Romans 9 Scholar Commentary Series - Part 1
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- Part 1 in a series where I go through the scholarly opinions on Romans 9... find out where you fall on the hottest theological debate on Unconditional Election!
Here's the link to the recent full debate I did with Dan Chapa • The Great Romans 9 Deb...
13:29 One issue with this, admittedly very concise, summation is its glaring absence of Paul’s major theme that the Gentiles have now been included into God’s kingdom invitation. And directly invited.
17:08 Its not about election. Unless you understand that Paul is teaching that God elects everyone. If you understand that, then fine, Paul is correcting the Jews’ errant doctrine of election that taught God only elected some people, themselves, and he is fixing it by teaching that there are actually no unelect people. Then in that way, yes, it’s about election. But that’s still a stretch.
31:59 In Romans 8 Paul is concluding his message of Gentile inclusion by announcing Al of the amazing blessings that have now come to the Gentiles directly. The same blessings that the Jews already had through their forefathers. And when Paul preached this in the past he knew this was the most incendiary thing he taught. It elicited the most violent responses from his Jewish audiences. And that’s what spurs him as he turns to Romans 9.
16:55 Romans 9 is Paul’s responses to the objections he has received from (furious? murderous?) unbelieving Jews throughout his ministry.
Perhaps, but just as critical was the majority of his audience of gentiles who jeered the Jews as they had such an ironic turn toward poverty. I’m not sure we can say for sure as either is speculative. I’ve seen it written both ways in the literature. It seems that an emphasis on either to the exclusion of one of the groups is a mistake. We’ll address the interlocutors at length at v14 as well as v19 :)
@@ReformedlyGuy Totally disagree that it’s speculative. He is certainly moving to address all of the unbelieving Jews’ objections.
And you’ll have to point to some sources because I don’t think anyone, or at least hardly anyone teaches that the Gentiles were jeering the Jews. That’s just not a thing. Not now, and not then.