E-bike Motor spinning - wheel not turning
Vložit
- čas přidán 16. 07. 2019
- After replacing a faulty controller it turned out I could hear the motoring spinning inside the hub but the wheel would not move. So I went online to look for a solution. I couldn't find anything on YT that addressed my specific problem so I searched forums. I was able to find one with the perfect solution.
Note: My math is a little rusty. There's actually 9 combinations of wire connections.
www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/thre... - Zábava
this was my exact issue! saved me from much headache and waiting. hooked it up like you and now it spins forward! thank you sir.
Thanks guy! I had the same problem and first thought it was something major. Found your video, then after some trial-and-error, I was able to connect the motor wires correctly to get the wheel turning. You likely saved me many hours and a lot of frustration. I owe you a beer!
I know this post is old but helped me figure out my issue. The color combination you have in this video helped me out. It was fine till I took my motor off to change the clutch and then , I hear it run but the wheel did not spin. So thanks I don't know if you will see but, I appreciate it. 😊
Glad it helped. Yeah I get emails every time someone comments. Glad people are still finding it useful.
Saved my bacon in 2022.
I'm quite a seasoned ebiker (built my own battery etc) but my mate asked me to to fix his battery and update his controller.
Job sorted but none of the wires were plug and play.
Anyway.. It all worked fine and dandy but couldn't get the lights / horn working.
So instead of "bodge twisting" the wires together after I sussed part of the lights issue (got the rear & brake light working) I decided to take the controller off and solder it on my workbench.
You know what's coming next don't you !!
Yup, after connecting it all up it made a heck of a growl and then just span as per your description.
The blue & green are pretty faded so I might have mixed them up and the controller lost memory.
Watched you vid and tried it. It worked as single speed but noisy so I reconnected again the correct way and put it into learning mode.
Success
Was beginning to think I was going to have to buy him an new ebike !! (Trail - G)
Anyway.. Thanks.
Anyone got any tips on how to make the poxy horn & front light work ?
czcams.com/video/jLWOC16KjmY/video.html
Please post how you "built a battery"
Many thanks. This was indeed helpful, as I had exactly the same problem after buying a new controller. (In my case, yellow to yellow was correct, but the blue and green needed to be swapped over.) This tip certainly saved me a load of time, as I was just about to strip down the motor in search of some kind of centrifugal clutch! 😅
Thanks man. I got the same problem and used your wire combination. Now throttle works.
Well thx for the video it helped a lot after a full day of trying out all the other potential issues. You combination did not work for me , but another one did.
My yellow,blue ,green was mirrored in the opposing direction, green blue yellow.
The comment of the motor running but the wheel not turning had me perplexed.
My issue was the wheel was not turning but was locked solid ,vibrating loudly and could not be turned by hand , the coils must have been triggered out of sequence and were fighting one another. I had something similar happen to a washing machine once when a positional sensor went bad. Its like it was having a seizure.
Fixed my similar problem. Was running backwards. Thank you.
Thanks for explanation it helped a lot...but later I learned that if you connect those two white wires(short them), it will adjust the phase angle by itself, if possible make another video explaining the same.
Today you save my life. jaja thank you from Argentina..
Perfectly fixed the exact problem I was having. Thank you thank you thank you
Your welcome. It works for some but not everybody I guess. Glad it worked for you.
Thanks!! for the information, it was the first video I saw and the problem solved.. what a quick solution,
Thanx a lot! I did rewire before but i did it wrong and after your video its all perfect now!
Heaving Dane problem ..thank you much for taking time to make your helpful video it was very helpful I got my feature hey bike going again thanks to you
Your welcome
Gives me something to try. Thanks for the suggestion. Great video
Thank you . Just needed the different combination also
Thanks it worked, keep up the good work.
Many thanks it saved me alot of time and money
Defo a legend. Thank you so much!
Wow that was really HELPful!
Very helpful video.
Thanks alot
You sir are a legend 🤟🤟
Life saver, had the exact same issue. Thanks
Thanks very much you sir are a genius 💯 I was losing my mind this my first ever e-bike and I wanted to do it all myself learning as I go next up BRAKES pray for me
🙏
same problem same fix thank for your video
Thanks you so much for this video!!
Thank you the video very help me
Thank you so much you will help me a lot
It's worked for me thank you so much
You are a star thankyou I had to do the same . Cheers mate
Bugger me it worked..thankyou soooooo much
It did work for me too, thanks
You are the man thanks
I had the same problem thank you soo much
Thank you so much for video i have this problem
I LOVE YOU, THANK YOU!!!
