Grave of Sam Starr
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- This cemetery has some big Old West history in it. There are two Cherokee outlaws interred here that are father and son. Tom and Sam Starr. Both men had a major influence on the female outlaw Belle Starr. Sam married Belle after her first husband was killed.
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Sam Starr's marker was a little difficult to read in person. His correct dates on the marker are Nov 24, 1859 as his birth to Dec 17 1886 when he died.
I am totally addicted to Belle, because of you ! Thank you ! ❤️
You're welcome and thank you for watching!
@@RhettyforHistory if you see a lot of binge watching on your channel, it's me 😁
Thank you for binge watching!
There are outlaws buried there, but I don't think any of them were being honored. History is history, they lived they died, you can't go back, and change it. In the mean time, we can learn from it all, and I think you do a great job doing that. We can honor those who are deserving of it. Thanks a bunch, and God Bless
I agree with you completely! I'm simply trying to just tell the history and share the stories of those that I can. I'm glad you understand that and I appreciate you commenting on it. Thank you for watching!
It always amazing to learn the various historical aspects of people's lives by visiting a cemetery. I particularly love the Old West history, but also enjoy hearing about our veterans, as well. I appreciate the investigating and information that you always bring to your channel. Take care 🐎
Thank you for watching Brenda. Some cemeteries are full of history and this one has a lot especially for the size. Many of these Starr's in this cemetery were involved in the Cherokee Civil War, American Civil War and outlaw ways. Then from there there are many stories from veterans and people who had lived later. It's a great cemetery to visit.
Thank you for the video. I like the history you tell with the graves and the Cemeterys. I learn so much from watching them.
Thank you so much for watching! I'm glad you are enjoying the history and learning a little more about it all.
Another good one Rhetty!
Thanks!
Thank you Robert and I appreciate you watching!
Another exceptional video! Thanks🎃
Thank you Brenda! I appreciate you watching!
Always interesting bits of history. Thanks Rhetty!
You're welcome and thank you so much for watching Paul!
Great video as always Rhetty love watching your channel. Love hearing old Oklahoma history since I'm from and still live in Oklahoma myself.
Thank you so much for watching! There is a lot out there to tell. So much of it has been sort of forgotten so I love breathing a little life into it again.
Thanks for another great video
You're welcome and thank you so much watching Ruby!
I have for a long time hated CZcams creators that put long introductions before their videos, or even short intros, I always considered them totally useless and a waste of time. However, I love your intro and can’t wait to see it each time. It is by far the best intro on CZcams, congratulations!
I'm glad you like the intro. I really don't use intros a lot but I knew I would be covering a lot on the old west so I for sure wanted to have one for them. Thank you for watching!
Rhett, thank you for following up on the story of Belle Starr.
Love these old west cemeteries and stories.
Love also the music at the beginning of your western videos.
You're welcome. It definitely is an addition to the last one I released. Hopefully some day I can get permission and access to Frank West who was Sam's cousin. Thank you for watching!
Thanks Rhetty great stories enjoyed it!
You're welcome Joseph and thank you for watching!
Enjoyed the cemetery tour! Thanks again Rhetty! 🇺🇸🚜👍
You're welcome and thank you for watching Tractor!
As always, a very interesting and informative video. Thank you.
You're welcome and thank you so much for watching!
Rhetty it was Nice tot listening to a great story again told by You.
Thank you Ans! I'm glad you enjoyed it and I appreciate you watching!
Thanks Rhett!🌹
You're welcome and thank you for watching Ellen!
Rhetty, this was a real nice presentation. I know it's a year old but I'm going back to catch up on your other videos! I truly wish you would do more cemeteries; you are respectful and you are good at it!
Thank you so much for watching the older ones! I will never be out if the cemeteries. I have a bunch more coming from cemeteries and graves. I enjoy history so I mix in a little of everything!
I love joining you on these cemetery walks, even though I'm in Australia! Thank you.
You're welcome and I'm happy to have you along on the adventures! Thank you for watching!
Great follow up to Belle Starr's story.
Thank you for watching Richard! This is definitely meant to be complimentary to that video.
Bele star it's brawler and sam star it's brawler
Having my own Rhetty Marathon Sunday binge watching. Wondering if I'll ever catch up. Even when I do, I haven't seen one that's not worth coming back for. Great job, great history!
Thank you for binge watching the older ones and I'm glad you are enjoying the videos! There will always be more coming on the channel too!
Vary well done. Thank you for sharing. God bless.
You're welcome and thank you for watching!
Very important history 👏 and thanks for your email xx
You're welcome! I have something coming your way but it may be there a little late. Thank you for always watching and commenting as well as being a Patron!
