10-8 Performance Lab, Episode 41: Staccato XC, First Impressions
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
- Hilton Yam of 10-8 Performance gives a first look at his Staccato XC.
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This is the best informative video I've seen about the staccato xc pistol and I thank you sir! I love the comparison with all the other pistols on how flat they shoot!
Yet another very informative and unbiased video! Thank you!! Also the guitar before and between segments is awesome!!!!
Thank you for the breakdown of muzzle rise between the XC, P, & Glocks. Very Helpful!
Nice video keep them coming perfect amount of technical info without reading a spec sheet
Thanks for compare it to the Staccato P, exactly what I'm looking for.
Just ordered my first staccato P yesterday looking forward to receiving it. Your information is greatly appreciated the education is a huge benefit to somebody that’s never owned a 2011 or a 1911 for that matter.
You won’t be disappointed! I love mine!
Nice review as always. Would be interested in a video on the trigger replacement - definitely interested in what you come up with for spring replacement.
Great comparison video
I like it.
Can't afford it.
But I like it.
Just have to settle for a P for the wife, and C2 for myself.
Yep on this issue at 9:17 I have seen other reviewers demonstrate the slide not closing on the XC due to the spring, they were literally pushing the slide closed after shooting several rounds.
Useful review 👍
Great video - thanks!
Great review. Would like to hear about the spring and how you "fixed" that. And also if the pistol performed better after a break in when it came to the pistol being dirty and the slide release not working as you liked. Thank you.
Thanks great review
Awesome! i have an XC, XL and P and i feel the Xc is the flattest as far as the recoil of the 3.
duh, it has a compensator
Another great video! But we need to buy you a real high-speed camera setup!
Could you please do a video on the ultra low optics plate for the Staccato pistol made by Ch precision works and the site co-created with you? Am contemplating sending one of mine in to have the hold drilled and the plate mounted. Am curious if it really makes a difference. Thank you!
I want a staccato Xc after having one in my hands at the great American outdoorsman show
thanks for the video
now time for an XL video!
Sorry, no plans to do so.
Very nice gun.
can you do a video or provide suggestion on cleaning the comp
You need to do a review of your guitar pedals. Overdrive, delay, EQ, distortion?
I wished I watched this video first before ordering lasconcealment holster. For some reason your IWB holster review video doesn't have these discount code.
What company makes those cool stands like the one behind him on the counter?
Some footage shows the black Staccato magwell but other footage shows what looks to be the Dawson Precision Ice magwell in silver. Is this true? If so, how did you get it to fit your Gen 2 grip? I am looking for a silver magwell for my C2.
Since you mentioned that the spring weight of the staccato XC is only 8 pounds. I installed a Range 18 compensator to my p226 and I heard that ideal spring weight is 8 Lbs to work it out with that compensator so I bought a tuning kit recoil spring from Armory craft however it only comes with 12, 16, 18, and 24 Lbs. Where can I buy such spring?
What brand of gloves are being worn in the video?
Always great reviews by the way. When I go to Florida. Do you offer gunsmith services? I want to install that trigger on my Staccato P and that metal grip you have on the video.
Sorry no gunsmithing. It’s not a metal grip.
Great Review - thoughts on the DVC P vs the XC? Are there any major internal updates/upgrades to XC that make it better than the DVC P?
Other than the obvious external differences in the slide cuts and comp ports, they're the same gun and I feel that in general people have assigned to much value to the name change and cosmetic updates.
Are you shooting regular factory ammo or Plus P ammo with that compensator or does it matter? Most reviews I have seen on compensated guns require slow burring power rounds
Factory 115/124/147. It’s a 9mm and people over think the comp situation. It’s not a .38 Super running Major loads where there’s a ton of high pressure gas in a 7 port comp. A 9mm can run a single port.
Is there any difference between it and the DVC P or Omni? I lucked up and got a late model Omni that had the DVC P comp. is it worth upgrading?
You won't notice a difference between the DVC P, Omni, or XC.
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How hard is the compensator on the fiber optic rod in the front sight? In the Sage Dynamics video his was melted. I had a ported S&W 629 6.5" that would blow the fiber optic rod out of the front sight every 24 rounds or so.
No factor, but I’m not doing a 500 rd burn down either.
@@108Performance I wondered if that had something to do with it......
Does the XC have anything beyond the P DUO besides the comp and island sight ? Like for 2,000 extra is the only thing I get is a light trigger, and a comp? Not that is not worth 2k just asking if there is any better finishing than the P DUO version, like any hand finishing or barrel to slide match ? Highly considering either gun just deciding between the two as I’m not a super comp fan. But its a beautiful fire arm. I love the integration of the comp and full dust cover.
The comp is kind of a big deal in terms of manufacturing expense, as covered in the video. If you don't like the idea, then don't get one. You'll be plenty happy with the P. By the way, ALL the guns are hand finished at each manufacturing stage, and the barrels ARE matched to the slides.
@@108Performance thank you for the reply, your content is excellent and has been greatly appreciated in researching my purchase.
Serious question where can I buy an extended single stack magazine for my staccato c
Wilson Combat
Can you please do a video on how to field strip the XC ??
Same as on here: czcams.com/video/TbvrvAEjDrw/video.html
How is that magwell I have staccato p with the same gen 2 grip and want a magwell is it worth it?
I have the Dawson Precision mag well and it’s awesome!! Do it!!
Can you do a video of the xl. Not much Info out there on it compared to the other models
It’s a low seller and has no presence in the duty pistol market so I have no plans to purchase one for review.