Thanks bro ..I was having the same problem
Thank you for the quick and easy video it's what we all die for in the need of help.. can everyone give this guy a subscribe for the simplicity. Thank you
Thanks for the kind words
It's all good matey, I appreciate the simply videos from your self no over explanation just what we all need to hear..
Thank you hommie have a fanatic day and keep slaying
You are a genious my friend
I wish
Same problem
Same solutions
Thank u
THANK YOU SO MUCH
Thanks a million.
Some people got confused, this video is for installing new controller, if the phases wires doesent work properly (motor spining but the wheel not) when match the same colors, then swap them till you find the right combination, but if your bike just suddenly the wheel stop turning and the motor spining, then you meed new controller, or in my case new motor because the inside the motor got damaged when i drove the bike throught the curve and the rear wheel got slamed from the top of the curve to the botom, when i was riding it, i didnt know that cauld damage rhe motor assambly.
Thanks 🙏
Hi I have an onyx rcr QSmotor the wheel locked up and won’t spin after a hurricane water was above the wheel but it turns on and throttle shows voltage when turning but no movement .idk if the motor is bad or something else
Mine Works perfect now !
That was it. Thank you
please which cable wires for display and which display i can use here , thank you
Thank you.
Your welcome
Hello, i have the same problem and i have inverted the wire as your indication but not solved. Do you have inverted also the wires of hall sensor?
I didn't. If you're still having problems you might want to try what "spinnanz" suggests below. It's something I wasn't aware of.
@@rlachermeier thanks a lot :)
Do you know what the connector grouped with the Blue, Yellow, and Green wires is? And why it has to be unplugged? On my controller when it’s plugged in the motor doesn’t spin.
I don't believe mine are connected to anything
@@rlachermeier Yeah I looked it up and it’s related to pedal assist. I don’t have it on my bike, so I don’t need it plugged in.
same here now to figure out how to save P settings and they appear different ...ugh BUT Thyanks for this as it fixed my issue of wheel not turning. used same sequence as you show here was color for color match.
UPDATE, if you open controller you will likely find wires are soldered in wrong location. Maybe color bling QA worker on the lose in china LOL
I love you!!!
You are a life saver, man! My e-bike went backwards after the controller change. Changed everything to match the colors.... still backwards... Then did what you did and now it's good! HOWEVER it's much weaker than wen it went backwards. Any idea on that?
Not sure about the strength. Not really an expert on these.
Did you also change hall wires?
That controller has a "learn" wire (you can see it in the video). This can be used to choose wheel direction.
I did not know that.
@@rlachermeier it's the 2 single green wires each with a plug. To change direction, join them together and then power it up. Each time the unit up powered up with the wires connected it changes the motor direction. When the motor direction is correct, you disconnect them.
Yep. Just momentarily connect the 2 wires and problem solved - no need to faff around swapping phase wires.
Thank you so much
You're welcome
@@rlachermeier i purchased a new hub motor affter making all connections motor spinning but weel not
Then i thought motor is defective 😂😂
After watching your video it's worked perfectly 😀👍
Thank you agin
U guys are too funny!!! Hey do you see those two green wires in the back their called smart identification wires their a key connection to helping your hallo sensors find the right phases to rotate the right direction. It just a process of connecting then un connecting... That's what's does green wires do.
Thanks so so so much...i was pulling my hair...it has worked.
Your mistake is assuming the motor was actually spinning. It's not spinning lol, just making the noise caused by PWM
Another issue you can get by hooking up the phase wires the wrong way is the motor spinning backwards.
It was spinning. A geared hub motor has freewheeling for when bike coasts.
grace a toi jai pu reparer mon velo le meme soucis merci bcp :)
When getting motor problem in Controller like 3 motor wire so what should we do?
Have you used a tester like shown in the beginning part of the video?
It must be my English but how can the motor be SPINNING and the wheel no TURNING? This is a hub motor inside the wheel so either both are turning (spinning?) or both not.
That's what I would have thought? But if you don't have the wires hooked up correctly the motor makes a spinning sound without the wheel moving. I wish I would have recorded it before I fixed the problem.