Lot of history in this small place Great video thankyou for sharing
Yes there is. More than we know and I wish I knew more about those interred there. Thank you for watching!
Nice one Rhett, I enjoyed it!!! Thanks...Peace!!!
Bill
Thank you for watching Bill and I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Hi Rhett 🖐🏼, there's some interesting people buried there. Thanks so much for sharing. Have a great day ‼️🖐🏼👍✔️💯.
Yes there is. I know there are probably a lot more stories in there since there was so much going on. Wish we knew more. Thank you for watching Carole!
@@RhettyforHistory you're welcome Rhett 🖐🏼👍✔️💯.
Great video. Important history. Great job. Thank you
It is important and this family really was in some major events. Thank you for watching and commenting!
You need to take a trip to McAlester see the coal miners Memorial. H.A.Bohrer name on this Memorial.
I do want to do a video on that memorial. I haven't really featured mining in Oklahoma but I need to.
Thank you for doing this video, lots of good old histroy
You're welcome. I know this cemetery has a lot of history in it. I'm sure I panned past some that have some incredible stories but I couldn't find anything on them. Thank you for watching!
Thank you for the tour! My maiden name is Starr and my great grandfather William Alstair Starr was a Methodist preacher. He married a woman of Eastern Cherokee heritage in Bastrop, TX. He may the William in your cemetery...been looking for him!
Mary Anne
Thank you for the video. If my dad were still living he'd appreciate these as he liked Old West history
You're welcome. I'm sure your Dad and I would have gotten along great then. Thank you for watching!
Very cool. Alot of history I never knew. Interesting ty.
Thank you for watching and coming along on the adventure Lisa!
Excellent....Thanks....
You're welcome and thank you for watching!
The Starrs certainly rule this cemetery. Love your intro photos and music too.
Yes they do. I have no idea how many of them are actually in there. Thank you so much for watching Arleen!
Franklin west killed him in a gun fight.
Appreciate that, my father was Jerry Don Barton,, his mother was a Lowery . They were “mixed” in with the Starss’,, She had many stories , even one on how the Starr Cemeteriy was started!!
Wow that would be interesting to know! Sounds like you have a lot of tie ins with this history. Thank you for watching Chad!
I'm glad I had seen the video on Bell Star, giving a good background & understanding of this one & who you are talking about. I so enjoy your videos & the history lesson you provide. Thanks so much, keep them coming. I also appreciate the work & time you must put into them. Best wishes Lynne Victoria Australia 🇦🇺🐨👍🏻🙏🏻💛⭐️💛⭐️💛⭐️💛⭐️💛. Why wasn't Bell Star buried here. I know she's buried on private property near her home but would have been nice if she could have been shifted to be with her family.
Thank you Lynne. I'm glad you had seen Belle's first as well. I'm not sure if she is someone you have ever heard about in Australia. But here she is really up there as one of the most famous people from the Old West. I know Ned Kelly is a big one where you are. Are there any other big ones from that same time period?
RhettyforFun off hand I can't think but it is 2.15am. lol will get back to you. 🇦🇺🐨🙏🏻. Time to try & sleep
Yes you do need that!
Theadore E
Lowrey was. Sargent in the U.S. Army 1st. Calvert Div. He was at first reported missing and then confirmed KIA. May Ted RIP ETERNALLY in God's loving arm's.
Thank you very much for researching him and sharing his story. Absolutely a hero that deserves to be remembered!
Another awesome video Rhett! I have been told that the Tinker buried there at that cemetery is a relative of General Clarence Tinker and I have been told that Clarence Tinker was only one-eighth Osage Indian and had some Cherokee Indian as well on his fathers side, but claimed Osage Indian. Please do not quote me on the information as I have not been able to verify just what I was told. I am friends with a family that is third/fourth cousin to Will Rogers and this is how I was told about General Tinker having some Cherokee Indian in his blood line .
I wasn't sure on General Tinker's bloodline but knew that he was Osage. He has a cenotaph monument in the cemetery but there also other monuments and family members in the cemetery. I figured he was not full Osage but didn't know for sure. I need to go back up there some time and do more stories. Thank you for watching!
Belle's influence was far-reaching!
Yes it was. She crossed paths with some of the biggest names in the Old West. Thank you for watching Jeni!
Great cemetery. Very neat history.
Thank you for watching my friend!
@@RhettyforHistory Of course!
Deleted your channel awhile back in a subscription purge YET I FIND MYSELF HERE😆😆😆. RESUBSCRIBED! Planning on several historic and recreational trips this spring and you will be one of my sources!👍 Here for good!
