."
" oh fuck off"
.....its funny because it hurts
I got my “My kids Objectivity beats up your kids Subjectivity” shirt on and a tall glass of fresh squeezed Rhino Milk!
@Dubious!
Male Rhinos are the easiest to milk.
@@13thEcho
You drink male rhino tears?
@Dubious!
Not their tears ;)
13thEcho this comment chain is awesome!! XD
Thick creamy Rhino ̶c̶u̶m̶ milk
A suprise to be sure, but a welcome one
I lost it at the farting Snoke scenes and imagining the visual of C3PO hucking grenades at the ship.
*Sees MauLer exposing himself to more TLJ*
Stop it. Get some help.
Aren't we his help? No? Just here to see him suffer ? Ok...
We've had plenty of Jedi go full darkside after Order 66 and through the dark times or straight up give up and pretend they're not a force user in the comic books and novels. But Luke was the one who brought the Jedi Order back to it's former glory....well...the old canon at least.
MauLer, I came to realization on why the bombers were so bad. If they're being sold weapons from an outside source, then the worse they are, the more the Resistance (Rebels) will have to buy. Genius!
Great point. But in a way, it's also a metaphor for this movie.
The worse it is the more of it we'll have to get to get anything decent.
Ryan Johnson is the Jar Jar Binks of our universe
"Yousa want meesa make movie? Okie dokie!"
Don't insult Jar Jar like that.
Wow...The stills you acquired managed to perfectly capture the derpiest facial expressions on nearly every frame and every character.
The 1 dislike is Patrick Willems.
The other 5 dislikes are from moviebob,just write,major lee, and Sean macintosh and cinema wins.
Mutale Mwananshiku it’s Jon McIntosh. If he was Sean, that would mean his parents loved him enough to not to name him after the pathetic owner of a fat orange cat in a comic strip.
1 dislike = 1 Patrick Willems
Probably the npcs from r/moviecirclejerk.
35 now ... how many employees does Lucasfilms have?
It also makes no sense for any of the TIE fighters to dog fight with the rebel fighters and not just swarm the bombers, concentrating all their firepower or even kamakazi them.
I'd be very much interested in future audio commentaries! I think it's a very underexplored form of content as a platform for analysis. Thanks for the video Mauler, Smiler.
The Pilot at around 10:40 looks just as bewildered at how fragile most of the bombers are as everyone else probably was.
It's as if her face is saying, without words "We paid _how much_ for these flying trash cans?"
In an alter world, Mauler would write the script and CZcams would have a user called Ryan666 trying to criticize his film.
Ryan666 will still fail.
This video appearing in my notification box has 'Subverted my expectations'. :P
Loving the Palpatine reaction in the end credits 🤣 Some things age perfectly.
5:40 Oscar Isaac has his Apocalypse face on here. :D