Mike Rowe | The Ben Shapiro Show Sunday Special Ep. 12
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2018
- Mike Rowe joins me to discuss his journey from tradesman to TV celebrity, the importance of a strong work ethic, and why happiness is not a worthy goal.
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Mike Rowe is the Head Professor at Dad University.
Brilliant
Right? The whole reason I started listening to and watching the man. A great moral compass he has
He's the Dean. Haha
Mike Rowe for president 2024 for the working persons party
@@tavferry3301 I was going to post this.
Mike Rowe the working man's philosopher.
I admire Mike Rowe, my husband was a master welder made a wonderful living,read 3 books a week and was beautiful.
"No one is starting from the same starting line, it's okay... But it's 100% up to us where we finish."
Perfect.
Agreed brother... America was never a "hey heres your freedom and a decent living", country, it was founded on people who physically chopped down trees and worked to build houses and farm for food. Its the land of opportunity, always was, always will be. You just gotta get out there and DO THAT SHIT YOURSELF.. WORK IS CALLED WORK FOR A REASON... welfare shouldnt even exist. If you cant find a single way to support yourself, then get up on outta here and go somewhere else. Plain and simple.... ANYONE, no matter WHERE U COME FROM, can make it. Otherwise your just another mindless lazyass motherfucker. I mean cmon now.... so yeah dood, ya hit the nail on the head
Well said 💪👌
Ben - in all seriousness, make Mike Rowe your VP when you run in 2024 (yes, we know its happening). He may not have any background or formal education in politics or law but he understands the hard working citizens of this country and what makes them tick. The two of you together compliment each other in such a way that most of middle america would have a hard time not to vote for you.
Otiss
DOOOOO IIIIIIIIIIIT!
Well, I would like Ben to mea culpa on Trump. Trump has been excellent in so many ways policy wise, and I voted for McMullin because I followed Ben’s advice about abstaining. I now feel that was an error, and I am glad most did not follow Ben’s advice.
I think pence would garner more support
Ben does a "mea culpa" on Trump over and over -every time he feels he has made a mistake. Jeez, don't people even listen? bugs me how everyone is made out to be pro or anti Trump, isn't it better to acknowledge someone who actually has the integrity to base their opinion of Trump on what he says and does day to day?
not a chance Stephen, Rowe has way more likability and popular appeal.
downeybill
No. You should base your opinion on the general direction the country is headed in. We are going in the right direction, so it is good to cut Trump some slack and let him do what he needs to.
If we would have all followed ben’s advice and abstained on Election Day, we would not have gotten all of the wonderful things that we now have thanks to the Trump administration.
Shapiro should run for President in 2024 with Mike Rowe as his VP.
#ShapiRowe2024
Best shipname ever
And you’ll be in charge of campaign marketing #genius
I read it as "Shapee, Row"
Crowder VP
Patrick Dyer hell I would vote for them
Mr mike is one of the reasons I'm the man I am today. I was glued to his show growing up. You're one of the reasons I work as hard as I do, and do the jobs that I do. You taught me that no job was beneath me and every job was a blessing. Thank you mr mike.
Same
I'm 18 and in the trades
@@jamesgarrison6430 Riveting
Yet he went to college and never did these dirty jobs.
@@jd0604 He admired his grandfather's talent and skill in the trades. Even though didn't work in the trades, he promotes and celebrates the American ideal and work ethic of people like his grandfather. People who made this country what it is today. There is nothing wrong in that.
i didnt graduate 8th grade . dropped out of high school . now at 34 years old i make over 100k a year in the trades. god bless America. the land of opportunity if you get off your butt and work
The real American Dream! God bless.
Good if you can work, try this with disabled kids to care for 24/7, I'm no socialist but I do think that the capitalist system is a bit unfair towards those who don't have the ability,
For example I'm a 50yr old fully qualified carpenter and joiner, I have a 12 Yr old daughter who is non verbal Autistic with profound learning disabilities, thers my career fucked, no earning potential for presumably the rest of my life,
The job I do now caring for her is infinitely more difficult work, it's 24/7/365, with zero financial compensation,
Get off your ass and work doesn't make welfare easier to accept as my share of God's good earth,
Western society still has room to grow, people can't work and thrive if they spend all their time and effort struggling to survive.
