Ancheer Electric Bicycle Hub Motor PROBLEM - FIX AKA Eshion Cyclamatic
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Thanks, this has saved me a whole head f--k trying to work out whats going on. nearly bought new planetery gears and clutch, then ordered complete 500w motor instead. now i can repair my 250w and hopefully keep the rest of the fleet on the road. Subscribed
There used to be a Rolls Royce aircraft engine factory near me .The glue they used was incredible for the windings etc. Try and find a good electrical engineering workshop and ask the guys what is best .Nice video Educational.
Thank you so much I need to get in my motor and service it and I was about to remove the gears with that special socket . Saved me a lot of headaches.
Awesome
I'm looking into working at a electric bike service shop and the first thing I wanted to know was how to service the motors. Well thx for the video, that helped a bunch :)
Awesome job...
My motor studder/ hesitation problem was a cheap half twist throttle. Replaced with a throttle and hand grip all in one and mine works perfectly now
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THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
I had no idea. I did not know how to fix this
That's awesome. Glad it helped
Great video. thanks for sharing. I haven't used my electric bike much but feel better that if there is a problem I can address it even if it is the motor.
Hi guy! Thank you very much for your video, it’s very helpful!🤗
Thank you so much for posting such a helpful video. I have the same issue after about 1K miles or so. I am not sure if I should take all the magnets out and use epoxy, or just try to use the simple method you posted. I will probably end up using your method and go with CA glue. I am guessing the CA glue will last another 1000 miles or so, but worth a try. epoxy seems to be much hassle for now. Thank you.
Did the glue hold up over a year? Any improvement after gluing it?
Thanks so much for this upload; couldn't figure why I was getting hub noise on start-up; sure enough the magnets were loose, this was on a Richbit...Hate that name, 250W 36V bike after about 5000km, it'll probably keep happening I guess, how did your repair pan out in the end? Did you have to use any other type of glue after this for example. Cheers.
What were the symptoms that showed to know thi a was the problem. Did it have any binding when pushed or does it shut down because of the magnets? Also what do you think caused it?
Sorry, I'm very new to the ebike world.
T Y for this video ,,, what do you think caused the wound copper wires to discolor viewed in the video ? Could the motor have over heated discoloring the 3 copper wire coils , and that heat melt the magnet glue bond ? I read that the super glue will melt / debond at 100o C . Also that a water based glue can take the heat better , even silicone glue can take the heat better , too . So BTW how is the Super Glue holding up ?
I have a natko green one , and the rear hun makes odd clicking noises , video was very helpful, because your rear hub is similar to mine
Did that fix it?
Thank you so much for posting. Can you tell me the name of the place where you actually purchased cable. Thank you so much
Much appreciated video, thanks
Thank you very much for the video 👍
Thanks, what was the problem that you notice? Any noice or motor weak or?
I have another problem, I was wondering if you can help me with my ebike. It's a snugger from ridel. I recently had a crash with it, I manage to change the motor and bypassed the PAS(I pretty much have it disconnected) because of the Error 30. I manage to get rid of the Error 30 but now the motor won't go with the throttle. I know the throttle works because I used it on a different bike and it works fine. The walk assist works perfectly but now my issue is the motor won't run when I press the throttle. I'm pretty sure the electrical side of the bike is perfect and works. Would it a mechanical issue or something? Any ideas would help me out so much! thank you!!!
Hi. Please I would like to ask you if the macwhell wrangler 600 have the same think to do because I have the bad Hube.
Fixed my 350w. Exactly as shown.
HEllo, what was the symptoms, that you took it apart?
It worked? How long did it last? What can I use to keep the distance between the magnets right? Have a position?
Superglue will not hold them for long. JB Weld will really be the trick to a permanent solution.
er fixed it !! anyone got an english instruction manual mine is in english but written by chinese useless very limited and didnt do chinese in school thanks to watching this video sorted even though not subject covered thanks
Great video. My ebike front hub just died and it is a different design, but I bet it is a loose magnet. I hope to fix it with some JB Weld.
Jb weld is better Than duct tape.
were you able to fix it?
Thanks Bro ! Big help
What tool to take out the bolts on the motor cover?