Is it possible to replace the spring with a stronger more durable one?
You run the spring that functions best in the gun and replace it when it's worn. Springs are cheap, guns are expensive.
Would you possibly consider doing a field strip video for the staccato XC ? I’m a subscriber and I just wanted to share that there are no CZcams videos on field stripping it ?
I purchased one a little over a week ago, and I have over 500 rounds through it, I would love some visual help . Thanks in Advance!!
Hi did you change your trigger pull weight By changing the main housing Spring To a higher pound weight from 15lb to 17 or 19!? Thanks
No, the MSH spring doesn't affect it that much. It requires adjustment to the sear spring. You may want to watch the relevant chapter in my 1911 Duty Tune DVD set.
@@108Performance okay thanks will do!
Where can I purchase the gloves you are wearing in this video? Thanks and love the video!!
PIG Full Dexterity Tactical (FDT) Delta Utility Gloves on Amazon.
Thank u
Great content as always. Didn’t you say that a 10-8 flat trigger is coming for the staccato or am I dreaming sh$t up? If it’s a real project, would appreciate an update.
There are currently no plans to make a 2011 trigger.
When are going to do a Staccado XL video?
No plans
Did you record the intro music? And ...another great video, by the way.
Yes and thanks
You are a master of guns and guitars... gotta love it!
Hi on cheely website I only see short flat and medium flat ont medium short flat witch one of the is in your staccato xc? Thanks for the information brother 👍
Medium flat but it’s probably moot as he’s not had any in stock for over a year.
@@108Performance ohh okay thanks for getting back to me brother 👍
@@108Performance I seen some on Dawson precision's website Were they easy to install or should it be installed by gunsmith
@@tymarkham3931 my rule of thumb: if you have to ask, be safe and use a smith
@@108Performance okay yeah I seen someone else had to do some fitting on there's!
How about reviewing this against the new Atlas Gunworks Artemis v2 , yes I know there is a price difference, I want to know which shoots flatter and any performance differences. Its down to these two guns that I am choosing between. I have shot the Staccato P but not the XC. The Atlas has grip panel options to custom fit your hand better, tons of options for the trigger size and shape, 2.5 or 4lbs trigger pull option, locking and no lock slide stop mags, the magwell comes in three sizes and NO damn grip safety
Grip safeties are awful.
The atlas is a far better gun. Simple as that. Save some money (crazy thought) going with the Staccato you could put into some minimal gunsmithing and ammo.
I own the Staccato because I couldn’t justify spending an additional $2k on an already outrageously priced gun.
I would also be interested what you come up with for a spring replacement. I bought a XC a few months ago and have only put 400 rounds through it. I did find if you get up on the slide with your finger it will cause issues. I was shooting 115g and 124g. I know in the Sage Dynamics video he was having that same problem with the slide not going forward as normal there was some hesitation.
I sent mine back to Staccato today having a issue the slide will not go back into battery without hitting the back on the slide. There customer service is very good and I know they will get it sorted out,
Is this something you would consider for a daily carry?
Are you running a gas peddle? Wouldn’t that account for the recoil difference?
Does it look like either gun has a has a has pedal!
@@justinboss4212 looks like the XC does. Maybe it’s the way the thumb of the glove is sitting. Don’t remember any shots of the gun when he was not holding it.
Ok I see it’s the padding of the glove. That’s why you ask questions I guess lol.
@@tazoriginal except when it’s in the background literally the entire video though right? Lol
@@mikediesel2991 except when watching 2 games and have it playing in the background and the only time you look up is when the shooting starts! You watch how you watch I watch how I watch. I could understand if I came for him I asked a question and when I had a chance to go back and look I made it clear it was a mistake on my part. Thx
You may not be able to buy skill, but you sure can buy performance.
MY P DUO IS COMPENSATED,WORKS GREAT.
Was wondering how it is compensated? Did you add a comp to your P Duo?
@@bravelion2009 Yes,i added it. i just got one on ebay from tacfan123,its nice for the price.
Too rich for my blood at $7000 CAD. Especially for plinking at a range. For what is essentially just a "flatter shooting gun". Than a gun that isn't compensated...though I wonder...would a heavier non-compensated gun weighing in at around 42 oz e.g. steel frame 1911 do the same thing? Even better the XC?
Price point especially in CAD, isn't for everyone, I get that. More weight won't equal performance of a compensator.
I don’t like when people buy a 4 thousand dollar gun and then go making changes it’s almost disrespectful this gun is perfect as is
First!
no reason this gun should be over 3k, 4500 for a gun with a polymer grip is a fuckin joke.
Garbage into music.... its not a 1990s Wislon Combat commercial. Guitar feedback is lame.
Thanks for the feedback. I’ll make sure to play a more modern intro in future episodes. I’m sure your channel has better music. I’m so sorry.
@geebeaux Did your husband forget to pack your lunch for you, today?
I like cool guns, but that is just an overpriced gun for showing off purposes, it don't make anyone any deader. It does have all the features I like in a gun but even if I won the lottery I'd pass on it.
Could you please do a video on the ultra low optics plate for the Staccato pistol made by Ch precision works and the site co-created with you? Am contemplating sending one of mine in to have the hole drilled and the plate mounted. Am curious if it really makes a difference. Thank you!
Yes, in the plan. The plate is vastly superior to the factory option in getting the whole setup lower to the slide and most of all getting the irons out of the middle of the optic window.