Just because the system is good doesn't have to mean it can't be made better,
Eradicate hunger and homelessness and I'll believe that the system works.
@@Kipperbob What system works better? Is the queen feeding EVERYONE? I doubt it. The only way these people wouldn't starve is if we taught them how to track, trap, fish, and hunt. Even then, if you're homeless, you probably don't have the best work ethic. That's why you're homeless.
@@thereaper2815 I think that the welfare state is a deterrent to work on the basis that in order to qualify for it you must remain unemployed, plus the administration costs are astronomical, it would be cheaper to just give everyone the means to pay for basic food and shelter regardless of how rich or poor they are, since all democratic states are essentially public services provision companies and the citizens elect the board of management or governance body, it's not a huge step to consider those who are entitled to vote shareholders, so call it a dividend from their shareholding in the state, the same idea as Basic Income but not money for nothing, dividend on your one non transferable share,
Teach your fellow craftsmens to market themselves
I've always liked Mike Rowe but never realized what a thoughtful, well-spoken, gem of a man he actually is. Just an incredible interview! Thank you, Ben.
Well said. I was surprised as well.
Great writer too.
I saw a brief interview some time in the past and Mike Rowe stated that when he filmed an episode of Dirty Jobs they were recorded with no predetermined dialogue and improvised as they taped the segment.
He never disappoints. I was just thinking I would love to sit and just talk to Mike Rowe. I don't think I would ever get tired of it. I'm willing to try anyway. More people should listen to what he has to say.
@@averywhitecotton5393 absolutely, did you read that piece on Scientology he wrote ?it’s mind blowingly brilliant writing.
I'll never complain about the adverts now that Mike has praised them! I'll still fast forward..but I won't complain!
Habu12 60 second skips 😂
SAME. Scolded & repentant. 😂🤣😂 Make that bank, Ben!
I love Ben's ad reads, as well as Bill Burr's podcast.
EPLURiBusUNUM um.... You watching the ad reads doesn't benefit Ben or the Daily Wire at all, unless you buy what he's selling. But, hey, watch on.
From what I understand it actually does benefit him if you watch it and if you don't thats money he won't get. CZcams analytics do show where a percentage of people skip and its easy to tell that it was the ad that they skipped. Now because its not a youtube ad, but instead an independent paid promotion, I don't know wether it does have an effect. But he does his ads great. They are very short. I've got fat thumbs and I watch on my phone. Its difficult and more time consuming for me to try to skip them.
Mike has always been one of the very few public figures that I respect as a person, some have good ideas etc but are just not good people. Mike just is all around a person that matters, world is a better place because of him. Thats beyond rare
Man I flipping love Mike’s voice. It’s amazing to get both halves of the conversation: Ben’s speedy higher tone, and Mike’s slow, molasses tone.
I'm a young father from the UK and mike is an exemplary role model for sooo many young people, we need more of him and more people just like him.
Andrew Eccles if you like and agree with mike. Then I think you'll be a decent father.
Cheers to that. Good luck.
+ Andrew Eccles I'm an old....er father from UK (50) with a 4 yr old son. 2 years "A" levels then 4 years in University post "O" and "A" levels ( O levels... that old!) Council house kid done well? No. I spent allo my student holidays grummadging around under floor boards running in pipes, up on roofs dropping flu liners, testing gas pipes (supervised btw) rodding blocked poo pipes etc. Thankfully, I qualified for free tuition and a maintenance grant (pre student loans)
Each to their own, but I love my work and probably earn as much as someone with a BA liberal arts degree. Somewhat placates my guilt at robbing the UK taxpayer of paying for my "wasted time" in further education. I'd like to think that my boy will be the next Richard Dawkins or Stephen Hawking, but, realistically, it is unlikely that my work will be robotised and besides, I have a free labourer to send up chimneys.
Best wishes, Andrew.
Hear-hear. . Make time for your kids because they will always remember that. The best gift you can give to anyone. 🇺🇸🇬🇧
notonetowine ubibabies thanks. I try.
Also; one of my friends actually went through schooling thanks to Mike Rowe. So, thanks for paying for my buddy's welding education, Mr. Rowe.
That's awesome, man. I hope his career is long and prosperous.
I love listening to intelligent conversations. Thank you, Ben Shapiro and Mike Rowe for being reasonable, thoughtful, well-spoken, and entertaining.
Mike Rowe is a very interesting man.