Hello any ideas on how to fix the frame socket where the wheel goes into the frame ,( the motor has the 2 parts where the nuts right into the frame and has a flat groove on both sides on my bike the socket on the frame is no longer holding the flat sides of the motor it keeps spinning on one side and the cable on the other side is spinning so it got damaged but still works the problem is the frame socket is not holding the axis of the motor) I'm thinking of putting a piece of metal on one side of the socket and to hold it the ideal way would be soldering but I don't have the welder so epoxy? Then file the hole if the axis don't fit? I guess it happened because I didn't tight the wheel enough and is an old bike
Very helpful. Thanks
Hi i have a Rich bit geared rear motor. And it says it requires a gear oil change. Please can you tell me what oil to youse. Many thanks
How does the problem sound?
Is there a disconnect for the hub motor in the control box?
Hi my ebike brand new and faulty wheel runs s free till either the phase wires touch whilst no power connected when power is connected wheel wont turn like its jammed thank you if you can help
What are the symptoms when goes out?
My brother bought a used Hitway split e-bike. We can push the bike forward but the back motor wheel will no rotate backwards. Any idea what might cause this? The hub has p/n GT4875230300566 on it but I can't find anything about it online. I could hear and feel a slight motor noise when advancing the throttle but the wheel just moves backward about 1/4". Riding the bike with no power turned on is fine, but with power on there is no assist, and there is actually a heavy drag as you peddel faster. Is there a way to test the motor windings etc in the hub?
Do you know how to change axle. Bolt is threaded thanks
And if I did this^ would it prevent from any exchange
My mate when out on my folding evoke came back but now all powers up with lights but no go. Help
I sincerely appreciate your video; nobody has been able to take the job to try to fix my e-bike; nobody in London, can you believe it? I am following your instructions to open the cassette and find what’s wrong inside it,, thank you again!
I'm very happy it helped
My bike will try to go but then the motor cuts out...I pedal a little and the motor tries again for a few seconds then cuts out again...any help would be appreciated thank you !!
I didn't quite understand what was the problem at the first place. How do you diagnose a problem due loose magnets? I have a vibration on my bike from the motor once in a while, is it possible there are also loose magnets?
Do you think a Vanmoof S3 has more or less the same motor? I think it does. Either way, your video is quite educational and informative, thanks a lot.
I have a small electric bike that is brand new that will not turn on unless it is hooked up to the charger. When I have it plugged in it will turn on and it shows a full battery and horn honks but no throttle. When unplugged nothing will turn on. Totally dead. Any advice??
Hi! How to change hand controller in the pedal starring
I have just fixed mine (magnets slipping). I used 2ml of epoxy resin in 3 stages over 30 mins using a syringe and ran the motor to force the epoxy against the back of the magnets. I think epoxy is better than super glue.
Awesome
How long do you have the bike? Mine is brand new and not getting pedal assist after one use!
@@Joe-pg4vk pedal assist is controlled by a sensor on the paddles, check make sure the wires are not loose, or the magnet didn't get knocked out by something..., mine worked for 3000 miles when I sold it to get another one
Vegas RoManiac My buddy changed out the shifters because they got chipped and put new cable in but since then she can not use the pedal assist or the shifter. It’s a new bike!
Its not a swifty by any chance, biought one about a year ago just actually got round to using it today after half a mile it stopped working, makes avstrange noise like something rubbing the wheel.
What if the motor hub doesn't come on at all ? Is this video about a noisy hub ?
Hey brother, how you doing?
I wanted to ask a question.
I have a 52v 1000w rear wheel motor Chinese conversion kit, and recently got hir by a car.
The impact split my tyre, and also the rear wheel power cable slightly.
It worked fine for a few days, but then died on me.
Thw strange thing is, the rear wheel will sometimes begin to spin when I hit the thumb throttle, but then cuts out again.
The pedal assist feature also works intermittently.
The thumb throttle power indicator lights up, so I know the battery and some electrics are OK, but why won't my wheel spin and maintain power?
It's my first ebike, and 9m not particularly good with electronics, so I wanted to ask you guys what the problem may be?
That is strange.. Quite a complex issue. Don't know what to say man, if all wires are OK, and there are no loose connections, maybe something is loose in the hub motor, a sensor
Just wanted to thank you brother, after ruling out every possible failure option of my motor, turns out it's been the magnets this whole time, I took the motor apart completely but there's no chance I'll start epoxying each and every one of them, hell no, just gonna give 'em a nice bath of CA glue and let it rip.