I'm glad you're back and hope you stick around!
@@RhettyforHistory ABSOLUTELY. I'd forgotten what a pleasant and informative eclectic historical experience your videos are. Just enjoyable stuff! And I am looking for just such stuff to do with my 10 yr old this spring. Road trips, fishing and camping at historical sites in our East Texas area. Great channel.
There is a lot you can do in Texas! It's a great state!
Thanks for saying their name again Rhetty so that they are remembered again
There is a lot of history in that little cemetery. Thank you for watching!
Very interesting Indian and Oklahoma history. That Tom Star was a handsome guy😎Thank you Rhetty for honoring veterans, regardless of what side they fought for.
I think it's the least we can do for any of them. I have a lot of respect for them. Thank you for watching and commenting!
Sam Starr is my 6th cousin. Related trough a many great grandmothers marriage to the Adair family. I'm related to the good, the bad and the ugly and a descendant of the Cherokee George Washington Adair.
Nice ,thank you.
You're welcome and thank you for watching!
Totally amazing! Now I know why my father traveled all over the world and did what he did 👏 he was an amazing person 🤩
Sounds like he was and adventurous man. Thank you for watching!
very nice nostalgic cemetery!
Yes it is. Thank you for watching Ron!
I may be in lock down and in another country, plus I’m 8 months late for this but isn’t it great that I can still go on all your wonderful adventures from the comfort of my lounge room. Had not heard of Sam or Belle Starr very interesting, you know what I’m going to watch next ?
Belle Starr's video! I hate to hear you all are in another lock down over there. I was hoping everyone was pulling out of all this mess.
@@RhettyforHistory yes Belle Starr, I did watch it and left a comment 👍 When it first started we thought this COVID thing would be resolved soon (who were we kidding) it’s getting worse. Hope you and your family stay safe.
Yeah I literally thought it would be 2 weeks to a month. Here we are going on a year and a half later.
Don't know if you ever have been in the upstate of South Carolina, but if you ever make it here and like to take the cemetery walks check out the Old Stone Church in Pendleton.
The old west and Elvis. There's an odd combination. That's interesting. I've obviously heard of Belle Starr, but never really thought about the family around her and what their story was. Sounds like she wasn't the only notorious one in the family tree. I bet you are right about Lowery too. Maybe went missing in action and never recovered. Great to see the cemetery is well taken care of, especially considering how old it is.
Once I get caught up on comments going to do some binge watching. I know there's quite a few new videos.
You're right and the funny thing is Elvis had a real love for the old west as well. I know he was in one western movie where he was unshaven and he really didn't like that. All three of Belle's husbands were outlaws. It's pretty interesting how all these people were driven into a life of crime. Thank hou for watching my friend.
You're right and the funny thing is Elvis had a real love for the old west as well. I know he was in one western movie where he was unshaven and he really didn't like that. All three of Belle's husbands were outlaws. It's pretty interesting how all these people were driven into a life of crime. Thank hou for watching my friend.
Merry Christmas to all of your family 👪 ❤
Thank you Sandy! Merry Christmas to you!
Listening to your dialog about the early Cherokees in Indian Territory and the treaty of 1846 between the two main factions I was reminded of something I read in a book about the battle of Pea Ridge, Arkansas. There were Cherokees in both the Union and Confederate forces. At one time during the battle a Cherokee on the Union side recognized another Cherokee on the Confederate side. He broke rank and started running toward the Confederate troops, when told to get back in rank, he told the commander, I've wanted to kill that SOB for 20 years and today I'm going to do it. Evidently the treaty didn't heal a lot of the animosity of the two sides.
No you're right about that. It created division that is probably still felt today. I haven't heard the story you mentioned but that is interesting. Thank you for watching and sharing that.
Great story
Thank you for watching!
Supposedly my great grandfather danced with Belle Star
That would have been something too!
Been 2 this cemetery nice
It really is a nice one to visit. Thank you for watching!
I am a relative, my grandfather was Harold Star, and his father was Jon Starr.
That is a really neat heritage you have. Thank you for watching!
Amazing history.
Yes it is a great cemetery to visit. Thank you for watching!
Good job on video …Henry Starr is very interesting character..not sure if you have Covered him in the past. I think he is buried in Dewey Oklahoma ..he was killed by a bank manager in Harrison Arkansas during a robbery…Henry also was known to be the first outlaw to rob a bank using automobile..he also was in a silent film once..