Well rounded, soft spoken, & calls it the way he sees it without alienating anyone.
Shame he doesn't run for public office...if someone has it together is that guy.
💯🇺🇸
Mike is very much like Ben Carson. brilliant, but soft spoken. DAVE
Mike like me knows, like me we serve humanity not ME, DAVE
If you take the voices of Rowe and Shapiro and average them out you get the voice of a regular human.
Jeff Bruno maybe not the best comment here, but definitely the truest. Well done Sir.
Seeing the names “Rowe & Shapiro” together in print makes me think of a law firm I wouldn’t wanna mess with!
🤣🤣🤣
Mike's voice is the modern version of Sam Elliott I think
MIKE ROWE!
Thanks Ben! I love you man! That's an awesome guest!!
Hydrated RDA excellent!!!
Tennessee's new governor, Bill Lee, is taking state government surplus and putting it into vocational education. I think it's brilliant!
Mike is so much of a philosopher it's funny because of how he uses it. Mike's grandfather would be very proud of what he has become.
The American everyman's philosopher.
I would love to see Mike Rowe and Jordan Peterson in a long forum discussion.
yeahguy1986 absolutely. And grounded in reality and how the world really works.
I didn't know I needed this but now I do
PrimusxPilus hahaha perfectly put man! I’ve never thought of the two conversing together but now that Tracey put that image in my head it’s such a good idea!
Would love to watch this convo! ☝
I thought the same thing when listening to this.
This was absolutely amazing. I love the fact that Mike pointed out one of the most damaging of all false dichotomies, that a welder can't be a philosopher, or a philosopher can't be a welder. We need well rounded individuals, and the arrogance of academia that assumes just because an individual works with their hands, said individual is somehow lacking in intellect is not only insulting, it is factually incorrect. It is conversations like this one that have the potential to actually do some good in a world that is in real need of some good. Ben and Mike, thank you.
I'm a tradesman. I have an IQ of 147. My life is good and I'm grateful for it.
The average Greek was expected to know how to be a warrior and a farmer and a philosopher. These were their three primary schools. How far we've fallen.
Doubting Didymus
People that sweat for a living are normally the most interesting.
This supposed, and asserted (not proven), 'arrogance' in academe is no less prevalent amongst those who view those who work with their minds as 'not having a real job', is it not? And yet these complaints about 'arrogance' always seem to only come from one side. Perhaps there's a lot more room for attitude adjustments than you might think.
Matthew Cordery What I see in the trades is that not only are people using their hands, they often are also using their minds to get things to work for them while not screwing up something for someone else. Not always, but a good tradesperson does. Now, that being said, I currently work for a HVAC contractor but also have a BSME. Often I come across equipment from a manufacturer (engineer designed) and think, "how in the hell are you supposed to work on this?!" Perhaps that it is where some of the distaste for "higher" education comes from. Ever try to work on your own vehicle?
Ben, thank you for having Mike Rowe on your show. He's a great guy that's really sharp and he's giving back. More than most will ever do!
Time for another interview with Mike.
I could listen to Mike Rowe talk about anything. He could be talking about tofu for 2 hours and it wouldn’t matter. The fact that he’s extremely well articulated and intelligent is an added bonus lol
I love Mike Rowe.....and his attitude is so perfect. My father is an example of what he describes: Dad grew up on a farm, farming. Went off to college, pre-law, studying English and Philosophy at a Jesuit University. By the end of Junior year, he had 1. joined the Navy and was in the Korean Conflict, 2. Met my mom. After four years of military and equal time in a long distance relationship, he came home. He farmed. He married mom. He quoted the philosophers, corrected our grammar, and cut tails and testicles from hogs. In other words, it is not an either or proposition. He always found willing conversationalists; his farm work was often hard, but satisfying and often left his mind free to ponder. He never stopped reading, staying up to date, and was an amazing conservation farmer (because he was a reader), which made his fellow farmers laugh. He challenged us with questions and ideas, and all of us became successful in what we did: the bottom line - work hard. Don't retire early. Be physically and mentally active ALL your life. Love you Ben, Love Mike Rowe. And his mom's letters just kill me! Hilarious.
I think Mike Rowe would be a great president. I'm sure he would disagree. But THAT is why he'd be great.
Same as Washington, he didn't want to be president either.