It is likely because it is a geared motor and is prevented from turning the bike wheel in reverse while running. Watch this guy's very detailed video on bike controller installation:
czcams.com/video/PuwnFMHHtaE/video.html
Having the same problem. Planetary gears were stripped in motor, replaced for new thought that would fix it but now the horrible crunchy noise is replaced with the whirring of the motor and no wheel movement. Going to have a go at this fix 🤞
Changing the phase wires works i guess but it is the incorrect solution to the problem, those brain power controllers need to be trained to work correctly and to do that you connect that single green wire together and then power up the bike this will make the controller enter training mode where it attempts to spin the motor in so doing learn the motor so that it runs optimally, sometimes however they come set for direct drive hubs which spin the oposit way to the motor in a geared hub and so the motor spins the wrong way and does not spin the wheel, the correct way to fix this is to pull the throttle during the training phase and this tells the controller to switch the direction
I think I'm going to try this when I pull it out of storage this spring. Thanks!
It worked for me when I tried swapping wires they worked with multiple combination, but I am having new problem now, the bike doesn't accelerate as it was, when I ride it and accelerate it will stall couple of times before moving off, any help ?
Sorry never experienced that issue. Don't really know to trouble shoot that one. Sorry
That was that problem that i had.. thank dude . Appreciate it
TY BOSS NAG WORK HEHE
It’ working after a few combinations
It’s looks like different companies have different combinations
That's what I've heard from several people
My scooter came with the blue and the green wires swapped.i intended to open the controller and rearrange the wires when I got time to do so.
On that new controller? What is the name of those connectors and maybe please do you have a link to share where I can get them ? I cannot find them ? Please I need then to connect mine ?
The battery connector is a "Dean's" I'm not sure about the others. The battery connector you can get at a hobby store. Not sure about the rest.
@@rlachermeier you dont know what the connectors on the A. B. C. wires are ?
@@anio6865 I believe those are called "bullet" connectors
I check out the link you had to look at the combinations. Where are they located? I don’t see anything in the thread you link? Can you list the combinations please. I’m sure it would help more than me. Don’t see anything.
/Bklyn👑
B b
G g
Y y
B b
Y g
G y
G b
B g
Y y
G b
Y g
B y
Y b
B g
G y
Y b
G g
B y
Thank you for this!!!!!!
My e bike has this same problem I have a super 73 and the front tire just doesn’t turn
it wasnt phase it was your learning wires
You're on the Ron Swanson piramid. Please and Thank you 😃
I never mess with my Connection It started grinding a little bit every once in a while Then it all out, quit, grabbing. The motor still spins inside, but That's about it
WOW⚡⚡⚡⚡👌👌👌👌👌👏👏👏👏⭐⭐⭐⭐
Hahaha crapola that was my problem now too same wire combo..
They say there’s 6 different combinations, but don’t tell you the other combinations.
BLUE BLUE
BLUE YELLOW
BLUE GREEN
YELLOW BLUE
YELLOW YELLOW
YELLOW GREEN
GREEN BLUE
GREEN YELLOW
GREEN GREEN
@@rlachermeierthanks will try tomorrow
36K miles on my ebike now with only one issue... a faulty controller. It took about 30 mins. to swap it out and I have never had another issue.
When I started my build I wanted the best all-around ebike possible with the focus on maximum range and the ability to carry/pull hundreds of pounds of gear. So far I haven't seen anything that comes close. Stay safe.
If you want to see the bike and the process of building it leave a note on one of my videos since this "channel" doesn't allow links.
hello there, what's your kit/brand u used? where did u get it from? link would be great. thanks
@@KraszkoAlmos27 Hey Álmos, I tried to leave links but a lot of YT channels won't allow the use of them. I'm sure it's hard to have people showing a better way to do something on your own video. I haven't seen a production ebike I would buy yet. My bike frame is a Tout Terrain Panamericana with a BaFang BBSHD connected to a Roloff Speedhub. If you contact me on one of my videos I can give you some links and pictures of the whole process. It's surprisingly easy to have a great ebike.... nothing at all like you see in this video. Stay Safe.
No hate but THATS WHAT THE "SELF LEARNING WIRE" IS FOR!
Never heard of "self learning wire"
@@rlachermeier two thin wires usually white when you clip them together the motor spins in the direction you want
@@gerardjachymiak5822 some motors don't have it or have it but not working properly. I do have the self l wire but only coming out from the controller and my motor does not have it.
Supara sir
ti do 2 birre
ruined my battery
😮 first time I've heard that
You do know there is 36 combination
You have only found one combination what is wrong.
You can't just change the phase wires you need to change the Hall sensor wires aswell.
You need to find the correct combination or it won't run properly.
Not only that it can cause damage & lose speed.
I can 100% guaranteed you have Wired that controller wrong.
Just because the wheel is turning the right way.
It doesn't mean it's the correct combination.
The timing will be off
Thank you so much...
Реально работает Красава я бы не подумал