Awesome
good work
wow, thank you so much!
Happy to help
I have an issue with my bike the wire that gos to the motor spin around how do I fix this
did the superglue hold well?
just done the repair, i'll let you know if it fails
i have no lights on the display on my Ancheer battery is fully charged any ideas how to fix this i have checked the controller no wires are disconnected
Good info
What Grease did you use for the Teflon gears?
To me they say at bike workshop that normal bearing grease contains to much acid in it and after some time gears teeth Wil break off.
I used acid grease then ..haha no problem
@@vegasromaniac Thanks 👍🏻I wil do just that.
Teflon? PTFE is probably the most resistant material against acids, there's no acid I can think of that would damage PTFE. Nylon maybe.
Brilliant solution using super glue. It is good you didn't take them out , Taryl Fixes All, channel did a small engine flywheel repair and noted that each magnet is either north or south (who would have known?) and if they are mixed up= no output, and possibly that hub motor is the same deal.
That makes sense
I own a Ancheer bike and love it I Can't find replacement parts for it
I bought it used and know it will need brakes or something??????
The parts are all Chinese z go on eBay, you will find most of the stuff there z just a bit harder to match
I would use 2K Araldite® the 24hr stuff.
I turned my bike on anchor e bike and the assist button also have done this for 10 monrhs now but when push throttle down to move it doesn't move I checked the motor to see if I hear It clicking and yes t b e motor is making noise when I push throttle but no move ent
Just ordered the model up. Am I going to need a full time mechanic?
Yes, because Ancheer is horrible when you go out of warranty
MY 1000w gearless cyclotricity hub is making a lot of noise, the power goes right down also, it could be lose magnets but I am betting the gearing is stripped, it vibrates right through the frame. I cant imagine superglue working for long, it is very brittle?, hope it works for you
Worked till the day I sold it...
Old desine hero cycle hub motor installed not made why
Hey, I'm have trouble putting back on the gears back on. Any ideas?
It's a just a basic bicycle gear mechanism, not sure what could go wrong. If they don't align, maybe you put a washer instead of outside inside ..
So is this the reason my throttle isnt working , like i press on it and its not moving at all... And the wheel is like locked and it barely moves.
I have over 3,500 miles on my 48v 500w Ancheer Hummer with a 52v Battery and have no issues at all.
You can totally just unplug the motor wires from the controller and move the wheel wherever you need to.....
What was the symptom of the hub motor failure? Could you hear a loud scraping sound from the hub? I have the same bike and I have the same loose magnet condition. I am going to rebond them similar to your solution but I am interested in your failure mode.
Scraping, and rattleing noise loss of power
yes scraping and you feel something is slipping, but stops once you're cruising
@@markbuxton2368 Same as mine but fixed it with this method. Check your magnets if its loose also and glue it.
Check the other axel bearings also. The wheel will be done. The amount of grease the factory puts in bearings on the entire bike is very little.
Yeah thays true
4:26 the wheel stops so suddenly it’s like no grease at all.
Hey man, love your videos... You cover all the right stuff.....
However, I think that you have shown this disassembly more than once and each time you have found the nut in the middle of the sprockets to be finger tight. There is a video here on CZcams by Ancheer, demonstrating swapping out the motor internals and in his case, he had to use a wrench to loosen that nut. He also torqued it up when he reassembled it. Just wondering if that could have contributed to your issues (weird noise, loose magnets). I one case you believed that grease made it quieter but maybe it was that your finger-tightening was tighter than before you disassembled?
Furthermore, I prefer the way the Ancheer tech fully disconnected the cable from the controller box.... I'm an electrician and stressed wiring makes me cringe...LOL.
Hope to order my Ancheer next week...Please keep up the good work. You are one of the few CZcams presenters who doesn't bore me with wasted words 🤚
Edit: Gonna strip mine down before I even think of riding it. Just read on a forum where the motor manufacturers recommend Mobil grease 28.
Even toying with the idea of sticking another 250w motor on the front, for those occasions where I care more about pulling power than range. We'll see.
Nope, the nut had no issue with that, magnets were not glue we'd on, the super glue held them in place forever. Still work today
Vegas RoManiac....Hmmm, it doesn't feel right to me. I have lived, slept and breathed servo motion control for 35+ years, from fractional hp to 100+ hp and to me, finger-tight = loose. Lot of stress in that area of this machine and you definitely have not babied it....LOL.