Very interesting I appreciate your closing the gate. My ancestors served in the ANV and the Army of Tennessee. They didn't own slaves but saw the Federal troops as invaders as VA had told Lincoln not to send troops through on the way to SC
It's a rough time in American History and the ripples of it are still being felt today. You can't help where you are born and raised. Each side fought for what they believed in and many didn't really understand why though. Just part of war and serving sometimes. But I'm thankful for both sides. Ultimately we did unite. And think of how different things would be if the country had split. Neither side would be as powerful as the U.S. is now. Conflicts such as WW2 would have been very different if we were not United. Thank you for watching!
@@RhettyforHistory yep I agree, VA and NC both voted to remain and when Lincoln made his demands on them went out. The country would be very different if we hadn't had the War. The real change happened as we prepared and fought the Spanish American War. Still until recently we weren't ready for a major war but we could gear up on Supercharge.
A veteran is a veteran in my book. The civil war was more than about slavery. So respect should be observed for the vets
@@npc77107 Mine too, they fought for many different views of the role of the Federal Government.
@@kirkmorrison6131 Absolutely, I agree.
Where is Belle Starr?..Great Work Rhetty..
She is near that same area but on her old property Younger's Bend. I released a video on her just before this one.
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I bet CZcams didn't notify you correctly. Thank you for watching!
My Great Grandfather was Joseph Carl Starr he was cousin to Sam and Henry Starr. Joe was an Oklahoma Outlaw as well.
I know who Sam and Henry are but not Joseph. Do you know of any good sources on him?
@@RhettyforHistory The only good source I know of would be other family members and maybe the Cherokee Heritage Center and Museum in Tahlequah Okla. I know him and my Grand Mother Lilly Starr/Lilly Belle Starr are on the Cherokee roll their.
I would really appreciate any additional information. You or your family would be able to provide.
@@RhettyforHistory Do you have an e-mail?
The Starrs sure served our country, good and bad.Bless them.
Yes they did. It's sort of strange. Thank you for watching.
You should do a pancho villa that's in Mexico durango
I would definitely like to! I have a lot of outlaws and lawmen that I would love to do!
I used to have some friends that were Youngers that lived on the Illinois River. They said they were descended from the Younger brothers. I don't know if where they lived was at Youngers Bend, but the river did bend there.
As far as I know there were never any Youngers who lived at Youngers Bend. It was just simply named in their honor. Kind of like how we see Lincoln Blvd or Martin Luther King Blvd in many cities. Thank you for watching!
@@RhettyforHistory Ok. I wasn't sure. I just know that they lived in the boonies on the river and their name was Younger. Thanks for answering. Stay safe and blessed.
You're welcome and thank you for watching!
Great to see u Rhetty. Hope all is good with u and the family. Stay safe. Booger virus is still every where.
We are doing great here. I'm hoping we can avoid that booger virus. I hope you are doing fine as well. Thank you for watching!
RhettyforFun my daughter seems them at her work every time
See the virus?
Tom Starr is one of my great great great uncles.
I wonder if James Tinker is related to Gen Tinker. I had to fly into Tinker when I came back from Operation Just Cause.
That's a good question. All I could think of was The Osage General Tinker in Pawhuska.
Kinda wishing I had asked my friends, the Starr-Curtis family, if they were of any relationship to the Tom/Sam Starr clan. Little late now, since the last of them died off a few years back.
You never know they might have been. It was a really large family but I have also ran into some that aren't. I always ask if I see that name. Thank you for watching!
You never know they might have been. It was a really large family but I have also ran into some that aren't. I always ask if I see that name. Thank you for watching!
I know how u feel all I was ever told was that Belle Starr was related through marriage ( on my mother's side)
Quantrill's Raiders were not allowed to sign the Oath of Allegiance , because of the Kansas Raid. That is why so many became outlaws. Most changed names and went to Texas and California. The movie Ride with the Devil has some facts right.
Greetings from Blytheville, Arkansas.
Interesting cemetery. I wonder if Sam and Belle would’ve had several children their names might possibly have been Wishuhponna, Ketchafalling, North, Rock, or Coe?
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Thank you so much for watching from Arkansas. It was probably a good thing they never had kids.
Thank you so much for watching from Arkansas. It was probably a good thing they never had kids.
I'm related to Tom Starr but never got any details as my family rarely ever talked about their family past
Tom was my uncle.... Decendent of the Starr and Adair bloodline. Nancy Ward was our grandmother when Caleb Starr married Nancy Harlan. Pretty crazy to think the devils own was the same blood as the beloved women of the Cherokees!
There are Starr family members who live here in Tucson AZ. Yes, they’re related to Belle but I’m not sure how.
