Romans 9 Scholar Commentary Series - Part 2
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- Romans 9 Scholar Commentary Series - Part 2
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Let's get into the weed on Romans 9:6!!
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29:00 I disagree. Chapter 11 is more Paul’s actual argument. Chapter 9 is his rebuttal of errant Jewish theology. It’s not in informative, but it’s a side issue not a main point.
13:30 There’s no issue explaining 1-5. After explaining all of the blessings that have come to the Gentiles in chapter 8, Paul turns to answering the unbelieving Jews that would have been seething at his message in 8, and Paul now defends his argument against them in chapter 9.
Pauls first words are in defense of his character. He recounts that he does not hate his own people. He is not a “Gentile-lover.” He concurs that the Jews have all the enumerated blessings.
However, contained within verses 1-5 are two striking statements that get missed by Gentile readers.
In verse 3, Paul relates himself to Moses. What’s striking about this is that Moses led his people, the Jews, out of slavery from the reviled Egyptian Pharaoh in probably the best loved story of the Jews. But in the current context, if Paul is Moses, “his people” would now actually be the Gentiles! This would have been a severe statement in the Jews’ eyes. What’s more, the Jewish leaders who were arguing that the Gentiles could NOT be let into God’s kingdom would then, by allegory, be the Pharaoh’s of the story!!! What an insult!
Secondly, in verse 5 Paul adds one extra blessing that the Jews would have also seethed at: the Messiah. They did not believe Jesus was the Messiah. They know they played a part in his crucifixion. So for Paul to add Jesus into the list of blessings would have driven the Jews mad!
So, verse 6 is Paul’s first foray into countering the unbelieving Jews’ arguments here in chapter 9. Paul’s message is that the Gentiles are not unelect, as the Jews taught, but they also are elect. The Jews hated that teaching and among their chief arguments was the objection that the Gentiles could never be invited by God directly, Yahweh is the God of the Jews and if a Gentile we’re to be called/invited by God it would mean the Gentile would need to become a part of Israel, become a Jew in order to partake in God’s invitation. The argument is that God is only for the Jews so the Gentiles must become Jewish.
Paul’s first counter argument here in verse 6 is, ‘if you Jews think God only is for Israel and not the nations, do you not know your own history? Are you yourselves even one of God’s Jews? Who are you to say that God cannot choose the Gentiles also, because if it really were the case that God was only for the Jews then it wouldn’t include any of you, all of you have rejected his Son and so have rejected God, and the OT teaches all Jews who reject God are themselves cast out!’
13:30 There’s no issue explaining 1-5. After explaining all of the blessings that have come to the Gentiles in chapter 8, Paul turns to answering the unbelieving Jews that would have been seething at his message in 8, and Paul now defends his argument against them in chapter 9.
Pauls first words are in defense of his character. He recounts that he does not hate his own people. He is not a “Gentile-lover.” He concurs that the Jews have all the enumerated blessings.
However, contained within verses 1-5 are two striking statements that get missed by Gentile readers.
In verse 3, Paul relates himself to Moses. What’s striking about this is that Moses led his people, the Jews, out of slavery from the reviled Egyptian Pharaoh in probably the best loved story of the Jews. But in the current context, if Paul is Moses, “his people” would now actually be the Gentiles! This would have been a severe statement in the Jews’ eyes. What’s more, the Jewish leaders who were arguing that the Gentiles could NOT be let into God’s kingdom would then, by allegory, be the Pharaoh’s of the story!!! What an insult!
Secondly, in verse 5 Paul adds one extra blessing that the Jews would have also seethed at: the Messiah. They did not believe Jesus was the Messiah. They know they played a part in his crucifixion. So for Paul to add Jesus into the list of blessings would have driven the Jews mad!