I'd like to see a president elected against his will
Politics...the dirtiest job ever!
Rowe for President!
Rowe-Shapiro 2024
such a pleasure to hear a conversation where no one is interrupting another. Love this and these two men!
my 9yo son has a very high IQ but I am encouraging him to do a trade i.e. Plumbing, Electrical etc. and then to study Mechanical Engineering. I encourage him to be real and humble. Mike Rowe is a legend.
We raised 4 boys. We were not college grads. Our advise was to get a good enough education that you can dig the ditch or own the ditch digging company.
We live in a land of opportunity, but there are also pitfalls. Learning to blame others for your lack of trying is one of the worst. Realizing that handouts are not always the best way runs a close second.
@@papahajek5383 nothing wrong with hard work. That is what built the world after WWII. But today it is frowned upon. Sad really. If the world worked harder, there might not be time for so much fakeness and drama.
"Outrage is for sale" and with that Mike Rowe delivers the official motto for the beginning of the 21st century.
I turned to.my eife and said "We are living the "Age of Outrage."
I've once heard it described as "recreational outrage"
The thing that truly breaks my heart is that I can only give this 1 Thumbs up.
Wow what an awesome interview. Thank you Ben Shapiro and Mike Rowe.
Ben is obviously a genius, but he appears to be confiding and learning from Mike.
The truly intelligent never stop learning.
A genius can learn from everyone a fool can learn from no one
You sir have that wrong. Yes, Mike is a different caliber of thought. But make no mistake, Ben didnt get to where he is by just repeating what he hears. Lord knows we have enough of that going around in our media. He is a man of facts, but he does predict whats next. And does an amazing job at it. Have you not seen the hundreds of videos of him putting people in their place? Or listened to any of his podcasts? Dude is on a way different level of transparency. Dont get me wrong, Mike is an amazing person. But credit is due to Ben fpr his overwhelming service and willingness to step out and speak the truth. No matter what it will do to his ratings. Both are amazing people though.
Every single person you meet in life know something you do not.
Only the smart people continue to keep learning throughout life
That is what makes genius.
“Happiness is a terrific Symptom.
It’s a terrible Goal.” -M Rowe
YUP... that's ANOTHER one that should be up on my wall-! (SO True!)
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@@AutomationDnD Wise people are rarely happy
I clicked as soon as I saw this. I felt bad seeing Mike Rowe staring back at me.
He probably thinks I'm jobless for being so available for this. I'm sorry Mr. Rowe. :'(
Mark Vincent Cocjin PROCRASTINATION IS THE THEIF OF TIME! Stop procrastinating! XD
I find I’m happiest when procrastinating
It’s Sunday, don’t be hard on yourself.
Me too! 😲😥
I'm an expat in a country where their Sunday is like your Monday.
I was taught by my Father: who is the last person to have a job when a corporation goes bankrupt? The Janitor. Respect those who make civilization civilized. Skilled labor matters.
janitor is a skill work?
Alexander Gerolimatos of course
Alexander Gerolimatos Custodial arts
Who is the last person to have a job when there is a global pandemic? Your father's words remain true. When it came down to it, during this Pandemic, we learned who is essential and who is not. Wild.
@@alexandergerolimatos4682 Yes, the good ones are skilled. The lousy ones who don't care to learn the most they can about the profession are "cleaners."
This was a well spent hour.
Thank you Ben and Mike.
Greetings from Israel
420yendal You must be pretty dumb in general.
Well well well
How did the comments on this comment become so hateful?
@@timothyhenderson1914 Because Israel was mentioned.
I love everything Mike Rowe stands for.
He is a great example of hard work, responsibility, and integrity.
...all combined with a vigorous sense of humor.
I went to a local tech school to learn how to weld. Took only 2 years and $9.5k, afew years later I'm now making enough money that I bought a home, got a lifted truck, plenty of toys like rifles for hunting, a dog, fourwheeler, etc. And most recently to afford an engagement ring for my girlfriend. Life isn't perfect, there will always be challenges, but I feel I'm doing a good job and am alot better off than some of my peers who are in loads of debt from a degree for a job that doesn't exist. And heres the kicker, I took the most basic welding course I could. I got friends and relatives in the same field who did some in depth schooling for it and are making boat loads more than me. Dont ever give up on the trades ppl!