This is also very encouraging for me because I would normally run away from "plastic" gears but they seem to last well.
Anyone interested in longevity/reliability, however might want to refrain from all-electric standing starts as this puts way more stress on the gears than when the bike is already moving or when the rider is assisting. I don't intend to punish mine but it's gonna be hard for this ex-motocrosser...LOL. I had the predecessor to the YZ450F, it was the YZ426F 😎👍
Edit: I understand about the loose magnets but I am speculating about the actual cause of the hub motor issues.
@@AdaptivePhenix I think you underestimated for 35 years with how much you can get away with... This cheap bike has like 3000 miles like that..
So, a bit late.. how did the mobil grease 28 work out for you? Or is lithium grease better for the gears in the hub motor.
Can you give the link of the ancheer video
Does anyone know a way to get a possible exchange?
Was that causing the error 24 code
What was the problem in the first place? I own the 20" folding version and they appear to use the exact same motor. Mine started to "studder" during initial acceleration. I noticed on your 1000 mile review that it was "studdering" also. Just want to know if it's the same problem since it's the same motor.
the motor was spinning under full throttle without forward motion, the magnets were spinning but because not attached to the outside hub the wheel was not moving at full speed !
Hi, I have the same Ancheer Bicycle. Last week I went out for a ride, and after 1 km, the hub motor started a bad weird sound and also the speed decreased to 4-5 km/hr. with full throttle. Do you think is the same problem as yours? I appreciate your response.
will this be a solution if the motor starts and cuts off immediately in a few seconds or doesn't turn over at all?
This is probably a cable or hall sensor issue.
I bought a Ancheer 26” 250w commuting bike and it has been sitting in my garage new for a month with dead motor. I took it to repair shop they said you can’t get parts. The seller Zaplue won’t help and I can’t reach Ancheer they don’t answer. What should I do.?
Cut your losses and get something better. Every single part of those bikes is garbage. If you replace one part, you still have the rest of it to deal with.
Hey, do you know where online I can get a battery like that? That shape/brand I mean?
Never looked for one, I'll try to see if I can find one. I was planning to build my own when it goes out, if you open it up, it's reallyvsinokeniside, just buy the cells and replace them
That type the shell is fragile when shipped with the lithium inside, and the contacts become loose after time.
My bike loses power as soon as it’s going uphill (right when you want it). If you stop and turn the key off and back on the power returns but as soon as you get back in motion it cuts out again. Could this be the magnets need to be reglued?
Did you find out how to fix your bike. I have exactly what you have discribed happening to my bike at the moment . Did you try the trick with the magnets ?
Hey man keep up the good videos. Can anyone point me in the right direction, I've got a mid drive motor on my bike. Everything works, I lift my back wheel up and it spins perfectly, but when I sit on the bike the motor just shudders and doesn't have the strength to drive forward. Any ideas??? Does it sound like it's the clutch?? Thanks
No clutch maybe something wrong with the electronics, these motors have all kind of sensors
With my bike, it makes a slight squeaking/screeching sound at full speed on throttle, can it be the magnets or just the bearings and rollers needing grease?
I had that too, it went away with tightening all the bolts on the bike and spoke but it might also be a a bearing that got tight in th e process of going over evrything
Vegas RoManiac I think it might be the bearing, I’ll have to remove the motor anyways to regrease the plastic gears inside so I’ll take a look at the bearings and maybe clean them and put some bearing oil in them. Thanks for replying!
Hi. I just got a Lectric Xp about a week ago and the back tire is locking up. I loosened my brake calipers and it will move about 2 feet freely and lock up again!
Maybe a bad bearing... Maybe it's too tight, or not assembled corectly
Vegas RoManiac Thank you for the reply! I’m calling them Monday to see what I should do.
Hello I have a question, Is there in this bike pedal support
Yes three levels low mid high
What type of sensor?
i had to get a new motor still bot here yet i got a ancheer ebike but not this one my bike black and white the motor gear eat up in toke care of it buy still love the bike
My ancheer bike just like this one is only 23 days old, the motor is shot on mine, getting a new hub motor soon.