Very interesting! It really was a large family though. Thank you for watching Sally!
Hogs or armadillos? Armadillos are digging little holes in my hay fields. About 4" in diameter.
Looked like too much damage for an armadillo. I didn't show all of it but it was pretty widespread.
RIP 🙏
Death comes to all, the good and the bad, the right and the wrong. The way they are treated in their respective resting places says allot about the people that come after them.
There is a book in our towns Library about stand watie. And in this book there are some stories about some of the people you are telling us about in this video. There is a building in my town that used to be a boarding school. Stand watie's daughter went to school there in the 1800 s. Thank you so much for sharing this video and teaching us about Oklahoma history and its people.
You're welcome. I'm curious which people were mentioned in the book and what town you're speaking of as well. Sounds like a place I may need to look into for a story. Thank you for watching!
@@RhettyforHistory I wish I could remember the name of the book and the author's name also. I live in Berryville Arkansas so I'm not real sure why we have so many books about Indian Territory and people like Belle Starr and Sam Starr and stand watie. But I'm glad that we do have them because they are very interesting to read. I used to live in Siloam Springs Arkansas and West Siloam Springs Oklahoma. And where I lived in West Siloam Springs, some of the Outlaws raise through that area and there is a cemetery somewhere near where I lived where stand watie is supposed to be buried. I never did go to that Cemetery though. You asked for some of the names and that book. Some of the stars were mentioned and there was a u.s. marshal that came after stand watie. he was wanted for an incident that happened at the courthouse in Tahlequah. I believe Sam Bass was also mentioned in that book. I know that some of the Stars there in that Cemetery and along with Belle Starr hung out and around a town that is south of Siloam Springs. I really do not remember the name of the , there are some pictures in that book. the only thing left in that town or of that town it's a building that used to be a school that is privately owned now buy some people that made it into their house. at least that's all I remember being there last time I was through there. I wish I could remember more names that were in that book maybe I can check it out of the library again and let you know. sorry I'm not much help but my memory isn't what it used to be. may I ask where you're from in Oklahoma? I grew up in Oklahoma City that moved to Arkansas in 1977. and I'm learning more history about Oklahoma then I ever did when I was living there. you would make a good history teacher sir.
I am in Oklahoma City. I have always been fascinated with Old West history and so much of it happened in Oklahoma. And because of that a lot of it is in Arkansas as well. I love breathing life into these old and forgotten stories. I have a lot more to cover in Tahlequah and the Cherokee. Stand is one I definitely want to cover.
@@RhettyforHistory I agree with you about the history in Oklahoma and Arkansas. I grew up in Oklahoma City I graduated from Northwest Classen High School. I moved to Arkansas in 1977.
Lot of history on the old west right where you were at too.
When I was growing up our sheriffs name was Dave Starr. Wonder if was kin to these
It could be. That would be interesting to know. Thank you for watching!
Wow I know a Richard Starr here in Dallas is from Oklahoma ., I wonder ? And he is a Native American and he almost looks like Tom Starr a little .,
He could be a relative. This is a pretty large family. Thank you for watching!
I wonder if bart starr who was QB for the packers is a distant descendant.
I personally think we need to leave who is worthy of honor to the man upstairs.
I agree. It is not our place to make those calls. It is why I try to feature everyone and tell their story if I can. Thank you for watching!
When his time comes, will "Ringo Starr" be buried there? LOL! Didn't Sam and his gang try to rob two banks at the same time in Stroud, OK when a 17 year-old shot and wounded him? That was an interesting story in its own right. The kid who shot him was criticized about it I read, which is strange because it was before FDIC insurance. The kid grew up and was the father of one of the first Flying Tigers pilot who helped out in China against the Japanese.
Is there an online article of that story you are mentioning? That does sound fascinating but I have not heard of that incident. Sam died in 1886 and I can't imagine there being two banks there then. Might not have even been one as the town was formed in the 1890's. Could this be a story of Henry Starr? That is a relative of Sam's.
Us confederate descendants thank you.
Definitely makes sense after how your family sided as you mentioned.
I have a question u say Sam Star is buried here in this cemetery so tell me something I live in roland oklahoma and there is a outlaw by the name of Sam Star who is buried in roland oklahoma cemetery so can you explain that to me it even says on his tombstone that he was assassinated
That is interesting. I have not heard of this Sam Star but I see on his marker where it does say assassinated and he was married to Nancy. It's certainly in the Cherokee Territory but the last name is spelled different. It does make me wonder if he is a relative of this Samuel Starr. Do you by chance any more history on this one in your town?
Sam star and bele star it's brawlstars brawlers