Less people want to work in professional trades nowadays... which I'm fine with, more money for me, less for the snowflakes
Shes gonna get half...and she didn't have to break a sweat...on a work site that is.
any suggestions for someone that is 35 and no experience with trades? i regret college and always feel like I'm starting over >< would trade school still accept older students?
@@Minyadagniriel yes
go for a trade only go to college if the career requires it like a doctor, lawyer, teacher, etc.
This was awesome. Mike, you are an incredible human being. Ben, thank you for this.
Mike Rowe is so well spoken and is more insightful than Ben's other guests. A deep thinker, love it!
I love this man, he and all the hard workers on Dirty Jobs are amazing.
Me too!!!
Yup. Mike Rowe is the best ever.
Me too! I also learned that he minored in lesbian dance theory.
Amanda J Tycer Don't you mean you love all the men that actually work those dirty necessary jobs that mike rowe showed us. Sure he is a great guy, but that's a tv show. Those people are still doing those same jobs and should be thanked all the same.
Andrew Ament
I have the most respect for those hard working people. I think they are amazing.
51:36: "Happiness is a terrific symptom, it's a terrible goal."
This struck me as so profound as well! Such a shift in perspective, and one I know I need to take a little more to heart.
so true. some of my best days were when I was digging ditches as a laborer in college, taking crap from the senior guys, and chewed out my by foreman. Taught me a lot about resilience, being proud of a hard day's work, and to appreciate how sweet a climate controlled office job can be when you've earned it.
The best pearl of wisdom in this podcast!
This is my fav part too
Happiness is the effective of possessing what we believe to be the Good.
"happiness is a terrific symptom... it's a terrible goal."
fnckin' gold!
This was such a awesome interview. Has to be top 5 of all time. Mike's ability to define his opinions & beliefs in such a educated, yet layman's way. Just awesome!!!. No flak Ben for your endorsements. At the end of the day, bill's have to be payed. So, you can produce great interviews like this one. This video needs some ppc ads or whatever is needed. To direct more of us to it.
Great job Ben & Mike
an*
I could listen to Mike read a phone book.
"...TheVast, Bearing Sea..."
In a heartbeat!
so could I
He needs to do audio books!
He needs to sign a deal with Garmin.
Mike Rowe's voice makes me melt a little. 😘
ElyssaAnderson your photo makes me melt a little..😊
Rowe is one of the greats out there, he a truly seems genuine, and always has... plus his voice is very disarming while having authority
Mike is a very awesome guy the world needs more people like him
Salt of the earth
Not really if only you knew
@@MrROTD repent
Mike Rowe has now been on Shapiro, Maher, and Opie and Anthony. He is inimitable and incomparable.
Paul Froelich also Tim Ferris much more details on his rise To stardom
Paul Froelich I'd like to see him on Rogan.
DevinAK49 Good number of folks have said that. Agree 100 percent.
Paul Froelich Rogan always has those conversations that are a great mix of fun and insightful. Even when Joe doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, it's always interesting.
Ben, keep doing what you're doing. This is what this generation needs.
Wait, Dirty Jobs was a show Mike Rowe made for his Grandpa? I loved that show already just for giving credit to normal people and their skills, but damn... Please run for president, Mike. Please.
Rowe 2024
He's too honest to be a politician.
@@ALCRAN2010 "Authentic"
actually i can see him beeing a great candidate for the reps. he is not as agressive or at times percieved toxic as most others like lets be honest ben shapiro.
smae time he stands exactly for the values. he is insane charismatic with an awsome voice.
he is thinking, educated articulate but same time not as shallow as other people in hollywood that may bring similar traits.
imagine him in a 1:1 discussion for presendecy, staying calm bringing his point across in a direct simple yet not offensive way.
no seriously if the reps would consider him he could be a real contender
woswas denni agree! Even Ben looks just charmed by him. I could listen to the man talk all day.
Finally, I have heard some common sense by someone. Mike Rowe is like a brother from a whole other family! I am so glad I am not the only who thinks this way-so refreshing.
Mr Rowe isn't wrong . I took ind. arts in high school. then started in the summer working construction. then as a laborer at a housing development. then to factories then a welder the a millwright . It all started in the lowest position then seeing someone i saw as better than me. I would learn from that person .,,then the next and the next till now i can set 300000lbs pieces of eqipment within .002 of an inch and make 125k in 8 months and have the rest of the year off isn't bad at all. Plus i love my job. I'm happy when i wake up at 5 am work a 12 hr shift 7 day for 6-8 weeks at a time and still love what i do is something special. and it all started in Mr Mertz's wood shop
Obviously Mr Mertz didn't fare nearly as well with his own talent and ambition.