Have fun with that! They dont respond....Ive bought 2 bikes One is good the other needs a rear wheel replacement
can anyone tell me what causes this because i have it too but i only have my bike for 6 months and it happend after getting a new back tire after it flattend
have a brand new one of those worked when pedals off now wont go electric all lights on but no power any hints starting with obvious no electric bicycle experiance HELP please
Niall Mulvany Since your lights are on its not a battery problem. One of the most common problems will be the electrical switch connection on your brake handle. When you squeeze the brake handle it stops the motor because you separate the connection at the brake lever. Inspect your brake lever carefully where the electrical connection is being made and make sure the contacts are touching each other.
What did you experience when the magnets went loose?
Lots of noise from the rear hub
Just curious. What were the bike's symptoms that made you inspect the magnets?
"Vegas RoManiac
1 year ago
Scraping, and rattleing noise loss of power"
@@FloppyMusher does the power cut out or does t it get weaker?
Mine drives ok on level 1 but when I turn on fastest level whitch is 3 in my case the motor making weird noise
mine lost power slowly then cut out completly at about 500 miles.. have to try this!
i hear a meatal scraping noise from mine when i engage the motor
Try flex seal?
What tool do you need to remove the hub screws?
Inbus
Ironically I got an ancheer too, but voilamart rear hub motor , my bike was just working fine yesterday, plenty of miles on it . Not sure how to use a volt meter but seems like the controller is fine idk . I did splice stuff years ago, alot of melted tape, but like I said worked fine for years
They melt sometimes if used hard ...
@@vegasromaniac right, it wasn't to bad really, just really sticky, the wires weren't damaged at all just the tap melting. Except for 1 connector seemed to have some acid residue or something, but anyway definitely plan to open my motor up today to see if maybe I can fix mine same as yours ,but just in case I ordered a new motor/kit last night, inflation increased it by almost 100$ since the first one i bought about 3 years ago .but still not to bad especially for how much use i get out of them. Thanx for your help appreciate it!
Oh yeah!
what was the initial problem? did the motor not work? did it make noises?
It made noise
I have a new bike got one ride on it and now have no power for pedal assist. It shows 4 bars and light and horn work. Got this for my wife for retirement. It was shipped from China and I have problems with contacting them at all. Very Frustrating! Help
Check all connections in the black controller box under the saddle are secure. Check the sensor on the pedal hub is not damaged (or any of the wiring). Especially check the brake levers are not bent or out of position and the sensors on the levers are properly connected. If the controller thinks one of the brakes levers is pulled, the motor will not run.
Does anyone know where i can get an Ancheer rear wheel and hub motor assembly?
Ebay, you can get a universal one
What kind of grease did you put on the gears inside the motor?
Muffinman white lithium grease for the nylon gears.
Great video! Very well explained and demonstrated. After watching your video I would not be afraid to try doing this job myself. How did the super glue fix work for the long hall?
Still holding today, a year later
*haul
what was the initial fault?
Yea I want to know
@@guze6799 I believe it was the same as mine. At higher throttle the gears/clutch appear to slip so the motor doesn't drive wheel. It is at high torque that the magnets slip. The actual gears are fine
Torque multiplication, which is actually pretty cool as long as it locks up at the highest RPM, but it didn’t, so off it came.
Thank you!!!
Can you use threadlocker instead of superglue?
Whatever glue you have for metal
Did it make the rattling noise go away completely? Especially during hard acceleration.
Should of showed the symptoms of this isue while on the bicycle before the repair ,well mine is making noise when I throttle and cuts out ,bit when I'm not on the bicycle ,on the stand ,it works fine ,I wonder is mine issue same,thanks
Was making a wratling noise
@@vegasromaniac the noise is not like something lose but like as if something with currant ,loud and nasty sound
When I throttle on speed one it's no problem but when I turn on speed 2 or 3 and start to move throttle than it cuts out following the noise and it sounds like it's comming from both controller and motor like some cert of vibration ,also when this happens the controller doesn't shut of it stays on all I need to do to stop noise is to let go of throttle ,also sometimes if I throttle on speed 3 and throttle slowly than after 15 km/h I can full throttle and noise is gone bit only for short time like a minute ,sorry for my spelling
I am needing a cover for the hub motor for my bike, does anyone know how to get parts for this bike?
I would also like to know a parts source. I did see a phone number listed on amazon on the ancheer ebike sales ad but have not tried to call it yet. Let me know if you do find a source. Not needing parts now but like anything I will in the future.
do you know if we can buy a new battery to replace the previous? if we can??