Tom, God bless you. I am very happy things have worked out well for you.
That's the thing though, Mr. Mertz didn't possess the talent and ambition of the op.
Those that can, do. Those that can't teach.
Agreed. I grew up with a very artistic mother and a handy man master mechanic as a father. So I learned to take everything apart and fix it without instruction. I enjoy working on cars and antique restoration but I have a music degree. I'm very artistic and actually enjoy the arts more but I'm talented in both areas of work.
same as you man.served a four year fabrication apprenticeship, has enabled me to work and travel the world.but any time i seen a nice weld i have to stop and admire it :)
Mike Rowe is up there with some of the most lovable people in media that actually helped the world be a better place such as the late Steve Irwin. I salute you Mike and the world misses you Steve.
salute!
Steve Irwin was wrong. He died becuase of that fact.
Outstanding show. Thank you for having him on. Your show is always great, Ben, but having Mike Rowe on makes the show otherworldly! Please have him on again and continue the conversation.
Best simple advice I ever found to lead a contented, thankful life: As passion wanes in whatever the venture, replace your own statements of "I've got to" , with "I get to". It reprograms your mind in an incredibly positive thankful way.
"Happiness is a terrific symptom, but a terrible goal" Speaking as a 67yr old retired man, thats so true!
I remember my times in shop class, the greatest times; built an entertainment center to hold my 1980s stereo and huge speakers at the time. That class, alone, put in me a love of wood working. When I retire that is what I plan to go back to! Removing shop from schools is one of the greatest blunders IMHO.
"They didn't start on this snipe hunt of 'What will make me happy'." -- Mike Rowe, 2018. Thanks for saying that, Mike. I worked for 16 years, unhappy, low pay, not bothering to fully master my craft and pursue certifications. The I changed to a new career, started adding new updated certs every couple of years, got pretty darn good, made pretty darn good pay, and my job satisfaction continues to grow as my pursuit of higher skills continues. Curiosity, Mike, as you say; it keeps me learning, growing and enjoying my career. You are my hero, sir, for getting out this important concept.
Ben, your comments regarding how more angry a person is, how more it appears that they are fulfilled. So true................. Empty souls + empty hearts...
I love Mike Rowe and have so much respect for him. I'm soooo happy to see you interviewing him. I wish the interview was longer.
I think Mike Rowe would be a great president, because he has enough sense to not want to be president.
A story goes that King George III asked American artist Benjamin West, what Washington intended to do, given the vast power given to the executive. West replied something to the effect of "he intends to resign and retire to his plantation."
The King then said: "If he does that, he will be the greatest man in the world."
That was Washington, that was Cincinnatus. That is the quality of a great leader: who only reluctantly assumes power, and happily gives it up when the task is done.
Mike Rowe is that kind of man. Practical, humble, intelligent, consistent, honest, and with a tremendous appreciation for the worker.
I really hope that our culture finds some way to inculcate Cincinattus back into the common culture. His example, was enough to convince some of the most ambitious and power-hungry people in history, to eschew power and look for a higher ideal. To emulate the praise and glory of Cincinattus, instead of take and hold onto power.
Cincinattus' memory, and the corresponding ideal he embodies, made it literally taboo within Roman society to take and keep power. Even when Julius Caesar was made dictator for life, he still took great pains to try to be able to say he was still following Cincinattus' example by not taking all the power. Same with his successor, Augustus, who upon winning the Roman Civil war and becoming the first Emperor, refused to use the title of Imperium, so as not to violate the precepts that Cincinattus held within that culture.
It continues to shape the way people think about and wield power, even unto today. As you note, Washington took the example to heart, and willingly gave up power, and the King declared him to be the Greatest Man in the World. The tradition of giving up power after 2 terms was continued until FDR, then cemented into our system via a Constitutional Amendment, to make sure it was abided by so long as the Republic remained.
We all seem to inherently understand that the grace and virtue that comes with not lusting for power, and wielding power responsibly, and in service to their community. Everyone gets it, but few seem to have the ethical where-with-all to live it. We need examples which embody that trait and universal aspect of human understanding, because it gives people a litmus test, to consider, and aim for. We seem to primary learn from mimicry, and we need good people like Cincinattus, Washington, and as you note Rowe, to give us the model which we can mimic.
Mike would be a phenomenal follow up to hone what Trump has started to really make America shine again, and Mike has such a wonderful capacity to respond to attacks with grace and a 100 ton hammer.
Donald Trump is that kind of man....
kev3d A friend of mine has a philosophy that anybody who actually WANTS the job of POTUS can’t have it.
@Fake News MY VIEW ALSO! Because Trump never sought out, and lusted for the power of the president before - like Hillary did! She's so disappointed now, the feminist bee-yawtch!
Wow two of my favorite people in the same room making all the sense you need to listen to concerning the state of our country at this time, fandamtasic.
I've always had the greatest respect for Mike rowe. Being able to show the real side of blue collar jobs while showing for most of the jobs and be learned. Alot of the people he talked to at these jobs have worked at that job for a long peroid, sometimes decades. It showed happy people doing things they loved to do while making a living for their families and loving life. There is power in that show.
I also miss dirty jobs. I've actually been watching dirty jobs on CZcams lately.
As a successful blue collar guy, I love Mike Rowe.
A very informative discussion between two people who care about the world they live in
Possibly one of the better erudite conversation in laymen's terms!
He has the most intriguing voice, and I could listen to him all day long. Oh and Mike Rowe's voice is pretty great too.
Mike Rowe is a genius in sewer cleaner clothing. What a beautiful mind! We're fortunate to have lived during his time.
44 min. In and probably the best one of these Sunday sit downs yet.
"Happiness is a terrific symptom but a terrible goal." Ding-ding-ding... that's the ring of Truth, right there. Loved it.
Sounds like a justification for making workplaces as miserable as possible while silencing dissent to me.
@@matthewharris8819 Mike meant that while happiness is a good thing, you still have to pay the bills. Those that have jobs that fill both are very lucky, but uncommon. One cannot simply rely on whether you are happy or not to survive in this world.
@@matthewharris8819 Did you listen to everything else said? He was delineating how it is that intelligent, capable people choose what our society deems "menial work" and make it into fulfilling, productive work. If they made choices based only on what they thought would produce immediate happiness then they would follow the crowd into something easy or prestigious. Instead they pursued something less impressive, found meaning and worth in doing it well and that meaning and worth often results in...happiness. Satisfaction with being useful. Pride in providing for their family. The positive regard from those served well by their business.
My husband and I own our own kind of Dirty Jobs type of business and I can attest to the truth of what I am saying. We could see this work as misery, I suppose, or we could focus on the value in hard work, the benefit we get from helping ithers and the security provided to our family financially. Happiness wasn't our goal, but it certainly is a symptom we get to experience. I go up to every customer's door with a smile on my face because I am happy and grateful for this meaningful work.
Yes, and the thing with happiness is that we ALWAYS want a little bit more!
Life is about suffering , we are constantly suffering, happines is euforia, last for a few moments, dont a place you always want to be, strive to diminish suffering in your life , thats the goal
The work usually isn't what makes me people unhappy, it's the assholes you work with. Put your foot down or leave the place if you're unhappy working there.
Damn
That hour just flew by
Loved your talk with Dr Phil.
Mike Rowe is another person that I honestly never thought too much about. This is the first time I’ve ever just sat down and listened to his views on things. It’s incredible
Another person that I can look into and learn from.
This interview is absolute, solid gold. Thank you so much for interviewing Mike Rowe. I will be listening to this multiple times and sharing it with my friends. This is going on my must-see / listen list.
He seems like a humble genuine guy. A masculine man
Love this guy. This is the reality TV star America deserves as president.
I work currently in the oil industry. I started as a floorhand on a rig. Moving up through the rungs of a blue collar job over 5 years taught me more than any I could ever repay. And I was paid well for it. Now, knowing the industry from the ground up, I develop AI software for the same industry.
Way leads to way.
Thank you Mike Rowe.
My father was a vocational instructor/guidance counselor. He truly believed a college education was not the pathway for everyone and the skills of vocational training is necessary for our society. Thank you for this discussion.
I always see the comments complaining about Ben's commercials that he talks about, but people don't realize how good we have it today. Remember when you watched TV back in the day, and an hour long program had 20 minutes of commercials you couldn't skip?
I don't think that's particularly true or honest, I'm 31 and a "millenial" but I remember TV from the 90s when you couldn't skip commercials. I think Mike Rowe's right people are to some extent lazy & greedy by nature.
Once again: The problem are not the commercials. It is just retarded that he is recording them during the conversation instead of recording them separately. There is no reason for that.
I think he does it because it saves him time. I would just pre-record like radio lol
Mike and Ben are American national treasures
Mike Rowe is probably one of the most intelligent personalities in our society. I think truly understands the human condition and the ability to muscle through, to find a way.
So loved these two together. Watched it twice. Thank you.
At 46 min...As my Dad said, "you have to have a reason to get out of bed in the morning, or one day you just won't".
This was a very interesting episode. As a professor in one of our universities today, I must sadly agree with much of what was said about the state of higher education.
just a pendulum doin human behavior physics left right?
Are you adding to the problem though? Are you nurturing and training new snowflakes like most professors appear to be?
I love Mike Rowe watching him on dirty jobs as a kid now I watch him as a adult seeing him in a different lite as a intellectual. And loving him on Ben Shapiro's show.
My dad was born in 1908. Left school to work on the family farm round the 5th grade. By the time he passed he was a welder and mechanic. He learned it somewhere
Love Mike Rowe he’s so genuine
Ben, I love to hear from Jordan, Bret, Eric and the rest of the IDW folks but this show was hands down the most fulfilling so far. Mike's wisdom was inspiring. Thanks.
I would like to see Mike Rowe in a discussion with the members of the IDW. He is incredibly rational in his thinking and it would quite interesting to listen to.
Jordan so me?
Absolutely the best interview I've seen.
Gotta love Mike Rowe. Just an exceptional individual.
*President Ben Shapiro:* My fellow Americans, for my first act as President, I will be reintroducing the gold standard, but first, a message from our friends over at Birch Gold.
my ass just fell off
mariokarter13 That would be both economically sound and also completely hilarious.
Isn’t the economy larger than the amount of gold on Earth?
Seth Bishop
If we get absolute technical, the economy is made up and so are the values.
It’s just easier to have a set standard of currency with a made up value than trying to figure out how many potatoes equal a chicken...
Seth Bishop what in the world does that mean? GDP is measured in dollars, the amount of gold can be measured volume (cubic meters, cubic yards, etc) or mass (kilograms) or weight (pounds). The two have nothing to do with each other unless one creates a market where a particular amount of gold can be traded for the ownership of a particular good or service.
Hearing Mike Rowe's voice increases my testosterone levels.
Satch Boogie - Perhaps Mike can do the live reads.
Wow never thought I’d see two of the coolest and most fun to watch guys, talk it out! Very awesome.
Its always a pleasure hearing Mike Rowe’s point of view
I listen to your show every day, Ben. Mike Rowe is an excellent guest!
Please consider interviewing world-renowned Christian apologist, Ravi Zacharias. He's an intelligent and gracious man. You would thoroughly enjoy talking with him. 👍
This was the best Sunday Special yet. Especially for us non-Harvard graduate (or any college) 25 year olds who are still working their way up in the world.
Two very intelligent men having a grown up conversation that sadly is a rarity in this world today.
My two favorite people! So refreshing, I honestly love what you do Mike Rowe, and Ben, you truly need to get ready to be our president in the near future. 👍🏻🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸
That deep voice... No I'm totally straight, promise...
Glad I'm not the only one 🙃
SCD Observer Now that's a " presidential" type voice!
SCD Observer hahaha!
Why do the most innocuous things, like admiring a man's voice, have to be associated with homosexuality?
You got Rowe'd.
Norm MacDonald would be a legendary interview...
i love norm
God yes that would be a great Sunday special
Michael Shipman Nah, Dennis Rodman.
I'm not Norm
J B couldn't agree less
Damn.. I wish this interview was longer!!.. I love the way that he thinks for himself ..he's not left or right but he is left and right.. #RoweandShapiro2020
These guys keep me motivated and focused on what’s really important in and for our great nation!
Work hard, respect others, and work to stay away from any gov. (tax payer) assistance. Don’t feel that sense of entitlement. Earn your place, don’t just have it given to you!